Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 22 Apr 2002 to 23 Apr 2002 (#2002-111) From: Automatic digest processor Date: 24/04/2002, 17:00 To: Recipients of MYSTARA-L digests Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 4 messages totalling 221 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Psionics in George's Campaign 2. Name clarification 3. Light vs. Dark 4. Endless Armies ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 10:18:08 +0200 From: Giampaolo Agosta Subject: Re: Psionics in George's Campaign David Knott wrote: > > If you go with the "psionics are different" approach, psions certainly > would be a threat. However, if you use the standard approach that > in the Psionics Handbook (3e) that treats magic and psionics as > basically very similar in nature, then a psion or psychic warrior would > be no more threatening than a sorcerer, witch, or bard. It would depend also on the perceived power. A group of low-level psicometabolists would be more than welcome (non-clerical healing powers!), a sect of high-level telepaths would not (assuming they were discovered, of course). -- Giampaolo Agosta agathokles@libero.it agosta@elet.polimi.it http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 10:06:20 -0700 From: macnerd Subject: Re: Name clarification OK, You newbie!!!! LOL. I seem to remember Red Wolf long long ago. I used to be Darth Darknerd... > -----Original Message----- > From: Mystara RPG Discussion [mailto:MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM]On > Behalf Of Gilles Leblanc > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 2:10 PM > To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > Subject: [MYSTARA] Name clarification > > > I just realised that I have gone through 4 names ( Roger > Plante, Bob Dylan, > Bleakcabal, Gille Leblanc ) on the list this year :) With the > fact that most > didnt last very long except this one and that when I used to > be a lurker a > few years ago I went by the name Red Wolf, I can see why some > poeple seem to > treat me as a newbie. > > So if anybody remembers any of those poeple I am all of them > :) I have been > using Gilles Leblanc ( my real name ) for the longest time tough. But > considering most names didnt last long most probably didnt > remember them but > just in case, I wanted to clear this up. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 18:47:43 -0700 From: Chris Furneaux Subject: Re: Light vs. Dark IMHO you should be allowed to do whatever you want IYC. This is just some thoughs on the progression of the allignment arguement on useing good and evil. It is my desire that everyone on this list be conciderate of others and what they want to do in their campaigns. If you don't feel pasionately about the topic I wouldn't even read this. (in fact if it wasn't for my habit of eventually reading everything that comes fron this list I would have given up on this thread a couple of days ago when it went from being about Mystara to being about why good and evil are not useful to mystara.) > I think to impose a good/evil axis, like in > AD&D and D&D3e, is to impose one groups > belief and perception, So? most people who read D&D have a fairly similar understanding of these terms (good and evil). As long as you keep some perspective on the terms it does not have to: > detract from the > overall experience of role-playing in other > societies/cultures and thus in Mystara. I think you are taking the good and evil thing too seriously and thus missing the point. AD&D (+3e) has them built into the system. People can and will use it if they want to. It's not that people are that much different in Mystara that they can't have good and evil alignments IMO. No-one needs good or evil in their alignments, but if they do it's still just a guide for us not for everyone in the world. An evil northlander might not actually be concidered evil by those around him, but still run around doing things that would make us percieve his personallity as so evil that he needs an evil alignment. I don't use good and evil much as alignments but I usually have an idea of personallity and alignments to me are just a simple summary of that (although usually over-analysed IMNSHO). It's can be useful in times when you are trying to decide what someones reaction would be, and L/C is just not enough. > In understanding, that cultures and different > groups might have different views on what is > good and evil, we know that good/evil are not > universal. It does not matter if they are or not. We all understand them on roughly the same terms and that can be enough. Other people find them useful, and while you may not, they are in the system. This hobby and this list is not about telling people what to do and what not to do, just being constructive. Telling someone "we don't use good and evil alignments in Mystara" is restrictive. Telling someone that "it is generally less obvious then in generic AD&D who is good and who is evil in Mystara" is a guideline that feels much easier for people to manipulate in any way they want. And they have every right to. Be polite about your ideas and people will be polite back. > However, I would like to add further that > good/evil in itself is a philosophy and is not > shared in some cultures. At least according to your philosophy of the world, which does not nececarally make it right. But we are not here to talk philosophy so I really don't care. If you really desire to talk about philosophies you can always mail me privately. But in the past bringing philosophy up on this list AFAIK is always a mistake and NEVER has the desired effect. Take it from me, you don't want to go there. I made that mistake once and I am very sorry. This was really just a reaction what looked to me like an unconstructive arguement and I have no intention of carrying this topic further. Thank you for your time. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 18:51:22 -0700 From: Chris Furneaux Subject: Re: Endless Armies > What is an "MA" ? Mystarian almanac and book of facts. Find it through the vaults (although if you havent already, shame on you as it is only the most impresive ammount of fan matterial I have ever seen.) Chris. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 22 Apr 2002 to 23 Apr 2002 (#2002-111) ****************************************************************