Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 20 Jan 2002 to 21 Jan 2002 (#2002-22) From: Automatic digest processor Date: 22/01/2002, 19:00 To: Recipients of MYSTARA-L digests Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 11 messages totalling 384 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. About the planetshift of Mystara (4) 2. elven city name (3) 3. mithril (3) 4. Great Netspellbooks ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 01:29:31 -0800 From: Herve Musseau Subject: Re: About the planetshift of Mystara From: "Andrew Theisen" > A brief (and unfleshed out) theory: The destruction of the technomagical/nuclear reactors in Blackmoor caused a chain reaction that spread to the Worldshield of Mystara (from whence these reactors drew much of their energy, possibly) which led to the shifting of the planet, as the Worldshield readjusted itself to compensate for the damage caused to it. > Of course, IMO, the actual planetshift took place over multiple millenia (which is why you still have cataclysms as recently as the 1700s, BC, where the Ierendi Isles, etc. are created). In addition, if you factor in the fact that Mystara is also sometimes called Urt, a living megalith (see http://dnd.starflung.com/urt.html), then the Rain of Fire hurt her and she had the megalithic equivalent of an epidermic reaction. The old wound is still fresh by megalithic standards, so it still sometimes hurts, causing those more recent quakes and volcanic activities. ===== ___________________________________________________________ Herve Musseau http://www.geocities.com/hmusseau/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 07:47:27 -0500 From: Jeff Daly Subject: Re: About the planetshift of Mystara All the replies have been good ones so far. I would add that the magical device which blew up was based on the Beagle's engines. Who knows what those crazy scientist-mages were trying to accomplish. Perhaps it had something to do with moving the planet...the shift in axis could be a partial success of whatever they were trying to do. > On 21 Jan 02, at 6:55, shawn stanley wrote: > > > Here's a question I got asked that I thought could be opened to everyone > > because I doubt a planet bound explosion alone would cause a planet shift. > > > > I'm puzzling my brain about the "Planetshift", which was caused by the > > Great Rain of Fire: is it possible shifting the axis of a planet with a > > nuclear bombing? I mean: perhaps the impact of a large size meteorite > > could, but not an atomic explosion... ;) Do you have a theory to explain > > the Planetshift? > >> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 08:51:18 -0500 From: Geoff Gander Subject: Re: elven city name > > --- Andrew Theisen skrev: > > > >> Check Gaz11: Republic of Darokin. In the DM's book, >> under "Darokin Society" >> (where it describes the Gold, Silver, and Copper >> classes, etc.- don't have >> page numbers handy at the moment), Mithril is >> mentioned as being used as >> materials for jewelry by the upper classes. Interesting...forgot about that. I find it odd that mithril wasn't mentioned in the other gazes, though (or was it? does anyone know?). SO, if, as Haavard says, it's up to the DM to determine the properties of mithril, then has anyone here done so? Geoff -- Geoff Gander, BA 97, MPA 02 Carnifex Loremaster/Mad Roleplayer Master of the Elemental Plane of Bureaucracy au998@freenet.carleton.ca : www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Realm/2091 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 08:31:31 -0600 From: George Hrabovsky Subject: Re: elven city name Yes, in D&D terms I made it a +3 metal (that is it adds +3 to the purpose for which the item is made), if used in weapons that weapon is automatically +3,+6 vs undead, if used in armor it is +3, +6 to save vs life drains. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Gander" To: Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] elven city name > > > > --- Andrew Theisen skrev: > > > > > >> Check Gaz11: Republic of Darokin. In the DM's book, > >> under "Darokin Society" > >> (where it describes the Gold, Silver, and Copper > >> classes, etc.- don't have > >> page numbers handy at the moment), Mithril is > >> mentioned as being used as > >> materials for jewelry by the upper classes. > > Interesting...forgot about that. I find it odd that mithril wasn't > mentioned in the other gazes, though (or was it? does anyone know?). SO, > if, as Haavard says, it's up to the DM to determine the properties of > mithril, then has anyone here done so? > > Geoff > > -- > Geoff Gander, BA 97, MPA 02 > Carnifex Loremaster/Mad Roleplayer > Master of the Elemental Plane of Bureaucracy > au998@freenet.carleton.ca : www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Realm/2091 > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:30:25 +0100 From: thibault sarlat Subject: mithril I happened to be DM at Rolemaster and MERP, and the rules there was that Mithril has an inherent power of +20 (in Rolemaster) which turn to + 4 in D&D... yet , i would say that +3 would be much more realistic... I also think that a proper enchantment sould be cast to reveal the magical properties of the Metal...(apart from its apparent lack of weight). thib ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 11:39:55 -0500 From: SteelAngel Subject: Re: About the planetshift of Mystara On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Herve Musseau wrote: > In addition, if you factor in the fact that Mystara is also sometimes called > Urt, a living megalith (see http://dnd.starflung.com/urt.html), then the Rain The Megalith idea was kind of dropped with the Hollow World and WoTI boxed sets, so I don't believe that it is considered 'canon' anymore. Ethan -- Kinard 210 Linux Guru Webmaster www.steelangel.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 18:17:17 +0000 From: Gilles Leblanc Subject: Re: About the planetshift of Mystara I myself have never liked the megalith idea which was never really mentionned in all the Gaz, boxed sets, almanacs and adventures I owned, only the Immortals boxed set which is more or less canon, let's say canon later revised. But for the planetshift, I don't try to explain it. It's kind of like SpellJammer ( which I have played a lot but never used with Mystara ) which starts with a phrase similar to this : Everything you know about space is wrong. Whit every object having it's own atmosphere and gravity working in axes rather that center :) Anyway, in the fantasy, magical world of dungeons and dragons Mystara the cataclysm changed the planet axis and that's it. Anyway that's my way of seing it. As for the polar openings it is mentioned in HW and I think WoTI that when this happened the immortals closed the old openings and made bigger ones where the new poles were. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 19:35:48 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Havard=20Faanes?= Subject: Re: mithril --- George Hrabovsky skrev: > Yes, in D&D terms I made it a +3 metal (that is it > adds +3 to the purpose > for which the item is made), if used in weapons that > weapon is automatically > +3,+6 vs undead, if used in armor it is +3, +6 to > save vs life drains. Sounds good. I was going to say it sounds quite powerful, but then again I'd rather have it be rare and powerful than as just another slightly magical item. I also thought about having some sort of detect evil ability. The elven blades in Tolkien glowed when Orcs were present. Ofcourse, about 50% weight reduction sounds about right, although thats not too important in D&D. Finally, I think it should be really rare on Mystara. Maybe rarer than on Middle-Earth. Havard ______________________________________________________ Sjekk snørapporter... fra 500 ski-destinasjoner i Europa på http://no.snow.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 20:06:53 +0100 From: Agathokles Subject: Re: elven city name Geoff Gander wrote: > > Interesting...forgot about that. I find it odd that mithril wasn't > mentioned in the other gazes, though (or was it? does anyone know?). SO, > if, as Haavard says, it's up to the DM to determine the properties of > mithril, then has anyone here done so? Uhm, according to AD&D sources, Mithril is used (alloyed) in the creation of Elven Chain Mail, so its effect would be that of halving the weight. However, it is likely that pure Mithril armor would be far more effective (probably it would be magical by itself, like Red Steel). Svirfneblin Mithral (I think this is the same as Mithril, changed for copyright purposes) improved chain mail is said to give AC2 (over standard AC4), and weapon and armor of +4 enchantment are said to be made with Mithral steel. Myself, I'd give -2 AC and 50% weight to pure Mithril armor, and -1 Initiative bonus and a die one size bigger to damage for non-bludgeoning weapons (so, a longsword would do 1d10 damage), at 50% weight. All of this would work both for AD&D and OD&D. -- Giampaolo Agosta agathokles@libero.it agosta@elet.polimi.it http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 13:52:54 -0600 From: Web Warlock Subject: Re: Great Netspellbooks You should try PlanetADnD's download site. They have quite a bit of stuff for both 1st and 2nd Ed AD&D. http://www.planetadnd.com/ Warlock. -- Web Warlock web.warlock@attbi.com Author, the Netbooks of Witches and Warlocks The Other Side: http://www.xtreme-gaming.com/~theotherside/ The DnD Community Council: http://www.dndcommunitycouncil.org/nbownw -- "If that is all the Gods can do then I'm over to the Dark Side so fast!" - Tom Servo, MST3k -----Original Message----- From: Mystara RPG Discussion [mailto:MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM]On Behalf Of Daniel Mayer Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 11:37 AM To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Subject: [MYSTARA] Great Netspellbooks Hi all! Years ago (ok, just three of them) I found this Great Netspellbook somewhere. Does anyone know if it was converted and perhaps extended for 3rd Ed.? After reading the rules fifth time and creating the 20th-or-more PC/NPC, I slowly get pleased with the new system. Any clues? Daniel Mayer aka Laren Nightmaster, Tower of Dreams ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:24:51 -0500 From: Christopher M Cherrington Subject: Re: mithril > -----Original Message----- > From: Mystara RPG Discussion [mailto:MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM]On > Behalf Of Havard Faanes > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 1:36 PM > To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] mithril > > I believe Mithril was the reason for dwarves exploring the Silver Sierras in Glantri. Since it is a rare metal, I would double the difficulties instead of giving bonuses for using rare materials in magical weapon making (from the Gaz's Glantri & Dwarves). Except in the skilled hands of ancient Elven Smiths and Dwarves. I mean this stuff is not as plentiful as in ancient times. Only a clan keeper would know the ancient incantations to use mithril as an alloy, for more reasons for the demand and lack thereof of the metal. Possibly when using this metal in forging you need sap from the Tree of Life to give it protective bonuses; and it can only be forged during the light of the full moon. Wasn't the inscription at the gates of Moria made of Mithril, and only visible by moonlight? A correctly made Mithril Chain would be nearly weightless and almost invisible, but very bright in the light of a full moon (the only way to test its purity). ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 20 Jan 2002 to 21 Jan 2002 (#2002-22) ***************************************************************