Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 6 Dec 2002 to 7 Dec 2002 (#2002-316) From: Automatic digest processor Date: 08/12/2002, 19:00 To: Recipients of MYSTARA-L digests Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 5 messages totalling 251 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Pages missing in ESDs (2) 2. Font Question 3. Days of the Week (2) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 16:05:34 +0100 From: Federico Kaftal Subject: Pages missing in ESDs Hi people. I just bought some Mystara ESD and there are bugs inside: please read my e-mail to them; I'll forward their answer as soon as I have any. Federico Kaftal ______________________ Dear sirs, I have just downloaded ESD TSR9272ESD.PDF and I notice that there's one page missing: At the end of the booklet there's a dungeon map obviously consisting of eight pages: only pages I-VII are there, the upper right page of the map has not been scanned. Would you please make sure to add the page to the ESD and to send me the missing page by e-mail as well? Thanks for your answer. Federico Kaftal _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 23:38:37 +0800 From: "Francisco V. Navarro V" Subject: Re: Pages missing in ESDs Hail Mystaran! Hail Federico! I had some problems with ESDs recently as well. One minor problem was technical in nature. I could not download from the link, but it turned out I had to "Save Target As..." rather than just "Open" the link. That was easily solved! A bigger problem was about the ESD quality itself. I bought the "Champions of Mystara" ESD. The first section (the "Heroes of the Princess Ark" manual) had printing that was lighter gray and slightly blurred. The second and thrid sections (the "Designer's Manual" and "Explorer's Manual") all had normal clear dark print! I e-mail SVGames, and they said it was a problem with how the ESD was scanned, and they're contacting the publisher if another scan will be provided. That was just the other week. No solution yet. Caveat emptor! Btw, what is TSR9272? Kit Navarro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Federico Kaftal" To: Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 11:05 PM Subject: [MYSTARA] Pages missing in ESDs > Hi people. I just bought some Mystara ESD and there are bugs inside: please > read my e-mail to them; I'll forward their answer as soon as I have any. > > Federico Kaftal > ______________________ > > > Dear sirs, > > I have just downloaded ESD TSR9272ESD.PDF and I notice that there's one page > missing: > > At the end of the booklet there's a dungeon map obviously consisting of > eight pages: only pages I-VII are there, the upper right page of the map has > not been scanned. > > Would you please make sure to add the page to the ESD and to send me the > missing page by e-mail as well? > > Thanks for your answer. > > Federico Kaftal > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 10:30:37 +0800 From: "Francisco V. Navarro V" Subject: Font Question Hail Mystarans! A simple question on fonts. Would anyone know what that font is used in the D&D maps? Kit Navarro ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 11:13:05 +0800 From: "Francisco V. Navarro V" Subject: Days of the Week Hail Mystarans! In the RW, the ancient Greeks and Romans kept time by observing the heavenly bodies, and thus named the days of the week after the seven closest planets. (The sun and moon were considered planets, and Saturn was believed to be the last planet.), and of course, the planets were named after the gods. Later on, they were substituted by the Germanic names (which referred only to the gods, not the planets.) There was also the Judeo-Christian influence, naming Saturday as the Sabbath and Monday and the Lord's Day (dies Domenica) Examples: Planet: Sun | Moon | Mars | Mercury | Jupiter | Venus | Saturn Greek: hemera (day) heliou | selenes | Areos | Hermu | Dios | Aphrodites | Khronu Roman: dies (day) solis | lunae | Martis | Mercurii | Jovis | Veneris | Saturni Romance: (Sunday = Domenica, Saturday = Sabbath) French: dimanche | lundi | mardi | mercredi | jeudi | vendredi | samedi Spanish: domingo | lunes | martes | miércoles | jueves | viernes | sábado Italian: domenica | lunedì | martedì | mercoledì | giovedì | venerdì | sabato Portuguese: domingo | segunda-feira | terça-feira | quarta-feira | quinta-feira | sexta-feira | sábado Germanic: (Tiw, Woden/Odin, Thor, Freya = Mars, Mercruy, Jupiter, Venus) English: Sunday | Monday | Tuesday | Wednesday | Thursday | Friday | Saturday German: Sonntag | Montag | Dienstag | Mittwoch (midweek) | Donnerstag | Freitag | Samstag Swedish: söndag | måndag | tisdag | onsdag | torsdag | fredag | lördag So after that short lecture on ancient history my question: What are the origins of the Thyatian and Alphatian days of the week? Thyatian: Lunadain | Gromdain | Tserdain | Moldain | Nytdain | Loshdain | Soladain Surely, Lunadain and Soladain are related to the moon (Luna, perhaps a variant Thyatian name for Matera) and the sun (named Solarios in Thyatian, whereas Ixion is more Milenian), and perhaps related to the Immortals as well. What about the rest? Surely not the planets. My only idea is that the day names were derived from certain minor Immortals of Timekeeping and Calendars, similar to the Horae (Hours) or Dice in Greek myth (goddesses of the hours and seasons, who kept the natural order of time, also goddess of justice). They would be 5 in number (5 Spheres?), and watch over the natural order of the days, months, seasons, and years. They need not be real Immortals, but legendary Thyatian figures (5 daughters of an Immortal?), who maintained harmony among the 5 Spheres. Alphatian: Majhur | Tijhur | Wojhur | Thajhur | Flajhur | Sejhur | Lajhur Two comments: 1. "jhur" sounds like the French word for day, "jour" 2. The first letter of the days are close to the RW days: M, T, W, Th, F, S, except for L. Of course, the Alphatians came from a different world, so who knows where they derived the names of their week? What are your ideas? Kit Navarro Glantrian Astronomer and Astrologer ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 00:31:42 -0500 From: Falconer Subject: Re: Days of the Week Francisco V. Navarro V wrote: > Planet: Sun | Moon | Mars | Mercury | Jupiter | Venus | Saturn > *snip* > Germanic: (Tiw, Woden/Odin, Thor, Freya = Mars, Mercruy, Jupiter, Venus) > English: Sunday | Monday | Tuesday | Wednesday | Thursday | Friday | > Saturday The Romans equated Germanic gods with their own gods (imperfectly) thus: Tyr = Mars (= Ares) Odin = Mercury (= Hermes) Thor = Jupiter (= Zeus) Freya = Venus (= Aphrodite) OT but interesting, I hope. :> Regards. -- Michael Falconer http://www.dwarvenmilitia.com/greyhawk/ "Because by fate even the gods are cast down, weep ye all with me." ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 6 Dec 2002 to 7 Dec 2002 (#2002-316) **************************************************************