Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 9 Jan 2003 to 10 Jan 2003 (#2003-11) From: Automatic digest processor Date: 11/01/2003, 19:00 To: Recipients of MYSTARA-L digests Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 3 messages totalling 231 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Who is Idris? (2) 2. War Journal Characters Part III ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 12:38:20 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Havard=20Faanes?= Subject: Re: Who is Idris? --- la Volpe skrev: > Ok, I need an answer for my campaign: > WHO IS IDRIS? There is no official answer to this. In X11, she is presented as an evil immortal. She is also IIRC referred to as a patron of evil dragons. Either that is said clearly or just indicated. I cant remember right now, but there is some dragon connection there. I have always liked the Idris is Hel explaination. This allows us to avoid introdicing new Immortals. Also, Hel as a patron of evil (chromatic dragons) fits very well with the Mystaros Blackmoor Timeline. Furthermore, Denagoth is not so far from where the original Beastmen were created (by Hel), which means this region might be a seat of power for her. I dont think any official explaination has been given to the true nature of the Night Dragons. It would make sense though, if normal Dragons can become Night Dragons through a corrupt version of the Ceremony of Sublimation. This may or may not require the aid of an Entropic Immortal, making the Night Dragons servants of any one of the Entropic Lords. Synn is probably the most powerful Night Dragon on Mystara, but I dont think she is powerful enough, or old enough to be Idris. > 1) In X11, who is Idris? Is she an identity of some > other Immortal or is she presented as a completely > new one? > > 2) In TSR's official PWAs, is she an identity of > some other Immortal or is she presented as another > entropic immortal? > > 3) In fan based Mystaran Almanacs, is she an > identity > of some other Immortal or is she presented as > another entropic immortal? > > 4) In your own opinion, who should she be? > > 5) Are the Night Dragons servants of Idris? Are they > servants of Thanatos? Or are they simply what > dragons > become if they are Entropic Renegades? (Please point > out references in canon for the answers to the point > 5 > questions, or remind me it's your opinion if it's > just your opinion). > > > Thanks for the help in advance. > > ===== > Iulius Sergius Scaevola > Captain of the XXth Cohort > Port Lucinius, Thyatis > > "We poor few forged as brothers in this furnace > will emerge as the steel of future generations" > -- from "Legionary's Prayers", by Ionaos > Nolan > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! 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It-s what I wanted to hear. > I have always liked the Idris is Hel explaination. > This allows us to avoid introdicing new Immortals. > Also, Hel as a patron of evil (chromatic dragons) > fits very well with the Mystaros Blackmoor Timeline. Ok. I agree, I think I'll use this explanation in my campaign. Anybody in the Almanac can tell me if there's an "official Almanac" answer to Idris's identity? If it's something that can spoil the next Almanac (s), e-mail me privately... ===== Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis "We poor few forged as brothers in this furnace will emerge as the steel of future generations" -- from "Legionary's Prayers", by Ionaos Nolan ______________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Cellulari: loghi, suonerie, picture message per il tuo telefonino http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mobile.yahoo.com/index2002.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 16:20:23 +0100 From: Jacob Skytte Subject: War Journal Characters Part III Brother and sister... Jacob Skytte scythe@wanadoo.dk *** Lot Geirsteinson Neutral 5th level Fighter (Str 17, Int 8, Wis 7, Dex 5*, Con 16, Cha 9, = AC 6, hp 39) *Lot's Dexterity is down by 5 pts. since he was lost an eye. His Dex = will eventually be partly or even completely restored with training. Personality Traits: Cautious/Rash 5/15, Peaceful/Violent 7/13, = Courageous/Fearful 14/6, Forgiving/Vengeful 6/14 23 years old, Blond hair, Blue eyes "I will kill you. Let this be a fight to the death." Firstborn son to Elsa the Seal and Jarl Geirstein Thorgelson, Lot always = knew that he was chosen to carry on his father's line and name. He = trained hard to become a great warrior and is already a veteran of many = conflicts. His brother Bue was always the more thoughtful and sensible = of the two, but Lot was assured that he was the strongest. Lot stood = fully behind his father's plans to usurp the throne. When Lot heard of his brother's betrayal, he was overcome with fury and = the need for vengeance. Rashly, he challenged Bue to a duel, but though = Lot cheated, in the end, he was the one who lost, a defeat which cost = him his left eye. Lot later managed to escape captivity with the aid of his sister Oda and = he continues to lie low, planning his brother's demise, while his wound = heals. In combat Lot prefers wielding a great two-handed sword of excellent = quality (+2 to hit, +1 to damage) and his favourite armor is banded = mail. Lot would dearly love to free his mother from thralldom to King Hord, = but the only other living relative (he believes his father to be dead) = that he cares even remotely for is his sister Oda. Lis Elsasdottir Lawful 1st level Thief (Str 8, Int 9, Wis 7, Dex 14, Con 13, Cha 11, AC = 8, hp 4) Personality Traits: Cautious/Rash 17/3, Modest/Proud 18/2, = Trusting/Suspicious 4/16 16 years old, Blond hair, Blue eyes "I'm still not sure I understand, but I believe in you." As the youngest daughter of Elsa the Seal and Jarl Geirstein Thorgelson = of Noslosford, Lis was soon cowed by her father into accepting her role = as a bride for an eventual political marriage. As she did not possess = the strong will of her older sister Oda, she never thought to actively = fight for any other life. Lis has always been close to her older brother = Bue and just as he would do anything for her, she would do the same for = him. While she has become a very guarded and cautious individual, she = has no secrets from Bue and trusts completely in him and his choices. = Any friend of Bue's is viewed in a very good light by Lis, but she will = not open up to any other. Though Lis is troubled by the fate of her family, she continues to = believe in Bue and his choices. She has accepted his explanation that = most of her family are greedy and ambitious. She misses her mother = though, and mourns for her fate as King Hord's thrall, hoping that Bue = will find a way to free Elsa. Bue believes that Lis is the epitome of innocence, where the truth might = actually be that Lis has blinded herself to a lot of truths in order to = cope with her situation and still be able to live with herself. Even though Lis has not been formally educated, she has the class of = thief. That doesn't mean that she steals from anybody (not unless asked = to by Bue), but those are the skills she has developed to cope with her = situation, perhaps in a quiet way of rebelling against her father. Lis carries no weapons or armour and has absolutely no combat skills. ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 9 Jan 2003 to 10 Jan 2003 (#2003-11) **************************************************************