Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 30 Jul 2003 to 31 Jul 2003 (#2003-186) From: Automatic digest processor Date: 01/08/2003, 17:00 To: Recipients of MYSTARA-L digests Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 7 messages totalling 246 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Bandeirantes (5) 2. village of Tavish (2) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:08:49 +0200 From: Thibault Sarlat Subject: Re: Bandeirantes about the Hives' Land i think it's a Hin controlled region. preuve is a name of apparent French/renardois origin, so maybe Lupins are there too... i don't remember my sources, but surely Adrian Matthias would know about this. Thibault Sarlat. ICQ 16622177. Personal homepage http://www.mystara.fr.st thibault.sarlat@wanadoo.fr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Asgor Ironfist" To: Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 5:40 AM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Bandeirantes > Hi everyone > Sorry Greg and Giampaolo for taking so long to answer, I had some problens > here ^^' > Anyway, I think that Giampaolo are right about Torreón and Narvaez. Despite > the fact that Narvaez have too an stable goverment (suported by the Church > of Narvaez), this state would rather expand absorving the local states. > Anyway, the Church of Narvaez appears to have some inner conflicts > (different ways of conversion, pehaps? One faction might think that they > have to persuade their enemies, and another thinks that they must make other > peoples accept Ixion by force) and this divergences sometimes are the main > cause of new settlements in unsettled lands. This can justify an narvaezan > settlement at the southern part of the Western Orclands. > By the way, I have some questions about the Yalu Bay: > > 1- I found two different (and incompatible) descriptions of Colony of The > Horn, do anyone know which one is the correct one? Or at leats which one is > more close to "the reality"? > 2- Porto Maldição appears at The Kwnown World Grimore as being an texeiran > colony, and at other sources as an vilaverdan colony. How Porto Maldição > became an vilaverdan colony? > 3- What lives at "Hives' Land"? > > Bye > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Hotmail, o maior webmail do Brasil. http://www.hotmail.com > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:16:26 +0200 From: Giampaolo Agosta Subject: Re: village of Tavish David Keyser wrote: > Has anyone done any development work on the village of > Tavish? Not that I know of. The only information I can find is that, originally, it was an Ethengaran holding under Bogdo Khan (according to the GPD history). Quoting from Harri Maki's pages: "Marquises of Tavish Southern parts of Tavish were incorporated in Principality of Krondahar in 859. Rest were incorporated in Principality of Klantyre in 879. Bogdo Khan 829-859" > I have been using 10d6 as the maximum it can hold and discharge, > but is that too much or too little? Any opinions? Uhm, consider that 10d6 is the 2E cap for spell power. If you want the dagger to be as powerful as any fireball, than it's ok. Myself, I'd probably limit it to 6d6. If it's for OD&D, than the limit might be doubled. -- Giampaolo Agosta http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:22:30 +0200 From: Giampaolo Agosta Subject: Re: Bandeirantes Thibault Sarlat wrote: > about the Hives' Land i think it's a Hin controlled region. preuve is a name > of apparent French/renardois origin, so maybe Lupins are there too... > i don't remember my sources, but surely Adrian Matthias would know about > this. IIRC, Preuve is a Renardois colony. This excerpt from the MA1016 seems to support the assumption. "Renardois traders from Preuve set up a formal trading post in the Zuyevan port-city of Kishinev. Renardois trade with Zuyevo has been increasing in the past few years and the establishment of the trading post cements the friendly relationship between the two countries." Bye, -- Giampaolo Agosta http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:42:18 +0200 From: Giampaolo Agosta Subject: Re: Bandeirantes Asgor Ironfist wrote: > > By the way, I have some questions about the Yalu Bay: > > 1- I found two different (and incompatible) descriptions of Colony of The > Horn, do anyone know which one is the correct one? Or at leats which one is > more close to "the reality"? Which descriptions? I suppose the one in the Savage Coast campaign book is one, which is the other though? > 2- Porto Maldição appears at The Kwnown World Grimore as being an texeiran > colony, and at other sources as an vilaverdan colony. How Porto Maldição > became an vilaverdan colony? No clue here, but it is possible that either Vilaverde bought or conquered it. Perhaps the land just wasn't that profitable for the Texeiran, and they sold it to the Vilaverdan, who might use it as a backup for their colony in Nimmur -- a plce where their people can flee if the Nimmurian change their mind. > 3- What lives at "Hives' Land"? No idea right now... I can't remember where the place is :( Bye, -- Giampaolo Agosta http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:56:10 -0400 From: Chris Cherrington Subject: Re: Bandeirantes > 3- What lives at "Hives' Land"? > I believe the main hive of the Hivebrood on Brun. If any Hin or humans are living near, they are only being breed for workers. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:13:39 -0300 From: Asgor Ironfist Subject: Re: Bandeirantes Hi The other description about the Colony of the Horn I found at Orc's Head Peninsula Sourcebook. While at the Savace Coast campaign book The Horn is mencioned as an prosperous colony, at the Orc's Head Peninsula sourcebook it's called the "pit of misery". Very incompatible. The Hives' Land is just north of the renardois colony of Preuve. I was thinking about place an Gauchos' colony there with the name of Novo Pampa (an version of the RW brazilian Gauchos), but it seens that they will have a lot of trouble in using this steppes because of the Hivebrood. Quite interesting =) By the way, I'm writting an more elaborated version about that idea of Baronato de Portos, I hope you don't mind if I post it here someday. Bye _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail, o maior webmail do Brasil. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:09:43 -0700 From: David Keyser Subject: Re: village of Tavish > > Quoting from Harri Maki's pages: > > "Marquises of Tavish > > Southern parts of Tavish were incorporated in Principality of Krondahar in 859. Rest were incorporated in Principality of Klantyre in 879. > > Bogdo Khan 829-859" > That doesn't mean parts of Tavish are still part of Krondahar does it? I suppose I could add a few Ethengarian residents along with the human and lupin population. > > > I have been using 10d6 as the maximum it can hold and discharge, > > but is that too much or too little? Any opinions? > Uhm, consider that 10d6 is the 2E cap for spell power. If you want the > dagger to be as powerful as any fireball, than it's ok. > Myself, I'd probably limit it to 6d6. If it's for OD&D, than the limit > might be doubled. > -- Using OD&D rules, 20d6 is the maximum. My logic is, a shortsword of blackflame is +4 and could reflect a 20d6 fireball. A dagger of blackflame is +2 and therefore I go with 10d6. ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 30 Jul 2003 to 31 Jul 2003 (#2003-186) ****************************************************************