Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 25 Nov 2003 to 26 Nov 2003 (#2003-279) From: Automatic digest processor Date: 27/11/2003, 19:00 To: Recipients of MYSTARA-L digests Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 11 messages totalling 1416 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Traldar & Co. (8) 2. almanac index (long) 3. Nithians, Traldar & Antalians (2) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:08:07 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?la=20Volpe?= Subject: Traldar & Co. Personally I never liked the idea that the Traldar were Nithians, nor that the Thyatians/Kerendans/Hattians were Antalians. In "A Complete Guide to Human Ethnography", that can be found on Shawn's (although I am slowly revising it), I suggested the following situation: 1) Nithians came from the Isle of Dawn, pushed out by the aggressive Dunael. They lived on the northwestern part of the Isle of Dawn. They reach nowadays Ylaruam around 2000 BC. 2) The situation in nowadays Ylaruam when the Nithians arrive: in the north, in the regions of Soderfjord and northern Ylaruam, live several tribes. These are of Antalian origin (like the Hattians) and of Thantalian origin (like Thyatians and Kerendans). The Thantalians are Antalian-related tribes. Thantalians and Antalians are related in the same way that the ancestors of RW-Italics (and thus Latins and Romans) were with the ancestors of RW-Germans - thus, very tightly related (according to several genetists and linguists like Cavalli-Sforza and George Dumezil). In the southwest, there are the Doulakki (e.g. Cynidicea). The Doulakki had recently come from the south (they originated in Thyatis). The southeast is not widely settled, although we can change things. 3) The Nithians rise to Empire-status and among various things they conquer all of Ylaruam and Soderfjord (except probably Cynidicea - but I haven't read the Cynidicea Gaz yet). The Nithians' policy is to take several clans of conquered populations to send them as colonists in other lands, as to pave way for a future colonization by their own people. This explains the Traldar being taken to Karameikos (and the fact that they are of different skin tone, racial features and religion), and the fact that Hattians are more related to the original Antalians than the other two tribes are. Just my 2 lire (now worthless). Giulio aka Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ______________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail: 6MB di spazio gratuito, 30MB per i tuoi allegati, l'antivirus, il filtro Anti-spam http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:07:03 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Harri_M=E4ki?= Subject: almanac index (long) hi all, here is the reason why I have been nitpicking about dead persons and other = mistakes in net almanacs during this autumn. Some months ago I was trying t= o find some data I knew was there in one of the almanacs. I didn't remember= the year, so I had to go through three of them. After that I began to make= geographical/political index for me.=20 And here it is. I hope somebody else finds this also usefull.=20 Harri OLD WORLD=20 1017 Felmont 7; Sviftmont 22 1018 Nuwmont 5; Vatermont 24; Fyrmont 14 AENGMOR (City) 1014 Nuwmont 4; Yarthmont 20; Fyrmont 2, 5; Ambyrmont 2, 14; Kaldmont 8, 22 1015 Nuwmont 10, 20; Klarmont 11 AENGMOR (Colony) 1014 Nuwmont 4; Vatermont 3, 28; Thaumont 9, 27; Yarthmont 12, 19; Fyrmont = 5; Ambyrmont 22, Sviftmont 12; Kaldmont 8, 22 1015 Nuwmont 1, 4, 15, 17; Felmont 18; Fyrmont 3, 26; Ambyrmont 1; Sviftmon= t 17 1016 Nuwmont 23; Vatermont 14; Thaumont 6, 11, 14, 20, 27; Flaurmont 12; Ya= rthmont 7-8, 13, 18; Klarmont 3, 24; Fyrmont 26; Ambyrmont 16; Sviftmont 17= , 27 1017 Yarthmont 16; Klarmont 2; Ambyrmont 3, 14-15, 25; Sviftmont 1 1018 Vatermont 27; Fyrmont 8 ATRUAGHIN CLANS=20 1014 Thaumont 12 1015 Nuwmont 22; Vatermont 12, 19; Thaumont 1, 17, 26; Flaurmont 3, 12; Yar= thmont 20 BIAZZAN=20 1016 Eirmont 7 1017 Yarthmont 11; Fyrmont 9; Eirmont 21 BORYDOS=20 1014 Flaurmont 13 1016 Thaumont 3 1017 Ambyrmont 5 BROKEN LANDS 1014 Kaldmont 17 1015 Nuwmont 7; Thaumont 25; Flaurmont 4; Klarmont 1 1016 Sviftmont 8; Eirmont 10 BUHROHUR 1016 Thaumont 9=20 1017 Ambyrmont 27 CARYTION=20 1018 Vatermont 27 DAROKIN 1014 Vatermont 6; Thaumont 5, 7; Flaurmont 11, 20, 24; Yarthmont 1; Fyrmont= 2; Kaldmont 11 1015 Thaumont 8; Flaurmont 5, 20; Yarthmont 1, 10, 12, 18; Klarmont 9; Felm= ont 1, 3, 13, 25; Fyrmont 3,26; Kaldmont 24=20 1016 Vatermont 26; Thaumont 4, 6-8, 18, 20; Flaurmont 2, 4, 8, 13, 22; Yart= hmont 2, 5-6, 11, 13, 22; Klarmont 4, 18; Felmont 1, 10, 15; Fyrmont 18; Sv= iftmont 17 1017 Nuwmont 12; Vatermont 3; Thaumont 26; Flaurmont 5, 7, 23; Felmont 1, 1= 0-11; Fyrmont 4, 6, 8; Ambyrmont 25; Sviftmont 3, 13 1018 Nuwmont 20; Vatermont 19; Thaumont 8; Flaurmont 21-22; Yarthmont 8, 10= , 19, 27; Klarmont 11; Felmont 15, 18; Ambyrmont 1, 4-5, 9; Sviftmont 15 ETHENGAR=20 1014 Fyrmont 2, 26; Ambyrmont 4, 8-9 1015 Flaurmont 9, 13, 15, 17, 20, 23; Yarthmont 4, 18; Klarmont 11, 19; Fel= mont 6, 8, 26; Fyrmont 1, 4, 8, 16, 20; Sviftmont 23 1016 Nuwmont 1; Thaumont 8; Flaurmont 11, 16; Yarthmont 9, 13; Fyrmont 3; A= mbyrmont 11; Kaldmont 28 1017 Flaurmont 11; Yarthmont 14, 20; Klarmont 27; Felmont 3, 18; Fyrmont 10= , 12, 15; Ambyrmont 11; Eirmont 15-16 1018 Nuwmont 11; Yarthmont 5; Klarmont 8; Ambyrmont 23; Eirmont 15-16 FIVE SHIRES=20 1015 Nuwmont 10, 19; Thaumont 20; Flaurmont 3; Yarthmont 12; Klarmont 8, 22= ; Felmont 15; Fyrmont 1, 15, 20, 28; Ambyrmont 1, 7 1016 Felmont 10 1017 Thaumont 9; Klarmont 22; Felmont 1, 10; Fyrmont 13 1018 Nuwmont 19, 28; Vatermont 11, 20, 26; Thaumont 6, 10; Flaurmont 13; Kl= armont 7, 21; Felmont 7, 21; Fyrmont 7; Ambyrmont 1, 6, 20; Sviftmont 18; K= aldmont 3, 10, 26 GLANTRI=20 1014 Nuwmont 1, 5; Thaumont 28; Flaurmont 3; Felmont 15; Fyrmont 2; Ambyrmo= nt 9; Sviftmont 3; Kaldmont 17 1015 Nuwmont 17; Vatermont 3, 7, 17; Flaurmont 9, 13, 15, 17, 20, 23; Yarth= mont 4, 18, 20; Klarmont 11, 19; Felmont 3, 6, 8, 10, 23, 26; Fyrmont 1, 4-= 5, 8, 16, 20, 25-26, 28; Ambyrmont 4, 14; Sviftmont 4, 6, 25 1016 Nuwmont 1-3, 5, 13, 15; Vatermont 3-4, 13, 16; Thaumont 7, 17, 25; Fla= urmont 12, 20; Yarthmont 1, 23; Klarmont 3; Felmont 9-10, 15; Ambyrmont 1, = 3, 10, 16; Sviftmont 26; Eirmont 8 1017 Nuwmont 2, 14; Vatermont 3, 7, 9-10, 12, 15, 24; Thaumont 6, 8-9, 11, = 14; Flaurmont 4, 11, 13; Yarthmont 27; Klarmont 10-11, 17-18, 20; Felmont 7= , 15, 18, 20; Fyrmont 3, 7, 16, 23; Ambyrmont 1, 22, 24-25, 27; Sviftmont 1= , 12, 20; Eirmont 2, 5, 10, 20; Kaldmont 14, 19, 22, 26-27 1018 Nuwmont 1, 5; Vatermont 3, 9, 18, 28; Thaumont 7, 11, 15; Flaurmont 1;= Yarthmont 10, 12, 16; Klarmont 3, 15; Felmont 4, 15, 26; Fyrmont 1, 9, 14,= 22; Ambyrmont 4, 8, 27; Sviftmont 1, 15, 20; Eirmont 2, 12; Kaldmont 2, 5,= 17, 22 GRAAKHALIA 1014 Nuwmont 8 1016 Eirmont 12 GR=C5BJERGE / MODRISWERG 1018 Nuwmont 14; Vatermont 5, 18; Yarthmont 19; Felmont 3; Fyrmont 2; Svift= mont 5, 13; Eirmont 4; Kaldmont 3, 12 HATTIAS=20 1016 Ambyrmont 18, 22; Eirmont 1; Kaldmont 4 1017 Vatermont 1; Yarthmont 6; Ambyrmont 3, 23; Eirmont 20 1018 Flaurmont 6 HELDANN=20 1014 Thaumont 17; Yarthmont 14; Felmont 7; Fyrmont 26; Eirmont 23, 28; Kald= mont 2, 20 1015 Nuwmont 17, 27; Vatermont 5, 8, 11; Thaumont 20, 25; Flaurmont 3-4, 20= , 22; Yarthmont 10-11; Klarmont 5, 8-10, 15; Felmont 2, 9, 13; Fyrmont 13, = 25-28; Ambyrmont 4, 6, 16, 25; Sviftmont 8, 20; Eirmont 4, 10 1016 Flaurmont 4, 6-7; Yarthmont 13; Klarmont 15, 17; Felmont 2, 8, 14; Fyr= mont 10, 12-13, 19; Ambyrmont 10, 19; Sviftmont 1, 15; Eirmont 10, 25; Kald= mont 2-5, 20 1017 Nuwmont 1; Vatermont 3, 13, 22; Thaumont 1-2, 13, 15-17; Flaurmont 2, = 21; Klarmont 10, 12; Ambyrmont 26, 28; Sviftmont 2, 6, 21, 25; Eirmont 14, = 17; Kaldmont 12 1018 Nuwmont 3, 23; Vatermont 12, 20; Thaumont 24; Flaurmont 2, 27; Yarthmo= nt 1, 17, 22, 27; Klarmont 9; Felmont 22; Sviftmont 4, 6; Eirmont 10; Kaldm= ont 5 IERENDI=20 1014 Vatermont 9 1015 Klarmont 1 1016 Thaumont 4-5 1017 Nuwmont 16; Klarmont 1, 15; Fyrmont 10; Sviftmont 3 1018 Thaumont 22; Klarmont 5; Fyrmont 10; Ambyrmont 7, 18, 28; Sviftmont 1-= 3, 13; Eirmont 1-2, 17 JAIBUL 1016 Vatermont 19 1017 Thaumont 17; Eirmont 19 KADESH 1016 Flaurmont 13, 21=20 KANTRIUM=20 1017 Nuwmont 18; Yarthmont 6=20 KARAMEIKOS 1014 Nuwmont 7; Vatermont 16; Felmont 3, 18; Fyrmont 9, 11; Sviftmont 8 1015 Nuwmont 6, 10, 12, 15, 17-18, 26; Vatermont 4, 15, 18; Thaumont 15; Ya= rthmont 15; Klarmont 21; Felmont 24; Fyrmont 11; Ambyrmont 1, 11 1016 Thaumont 15, 20; Klarmont 9; Felmont 6, 10, 13; Fyrmont 12, 17; Ambyrm= ont 14; Sviftmont 4, 10, 12, 17, 28; Eirmont 4, 10; Kaldmont 15 1017 Nuwmont 4, 8; Vatermont 3-4, 16, 19; Thaumont 2, 4-5, 14; Flaurmont 6,= 10; Yarthmont 23, 26; Klarmont 15; Felmont 1-2, 10; Ambyrmont 21, 25 1018 Nuwmont 1; Thaumont 14-15; Yarthmont 3, 27; Felmont 4; Ambyrmont 2, 17= ; Sviftmont 20; Eirmont 16, 19, 22-24, 26; Kaldmont 1, 6-7, 14, 17, 22, 27 KERENDAS=20 1016 Sviftmont 16, 22-23 1017 Nuwmont 14-15 1018 Yarthmont 5 MACHETOS=20 1017 Nuwmont 21 MINROTHAD 1014 Fyrmont 4; Eirmont 5 1015 Yarthmont 1; Felmont 3=20 1016 Nuwmont 27; Thaumont 11, 21; Yarthmont 18, 25; Klarmont 2; Sviftmont 2= 1 1017 Vatermont 16; Thaumont 9; Flaurmont 9; Sviftmont 6, 27 ORCLAND=20 1014 Flaurmont 11; Yarthmont 1; Klarmont 5; Fyrmont 2, 5, 17, 20; Ambyrmont= 3, 6 1015 Vatermont 4 1016 Klarmont 4, 18 1917 Yarthmont 1 OSTLAND 1015 Nuwmont 1; Vatermont 11; Thaumont 15; Flaurmont 7; Yarthmont 18; Ambyr= mont 6, 10; Eirmont 13; Flaurmont 2, 4 1016 Eirmont 6 1017 Felmont 9; Ambyrmont 22; Eirmont 2, 27 1018 Nuwmont 19; Vatermont 5, 18; Flaurmont 1; Eirmont 4, 24; Kaldmont 8 PESHMIR 1015 Felmont 8 1016 Flaurmont 21 RETEBIUS=20 1017 Flaurmont 13, 17, 24 1018 Yarthmont 5; Felmont 12; Fyrmont 4; Ambyrmont 9 ROCKHOME=20 1014 Felmont 17, 24 1015 Fyrmont 24; Ambyrmont 15; Sviftmont 8, 14, 20; Eirmont 5, 8, 22; Kaldm= ont 1, 10, 15, 19 1016 Nuwmont 9; Vatermont 4, 17; Thaumont 9, 17, 23; Yarthmont 2, 7, 14; Kl= armont 1, 4, 9; Felmont 7, 22; Fyrmont 6; Ambyrmont 2, 22; Sviftmont 7; Eir= mont 4, 27; Kaldmont 28 1017 Yarthmont 9; Fyrmont 17 1018 Thaumont 7; Klarmont 26; Felmont 3, 9; Fyrmont 2, 16; Ambyrmont 15; Sv= iftmont 2, 5; Eirmont 15, 20; Kaldmont 28 SCLARAS=20 1017 Kaldmont 27 SERRAINE=20 1014 Fyrmont 12 1015 Ambyrmont 2, 13 1016 Vatermont 19; Ambyrmont 12 SHADOW ELVES=20 1014 Kaldmont 8, 22 1015 Vatermont 21; Thaumont 26; Sviftmont 13, 25; Eirmont 24, 27; Kaldmont = 2-3, 5, 10-12, 14, 27-28 1016 Nuwmont 1-3, 15; Vatermont 8, 14; Flaurmont 28; Klarmont 10; Felmont 1= 0; Fyrmont 1; Kaldmont 28 SIND=20 1014 Vatermont 11, 17, 23, 25; Thaumont 16; Flaurmont 1, 10, 14, 21; Yarthm= ont 8; Klarmont 2, 5, 22; Felmont 6, 17; Ambyrmont 1; Eirmont 7 1015 Flaurmont 12, 19; Yarthmont 4, 19; Klarmont 2, 5-6, 9-11, 26; Felmont = 1, 8, 11 1016 Vatermont 5; Thaumont 2, 14, 19; Flaurmont 3, 13, 21; Felmont 8; Fyrmo= nt 22; Ambyrmont 3-4, 6, 12, 17; Sviftmont 2; Eirmont 3, 12, 15-16 1017 Thaumont 22; Yarthmont 19; Ambyrmont 17, 19; Sviftmont 11, 15; Kaldmon= t 8, 12 SODERFJORD=20 1014 Flaurmont 10, 25; Yarthmont 8, 12, 16, 28; Klarmont 23, 25, 28; Felmon= t 12; Fyrmont 14 1015 Yarthmont 18 1017 Eirmont 3, 20 1018 Vatermont 5; Flaurmont 17; Yarthmont 19, 22; Klarmont 9, 16; Felmont 9= ; Eirmont 6, 8, 15, 20, 22; Kaldmont 28 TAMERONIKAS=20 1017 Eirmont 22, 24, 28; Kaldmont 5 TEL AKBIR=20 1016 Eirmont 8 1017 Nuwmont 2-3, 5, 15, 20, 22; Yarthmont 3; Felmont 15 TERENTIAS =20 1016 Ambyrmont 13 THYATIS (Duchy of)=20 1016 Klarmont 1, 15; Ambyrmont 27; Sviftmont 20; Eirmont 1, 5, 14, 17 1017 Nuwmont 7; Klarmont 6, 24; Felmont 1; Fyrmont 16; Ambyrmont 10, 19, 24= , 28; Sviftmont 4, 9, 11, 28; Eirmont 2, 7, 26; Kaldmont 10-11, 21 1018 Vatermont 1; Thaumont 1; Flaurmont 19; Eirmont 5 THYATIS (Empire of) 1014 Flaurmont 13; Fyrmont 12; Ambyrmont 18 1015 Yarthmont 6; Klarmont 10, 14; Felmont 15, 19; Fyrmont 12; Eirmont 2, 1= 3=20 1016 Nuwmont 1, 3, 5, 7, 18, 21; Vatermont 1, 6, 12-13; Thaumont 3, 14-15, = 21; Flaurmont 1-2, 6, 10-11, 15, 17-18; Yarthmont 3, 11, 17-18, 25-26; Klar= mont 2, 20; Felmont 3, 10, 20; Fyrmont 4, 11-12, 17; Ambyrmont 10; Sviftmon= t 1, 10, 17, 20-24; Eirmont 1, 5, 7-8, 14, 17, 19-20, 22-23; Kaldmont 1-4, = 7, 14, 20, 27-28 1017 Nuwmont 1-5, 7, 15, 18, 20-21; Vatermont 1, 3, 12, 14, 16, 19, 21, 25;= Thaumont 4-5, 9, 12, 15, 19, 23; Flaurmont 1-2, 9, 11-12, 27; Yarthmont 4,= 13, 18, 22, 25, 27-28; Klarmont 10; Felmont 4, 9, 11, 13-14; Fyrmont 1, 4-= 5, 9-10, 12, 14, 19, 26; Ambyrmont 12, 14, 20; Sviftmont 11, 15, 17, 21, 27= ; Eirmont 8, 18, 21-22, 24, 28; Kaldmont 5, 8, 15, 28 1018 Nuwmont 2, 7, 10, 13; Vatermont 8, 12, 18; Thaumont 12; Flaurmont 27; = Yarthmont 1, 8, 11, 22; Klarmont 1; Sviftmont 7; Kaldmont 28 TWAELAR=20 1015 Felmont 15, 19 1016 Flaurmont 11; Yarthmont 17; Felmont 3; Fyrmont 12 1017 Thaumont 13; Yarthmont 16; Fyrmont 10, 19 VESTLAND=20 1014 Flaurmont 27; Yarthmont 23; Fyrmont 6, 8, 10, 14, 20-21, 25; Ambyrmont= 1, 5; Sviftmont 4 1015 Thaumont 6; Klarmont 9; Felmont 4; Ambyrmont 11 1016 Nuwmont 1-2; Felmont 10 1017 Thaumont 17; Sviftmont 25; Eirmont 3 1018 Nuwmont 14; Vatermont 5; Thaumont 12; Felmont 3; Ambyrmont 10, 15; Svi= ftmont 2, 13, 19; Eirmont 24, 26; Kaldmont 3, 8, 12, 28 VYALIA=20 1016 Vatermont 17 1018 Yarthmont 12; Klarmont 15; Fyrmont 17 WENDAR 1014 Nuwmont 22 1015 Nuwmont 6, 8, 14; Vatermont 16, 24, 27; Thaumont 3, 9; Yarthmont 22, 2= 7; Klarmont 2, 10; Felmont 18; Fyrmont 8, 15; Ambyrmont 1; Sviftmont 10; Ka= ldmont 28=20 1016 Nuwmont 2, 7, 13; Vatermont 3, 9, 21; Thaumont 12, 20, 27; Flaurmont 1= 6, 19, 26; Yarthmont 21; Klarmont 11, 14, 22, 24, 27; Felmont 4, 10; Fyrmon= t 7, 14, 16, 27; Sviftmont 4, 10; Kaldmont 28 1017 Nuwmont 1; Thaumont 22; Yarthmont 27; Ambyrmont 16, 28; Kaldmont 28 1018 Nuwmont 1, 19; Vatermont 4; Thaumont 3, 6, 25; Flaurmont 18, 20; Yarth= mont 5; Klarmont 6; Felmont 7; Fyrmont 7; Ambyrmont 2, 25; Sviftmont 23; Ei= rmont 9, 15; Kaldmont 5 YLARUAM=20 1014 Klarmont 15, 26; Felmont 5; Fyrmont 15, 22, 28; Ambyrmont 3, 5, 9, 12-= 13, 20; Sviftmont 6, 19; Eirmont 1, 9; Kaldmont 15, 19, 21 1015 Thaumont 1, 18; Fyrmont 12, 18, 22, 28; Ambyrmont 14; Sviftmont 1, 10,= 15, 24; Eirmont 4, 7; Kaldmont 12, 20 1016 Eirmont 7-8 1017 Nuwmont 5, 12, 17, 19, 22; Vatermont 15; Thaumont 6; Flaurmont 1; Yart= hmont 5, 9, 20; Klarmont 10, 13; Felmont 3, 9; Fyrmont 5, 9-10, 12, 14, 26;= Ambyrmont 1, 14; Eirmont 8, 18, 21-22, 24; Kaldmont 5 1018 Vatermont 25; Thaumont 11; Klarmont 6; Fyrmont 4; Eirmont 7, 15 ALPHATIAN SEA=20 1015 Felmont 5; Ambyrmont 13; Kaldmont 28 1016 Nuwmont 1, 16, 28; Vatermont 9, 20; Thaumont 8; Flaurmont 17; Yarthmon= t 16; Sviftmont 19; Eirmont 8; Kaldmont 16, 20 1017 Vatermont 1; Yarthmont 12; Felmont 10; Fyrmont 16, 22-23; Ambyrmont 22= ; Sviftmont 1, 15, 23; Eirmont 12, 14, 18 1018 Thaumont 25; Fyrmont 14 AQUAS=20 1015 Fyrmont 14 1016 Nuwmont 1, 12, 20; Vatermont 7, 18; Klarmont 11, 24; Felmont 18; Fyrmo= nt 10, 27 1017 Thaumont 11, 27; Yarthmont 9, 23; Fyrmont 24-26 1018 Nuwmont 17; Yarthmont 12; Klarmont 3; Felmont 1; Ambyrmont 19; Kaldmon= t 1 DAWNRIM=20 1016 Thaumont 20; Flaurmont 24; Yarthmont 13; Klarmont 3 EIRUNDRYNN 1016 Kaldmont 21, 27 1018 Sviftmont 6 FLOATING ARKAN=20 1014 Vatermont 18 1015 Ambyrmont 24 1016 Nuwmont 15 1017 Vatermont 16; Ambyrmont 12 1018 Yarthmont 14; Fyrmont 26 GREY ISLANDS=20 1016 Vatermont 12, 16; Thaumont 5 IONACE=20 1014 Vatermont 1, 15; Thaumont 17; Flaurmont 1, 28 1015 Flaurmont 19, 28; Klarmont 2; Fyrmont 9 1016 Nuwmont 2; Vatermont 7; Fyrmont 9 1017 Nuwmont 6, 9, 17, 19 1018 Flaurmont 19; Yarthmont 5; Ambyrmont 18; Sviftmont 9, 19, 23; Eirmont = 14 LAGRIUS=20 1016 Nuwmont 26; Vatermont 19, 21; Thaumont 8, 14; Flaurmont 2; Klarmont 16= ; Ambyrmont 18; Sviftmont 13, 16; Eirmont 19 1017 Thaumont 17; Felmont 15; Ambyrmont 7 1018 Kaldmont 3 MERIANDER=20 1016 Fyrmont 2; Ambyrmont 5, 12; Sviftmont 27 1018 Fyrmont 4 NAYCE 1014 Nuwmont 7, 13, 15; Vatermont 1; Yarthmont 11, 23; Fyrmont 19; Ambyrmon= t 21-22; Sviftmont 8-9; Eirmont 12 1015 Vatermont 1; Ambyrmont 28; Eirmont 15; Kaldmont 26 1016 Nuwmont 3; Vatermont 16; Thaumont 1, 3, 15; Flaurmont 1-2, 17, 27; Yar= thmont 6; Klarmont 8, 26; Felmont 10, 12, 14, 16-17; Fyrmont 3, 11-12, 14, = 19, 22; Ambyrmont 4, 11, 14, 18; Sviftmont 6, 8; Eirmont 1; Kaldmont 15, 19= , 21 1017 Nuwmont 7, 22; Vatermont 10, 19; Thaumont 8, 19; Yarthmont 4, 14, 26; = Klarmont 6, 19, 24, 27; Felmont 3, 20; Fyrmont 8, 22, 26-27; Ambyrmont 12, = 14; Sviftmont 6-7, 12, 19; Eirmont 19 1018 Nuwmont 12, 20; Vatermont 8; Thaumont 14, 16; Klarmont 25; Fyrmont 20,= 22; Ambyrmont 9; Sviftmont 18, 22 NOTRION=20 1016 Nuwmont 10, 25; Vatermont 24; Thaumont 26; Flaurmont 11, 19, 28; Yarth= mont 1; Klarmont 1, 8; Felmont 28; Kaldmont 1 1017 Nuwmont 12, 20; Fyrmont 23; Kaldmont 2 1018 Nuwmont 10; Thaumont 15, 17; Flaurmont 6; Yarthmont 26; Eirmont 3 QEODHAR=20 1014 Nuwmont 13; Vatermont 18, 21; Sviftmont 9 1016 Flaurmont 6-8; Yarthmont 19, 23, 25-26; Klarmont 10; Felmont 14; Fyrmo= nt 8, 16, 26, 28; Ambyrmont 5, 18; Sviftmont 15, 22; Eirmont 4; Kaldmont 19 1017 Nuwmont 21; Vatermont 15, 27; Thaumont 16; Yarthmont 4; Fyrmont 9, 15,= 27-28; Ambyrmont 1, 9-10, 12, 22; Eirmont 2, 27 1018 Nuwmont 3, 13; Vatermont 24; Thaumont 17; Flaurmont 2-4, 6, 17, 20; Kl= armont 8; Felmont 12; Fyrmont 20 SUNKEN ALPHATIAN MAINLAND=20 1016 Yarthmont 17, 22; Klarmont 17; Felmont 7, 15, 21; Kaldmont 6, 28 1017 Nuwmont 3-4, 6, 18; Vatermont 14, 25; Thaumont 2; Yarthmont 5, 17; Kla= rmont 11; Felmont 8, 22, 27; Ambyrmont 2, 4, 16, 18-20, 26; Sviftmont 5; Ei= rmont 14; Kaldmont 12 1018 Nuwmont 1, 19, 27; Vatermont 2, 13, 18, 20-21, 24-25; Flaurmont 1, 15;= Klarmont 1, 9, 17, 23; Felmont 8, 11, 17; Eirmont 14 SURSHIELD=20 1016 Yarthmont 6, 13; Fyrmont 13; Eirmont 11; Kaldmont 21; Ambyrmont 24 1018 Fyrmont 16; Eirmont 21 TURMOIL=20 1016 Kaldmont 21 1018 Ambyrmont 5 UNDEROCEAN 1016 Nuwmont 12; Thaumont 8; Klarmont 24; Felmont 17; Fyrmont 3, 19; Ambyrm= ont 4, 11; Sviftmont 8; Eirmont 1 1017 Nuwmont 19; Vatermont 10, 19; Thaumont 8, 11, 19; Yarthmont 5, 14, 26;= Sviftmont 5 1018 Nuwmont 19; Vatermont 20-21, 24-25; Thaumont 14; Flaurmont 1; Klarmont= 1; Felmont 8, 17; Sviftmont 3 VEROTH=20 1016 Fyrmont 11; Sviftmont 3, 16; Eirmont 1 1018 Flaurmont 11; Eirmont 25 SEA OF DAWN=20 1017 Vatermont 4; Thaumont 2; Klarmont 3; Felmont 20; Fyrmont 19 1018 Fyrmont 14 AEGOS=20 1014 Eirmont 5 1015 Thaumont 4, 14; Yarthmont 8; Felmont 23; Eirmont 10 1016 Flaurmont 5, 12-13, 16-17, 20, 27; Yarthmont 8, 23, 26, 28; Klarmont 6= ; Felmont 10, 18 CAERDWICCA=20 1016 Fyrmont 13 DUNADALE 1014 Eirmont 12 1016 Nuwmont 13, 19; Thaumont 11 EKTO=20 1017 Ambyrmont 8; Sviftmont 4 GAITY=20 1014 Yarthmont 13 1015 Nuwmont 10 1016 Klarmont 19; Fyrmont 9, 22; Ambyrmont 25 HELDUN / HELSKIR=20 1014 Ambyrmont 21-22 1016 Nuwmont 7; Thaumont 14, 18, 20, 23; Flaurmont 2-3; Klarmont 21; Kaldmo= nt 2-5 1017 Nuwmont 4; Vatermont 3, 20; Thaumont 2, 13, 15-17, 20; Flaurmont 2, 17= , 21; Yarthmont 4, 10, 28; Felmont 7, 19, 23; Fyrmont 2, 9, 16, 18, 20, 23-= 25; Ambyrmont 2, 6-10, 12, 15, 17; Sviftmont 3, 6, 10, 16 1018 Felmont 19; Fyrmont 14, 26; Ambyrmont 3, 21 HESPIRIA 1017 Ambyrmont 7 HILLVALE=20 1016 Vatermont 22; Thaumont 1=20 1017 Vatermont 26; Klarmont 22; Felmont 27; Ambyrmont 17; Sviftmont 5, 13 KENDACH=20 1016 Sviftmont 26; Eirmont 19 1017 Yarthmont 25 NE'ER-DO-WELL=20 1014 Fyrmont 26 1016 Ambyrmont 14 1017 Yarthmont 5 OCHALEA=20 1016 Thaumont 25; Fyrmont 11, 17; Ambyrmont 10; Sviftmont 1, 21; Eirmont 10 1017 Thaumont 17; Flaurmont 2; Klarmont 17 PEARL ISLANDS=20 1016 Thaumont 25; Fyrmont 11, 17; Ambyrmont 10; Sviftmont 1, 21; Eirmont 10 1017 Flaurmont 14, 16; Eirmont 13 1018 Vatermont 3 REDSTONE=20 1016 Sviftmont 26; Eirmont 19 SEPTENTRIONA=20 1016 Nuwmont 5; Felmont 7 1017 Vatermont 14; Yarthmont 20; Fyrmont 7, 11 THOTHIA=20 1016 Thaumont 12; Flaurmont 5; Klarmont 4, 13; Felmont 5; Ambyrmont 10; Svi= ftmont 18; Kaldmont 12 1017 Nuwmont 4; Vatermont 11; Klarmont 12; Sviftmont 4, 7, 19; Kaldmont 3, = 12, 24 TRIKELIOS=20 1016 Yarthmont 18; Eirmont 1 1017 Flaurmont 7; Sviftmont 4 WEST PORTAGE=20 1014 Ambyrmont 18 1016 Sviftmont 26; Eirmont 19 1017 Yarthmont 25 WESTROURKE=20 1016 Flaurmont 21, 25; Eirmont 9, 19 DAVANIA=20 1014 Thaumont 14, 17-18, 22; Flaurmont 12, 25, 28; Yarthmont 3, 25, 27; Kla= rmont 1, 20, 23 1015 Flaurmont 4, 22; Felmont 9, 13; Fyrmont 13 1016 Ambyrmont 2-3 1017 Flaurmont 17, 19; Yarthmont 3, 9, 12; Klarmont 20, 24; Ambyrmont 9 1018 Vatermont 18, 21; Thaumont 6; Flaurmont 1-2; Yarthmont 7, 18, 20, 27; = Klarmont 3; Felmont 22; Fyrmont 5, 7, 14; Sviftmont 24 CESTIA 1015 Yarthmont 10-11 1018 Ambyrmont 5, 8, 13 EMEROND=20 1016 Sviftmont 17; Kaldmont 20, 27 1017 Fyrmont 26 GARGANIN=20 1018 Fyrmont 6 HRISSOPOLI=20 1018 Vatermont 4, 7 ILIOLOOSTI=20 1016 Yarthmont 17, 19, 24 1017 Flaurmont 2 1018 Felmont 7 KASTELIOS=20 1016 Nuwmont 14; Vatermont 5, 17; Thaumont 1-6, 11, 14-15, 18; Klarmont 20;= Sviftmont 9 1017 Nuwmont 18, 22, 26; Vatermont 9, 12, 14; Thaumont 7, 25; Flaurmont 13,= 26; Felmont 3, 7, 18; Fyrmont 1, 9, 22; Ambyrmont 20; Sviftmont 11, 27 1018 Nuwmont 13, 27; Vatermont 11, 26; Thaumont 11, 22-23; Klarmont 15, 25;= Fyrmont 8 MIVOSIA=20 1015 Kaldmont 13 1016 Nuwmont 12; Vatermont 15; Yarthmont 17, 19, 24; Kaldmont 12 1017 Nuwmont 8, 21, 27; Vatermont 13, 16-18, 24; Thaumont 4, 9, 17, 26; Fla= urmont 7, 21; Yarthmont 1; Felmont 11, 23, 26; Fyrmont 2-3, 15 1018 Flaurmont 18; Yarthmont 2, 5, 9; Klarmont 8 POLAKATSIKES=20 1015 Fyrmont 25-28; Ambyrmont 2, 4-6, 16 1016 Nuwmont 12, 27; Vatermont 10, 21; Thaumont 4; Flaurmont 9, 26; Yarthmo= nt 3; Ambyrmont 7 1017 Nuwmont 28; Vatermont 2, 6, 10, 13, 16-18, 24-25, 28; Thaumont 4, 9, 1= 7, 26; Flaurmont 7, 21; Yarthmont 1, 26; Felmont 4, 6, 8, 11, 26; Fyrmont 2= -4, 13, 15 1018 Vatermont 4, 21; Felmont 11; Eirmont 22 THYATIAN HINTERLANDS=20 1014 Felmont 2, 4 1016 Felmont 18, 20, 25; Ambyrmont 22; Sviftmont 16-17, 24; Eirmont 9, 14 1017 Nuwmont 11; Vatermont 4, 27; Thaumont 6; Flaurmont 13, 15; Yarthmont 1= 6, 27; Klarmont 1, 5; Felmont 6, 8-9, 27; Fyrmont 9, 18, 25; Ambyrmont 9, 1= 6, 19, 27; Sviftmont 1-2, 6, 14, 17, 26 1018 Vatermont 8; Thaumont 3; Flaurmont 12; Klarmont 13; Felmont 23 VANYA'S REST 1015 Klarmont 8-9, 15 1016 Felmont 12, 26, 28; Fyrmont 6, 27; Eirmont 6=20 1017 Thaumont 3, 14; Flaurmont 9; Felmont 18; Fyrmont 3, 16, 18-19, 21; Amb= yrmont 15 1018 Nuwmont 18; Felmont 13; Ambyrmont 2 NORWOLD=20 1014 Nuwmont 14, 22 1016 Felmont 10; Fyrmont 1, 8-9, 16-17, 28; Ambyrmont 1, 13, 16; Sviftmont = 3, 25; Eirmont 4, 15, 18-19, 25; Kaldmont 7, 12, 15, 26 1017 Thaumont 20 1018 Vatermont 12, 18; Flaurmont 20; Fyrmont 14; Eirmont 17, 24; Kaldmont 6 ALPHA 1016 Felmont 24; Fyrmont 7; Ambyrmont 2, 6, 11, 14-15, 17, 21, 23, 28; Svif= tmont 1, 11, 14; Kaldmont 15 1017 Felmont 23 1018 Nuwmont 4, 28; Vatermont 1; Yarthmont 8, 11, 24; Klarmont 6, 22; Eirmo= nt 10 ARCADIA 1016 Sviftmont 6 CANIUM 1018 Flaurmont 7, 18; Yarthmont 7, 13; Klarmont 22, 28 CHITINE 1016 Ambyrmont 18, 25; Sviftmont 5, 13, 19; Eirmont 13 DAG 1018 Felmont 4; Ambyrmont 2, 23 DENAGOTH 1015 Vatermont 13; Thaumont 13; Flaurmont 19; Felmont 1, 5, 8-9, 13; Fyrmon= t 1, 10, 22; Ambyrmont 1, 22; Sviftmont 3, 21, 28; Eirmont 3, 5, 9, 17, 21,= 26; Kaldmont 2 1016 Nuwmont 1, 3, 6, 13, 20, 24-25; Vatermont 7, 15, 28; Thaumont 2, 5, 8,= 10, 14, 19-20; Flaurmont 1, 6, 10, 20, 22-23, 25, 27; Yarthmont 3, 5, 10, = 13, 18, 25; Klarmont 18; Ambyrmont 20, 27; Sviftmont 4, 16-17; Eirmont 9, 1= 2 1017 Nuwmont 10, 16; Vatermont 2, 14, 28; Thaumont 6, 15, 17, 28; Flaurmont= 15, 20; Yarthmont 12, 14; Klarmont 28; Felmont 3, 7, 10-11, 13-14, 16, 18;= Eirmont 25; Kaldmont 22, 24, 27-28 1018 Nuwmont 1-2, 7; Vatermont 3-4, 8; Thaumont 9, 24; Flaurmont 2; Yarthmo= nt 10, 14, 17, 25; Klarmont 13, 21; Felmont 1, 7; Fyrmont 19; Ambyrmont 6; = Sviftmont 1, 9, 28; Eirmont 9, 27; Kaldmont 5, 18, 27-28 DIKHOFF 1016 Felmont 5-6, 10, 13, 22 1018 Nuwmont 23, 28; Vatermont 27; Thaumont 15; Klarmont 28; Felmont 4, 21;= Fyrmont 11; Ambyrmont 2, 23 DOOL 1018 Vatermont 2; Flaurmont 4; Felmont 4; Ambyrmont 2, 23 DRAGONARD 1016 Fyrmont 20, 23 ERSENBAL 1016 Ambyrmont 9 1018 Thaumont 24; Flaurmont 7, 18; Yarthmont 7 FREE PLAINS 1016 Ambyrmont 12 HELDLAND 1015 Flaurmont 20; Klarmont 5, 10 1016 Flaurmont 19; Felmont 2, 8, 14, 17, 20 1017 Thaumont 12, 26; Felmont 2, 4, 7-8, 10 1018 Thaumont 15, 27; Flaurmont 10, 26; Yarthmont 4, 12; Klarmont 7; Fyrmon= t 12 KAMELOTH 1016 Sviftmont 10, 12 KILDORKAK 1016 Ambyrmont 19 LATELA 1018 Thaumont 19 LEEHA 1018 Nuwmont 19; Flaurmont 10 LITTONIA 1016 Flaurmont 4; Klarmont 6; Fyrmont 3; Sviftmont 12, 14 MOONLAND 1018 Vatermont 26 MORY 1018 Flaurmont 19 NORDALFHEIM / IRONWOOD=20 1015 Nuwmont 8 1016 Vatermont 14; Thaumont 22; Fyrmont 13, 18; Sviftmont 8; Kaldmont 5 1017 Flaurmont 13 1018 Thaumont 3 NORDENHAFEN 1016 Sviftmont 7 1017 Klarmont 10; Felmont 9 1018 Thaumont 9 OCEANSEND 1015 Klarmont 5 1016 Felmont 15; Fyrmont 10, 12-13, 15, 19; Ambyrmont 10 1018 Fyrmont 12 ODINIA 1016 Fyrmont 16, 26; Sviftmont 9, 18, 22, 24 OSSIAN 1016 Flaurmont 21; Ambyrmont 5; Sviftmont 9, 18, 26, 28; Eirmont 1 PANTERIA 1018 Flaurmont 1 SERENITY 1016 Felmont 5-6, 10, 22, 25 1018 Vatermont 27; Thaumont 15; Klarmont 28; Felmont 4; Fyrmont 11; Ambyrmo= nt 2, 23 SIEGERIA 1016 Felmont 26; Sviftmont 14, 19 SONNENFELD 1016 Felmont 13, 22 1018 Nuwmont 28; Felmont 21; Ambyrmont 2, 23 STAMTRAL 1018 Flaurmont 25; Klarmont 27; Felmont 6; Fyrmont 22; Eirmont 17 SWORDCOAST 1016 Felmont 22, 25 1018 Yarthmont 13; Felmont 4; Ambyrmont 2, 23 TWO LAKES VALE 1017 Fyrmont 12, 15, 17; Ambyrmont 4, 12, 20, 26; Sviftmont 1, 10 1018 Nuwmont 1, 3; Vatermont 10; Flaurmont 21; Yarthmont 13-14 VYOLSTAGRAD 1018 Flaurmont 25; Yarthmont 18; Klarmont 12, 27; Felmont 6; Sviftmont 10; = Eirmont 28; Kaldmont 28 WYRMHART=20 1016 Felmont 27; Kaldmont 7 WYRMSTEETH / HOPELAND 1016 Fyrmont 6, 25; Ambyrmont 26; Sviftmont 20; Eirmont 18-19, 25; Kaldmont= 7 SAVAGE COAST=20 1014 Flaurmont 14; Yarthmont 18, 24; Klarmont 7; Fyrmont 12-13; Eirmont 9, = 15; Kaldmont 15 1015 Thaumont 16, 26; Klarmont 20; Fyrmont 12; Sviftmont 12 1016 Nuwmont 9; Vatermont 17; Thaumont 6, 21; Yarthmont 26 1017 Flaurmont 8; Klarmont 14; Sviftmont 7 ALMARR=D3N=20 1015 Ambyrmont 18, 27=20 1016 Thaumont 28; Kaldmont 9 1017 Thaumont 2; Flaurmont 2, 16; Ambyrmont 1 ATOR 1018 Nuwmont 17 BELLAYNE=20 1016 Vatermont 2; Flaurmont 17, 22; Yarthmont 3; Klarmont 17; Fyrmont 7; Am= byrmont 1, 12; Sviftmont 4, 16 1017 Nuwmont 5, 7, 28; Vatermont 11, 15, 23; Thaumont 4, 8, 19; Flaurmont 1= -2, 9, 24; Yarthmont 6, 21, 25; Klarmont 2, 7, 15, 27; Felmont 3, 8, 11, 19= , 23; Fyrmont 2, 18, 27; Ambyrmont 17, 26; Sviftmont 5, 12, 14-15, 20, 27; = Eirmont 25, 28; Kaldmont 2, 4, 28 CIMARRON COUNTY=20 1015 Yarthmont 11; Ambyrmont 22, 24 1016 Fyrmont 22; Kaldmont 14 1017 Yarthmont 14 DUNWICK 1016 Kaldmont 10, 12, 14, 22,28 EUSDRIA 1014 Vatermont 5, 25; Thaumont 3; Flaurmont 28; Yarthmont 7; Klarmont 3; Fe= lmont 9 1015 Thaumont 3, 27 1016 Kaldmont 12 GARGO=D1A=20 1014 Sviftmont 25 1015 Nuwmont 8; Klarmont 18 1016 Kaldmont 1, 4 1017 Vatermont 5; Thaumont 2; Flaurmont 3; Felmont 8, 20 GRANDE CARRASCAL 1015 Ambyrmont 18; Eirmont 7 1016 Flaurmont 4; Yarthmont 16; Klarmont 25; Fyrmont 9, 21-22; Ambyrmont 17= ; Sviftmont 9; Kaldmont 14 GUADALANTE=20 1017 Yarthmont 14; Felmont 8 HOJAH 1014 Yarthmont 24; Fyrmont 12 1015 Sviftmont 12 1016 Yarthmont 26 NARVAEZ =20 1015 Nuwmont 8; Klarmont 9, 22; Eirmont 1 1016 Felmont 1; Sviftmont 22; Kaldmont 1, 4 1017 Thaumont 4, 11; Yarthmont 2; Felmont 8, 20 NOUVELLE-RENARDIE=20 1018 Nuwmont 17; Flaurmont 3; Felmont 19; Ambyrmont 6; Eirmont 8 NOVA SVOGA 1015 Yarthmont 15; Kaldmont 21 1016 Flaurmont 27 1017 Vatermont 28; Thaumont 5 RENARDY 1015 Felmont 9 1016 Vatermont 3; Kaldmont 12 1017 Felmont 3 ROBRENN 1014 Flaurmont 20 SARAG=D3N 1015 Eirmont 17=20 1016 Nuwmont 27; Kaldmont 9 1017 Thaumont 2; Yarthmont 2, 14, 27; Felmont 8, 11, 20, 22 SAVAGE BARONIES 1015 Thaumont 12; Flaurmont 21; Klarmont 18 SLAGOVICH=20 1014 Yarthmont 18; Klarmont 7; Fyrmont 12 1015 Vatermont 13; Felmont 9; Fyrmont 20; Kaldmont 24 1016 Fyrmont 24; Eirmont 9 1017 Sviftmont 13; Eirmont 5 TEXEIRAS 1015 Felmont 3 1017 Yarthmont 10 TORREON 1015 Vatermont 2, 7, 10; Klarmont 12, 22; Felmont 13; Fyrmont 7; Eirmont 1 1016 Yarthmont 8; Felmont 1 1017 Flaurmont 20; Yarthmont 12, 17, 27; Fyrmont 1; Eirmont 12 VILAVERDE 1017 Yarthmont 10; Klarmont 7 YAVDLOM =20 1015 Nuwmont 9 1017 Yarthmont 13; Klarmont 8 ZAGORA 1015 Yarthmont 15 ZVORNIK 1014 Thaumont 12; Yarthmont 18; Klarmont 7; Fyrmont 12 WESTERN BRUN=20 1017 Ambyrmont 6 1018 Yarthmont 16 AZARDJIAN 1016 Sviftmont 21 BYLOT HILLS=20 1016 Eirmont 12; Kaldmont 17 1017 Nuwmont 23; Flaurmont 17 BRASOV =20 1017 Klarmont 18 1018 Nuwmont 7, 11, 19; Vatermont 13 CHEVALLE=20 1017 Klarmont 17-18, 23 DOUZBAKJIAN 1017 Nuwmont 6; Thaumont 1; Flaurmont 11; Yarthmont 1; Felmont 6; Fyrmont 1= 9 1018 Eirmont 11 DVINZINIA 1016 Felmont 8; Sviftmont 21 GOMBAR 1015 Flaurmont 25; Felmont 1; Sviftmont 13 GOURNZEE=20 1017 Yarthmont 1, 3, 21; Klarmont 22; Felmont 5, 8, 14; Fyrmont 4 HULE=20 1015 Nuwmont 9; Klarmont 5, 9, 11; Felmont 8 1016 Thaumont 16, 28; Flaurmont 3, 5, 7; Yarthmont 11, 23, 25; Klarmont 2, = 22; Felmont 13, 24; Fyrmont 14-15; Ambyrmont 13, 26; Sviftmont 2, 9; Eirmon= t 3, 6, 15; Kaldmont 6, 17 1017 Nuwmont 1, 15, 26; Vatermont 10, 28; Thaumont 12; Flaurmont 2, 15; Fyr= mont 16; Sviftmont 1, 11, 15, 22; Eirmont 17; Kaldmont 8, 23 1018 Vatermont 6 KLAGORST=20 1017 Nuwmont 11, 21; Yarthmont 21-22, 28; Klarmont 1, 12-13, 15, 20, 22-23,= 25; Felmont 2, 5, 8, 14-15; Fyrmont 7; Ambyrmont 27; Sviftmont 1 1018 Thaumont 9; Flaurmont 27; Yarthmont 15 STYGIA=20 1017 Yarthmont 1, 3, 21; Klarmont 20; Eirmont 13 SUMA'A=20 1015 Nuwmont 2, 23, 27; Vatermont 2; Thaumont 8, 22; Flaurmont 9, 11; Felmo= nt 17; Ambyrmont 13; Kaldmont 18, 28 THE WHITE ORCS OF THE NORTH=20 1017 Nuwmont 6 1018 Eirmont 11 YEZCHAMENID EMPIRE=20 1018 Ambyrmont 20; Sviftmont 6 ZUYEVO=20 1016 Felmont 23 1017 Vatermont 13; Thaumont 1; Flaurmont 11, 17; Yarthmont 1; Felmont 6; Fy= rmont 19; Ambyrmont 26; Sviftmont 5, 11, 27; Eirmont 3 1018 Thaumont 14; Flaurmont 4; Fyrmont 1; Eirmont 20 SKOTHAR=20 ESTERHOLD and DRAEH 1014 Thaumont 6, 20, 25; Flaurmont 7, 18; Yarthmont 11, 23 1015 Nuwmont 14; Yarthmont 5, 9; Felmont 26; Fyrmont 3, 7, 25; Ambyrmont 4;= Sviftmont 5; Eirmont 3, 22 1016 Vatermont 1; Flaurmont 1, 3; Felmont 13; Fyrmont 18, 23; Ambyrmont 3-4= , 14; Kaldmont 13 1017 Vatermont 7, 11; Thaumont 26; Flaurmont 14; Yarthmont 17, 21, 26; Klar= mont 2, 15; Felmont 16, 21, 25; Fyrmont 12, 26; Ambyrmont 23; Sviftmont 2; = Eirmont 17; Kaldmont 13 1018 Nuwmont 14, 20, 25-26; Vatermont 28; Thaumont 2-3, 9, 12-13, 22, 26; F= laurmont 2, 4, 21, 26; Yarthmont 1, 6, 15, 18, 24, 27; Klarmont 4, 7-8, 10,= 17, 26; Felmont 4, 8, 16, 21; Fyrmont 2, 7, 12, 15-16, 23, 26; Ambyrmont 1= , 9-10, 12, 14, 22, 27; Sviftmont 2, 6, 12-13, 15, 27; Eirmont 1, 3, 5-7, 1= 6, 25; Kaldmont 3, 10, 14 LLEWERYN=20 1018 Thaumont 16, 19 MINAEA=20 1017 Klarmont 27; Fyrmont 15 1018 Nuwmont 1, 4; Vatermont 21, 26; Thaumont 2; Flaurmont 1; Yarthmont 13;= Fyrmont 24; Ambyrmont 9; Kaldmont 17, 26 TANGOR=20 1018 Vatermont 28; Thaumont 4-5, 8; Ambyrmont 16 THONIA=20 1017 Sviftmont 10 HOLLOW WORLD 1015 Eirmont 27; Kaldmont 6, 23=20 1016 Nuwmont 1 1017 Vatermont 2, 15; Thaumont 10-11; Flaurmont 14, 21; Yarthmont 4; Ambyrm= ont 1, 4, 24; Eirmont 8; Kaldmont 28 1018 Yarthmont 5; Sviftmont 7, 16 AZCANS =20 1014 Thaumont 5 1015 Nuwmont 8; Thaumont 11; Flaurmont 10; Yarthmont 10; Klarmont 4; Felmon= t 7, 16, 21-22, 27; Fyrmont 2, 6, 11, 17, 21; Ambyrmont 9, 12, 20, 23; Svif= tmont 7, 19, 26; Eirmont 6, 14; Kaldmont 1, 28 1016 Nuwmont 1, 6, 23; Vatermont 12; Thaumont 10; Yarthmont 19; Klarmont 7,= 25; Felmont 1, 20-21; Fyrmont 12; Ambyrmont 1, 3, 14, 28; Sviftmont 13, 19= , 24; Eirmont 2; Kaldmont 3-4, 6, 28 1017 Vatermont 8; Flaurmont 17; Felmont 6, 11; Fyrmont 18; Ambyrmont 24; Sv= iftmont 7; Kaldmont 13-14, 27-28 1018 Vatermont 11; Felmont 1 BEASTMEN=20 1015 Sviftmont 6, 9, 13 GENTLE FOLK 1015 Klarmont 24; Felmont 22; Ambyrmont 8, 12, 20; Eirmont 18; Kaldmont 14= =20 1016 Flaurmont 8; Sviftmont 12 ICEVALE =20 1016 Felmont 28; Sviftmont 1 JENNITES 1015 Klarmont 17=20 KOGOLOR=20 1015 Flaurmont 1 KRUGEL HORDE=20 1015 Thaumont 23 1016 Sviftmont 1, 25 KUBITT VALLEY=20 1015 Yarthmont 1; Ambyrmont 10 1016 Eirmont 8; Kaldmont 23 MAKAI ISLANDS=20 1017 Ambyrmont 27 MALPHEGGI LIZARD MEN=20 1015 Sviftmont 19 MERRY PIRATE SEAS=20 1014 Kaldmont 4 1015 Ambyrmont 12 1017 Nuwmont 12; Vatermont 4, 7, 11-14, 17, 23; Thaumont 24-25; Flaurmont 7= , 17; Yarthmont 4, 7; Klarmont 1, 6, 9, 13-15, 18, 23; Felmont 6; Fyrmont 1= 5, 20; Ambyrmont 20, 27; Sviftmont 9; Eirmont 1; Kaldmont 12 1018 Nuwmont 10, 20; Vatermont 11; Thaumont 12; Flaurmont 4; Yarthmont 1-3,= 13-14, 19; Klarmont 16-17, 28; Felmont 3, 7; Fyrmont 15, 26; Ambyrmont 5, = 8, 10-12, 15, 17-18, 21, 24, 26; Sviftmont 2, 16, 22; Eirmont 5, 28 MILENIA=20 1014 Fyrmont 8; Kaldmont 4 1015 Ambyrmont 24 1016 Klarmont 6; Felmont 13, 22; Fyrmont 3, 10, 24; Ambyrmont 5, 9 1017 Nuwmont 3; Thaumont 16; Flaurmont 4; Yarthmont 17; Klarmont 5, 12-13; = Sviftmont 6, 9; Eirmont 2, 12; Kaldmont 4, 11, 13, 26 1018 Nuwmont 1, 20; Thaumont 4-5; Flaurmont 3, 8-9, 26; Yarthmont 2, 17; Fy= rmont 22; Kaldmont 13 NEATHAR 1014 Sviftmont 10, 14, 28; Eirmont 14 1015 Thaumont 3, 17; Flaurmont 8; Klarmont 2, 11; Eirmont 14=20 1016 Sviftmont 1 1017 Nuwmont 14; Vatermont 4, 22; Flaurmont 2; Yarthmont 6; Felmont 6; Fyrm= ont 13; Eirmont 14 NEATHARM=20 1014 Sviftmont 10, 20, 28; Eirmont 14, 16 1015 Nuwmont 6, 9, 12, 25; Vatermont 3, 9, 15, 17, 19-21; Thaumont 27; Yart= hmont 4; Klarmont 16, 21; Fyrmont 5, 14, 27; Sviftmont 3; Eirmont 14-15 1016 Nuwmont 13-14; Flaurmont 28; Yarthmont 1; Klarmont 20; Fyrmont 8; Kald= mont 15 1017 Nuwmont 8; Ambyrmont 1; Sviftmont 14, 27 NITHIA=20 1014 Felmont 16, 28; Fyrmont 8, 17 1015 Nuwmont 17; Vatermont 7, 20, 27; Thaumont 3; Klarmont 3, 10; Felmont 2= 0; Ambyrmont 19; Kaldmont 15, 18-19 1016 Nuwmont 2; Vatermont 2, 7, 23; Thaumont 1, 3, 6, 9, 11, 16, 19, 22-24;= Yarthmont 5; Ambyrmont 12; Sviftmont 12, 22; Kaldmont 5 1017 Nuwmont 4, 10; Vatermont 1-2, 18; Thaumont 20; Flaurmont 13, 18, 23-24= , 26; Yarthmont 15; Felmont 16; Fyrmont 3-4; Sviftmont 6 1018 Nuwmont 1; Vatermont 22; Flaurmont 27; Yarthmont 18; Fyrmont 5; Sviftm= ont 1; Eirmont 10; Kaldmont 11 SCHATTENALFEN=20 1014 Nuwmont 15; Thaumont 5; Yarthmont 7 1015 Nuwmont 8; Vatermont 12-13, 17; Flaurmont 10, 14; Fyrmont 11; Eirmont = 12, 24; Kaldmont 2-3, 8, 10-12, 14, 26, 28 1016 Nuwmont 1 1017 Vatermont 8; Kaldmont 13, 27-28 1018 Felmont 1 SELHOMARR=20 1016 Ambyrmont 12 1017 Vatermont 17-18, 24-25; Thaumont 1, 3-4, 6, 10 1018 Flaurmont 4 SHAHJAPUR=20 1014 Nuwmont 10, 12-13, 20, 26; Vatermont 2, 15, 18, 21, 23, 28 TANAGORO=20 1017 Nuwmont 22; Flaurmont 15; Yarthmont 9-10; Klarmont 3; Fyrmont 5 TRALDAR=20 1015 Vatermont 17; Thaumont 11; Ambyrmont 9; Eirmont 6, 12; Kaldmont 8 1017 Thaumont 24 FLOATING CONTINENT OF ALPHATIA=20 ALPHATIA=20 1015 Sviftmont 17 1016 Vatermont 25-26; Thaumont 15, 27; Felmont 28; Sviftmont 6; Kaldmont 15 1017 Nuwmont 3, 23; Vatermont 24; Thaumont 3-4, 8, 21, 25, 27; Yarthmont 1,= 3, 17; Klarmont 15; Felmont 8; Fyrmont 21; Ambyrmont 1-2, 5, 16, 22; Svift= mont 6; Kaldmont 5-6 1018 Vatermont 3, 27; Flaurmont 8; Yarthmont 6, 12; Sviftmont 2, 11; Eirmon= t 14, 18; Kaldmont 6, 20 ALPHAS'AR /JAFILIA=20 1014 Eirmont 16 1015 Nuwmont 26; Yarthmont 1; Klarmont 19; Felmont 22; Ambyrmont 10; Sviftm= ont 21, 26; Eirmont 15, 18, 20; Kaldmont 14, 26-27 1016 Nuwmont 1-4, 28; Yarthmont 24; Ambyrmont 2 1017 Eirmont 5 1018 Nuwmont 21; Yarthmont 2; Klarmont 19, 21-22, 25, 27 AMBUR=20 1016 Flaurmont 22 1017 Nuwmont 18; Ambyrmont 27 1018 Nuwmont 11; Vatermont 11; Flaurmont 4; Klarmont 1; Felmont 7; Ambyrmon= t 14; Sviftmont 17, 23; Eirmont 5 ARKAN=20 1016 Kaldmont 13 1017 Thaumont 2; Yarthmont 1; Felmont 16; Fyrmont 25; Ambyrmont 4; Sviftmon= t 1, 4, 7, 11, 19; Eirmont 12; Kaldmont 15, 17, 20, 24, 26, 28 1018 Nuwmont 1, 3, 8, 13; Vatermont 3, 11, 20; Thaumont 2, 24; Flaurmont 4,= 8, 27; Yarthmont 1, 14, 23, 27; Klarmont 1, 4, 6, 12, 21, 24; Felmont 3, 7= , 15, 20, 25; Fyrmont 8, 10; Ambyrmont 4, 14; Sviftmont 6, 23-28; Eirmont 1= , 5; Kaldmont 2, 6, 14 AROGANSA=20 1016 Thaumont 17; Yarthmont 12; Klarmont 3; Fyrmont 22; Ambyrmont 17 1017 Thaumont 2, 14; Fyrmont 20; Ambyrmont 2, 11, 18, 23; Sviftmont 9; Eirm= ont 26; Kaldmont 11, 15, 20 1018 Nuwmont 8, 20; Vatermont 5; Thaumont 23, 28; Flaurmont 19; Yarthmont 4= , 15; Felmont 28; Fyrmont 17; Ambyrmont 12; Sviftmont 4 BETTELLYN=20 1016 Flaurmont 11=20 1017 Flaurmont 8; Felmont 1, 14; Ambyrmont 7; Sviftmont 7, 11, 13, 17, 21, = 24; Eirmont 2, 20 BLACKHEART=20 1016 Nuwmont 25 1017 Flaurmont 19; Kaldmont 13 EADRIN=20 1017 Ambyrmont 11, 18; Sviftmont 4; Eirmont 15, 26; Kaldmont 11, 20 1018 Nuwmont 8, 20; Vatermont 5, 16; Thaumont 23, 28; Flaurmont 19; Felmont= 28 FORESTHOME =20 1017 Vatermont 14, 19; Ambyrmont 5, 16; Sviftmont 1, 7, 10-11, 14; Eirmont = 2, 12, 17; Kaldmont 2, 5, 17, 19, 24, 26-28 1018 Nuwmont 1, 3, 8, 12; Vatermont 5, 9, 20; Thaumont 3, 24, 27; Flaurmont= 2, 4, 8-9, 11, 14, 17, 22, 27-28; Yarthmont 1, 3, 14; Felmont 18, 27; Amby= rmont 6; Kaldmont 5, 10, 12, 16, 26 FRISLAND =20 1017 Yarthmont 27; Felmont 8, 22; Fyrmont 3, 13 1018 Klarmont 24; Ambyrmont 2 HAVEN =20 1016 Klarmont 18; Felmont 13=20 1017 Flaurmont 4, 9; Kaldmont 10-12, 14, 17 1018 Fyrmont 5, 19; Ambyrmont 9, 22 LIMN =20 1016 Thaumont 11 1017 Flaurmont 17 1018 Nuwmont 19, 23; Yarthmont 4, 16-17, 20; Felmont 8 RANDEL =20 1016 Vatermont 4; Flaurmont 11; Klarmont 9; Sviftmont 4 1017 Vatermont 6, 12; Thaumont 5; Flaurmont 8; Yarthmont 1, 27; Klarmont 10= , 21; Fyrmont 1, 7-8; Ambyrmont 14; Sviftmont 1, 4, 7, 11, 13, 17, 21, 24; = Eirmont 2, 20; Kaldmont 6 1018 Nuwmont 19; Vatermont 16; Thaumont 10 SHIYE-LAWR =20 1016 Vatermont 19 STONEWALL =20 1017 Nuwmont 3, 14, 23; Vatermont 5; Thaumont 2, 4; Flaurmont 17; Yarthmont= 9, 16, 27; Klarmont 11; Felmont 8, 22; Fyrmont 3, 13, 25; Ambyrmont 4, 16;= Sviftmont 1, 19; Eirmont 12; Kaldmont 4, 15, 17, 20, 24, 26, 28 1018 Nuwmont 1, 3, 8, 13, 19, 23; Vatermont 3, 9-11, 20; Thaumont 2, 24; Fl= aurmont 4, 16; Yarthmont 1, 9, 14, 16, 23, 27; Klarmont 1, 6, 21, 24; Felmo= nt 15, 25; Fyrmont 8, 19; Ambyrmont 2, 9, 22; Sviftmont 6, 17, 23; Eirmont = 1, 27; Kaldmont 2 STOUTFELLOW =20 1016 Fyrmont 15; Kaldmont 3=20 1017 Yarthmont 9, 16; Kaldmont 4, 10-11, 17 1018 Vatermont 8; Thaumont 6; Eirmont 14, 27 THERANDEROL =20 1016 Nuwmont 7; Eirmont 24 1017 Sviftmont 4, 17, 21; Eirmont 5, 15, 18; Kaldmont 13, 18, 22 1018 Nuwmont 19; Thaumont 7; Flaurmont 7, 28; Eirmont 25 VERTILOCH =20 1018 Thaumont 4; Sviftmont 15 .............................................................. L=E4het=E4 oikeat joulukortit omalla kuvallasi! Maikkarin netiss=E4. http://www.mtv3.fi/postikortit/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:09:17 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Havard=20Faanes?= Subject: Re: Traldar & Co. --- la Volpe skrev: > Personally I never liked the idea that the Traldar > were Nithians, nor that the > Thyatians/Kerendans/Hattians were Antalians. > In "A Complete Guide to Human Ethnography", that can > be found on Shawn's (although I am slowly revising > it), I suggested the following situation: [Snip] So the Traldar were related to the Antalians? From what I remember from Canon, it only says that the Traldar were a culture living on the border of Nithia and eventually settled in "Karameikos". Their origins, whether Antalian or Neathar doesn't matter much, both would fit. OTOH, They were probably culturally, if not genetically, heavily influenced by the Nithians by the time they entered "Karameikos". Your Etnography guide makes alot of sense though, but its so massive! :) > Just my 2 lire (now worthless). 2 lire weren't really worth much before Euro-time either though, were they? :) Håvard ______________________________________________________ Få den nye Yahoo! Messenger på http://no.messenger.yahoo.com/ Nye ikoner og bakgrunner, webkamera med superkvalitet og dobbelt så morsom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:37:41 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?la=20Volpe?= Subject: Nithians, Traldar & Antalians Basically my etnographic work is based on the real world etnography. The Neathar are the Indoeuropeans, so Antalians are descended from the Neathar. However, I put the Skandaharians between the two...so we basically have a Neathar group that evolves into Skandaharians, and Skandaharians that evolve into several other groups, among whom are 1) the Antalians (north of all the other groups - the Antalians mix with the Valemen, and develope the blue eyes and blonde hair feature, just like the Scandinavians did when the Indoeuropean invaders came and conquered the Ugro-Finn population); 2) the Thantalians (among whom were the Thyatians and Kerendans; equivalent to Latins and other ancient italian populations, that were related to Germans and Scandinavians, as they were the last group that split from each other in RW history according to several scholars); 3) the Trantalians (ancestors of the Traldar and the Doulakki; I devised them as the Mystara counterpart of the ancestors of Greek and Slavic cultures. I cannot find a way to separate these two cultures in Mystara, because it seems that Slavic cultures are direct descendants of the Greek ones! Traladarans and Slag and Boldavians descend from Traldar...so I couldn't separate the two cultures.) Around 1500 BC, the Nithians conquer all of Ylaruam. Traldar (from the Trantalians) are used to colonize Karameikos. They soon lose contact with the motherland - it could be interesting to focus on the way the Nithians controlled their expedition parties, but it probably wasn't a very successful way, as both Traldar and, later, Thyatians escaped control. Around 1000 BC, the Nithians conquer the Northern Reaches. Hattians (from the Antalians) and Thyatians/Kerendans (from the Thantalians) are used to colonize Davania. They soon rebel. Around 800 BC the Milenians build their Empire. It is possible that the Milenians fought with the Thyatians against the Nithians, then the two cultures influenced each other (greek elements in Thyatian culture, like greek elements in latin/roman culture). Later, the Thyatians and their allies (Hattians and Kerendans) were repelled. It would be very interesting to describe the four hundred years of history of Northern Davania. In BC 600 Thyatians &co. leave Davania, reach nowadays Thyatis and begin to conquer the local Doulakki tribes. Further assimilation of greek elements in Thyatian culture. > > Just my 2 lire (now worthless). > 2 lire weren't really worth much before Euro-time > either though, were they? :) > > Håvard Nei, you're right. 8-) But now they're completely worthless. Giulio aka Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ______________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail: 6MB di spazio gratuito, 30MB per i tuoi allegati, l'antivirus, il filtro Anti-spam http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:01:52 -0500 From: Chris Cherrington Subject: Re: Traldar & Co. Nithians were an Oltec/Neathar stock. If they pushed themselves by expanding into other tribes, then reorganized the tribes by enslaving them and forcing them to settle elswhere. We can say the Traladaran are "Nithian" but of Neathar/Antalian stock. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:35:37 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?la=20Volpe?= Subject: Re: Traldar & Co. --- Chris Cherrington ha scritto: > Nithians were an Oltec/Neathar stock. If they > pushed themselves by expanding into other tribes, > then reorganized the tribes by enslaving them and > forcing them to settle elswhere. We can say the > Traladaran are "Nithian" but of Neathar/Antalian > stock. My 2cents on the Nithians is that they developed on the Isle of Dawn, from a Neathar/Oltec mix and then moved to Ylaruam. Traldar simply would NOT be Nithian (IMHO). By the way, Antalians ARE of Neathar ethnicity. Antalians descend from Neathar. Giulio ______________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail: 6MB di spazio gratuito, 30MB per i tuoi allegati, l'antivirus, il filtro Anti-spam http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:27:31 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Havard=20Faanes?= Subject: Re: Traldar & Co. --- la Volpe wrote: > My 2cents on the Nithians is that they developed on > the Isle of Dawn, from a Neathar/Oltec mix and then > moved to Ylaruam. > > Traldar simply would NOT be Nithian (IMHO). That doesn't contradict what Chris just said. Culturally they would still be "Nithian"... IMO that sounds like the best way to reconcile the two theories :) Håvard ______________________________________________________ Få den nye Yahoo! Messenger på http://no.messenger.yahoo.com/ Nye ikoner og bakgrunner, webkamera med superkvalitet og dobbelt så morsom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:37:53 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Havard=20Faanes?= Subject: Re: Nithians, Traldar & Antalians --- la Volpe skrev: > Basically my etnographic work is based on the real > world etnography. The Neathar are the Indoeuropeans, > so Antalians are descended from the Neathar. > > However, I put the Skandaharians between the > two...so > we basically have a Neathar group that evolves into > Skandaharians, and Skandaharians that evolve into > several other groups, among whom are Good thinking! The Skandaharians probably reverted to their original culture when the technology of Blackmoor was lost. Odin probably played a large role in this. > 1) the Antalians (north of all the other groups - > the > Antalians mix with the Valemen, and develope the > blue > eyes and blonde hair feature, just like the > Scandinavians did when the Indoeuropean invaders > came > and conquered the Ugro-Finn population); Ah cool! What did the Valemen look like before that? > 2) the Thantalians (among whom were the Thyatians > and > Kerendans; equivalent to Latins and other ancient > italian populations, that were related to Germans > and > Scandinavians, as they were the last group that > split > from each other in RW history according to several > scholars); I like this change. The whole Thyatians going down to Daviana and coming back just didnt make much sense. > 3) the Trantalians (ancestors of the Traldar and the > Doulakki; I devised them as the Mystara counterpart > of > the ancestors of Greek and Slavic cultures. I cannot > find a way to separate these two cultures in > Mystara, > because it seems that Slavic cultures are direct > descendants of the Greek ones! Traladarans and Slag > and Boldavians descend from Traldar...so I couldn't > separate the two cultures.) Yes, the Traldar are something of a Greco-Slavic culture. I like this, since it means that we can use both RW Slavic and Greek cultures to develope their backgrounds, even though the Milenians are more Greek and the other cultures are more similar to RW slavic ones... > Around 1500 BC, the Nithians conquer all of Ylaruam. > Traldar (from the Trantalians) are used to colonize > Karameikos. They soon lose contact with the > motherland > - it could be interesting to focus on the way the > Nithians controlled their expedition parties, but it > probably wasn't a very successful way, as both > Traldar > and, later, Thyatians escaped control. This does not neccesarily have to be very direct control. Rather they would simply drive these groups into those areas and have some ideas on how to regain control over them later, even though that eventually failed. The Hutaakans may have played some role in disrupting Nithian contact with their colonists aswell.... > Around 800 BC the Milenians build their Empire. It > is > possible that the Milenians fought with the > Thyatians > against the Nithians, then the two cultures > influenced > each other (greek elements in Thyatian culture, like > greek elements in latin/roman culture). Later, the > Thyatians and their allies (Hattians and Kerendans) > were repelled. I like that part! This would definately help explain why these two cultures have so many things in common. > It would be very interesting to describe the four > hundred years of history of Northern Davania. I never got around to reading the Davania Gazetteer, but such a Timeline could provide plenty of ideas for developing cultures in this area (Current and past). > > > Just my 2 lire (now worthless). > > 2 lire weren't really worth much before Euro-time > > either though, were they? :) > Nei, you're right. 8-) > But now they're completely worthless. Hehe, still havent forgotten your norwegian I see! :) Håvard ______________________________________________________ Få den nye Yahoo! Messenger på http://no.messenger.yahoo.com/ Nye ikoner og bakgrunner, webkamera med superkvalitet og dobbelt så morsom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:20:31 EST From: Phillip Godsey Subject: Re: Traldar & Co. Didn't the Nithain culture develop around the River Nithia valley in the year BC2000? there is no mention of them migrating from the Isle of Dawn that I know of but I could be wrong. Also Gaz 1 says that the Traldar were an offshoot of the Nithian people that migrated west at the beginning of Nithia's height in BC 1500. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:45:53 -0500 From: Chris Cherrington Subject: Re: Traldar & Co. > > From: Phillip Godsey > > Didn't the Nithain culture develop around the River Nithia valley in the year > BC2000? there is no mention of them migrating from the Isle of Dawn that I > know of but I could be wrong. Also Gaz 1 says that the Traldar were an offshoot > of the Nithian people that migrated west at the beginning of Nithia's height > in BC 1500. > True and true. Nithia did develope within the River Nithia Valley, but we have gone an extra step by developing their pre-civilization life by giving them a migration. The Traldar are not very Nithian in racial or cultural ways, neither are their offshoots the Milenian. These storylines were ment specifically to ammend the cannon. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:07:01 -0500 From: Chris Cherrington Subject: Re: Traldar & Co. > > From: la Volpe > > My 2cents on the Nithians is that they developed on > the Isle of Dawn, from a Neathar/Oltec mix and then > moved to Ylaruam. > Who is to say that the Nithia River Valley did not extend all the way to the Isle of Dawn? Could most of Nithia be found under the water between Ylari's coast and West Portage? Did the Imortals destroy "greater" Nithia by sinking it between the waves or sundering a huge land mass off the coast and pushing it away from the evil Nithians? ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 25 Nov 2003 to 26 Nov 2003 (#2003-279) ****************************************************************