Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 1 Feb 2003 to 2 Feb 2003 (#2003-34) From: Automatic digest processor Date: 03/02/2003, 19:00 To: Recipients of MYSTARA-L digests Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 5 messages totalling 373 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Repeated request for ESD maps (2) 2. More thoughts on X10 3. Houses of Intrigue: Perspectives 4. Houses of Intrigue: New Leadership ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 01:55:12 -0600 From: George Hrabovsky Subject: Re: Repeated request for ESD maps That's Ierendi. George ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stone Marshall=20 To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM=20 Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 1:21 AM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Repeated request for ESD maps >How can I even TRUST you now, after you say that some files have=20 >been=20 >updated while they have NOT?=20 >=20 >Federico Kaftal=20 They can not even get the word Irendi right. The link to the corrected = Kingdom of Irendi reads The Kingdom of Ierene !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean, typos can be forgiven but lets have some class. This is = Mystara we are talking about here (hehe) I take my gameworld seriously. Multizar = the Mage -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. = ******************************************************************** The = Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The = Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send = email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of = the message.=20 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 09:30:11 -0200 From: JJJ Subject: Re: More thoughts on X10 There are two main timelines for X10. In one it could occur during 1005-6 AC (WotI); althogh later canon state it being in 1200 AC. Anyway: in any land past 1008 AC, Canolbarth is no more, and the Shadow Elves rule. What would their position be as for the Master? And their forces? What would they ask from Pcs Darokinians representatives to join their cause? Also Thar is settled (more or less) in the Northern Reaches by AC 1011 and up. Would Kol help, he being an Prince of Glatri? Thar's legion could devastate the lands after the Master's attack, or would he accept to once again became someone elses lackey? X10 is excellent, but as it was made so earlier than everything else, many things seen out of phase! The Empire of Thyatia in any of the aforementioned times is not as great as it was, for one thing. IMO it is important to think about the most normally used timelines possibilities (PWAs times 1010 and up), as they are very commun ground to many a group. So many questions....... :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 12:38:05 -0600 From: Stone Marshall Subject: Re: Repeated request for ESD maps


>That's Ierendi.

See!!! Thats exactly what I am talking about....typos are expected but someone should do the homework before making a webpage. (hehe) I am going back to typo school now
 
                                                                   Multizar the Sheepish Mage


MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 13:15:47 -0800 From: Darth Darknerd Subject: Houses of Intrigue: Perspectives Hi. As I was running Veiled Society (D&D3e), I notice there is a sort of classic vagueness about why the houses dislike each other, both in the module and also in the Gazetteers. Thus I came up with the following ideas (mentioned below). I was trying to have a redeeming point and also fallacy about each house, so that players can find points that they like or dislike about each house. HOUSE VORLOI ------------------------------------------------------ Opinions about Tornescu 1. They always flaunt their money 2. They are both pompus and arrogant. 3. They think momeny will solve everything. 4. These are the type of people that forced us out of Traladara in the first place. 5. Their little exclusive society of elitist have no concern for anyone but themselves. 6. Have little loyalty or concern for the people or the state. 7. They think they can buy anything or anyone. Opinions about Radu 1. They try to force us out of the market when we refuse to play their game. 2. They want a complete monopoly on trade. 3. They want to force us to pay fealty to them to operate in Specularum and do a honest business. 4. Suspect they are corrupt and use underhanded ways to assert their power. Reflection 1. We work hard to get to where we are today. 2. We want to work with the Duke build this kingdom, which will improve the lives of everyone. 3. A successful enterprise will help the nation, and help the people. 4. Whether a man is Traladaran or Thyatian is unimportant. A man is measured by his own merit and honor in his word. HOUSE RADU ------------------------------------------------------ Opinions about Tornescu 1. They are sell outs to the Duke, and will betray anyone to keep their precious power. 2. They care only for themselves. 3. Their elistist cadre see everyone outside their group as meek servants to do their bidding. 4. They exploit the people at any chance without remorse. 5. They live plush lives while people suffer. 6. They sabotage our honest efforts through their elitists connections. Opinions about Vorloi 1. They use their imperial connections to steal our business that we worked so hard to achieve. 2. They steal our clients and contacts through underhanded means. 3. Sabotaged ohter trade routes in remote ports through their royal connections or through underhanded means. 4. They assert themselves in the court at the expense of other Traldaran families. 5. Another Thyatian menace that pretends to be with the people and pretends to be Traladaran. Reflection 1. We had to work hard, fighting our way to the top in order to get to where we are. Our success was not handed on a silver platter. 2. We are one the of the last remaining houses that concern themselves with the welfare of the people. 3. We oppose Duke's efforts to rob Traladarans of their land through appointed rober Barons. HOUSE TORNESCU ------------------------------------------------------ Opinions about Vorloi 1. They use underhanded meants to undermine our influence in the court. 2. They try to steal freinds and contacts through their influence with the king and bribery through business oppotunties and concessions. 3. These pretenders have little concern for the people except their thyatian buddies. Opinions about Radu 1. This family placed themselves in power through thuggish means through extortion, violence, and bribery. 2. Lost many good contacts and friends through ealier struggles. 3. Several assassinations are suspected to be linked to Radu. 4. Excessive wealth doesn't represent civility. A monkey in a dress is still a monkey. 5. The Radu cannot buy their way into nobility. Reflection 1. One of the last true houses that can restore Traldaran power and hope. 2. We try to help the peasants have a better life. 3. Don't support the Duke's efforts to build a kingdom on the backs of Traladarans. 4. We have to do what is necessary to survive and await the eventual day Traladarans can achieve The Golden Dream. 5. Only attempt frutive goals, not blind dreams with no chance of success. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 14:12:10 -0800 From: Darth Darknerd Subject: Houses of Intrigue: New Leadership Hi. I wanted to look into NPCs personalities of Cartha Radu (brother of Anton) and Boris Tornescu (uncle of Aleksander). Both want to lead the family into a new era of success, but in a different direction than the current leadership. They both see the leaders as being too patient or soft, and they want to take a more agressive stance. If both leaders survive, they hope to start the infamous Shadow Society, an organization more ruthless than the Veiled Society could ever aspire to become. CARTHA RADU ------------------------------------------------------ "The time for action is at hand. The time for old rivalries must die in order to restore Traladaran power. We must stop at nothing to restore the Traladaran New Order." Cartha Radu is utterly ruthless, a cold hearted killer with a dangerous patriotic zeal for the Traladaran plight. He is an intelligent plotter, but is overcome with emotions to the point of being overzelous. He will eliminate anyone the gets in his way, including other Traladaran nobles, something his brother was not willing to do, as this would have drawn attention to the clan. Timeline/Plots Pre-Anton Death - Cartha will stop at nothing to usurp his brother's power, even if it means killing Anton himself. He can eventually succeed, unless the party intervines. [Power Shift] - Cartha will try to control the Veiled Society for his own purposes, perhaps forming another Veiled Society loyal to him. [Split factions in Veiled Society] Post-Anton Death - If Boris gains power, Cartha will try to ally with him and form new Veiled Society with the combined funds of both Tornescu and Radu. [Shadow Society] - If Boris dies or does not gain power, Cartha will use the Veiled Society in bolder attempts, and eventually will be exposed. [Death of Radu] Post-Cartha Death - If Cartha dies, or gets imprisoned, Anton will consolidate the power of Veiled Society and become an even greater menace, and even more impossible to detect. Anton will bolster the power of the Veiled Soeciety with more powerful magic and skilled agents (rogues, fighters, wizards, pscions, clerics) [More powerful Veiled Society] - Anton might even help remove Aleksander, unless party intervines, to push Boris into power. Anton knows that Boris will lead the house to self-destruction to his delight. [Death of Tornescu] BORIS TORNESCU ------------------------------------------------------ "It is time for new leadership for the Tornescu family as wishful thinking or leadership from dimwits has not yielded anything frutive. The Tornescu need to be more bold and should not shy away from more agressive tactics. "The Duke's (King's) days are at an end. No longer shall we have to live under the tyranny of Thyatians." Boris is utterly ruthless that is obsessed to assert the power of his family at any means, including allying with long standing enemies. He wants to see the downfall of the royal family and other Thyatians, and will stop at nothing to see that happen. Timeline/Plots Pre-Death of Aleksander - If Cartha Radu perishes, Boris will continue to poison Aleksander, which will eventually succeed unless the player's intervine. [Power Shift] - If Cartha Radu lives, Cartha could arrange to have Aleksander eliminated with certain approval from Boris. This naturally bolsters Cartha's standing in the Radu family. Boris become the new leader. [Power Shift] Post-Death of Aleksander - If Cartha Radu perishes, Boris will attempt a coup, which will have the same disasterous results as the Marilenev rebellian. [Death of Tornescu] - If Cartha Radu lives, Boris will form an alliance, and build a new secret organization. He will be pacified to see some results towards the demise of Thyatian power. [Shadow Society] SHADOW SOCIETY ------------------------------------------------------ The Shadow Society is a very secret society modeled after the original Veiled Society. It is an organization with resources pooled from both resources of both Radu and Tornescu families. The headquarters are located beneath the Duke's Park in a hidden labyrinth. The Shadow Society maintains an alliance with the Circle of Nine, a powerful group of sorcerer goblins (actually pscions), that are the secret puppeteers of a goblin clan. The goblin clan has many powerful warriors and leaders, and exerts control over a militant hobgoblin tribe that operates nearby. They also maintain control over a small kolbold band that are used to design traps and defenses for the whole clan, including the Shadow Society. The Shadow Society employs the wizards, and has some agents in the School of Magic. Agents of the organization are sometimes sent faraway for training in other skills, including assassination and wizardly training. An evil villianous NPC party also goes out on special missions to do special missions for the Shadow Society. They NPC party, nicknamed "Shadow Call" goes on more noble missions for the King, Churches, Ambassadors, and other nobles to gain their trust. They are known to get results, but few understand the secret means in how this party gets such results quickly. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 1 Feb 2003 to 2 Feb 2003 (#2003-34) *************************************************************