Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 9 Jan 2004 to 10 Jan 2004 (#2004-11) From: Automatic digest processor Date: 11/01/2004, 19:00 To: Recipients of MYSTARA-L digests Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 12 messages totalling 513 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Remains of Taymoran in 1016 2. [Mystara-Spelljammer] Exiles Campaign Part 3: Coldspace (2) 3. Lucius Hyraksos (3) 4. Thyatian Days of the Week (2) 5. Dominion confidence 6. Dragon #315 puts drow in the Hollow World (2) 7. [Mystara-Spelljammer] Exiles Campaign Part 2A: Timeline ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 19:17:45 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?la=20Volpe?= Subject: Re: Remains of Taymoran in 1016 Someone (I think Chris...Chris Cherrington, I suppose?) did a good writeup for some Adri Varma culture. I was supposed to write about Princess Argenta & ties with Glantri, and never did (shame upon me). Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ______________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail: 6MB di spazio gratuito, 30MB per i tuoi allegati, l'antivirus, il filtro Anti-spam http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 19:22:13 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?la=20Volpe?= Subject: Re: [Mystara-Spelljammer] Exiles Campaign Part 3: Coldspace This is a really massive work...I would like to put it on my website "A dark portal" (http://www.geocities.com/iuliusscaevola), the one about OBs and Nightmare Creatures. It's a long time since the last update and this could really be a good choice for the next installment. What do you think about it? Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ______________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail: 6MB di spazio gratuito, 30MB per i tuoi allegati, l'antivirus, il filtro Anti-spam http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 12:38:06 -0800 From: Brendan Corliss Subject: Lucius Hyraksos Does anyone know if there is a canon source for the exact year Lucius Hyraksos died? If there isn't one, has anyone used this event in their own campaign and how... Thanks, Damon ===== May all your endeavors be Gold! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 22:34:14 +0100 From: Jacob Skytte Subject: Re: Lucius Hyraksos He died Felmont 8, AC 1010, as chronicled in the first Poor Wizard's Almanac. Natural causes, by the way. Jacob Skytte scythe@wanadoo.dk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brendan Corliss" To: Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 9:38 PM Subject: [MYSTARA] Lucius Hyraksos > Does anyone know if there is a canon source for the > exact year Lucius Hyraksos died? > > If there isn't one, has anyone used this event in > their own campaign and how... > > Thanks, > Damon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 17:06:14 -0800 From: Brendan Corliss Subject: Re: Lucius Hyraksos Thank you very much! I kinda wondered if that might be where it was listed. Unfortunately, my copies of the PWA's (as well as Joshuan's) were among the products I donated to Bastion Press for the ESD project. I never got a copy of any of that stuff on CD, though. Hmmm, gonna have to contact them about that... Thanks again. -Damon ===== May all your endeavors be Gold! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 10:22:40 +0800 From: "Francisco V. Navarro V" Subject: Thyatian Days of the Week Hail Mystarans! Gromdain, Tserdain, Moldain, Nytdain, Loshdain My qusestion is: what do you suppose is the language of origin of these names of the days of the week? Kit Navarro Mystaran Mythologer ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 13:22:10 +1000 From: Adam horsten Subject: Dominion confidence Greetings, I'm trying to develop further the dominion confidence system with specific bonuses and penalties for events in the dominion. At present i have just jotted down a few (mostly suggestions from the rules) with nominal bonuses and penalties and though someone here may have some further suggestions or ideas. *********** Tax increase (-2) Tax Decrease (+1) Popular visitor (+2) Unpopular visitor (-1) Tourney held (+2) Disaster (-1) Population increase of 10% or more (+1) Population decrease of 10% or more (-1) Holidays Held (+1 per up to +10) Bandits operating for more than one month (+1 per month of operation over 1) Dominion succesful in war (+2) dominion unsuccesful in war (-1) Army quality -Below average or worse (-2) -Fair or average (0) -good or better (+2) New stronghold (+1per) stronghold lost (-1 per) natural event (+2 good, -2 Bad) unnatural event (+2 good, -2 Bad) upturn in relations with neighbour(+2 smaller neighbour,+4 equal neighbour,+6 greater neighbour) downturn in relations with neighbour(-2 smaller neighbour,-4 equal neighbour,-6 greater neighbour) corruption amongst officials ******************* Anakin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 19:26:42 -0800 From: John Calvin Subject: Re: [Mystara-Spelljammer] Exiles Campaign Part 3: Coldspace >> This is a really massive work...I would like to put it on my website "A dark portal" (http://www.geocities.com/iuliusscaevola), the one about OBs and Nightmare Creatures. It's a long time since the last update and this could really be a good choice for the next installment. What do you think about it? << Thanks Giulio, of course I'd be honoured if you want to put it up. I've been toying with the idea of "webifying" it up a bit myself. Although I don't actually want to maintain it on a website of my own anywhere I've been thinking that it would be easier to manage as html. I could probably package that up and send it over to you (and anyone else) if you want, or feel free to just grab what you see straight from the MML. There is quite a bit more actually, although since I haven't gotten much feedback I wasn't sure if people are actually interested. I have a few more Mystara related crystal spheres including: Shattered Spheres Scarredspace - nearing completion. Faithful (Asterius) stronghold. Crackedspace - incomplete. Spindlespace - incomplete. Inner Spheres Coldspace - nithian space, already posted. Webspace - incomplete. nithian/aranea space Bluespace - incomplete. nithian space Core Spheres Bugspace - carnifex space with some nice twists (including an OB prison) Spiralspace - incomplete. Blackmoor space Gardenspace - incomplete. Elemental Spheres Pillarspace - carnifex controlled sphere Emberspace - dragon/carnifex/efreet space Steamspace - incomplete. carnifex territory Fringe Spheres Dustspace - incomplete. Blackmorian space Strangely enough, although I have some ideas about Mystaraspace itself, I haven't made any of them concrete yet. I've mined the list extensively and borrowed ideas from other MMLers (from posts made years ago). A while back Jens and I also had some offline discussions about the topic that yielded some nifty ideas, but still... I'll get to it sometime. ===== Rule #85. I will not use any plan in which the final step is horribly complicated, e.g. "Align the 12 Stones of Power on the sacred altar then activate the medallion at the moment of total eclipse." Instead it will be more along the lines of "Push the button." from "A Guide to Becoming an Evil Overlord" by Peter Anspach __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:14:43 -0600 From: Eric Anondson Subject: Re: Thyatian Days of the Week > Gromdain, Tserdain, Moldain, Nytdain, Loshdain > > My qusestion is: what do you suppose is the language of origin of > these names of the days of the week? Well, if they are meant to be from Immortals, Grom is pretty close to Gorm (the Cynidicean Immortal). Nyt is Eusdria's name for Hel... Huh, -I'm- at a loss about what those name's origins are. Regards, Eric Anondson ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:40:18 -0600 From: Eric Anondson Subject: Dragon #315 puts drow in the Hollow World Every campaign world has its ideosyncracies that make it special. That there were shadow elves, not drow elves, is one of the great appealing factors that draws me to Mystara. I also love the Campaign Classics issues of Dragon, #315 being the most recent, even having four articles of relevance to Mystara. But the article on the Defilers of Ka describes the evil elves who are participating in the Atzanteotl-worshipping Defilers of Ka cult as "drow". Oh well... Regards, Eric Anondson ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:46:44 -0800 From: John Calvin Subject: [Mystara-Spelljammer] Exiles Campaign Part 2A: Timeline History Here is a very rough timeline for the Exiles campaign. One of my main concerns about the Exiles campaign setting was that the Carnifex would be well established by the time that either of the other exiled cultures finally made it into Known Space. The time between Carnifex exile and Blackmoorian exile is roughly 11000 years. You could (and probably should) figure that after 11000 years of occupying territory it might be pretty hard to dislodge the Carnifex. There were several solutions I came up with for doing this, but I’m really not sure how reasonable they sound. The first was that Carnifex society has always been plagued with the cancer of Outer Being worship. This provides a source of constant conflict within Carnifex cultures and may help to keep Carnifex interests turned inward instead of outward. Secondly the Blackmoorians introduced the sheens as the ultimate fighting machines. Unfortunately for the Blackmoorians, the sheens couldn’t be controlled, but significant Carnifex resources would still have to be spent on removing them from territories that they had invaded. Thirdly I took a page from Mystaran history and had the Nithians bring with them a strange wasting disease that decimates saurian life. 14000 BC – The Carnifex are driven from Mystaraspace and begin to explore and colonize the Inner Spheres. 13000 BC – Remnants of Outer Being worship begin to slowly work their way back into Carnifex civilization. 12000 BC – Carnifex civilization thrives across all of the Inner Spheres, although it is not monolithic. Various carnifex empires rise and begin to compete with one another. They also begin to explore and colonize Core and Elemental Spheres. 11000 BC – The first Outer Being purge begins. Carnifex society is torn in half and civil wars rage across their space. Followers of the Outer Beings make their bid for power, but are eventually put down. 10000 BC – Carnifex interests begin to invade the Core and Elemental worlds in earnest. They make war with any native species that they encounter. 7500 BC – The Carnifex are now well established throughout the Inner, Core, and Elemental Spheres. They spend most of their time waging war upon one another. 7000 BC – The second Outer Being Purge begins. Once again the Outer Being cultists try to seize power. After centuries of bloody conflict they are driven to the dark corners of space. 6500 BC – Elven ships first make their way into Known Space. First contact with the Carnifex does not end well and the two cultures are plunged into conflict. Unfortunately for the elves their presence in the area is not strong, and there are no reinforcements forthcoming. [This may have been due to the fact that the Mystaran Cluster is relatively isolated from the crystal spheres that the elves hailed from.] 6000 BC – Some elves stumble upon Mystaraspace and land on Grunland. They are the ancestors of all elves on Mystara. 5900 BC – Elves in Known Space (outside of Mystaraspace) are crushed. They are relegated to slave species status within Carnifex space. Their numbers will dwindle to near extinction over the next few centuries. 4000 BC – On Mystara, the culture of Blackmoor rises. 3000 BC – The Great Rain of Fire occurs on Mystara devastating the planet and destroying most of Blackmoor. The immortals drive the rest of the Blackmoorians out of the sphere with the intent of destroying them utterly. The Blackmoorians fight back turning some of the Inner Spheres into what are today called the Shattered Spheres. Several immortals are subsumed into Blackmoorian Furnaces creating the first Heirarchy lords. The immortals do not press the attack and the Eternal War is born. 2999 BC – Blackmoorian refugees begin to explore their surroundings and find a multiverse populated with hostile saurian creatures. 2950 BC – Remnants of Blackmoor find refuge in the sparsely populated Fringe Spheres and some of them begin to put down roots. Others maintain a nomadic lifestyle. 2100 BC – For the third time in 12000 years carnifex society is infected by Outer Being worship. This time the cultists manage to take control of several nations, and the Carnifex culture as a whole is weakened. Those territories seized by the cultists transform into dark and foreboding places. 2000 BC – Blackmoorian elements in Fringe space have become strong once again. They begin to push their way into more desirable space, dislocating the Carnifex already established there. In order to help them combat these fearsome foes the Blackmoorians begin to develop sheens, which are self-replicating constructs designed for war. 1950 BC – Permanent outposts are built by the immortals on several of the Inner and Shattered Spheres, and the first waves of the Faithful are sent to occupy them. 1500 BC – The nation of Nithia is born and begins its rise to power. Blackmoorian incursions into Carnifex space have begun to isolate their colonies in the Inner Spheres. 1000 BC – Sheens and sentient Blackmoorian constructs rebel from their masters and the Sheen War starts. Blackmoorians begin to purge their territories of all artificial life. 900 BC – The first Nithian colonies are established in some of the nearby Inner Spheres. The local inhabitants (mostly Carnifex) do not view them on friendly terms and hostilities begin. Due to their relative isolation (thanks in part to the Blackmoorians) these Carnifex holdings are in a weakened state and are hard pressed to keep the new invaders out. [It is possible that at this point the Nithians started developing biological weapons to combat the Carnifex. These weapons could be tied into the eventual disappearance of the Malpheggi lizardman culture on Mystara as well.] 500 BC – The Nithians have turned from the worship of the immortals and are expunged from Mystaran history. A handful of Nithian colony worlds in the Inner Spheres are spared. 450 BC – Nithian colonies, newly cut off from their home world (and each other) begin to struggle for survival. Surprisingly resistance from Carnifex neighbors has died down considerably, and the Carnifex threat has all but disappeared. 300 BC – Carnifex civilization has ceased in nearly all of the Inner Spheres. The Nithians now have enough space to stabilize their positions. Even with the Carnifex threat gone, this is not an easy task, and many of the colonies die out due to other factors. The few that manage to survive will require centuries before attaining their former glory. 500 AC – Most sheens have been driven from Blackmoorian and Carnifex held spheres and are relegated to inhabiting the Shattered Spheres. 1000 AC – The current era. The Carnifex continue to hold most of the Core Spheres as well as all of the Elemental Spheres. Blackmoorian culture thrives in Fringe Space and has managed to expand into former Carnifex Core territories as well. Nithian culture is once again on the rise and the immortals are gaining more influence throughout Known Space. ===== Rule #85. I will not use any plan in which the final step is horribly complicated, e.g. "Align the 12 Stones of Power on the sacred altar then activate the medallion at the moment of total eclipse." Instead it will be more along the lines of "Push the button." from "A Guide to Becoming an Evil Overlord" by Peter Anspach __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 14:51:32 +0800 From: "Francisco V. Navarro V" Subject: Re: Dragon #315 puts drow in the Hollow World Hail Mystaran! > Every campaign world has its ideosyncracies that make it special. That > there were shadow elves, not drow elves, is one of the great appealing > factors that draws me to Mystara. I also love the Campaign Classics > issues of Dragon, #315 being the most recent, even having four articles > of relevance to Mystara. > > But the article on the Defilers of Ka describes the evil elves who are > participating in the Atzanteotl-worshipping Defilers of Ka cult as > "drow". > > Oh well... > > > Regards, > Eric Anondson Oh well, indeed! I guess that's for them Realmsters who don't know any better. Kit Navarro Mystaran Snob ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 9 Jan 2004 to 10 Jan 2004 (#2004-11) **************************************************************