Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 24 May 2004 to 25 May 2004 (#2004-115) From: Automatic digest processor Date: 26/05/2004, 17:00 To: Recipients of MYSTARA-L digests Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 14 messages totalling 1284 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Dragon's Den (was: Map of Thunder Rift?) 2. Ottermen (was: Dragon's Den) 3. Races of Thunder Rift (3) 4. Rage of the Rakasta / Escape from Thunder Rift question 5. Organizations of the Known World Part 1 6. Organizations of the Known World Part II 7. Other Mystara sites (4) 8. Caves of Chaos (2) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 10:46:02 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Havard=20Faanes?= Subject: Re: Dragon's Den (was: Map of Thunder Rift?) Those are the Ulimwengu beavermen that Andrew mentioned. They are probably related though. ;) Havard --- john arendt skrev: > Delurking momentarily to discuss the mysterious > Ottermen... > > For some reason I seem to think they were in > 'Champions of Mystara' - one of > those books - basically a random drawing with no > relation to any > text-content I could find. Funny stuff. > > >From: Havard Faanes > >Reply-To: Mystara RPG Discussion > > >To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > >Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Dragon's Den (was: Map of > Thunder Rift?) > >Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 21:25:38 +0200 > > > >Hmmm...I wonder if I may just have dreamed up the > >whole thing. Weird. :( > > > >I like your envisioning of the otter-men though :) > > > >Havard > > > > --- Chris Cherrington > skrev: > > > You know I have been looking through those > modules, > > > even the TR ones, and not a single mention of > > > Ottermen. I do remember seeing a picture of an > > > Otterman with boots, belt and a crossbow before. > I > > > laughed at the picture, it seemed more like > "Puss in > > > Boots" than an actual race. I love otters > though, > > > very playful, I would imagine them being like > kids > > > on kiddie-crack (sugar and soda). > > > > > ============================================================ > > > From: Havard Faanes > > > Date: 2004/05/24 Mon PM 02:32:23 EDT > > > To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > > > Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Dragon's Den (was: Map of > > > Thunder Rift?) > > > > > > --- Andrew Theisen skrev: > > > > Havard > > > Faanes wrote: > > > > > > > I think (though I'm not sure) that the > Otter-men > > > are > > > > actually the Mugumba, who turn up on the > Serpent > > > > Peninsula in Champions of Mystara. I'm not > sure > > > > (after all, the Mugumba are beaver men, not > otter > > > > men), but I thought someone else mentioned > that > > > > once. > > > > > > Hmmmm...I'm pretty sure one of these modules had > > > otter-men in them aswell, though it doesn't look > > > like > > > it was in Dragons Den. Can't remember where I > saw > > > them > > > though. 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Havard --- Andrew Theisen skrev: > I just remembered something from the Savage Coast. > No boots, but are these the ottermen we've been > looking for? > > http://dnd.starflung.com/jorri.html > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: > http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to > LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ===== *** Håvard R. Faanes www.stud.ntnu.no/~havardfa ______________________________________________________ Få den nye Yahoo! Messenger på http://no.messenger.yahoo.com/ Nye ikoner og bakgrunner, webkamera med superkvalitet og dobbelt så morsom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 10:56:24 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Havard=20Faanes?= Subject: Re: Races of Thunder Rift --- Giampaolo Agosta wrote: > Ah, the Daro... basically a mix of Northern Traldar > (from Selenica and possibly lost cities destroyed by > the Gnolls in current Southern Darokin) and Antalian > people coming from the north in small bands. > To this, add subsequent waves of colonists from > Thyatis (people who left for Glantri, but stopped > halfway) and Traldara, and later from Glantri itself > (after the Light of Rad). > Western Darokin people have also ties to Sind, while > eastern Daro have Ylari blood. Gaimpaolo, I sort of had you in mind when I asked for etnology expertize. Which people would you recommend for making up the general human population in Thunder Rift? they could easily be a mix ofcourse... > > Well, perhaps his name was Tharic Farolas for > > instance, meaning "Of the Farolas clan"? > > Or, the new clan took name from the founder, like > the Everast and Torkrest did, IIRC. That works even better IMO. Lets say they were from the Syrklist Clan like Andrew suggested. Perhaps they mined their way all the way into TR, possibly while working on an early version of the Darokin Tunnel? Perhaps the project failed and the caves collapsed behind them, leaving Farolas and his friends trapped in a strange valley (Hmmm...anyone read Bone here?). Rakasta: > Note that modern Myoshiman Rakasta don't need > portals to travel to Mystara, they can use their > flying sabertooth tigers. > This may or may not have been an option for the > Ashai Rakasta, depending > on who they were and why they fled. I dont remember exactly how this was explained in VotPA. Did they have some sort of magical devices which allowed them to fly through space? This would fit with my idea about them staying on the Shining Isles before arriving in Thunder Rift. Here is another theory on that: The Void Tunnels: This is a strange magical phenomenon, consisting of tunnels of air leading from holes in Mystara's Sky Shield to Myoshima. Individuals who know about the Tunnels can use them by even a simple fly spell or other flying device to travel between the two worlds. Tunnel Storms Some Tunnels are prone to storms. some of these storms become powerful twisters who on occasion have sucked up people from Mystara and placed them on Myoshima and the other way around aswell. It is possible that this is how the Rakasta ended up on Myoshima in the first place, but that is mere speculations. Havard ===== *** Håvard R. Faanes www.stud.ntnu.no/~havardfa ______________________________________________________ Få den nye Yahoo! Messenger på http://no.messenger.yahoo.com/ Nye ikoner og bakgrunner, webkamera med superkvalitet og dobbelt så morsom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 11:22:21 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Havard=20Faanes?= Subject: Re: Rage of the Rakasta / Escape from Thunder Rift question --- Dan Eustace wrote: > I don't remember if the dwarves built this or not, > but the interior of their > fortress was sealed off to prevent anyone gaining > access to it. Some > ancient dwarven hero battled a wizard who was > attempting to use the portal. > The details are in Escape from Thunder Rift. Hmmm...I gotta see if I can find this reference. Going with my theory that the valley was originally occupied by Hutaakans, they probably had some settlements there before the dwarves, thus explaining the Pool Gate. When was this battle between the wizard and the dwarf? Did the dwarves side with the fighters during the Sword vs. Wand conflict? sounds likely, though fear of another war against the elves might have prevented it. I used > Hearth-Home IMC, as a > dwarven community outside of Oceansend, w. Thyatian > agents investigating the > portal as a possible quick strike invasion route to > Norwold. I'll see if I > can dig up the info so it can be added into the > timeline. Cool, let us know what you've got. Ofcourse, currently the project assumes TR is located somewhere in Darokin, but that doesn't mean much of your stuff cant be used! :) Havard ===== *** Håvard R. Faanes www.stud.ntnu.no/~havardfa ______________________________________________________ Få den nye Yahoo! Messenger på http://no.messenger.yahoo.com/ Nye ikoner og bakgrunner, webkamera med superkvalitet og dobbelt så morsom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 11:33:29 +0200 From: Giampaolo Agosta Subject: Re: Races of Thunder Rift Havard Faanes wrote: > >> Ah, the Daro... basically a mix of Northern Traldar >> (from Selenica and possibly lost cities destroyed by >> the Gnolls in current Southern Darokin) and Antalian >> people coming from the north in small bands. > > Gaimpaolo, I sort of had you in mind when I asked for > etnology expertize. :) > Which people would you recommend > for making up the general human population in Thunder > Rift? they could easily be a mix ofcourse... Well, the main problem is that I don't have any Thunder Rift material, so I don't know what are the general characteristics of the human population of the TR, and their language (names, for example). Anyway, if they are located in a hidden valley in Darokin (sort of Darokinian version of Haven?), the population could include anything ranging from Taymoran to Thyatian, including Traladaran, Antalian, Nithian and so on. Given more details, I could probably be more specific. > That works even better IMO. Lets say they were from > the Syrklist Clan like Andrew suggested. Perhaps they > mined their way all the way into TR, possibly while > working on an early version of the Darokin Tunnel? > Perhaps the project failed and the caves collapsed > behind them, leaving Farolas and his friends trapped > in a strange valley (Hmmm...anyone read Bone here?). Or, they were lost in a SE underground tunnel, or they are some of the missing inhabitant of Jhyrrad (the dwarven "lost city"). > I dont remember exactly how this was explained in > VotPA. Did they have some sort of magical devices > which allowed them to fly through space? This would > fit with my idea about them staying on the Shining > Isles before arriving in Thunder Rift. Yes, something like that. I don't remember the details, though. They do have sort of airmasks (spells woven into the tiger harnesses, IIRC). > The Void Tunnels: That's possible. The Tunnels might even move more or less randomly, stranding people on the wrong side. -- Giampaolo Agosta http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 12:56:22 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Havard=20Faanes?= Subject: Organizations of the Known World Part 1 Organizations of the Known World Using organizations in a Mystaran Campaign Organizations can be a good tool for a Mystara Campaign. An organization can be used to flesh out a PC, as an employer for the PCs, an enemy of the PCs or just a recurring group in the campaign (for good or worse). Most Gazetters introduced one or more organizations. However, since they were introduced in country specific products, it was natural to assume that the organization had no or little influence outside that country. However, there is no reason why that should be the case. The Iron Ring for instance is a slaver organization based in the Black Eagle Barony, Karameikos. However, since slavery is illegal the organization must go to foreign contacts to sell its slaves. Thyatis is the most popular market since slavery is quite common there. Also, the Iron Ring has access to Baron Von Hendriks contacts in Hattias which makes their slave trade with Thyatians easier. Also, it is rumoured that slaves are sold to Darokin merchants as indentured servants. The Iron Ring is a typical example of an organization best suited as an enemy of the PCs. The PCs will notice their characteristic manacle tattoos and general slaver demeanour. PCs may acquire personal enemies within the Iron ring, but even if these individuals are defeated, other members of the organization will take over and may even go after the PCs if they cause too much trouble. Churches and Wizard guilds are examples of organizations which may serve both as opponents and allies/patrons of the PCs. You could have the whole group working for such an organization, even if the PCs aren’t all Clerics or Wizards. Both Churches and Wizard Guilds employ many different people, and working with an organization for a long time will allow the PCs to earn respect from that organization. A benefit of working for an organization is that the organization will have access to greater resources and equipment that have. If the PCs are in a new town, they may contact the local members of their organization (if any) and will usually receive help, shelter etc from these. A downside may be that if the PCs are working for a specific group or organization, they may find that the organization has rivals and enemies of other organizations, which now will become enemies or rivals of the PCs. There are also many other ways organizations can come into play in a Mystara Campaign, without the PCs being members of an organization or enemies of one. NPC allies of the PCs may be members of an organization, even if the PCs never deal directly with the organization themselves. Religious and fighting orders may show up during an adventure and cause trouble for the PCs, even if they aren’t necessarily enemies of the PCs. A fighting order, such as the Knights of the Griffon may show up and insist that the PCs stay away from the caves they were supposed to investigate. Instead the Knights of the Griffon insist that they will take care of the situation (and also get their hands on the treasure involved). Now the PCs must decide whether they want to become enemies of the Knights or whether there is some way they can get what they want. Sample organizations: Storm Legion (a.k.a. Storm Soldiers) -F Sisterhood of the Sword -F Sisterhood of the Gray Lady -F Foresters -R League of Rakes –R, B Order of Kagyar -C Shire Masters (a.k.a. Halfling Masters) -D Orders of the Secret Crafts –W, S Darokin Merchants Guild –R, B, E Darokin Diplomatic Corp (DDC) –R, B, Ex Minrothad Trade Guilds –Ex, R, W Monks of the Temple of Will (Ierendi) Monks of Ochaela -M Knights of the Griffon –F, P Knights of Heldann –F, P Bratak Schools (Ethengar Rogues) -R Wise Women -S Odin’s Ravens –C Shepherds of Rad –M? W? Veiled Society -R Iron Ring –R, F Specularum Thieves Guild -R Church of Thyatis -C Church of Darokin -C Church of Karameikos -C Church of the Eternal Truth -C Church of Traldara -C Karameikos Wizards Guild –W, S Alphatian Wizards Guild –W, S Thyatian Wizards Guild -W, S Order of Scaleras (Wizards) -W, S Knights of the Air Order of Retebius The Thorn Hammer of Kagyar Silly Organizations: Several organizations were introduced in the Glantri Gazetters. Quite a few of them were included mostly for laughs with silly acronym names like E.L.F. (Elven Liberation Front) and F.A.I.R.I.E. Some of these may be revised by changing their names and turned into more serious organizations should the GM wish so. ===== *** Håvard R. Faanes www.stud.ntnu.no/~havardfa ______________________________________________________ Få den nye Yahoo! Messenger på http://no.messenger.yahoo.com/ Nye ikoner og bakgrunner, webkamera med superkvalitet og dobbelt så morsom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 12:57:00 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Havard=20Faanes?= Subject: Organizations of the Known World Part II Foresters (Revised) Primary Classes: Ranger, Druid. The Foresters is an organization of humans trained in the Way of the Forest by Vyalian Druids. Only Rangers and Druids may join the organization. They are trained to develop their wilderness skills and druidic abilities. Foresters have a dual role, both in defeating monsters to keep the rural population safe, and to protect woodland creatures from humans. The Foresters are active mostly in Thyatis and Karameikos, but may also be encountered in other parts of the Known World. Since the events WotI it has been rumoured that the displaced Alfheim Elves have found allies among the Foresters and that the Foresters will help the Alfheimers regain their lost forest. If the DM wishes, he may prepare a special PrC available to the most exceptional Foresters. Note: In 3e, Forester is no longer a class (although a PrC may be made available), but an organization. I have changed the “elven way” to the “Way of the Forest” associating the organization more with Rangers and Druids than with the Elf Class from OD&D. League of Rakes Primary Classes: Rogue, Bard The League of Rakes is known as the most efficient spy network in Thyatis. The members consider themselves Thieves with Honour or Gentlemen Spies. The organization is independent; it does not work for the emperor. Anyone may use their services, as long as they are willing to pay. Members of the League do not steal, nor are they assassins, but their code of honour allows them to relay information. The organization is based in Thyatis City, but its representatives may be found all over the Known World (and elsewhere too). It is even rumoured that they have infiltrated the DDC on occasions. They are known for possessing a large number of magical items and gnomish devices that help their members become the best spies in the Known World. Allies and enemies: Rakes are disliked by Thieves guilds and other criminal organizations because they are seen to move into their territory without being ‘proper thieves’. On the other hand, the League of Rakes is quite popular among respectable citizens, because of their honor code. Note: Rakes are not a class in 3e like it was in OD&D. I have changed them slightly making the Rakes an organization of Gentleman Spies, a slight extrapolation of the OD&D version. Most League members are Rogues (following the standard rules). They may use the sneak attack (unlike OD&D thieves), but rarely use the Sleight of Hand skill for thieving purposes. Storm Legion Primary Class: Fighters Storm Legion is a fighting order based on the island of Hattias in the Empire of Thyatis. They propagate human dominance over non-humans and maintain that women should be slaves for men. Storm Legionaries are usually found in Thyatis, Karameikos and Heldann, but they may also be encountered elsewhere. They honor Ares (Alphaks) as their patron of war. Note: I changed their name from Storm Soldiers to Storm Legionaries to avoid the SS pun, but also because it fits in the Thyatian context. Allies and Enemies: Nobody really likes the Storm Legionaries as they are seen as a brutal and hateful lot. The Legionaries enjoy support in Hattians though. The Legionaries consider the Sisterhood of the Sword as enemies since they promote unsuitable roles for women and the Foresters because they encourage a demi-human way of life. Sisterhood of the Sword Primary Classes: Fighter, Paladin The sisterhood of the sword is an order of Fighting Women in Thyatis. Due to the influence of the Storm Legionaries and others, fighting women are scorned in the empire and the Sisterhood works to change this. Allies and Enemies: The Sisterhood of the Sword are enemies of the Storm Legion, because of its hateful attitude towards fighting women and women in general. The Sisterhood is allied with the Sisterhood of the Gray Lady. The Sisterhood dislikes the Heldannic Knights because of their associations with Hattias. Order of Retebius Primary Classes: Fighter, Paladin, Ranger This is a military order in Thyatis, under the command of the Emperor. Members of the Order are trained with using Wyverns as mounts. They are a very prestigious branch of the Thyatian armed forces and enjoy wide popularity among the population. Allies and Enemies: The Order is very popular throughout the Empire and among its allies, but disliked by countries with not so good relations with Thyatis. The Order is on friendly terms with the Knights if the Air, many of whom are retired Retebius members. Note: According to the Dawn of the Emperors the Order used a wide range of creatures as mounts including Dragons. Bruce Heard later unofficially suggested that this be changed to Wyverns, hence that change in this description. Knights of the Air Primary Classes: Fighter, Paladin, Ranger Knights of the Air is an order mainly consisting of retired members of the Order of Retebius, but the main requirement for membership is requiring a flying mount. Not surprisingly, most members use Wyverns as mounts, but griffons are also popular, especially among elven members. Allies and enemies: The order is on friendly terms with the Order of Retebius. Foresters are also friendly towards the Knights since many of their members are elves. The Knights are seen as servants of the Emperor and are thus liked or hated depending on how the individual feels about Thyatis. Note: Flying mounts were revised as per the Order of Retebius. The detail about elves using Griffons is a common fantasy cliché, which I have decided to incorporate in my version of Mystara. The Iron Ring Primary Classes: Thief, Fighter, Warrior, Thug (UA), Brigand (KoK) The Iron Ring is an organization of slavers based in Halag, Karameikos. Their main activity is kidnapping Traldarans and halfings from the Five Shires and selling them off as slaves to Thyatis or Indentured Servants to Darokin. They have good connections among the Hattian nobility. Allies and Enemies: The Iron Ring is illegal in Karameikos. However, it receives support from many among the Karameikan aristocracy aswell as among the Hattian nobility. They are on friendly terms with the Storm Legion, who secretly has encouraged the Iron Ring to capture more halfling and elf slaves. Note: After Von Hendriks is driven out of Halag, the Iron Ring moves its center of operations somewhere else, but continues its activity with the support of others within Karameikan aristocracy. Sisterhood of the Gray Lady Primary Classes: Fighter, Paladin. This is a fighting order for Thyatian women devout to Vanya. Allies and Enemies: the sisterhood is allied with the Sisterhood of the Sword, and enemies of the Storm Legion. Holy Order of Kagyar Primary Class: Cleric (Dwarves) This is a religious order serving Kagyar. Only dwarves are permitted and almost all dwarven clerics belong to this order, though dwarven clerics outside Rockhome sometimes take up the worship of other Immortals. Their basic ethos is to serve Kagyar. They are not allowed to heal non-dwarves, nor are they allowed to use any magic to destroy matter. Allies and Enemies: The Order of Kagyar is downright hostile to Dwarven Clerics following Immortals outside the Dwarven Pantheon (Kagyar, Garl, Terra). They dislike Foresters due to their association with elves. They are allied with the Hammer of Kagyar, but don’t always approve of the actions of that organization. Note: This is an adaption of the Dwarven Cleric class from OD&D. Since they were given a class of their own in that system, I figured they deserved special mention here. Cult of Halav Primary Class: Cleric The Cult of Halav is religious organization of fanatic followers of Halav. Most simply view these guys as silly and annoying, but the cult is actually on the verge of being taken over by agents of Entropy. Allies and Enemies: Although few take them seriously, the Cult of Halav considers itself a fierce enemy of the Church of Karameikos and the Knights of the Griffon. The Church of Traladara is allied with the Cult of Halav, but is worried about the direction that the Cult is taking. Note: making the Cult an agent of Entropy is my own idea for making the Cult more than just a bunch of fanatic loonies. The Thorn Primary Class: Rogue (Dwarf) This organization started out as a club for young dwarven pranksters who wanted to annoy the elves of Alfheim. They arranged “raids” on Alfheim elves, but never caused serious harm. In fact, the Dwarves of the Thorn were the dwarves in Rockhome who had most contact with elves. With the destruction of Alfheim, The Thorn changed. The dwarves realized the seriousness of the situation and decided that they wanted to help their elven rivals regain their forest. The Thorn has contacted elven refugees in Karameikos and is working alongside the elves opposing the Shadow elves. Allies and Enemies: After WotI, The Thorn is allied with the Alfheim refugees including the extreme organization the Alfheim Avengers, as well as the Foresters. Their sudden sympathy for the elves is met with surprise and confusion among other dwarves. The Hammer of Kagyar has even shown strong dislike for the Thorn since their change in attitude. Note: I have taken some liberties with the Thorn when updating it to the post WotI situation. Kagyar’s Hammer Primary Classes: Cleric, Fighter, Paladin (Dwarf) Kagyar’s Hammer is a religious fighting order in Rockhome, serving Kagyar. Most members spend their life fighting evil, but parts of the order have become quite extreme and propagate dwarven supremacy. Especially, many show hate towards elves. Allies and Enemies: Although not official policy, many among the Kagyar’s Hammer are hostile towards elves and Forresters, and even show strong dislike for the Thorn after that organization suddenly became elf-friendly. The order is allied with the Order of Kagyar. Note: Kagyar’s Hammer is solely my own creation. At their best they are a sort of Dwarven Paladins. At their worst, they are Rockhome’s Storm Legion. Knights of the Griffon Primary Classes: Fighter, Cleric, Paladin The Knights of the Griffon are a religious fighting order associated with the Church of Karameikos. They are loyal servants of the High Patriarch of the Church of Karameikos (currently Jowett). Anyone can be a member of the order, but only nobles can gain the title Knight of the Griffon. Allies and Enemies: The Knights are allied with the Church of Karameikos, and with King Stefan. The Cult of Halav considers it their enemies and the Church of Traladara often speaks out against the Knights. The Knights hate the Iron Ring above all other Karameikan criminal organizations. PrC: The DM may consider allowing Knights of the Griffon to access the Purple Knight PrC if they meet those requirements. Notes: This is an extrapolation of the Order of the Griffon. Shire Masters Primary Class: Druid (Halfling) The Shire Masters, sometimes just called Hin Masters, are druids of the Five Shires and the Shires of Leeha. They have a special status in Hin society and are respected by all Halflings. They serve as judges in disputes between the clans and protectors of the Hin Homelands. The Shire Masters enjoy a unique position within the Five Shires, but rarely leave the borders of the Halfling Homelands. Allies and Enemies: Shire Masters are respected and honoured by all Halflings. They hate the Iron Ring since its members abduct Halflings to sell as slaves. They are on friendly terms with elves and Foresters, as well as other druids. PrC: Hin Masters may access a Hin Master PrC if available, or if the DM allows, he may substitute that with the Hierophant PrC. Note: This is an adaptation of the OD&D Halfling Master class. Mystic order of the Temple of Will Primary Classes: Monk, Psionic Classes. The Temple of Will is an order of Monks based on Ierendi. Combining the philosophies of Alphatia and Ochaela, these Monks seek inner enlightenment. Some among the order have even developed psionic talents. The Temple is based in Ierendi, but its Monks may be found all over the Known World. Allies and Enemies: The Temple of Will has few enemies or allies, as its monks tend to keep to themselves. They have some relations with the Mystic Order of Ochaela, though they have philosophical disagreements. Note: This will need to be developed further later. Mystic Order of Ochaela Primary Classes: Monk, Psionic Classes, Cleric These mystics are followers of Korotiku and seek inner enlightenment following the Great Spider’s Example. Although often very serious, the Monks also believe that humour is a virtue. They are widely known for their martial arts. Although based in Ochaela, the monks of the order often travel widely in order to learn more about the world. Ochaelan Temples have also been established in other Known World countries with some success. Allies and Enemies: They have some relations with the Mystic Order of the Temple of Will, though they have philosophical disagreements. Havard ===== *** Håvard R. Faanes www.stud.ntnu.no/~havardfa ______________________________________________________ Få den nye Yahoo! Messenger på http://no.messenger.yahoo.com/ Nye ikoner og bakgrunner, webkamera med superkvalitet og dobbelt så morsom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 10:04:54 -0400 From: Geoff Gander Subject: Re: Other Mystara sites > > This is ridiculous! :-( I`ll say! > How many people lost their websites? Is there any way > we can make a list of which files are gone? I dont know about other people, but I was lucky enough to have backups of about 95% of my files - almost all of the rest I recovered on the Wayback machine. Unfortunately, real life has prevented me from rebuilding my site, and I probably wont get around to it for several weeks. I received no warning whatsoever - the site just disappeared. I complained to Geocities, and they gave me a form-letter response about how lower-volume sites, or those that do not get updated within a certain time frame, will be deleted. So, if anyone knows of a hosting site that will not delete web content without warning, Id love to hear about it. Geoff -- Geoff Gander, BA 97, MPA 02 Carnifex Loremaster/Mad Roleplayer Master of the Elemental Plane of Bureaucracy au998@freenet.carleton.ca : www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Realm/2091 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 16:23:23 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Havard=20Faanes?= Subject: Re: Other Mystara sites --- Geoff Gander wrote: > I complained to > Geocities, and they gave me a form-letter response > about how lower-volume > sites, or those that do not get updated within a > certain time frame, will > be deleted. What time frame are we talking about? 1 month? 1 year? I couldn't find anything about it on geocities' pages though I may not have been looking in the right places. :-( My site wasn't lost, but I am seriously considering moving it now. Havard ===== *** Håvard R. Faanes www.stud.ntnu.no/~havardfa ______________________________________________________ Få den nye Yahoo! Messenger på http://no.messenger.yahoo.com/ Nye ikoner og bakgrunner, webkamera med superkvalitet og dobbelt så morsom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 07:25:03 -0700 From: Thibault Sarlat Subject: Re: Other Mystara sites the best way is to pay for the hosting. i am currently searching for a good space (at reasonnable price). i found some at about 3 to 5 US dollars per month...for 0.5 to 1 gib space thib --- Geoff Gander wrote: > > > >This is ridiculous! :-( > > I`ll say! > > >How many people lost their websites? Is there any > way > >we can make a list of which files are gone? > > I dont know about other people, but I was lucky > enough to have backups of > about 95% of my files - almost all of the rest I > recovered on the Wayback > machine. Unfortunately, real life has prevented me > from rebuilding my > site, and I probably wont get around to it for > several weeks. I received > no warning whatsoever - the site just disappeared. > I complained to > Geocities, and they gave me a form-letter response > about how lower-volume > sites, or those that do not get updated within a > certain time frame, will > be deleted. > > So, if anyone knows of a hosting site that will not > delete web content > without warning, Id love to hear about it. > > Geoff > > -- > Geoff Gander, BA 97, MPA 02 > Carnifex Loremaster/Mad Roleplayer > Master of the Elemental Plane of Bureaucracy > au998@freenet.carleton.ca : > www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Realm/2091 > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: > http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to > LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ===== Thibault SARLAT a.k.a Clenarius www.mystara.fr.st ICQ 16622177 MSN Messenger: clenarius@hotmail.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 07:52:05 -0700 From: Ray Allen Subject: Re: Other Mystara sites Geoff (and other Geocities folks) I have some friends in Australia that might be of some use to you. It's videocam.net.au. It wouldn't be free like Geocities but I bet it's fairly cheap as it's a family run ISP. Email Gaelyne at....gaelyne at videocam.net.au (you all know how to translate it! *snicker*) and ask. --Ray. --- Geoff Gander wrote: > > > >This is ridiculous! :-( > > I`ll say! > > >How many people lost their websites? Is there any way > >we can make a list of which files are gone? > > I dont know about other people, but I was lucky enough > to have backups of > about 95% of my files - almost all of the rest I > recovered on the Wayback > machine. Unfortunately, real life has prevented me > from rebuilding my > site, and I probably wont get around to it for several > weeks. I received > no warning whatsoever - the site just disappeared. I > complained to > Geocities, and they gave me a form-letter response > about how lower-volume > sites, or those that do not get updated within a > certain time frame, will > be deleted. > > So, if anyone knows of a hosting site that will not > delete web content > without warning, Id love to hear about it. > > Geoff > > -- > Geoff Gander, BA 97, MPA 02 > Carnifex Loremaster/Mad Roleplayer > Master of the Elemental Plane of Bureaucracy > au998@freenet.carleton.ca : > www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Realm/2091 > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: > http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to > LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ===== If you have to choose between books and computers, there's no doubt which you should choose. 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Thanks, I have that set. I found the Castellan Keep, and location and title certainly fit, but is there any official 'this is where B2 sits' note? I couldn't find one. -- "...How shall a man judge what to do in such times?!" "As he has ever judged," said Aragorn "Good and evil have not changed since yesteryear..." J.R.R. Tolkien, _The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers_ Paul Westermeyer, pwestermeyer@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 09:18:00 -0700 From: Thibault Sarlat Subject: Re: Caves of Chaos there was one on the blue expert set booklet on the maps of karameikos. at least in the frecnh version.. --- Paul Westermeyer wrote: > >--- Paul Westermeyer > >wrote: > >> I have a question, B2 Caves of Chaos, can anyone > >> tell me where on > >> Mystara that was set? Or where they set it? I > >> usually placed it in > >> Karameikos. > >> > > > >Its set in the far north eastern mountaions of > >karameikos. The Keep in B2 is the Castallion Keep > on > >the K:KoA boxed set. > > Thanks, I have that set. I found the Castellan Keep, > and location and > title certainly fit, but is there any official 'this > is where B2 > sits' note? I couldn't find one. > -- > "...How shall a man judge what to do in such > times?!" > "As he has ever judged," said Aragorn "Good and evil > have not changed > since yesteryear..." > J.R.R. Tolkien, _The Lord of the Rings: The Two > Towers_ > > Paul Westermeyer, pwestermeyer@tampabay.rr.com > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: > http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to > LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ===== Thibault SARLAT a.k.a Clenarius www.mystara.fr.st ICQ 16622177 MSN Messenger: clenarius@hotmail.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 22:50:08 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Havard=20Faanes?= Subject: Re: Races of Thunder Rift --- Giampaolo Agosta > Well, the main problem is that I don't have any > Thunder Rift material, so I don't know what are the > general characteristics of the human population of > the TR, and their language (names, for example). > Anyway, if they are located in a hidden valley in > Darokin (sort of Darokinian version of Haven?), the > population could include anything ranging from > Taymoran to Thyatian, including Traladaran, > Antalian, Nithian and so on. > Given more details, I could probably be more > specific. I am still uncertain about what to do with the timeline. Currently I have the humans arrive around BC 700. Their names dont really indicate much of a culture. We have major Valum, the legendary Jameson, Karyn the thief, Raven the Master Thief, Enora the Cleric etc etc... Dwarves: > Or, they were lost in a SE underground tunnel, or > they are some of the missing inhabitant of Jhyrrad > (the dwarven "lost city"). Actually, that fits even better :) Where can I read more about Jhyrrad? Rakasts flying devices: > Yes, something like that. I don't remember the > details, though. > They do have sort of airmasks (spells woven into the > tiger harnesses, IIRC). Well, that saves us from too may portals at least. > > The Void Tunnels: > That's possible. The Tunnels might even move more or > less randomly, > stranding people on the wrong side. I'm really in love with my own idea on this one. :) There should certainly be a randomness element to the tunnels, but someone with some knowledge of astrology should be able to guess more or less where a tunnel will appear. (Sort of like the Rainbow from CM7). Havard ===== *** Håvard R. 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