Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 18 Jan 2004 to 19 Jan 2004 (#2004-20)
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Topics of the day:

 1. Small update to my Taymoran project (2)
 2. Thorin Oakenshield <= Tolkien's Hobbit
 3. Chaositech and the Outer Beings
 4. Monks in Mystara (5)
 5. Cosmopolitan Karameikos

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Date:    Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:01:28 +0100
From:    Giampaolo Agosta <agathokles@KATAMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Small update to my Taymoran project

John Calvin wrote:

>
> I wonder if wererat "commandos" could have been used to spread disease among
> the Taymoran Kings enemies.  Not just Lycanthropy, but other more mundane
> diseases that could plague (and run rampant) among the general populace.

More likely, other diseases. But I considered that, with their limited lifespan and shapechanging powers, Taymoran lycanthropes made poor infiltrators, so I decided to have direct combat be their primary use.
They could be used to spread diseases through other means, like acting as bandits/highwaymen in other Kings' lands.

> Wererats like this might be linked to Necromancer Kings who employed large
> numbers of undead.  Send the rats in, cause a plague, and raise up an army from
> within the city of your enemy.  Just a random thought.

Yes, that's an interesting idea, especially for those who use zombies.

> A number of the most resilient individuals had been able to survive
> longer than the few months most would live as beast-men. These
> Lycanthropes started resenting their vampiric masters, and formed a
> secret society devoted to overthrowing them. A previously unknown
> Immortal manifested to them, calling himself Lykaion2, and offered them
> help against their masters for their worship.
>
> :)  So who is this unknown immortal?  Inquiring minds want to know.  Someone
> new or just a new face on someone old?
As I said in note 2, it could have been Loki trying to gain a foothold
in a nation that was rapidly becoming the field of battle of the main
entropic powers.
-- 

    Giampaolo Agosta

http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles

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Date:    Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:04:09 +0100
From:    Giampaolo Agosta <agathokles@KATAMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Small update to my Taymoran project

John Calvin wrote:

>
> 3: See the Book of Souls, at the Kargatane website.
>
> I'm going to have to check this out.  Is there a website?
Ops, yes, it's the former Ravenloft official fan website. They produced
AD&D rules for lycanthropes quite different from those in the Player
Crucible, but well suited for AD&D.
The address is www.kargatane.com
-- 

    Giampaolo Agosta

http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles

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Date:    Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:45:40 -0500
From:    Geoff Gander <au998@FREENET.CARLETON.CA>
Subject: Re: Thorin Oakenshield <= Tolkien's Hobbit

>
> BOOOOOO Geoff !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Thorin Oakenshield comes from Tolkien's "Hobbit". He's
> the chief of the dwarves who led Bilbo to the Erebor
> expedition...
>
> thib

Eeek! My bad! *goes on mission of penitence*

Geof

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Date:    Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:50:55 -0500
From:    Geoff Gander <au998@FREENET.CARLETON.CA>
Subject: Re: Chaositech and the Outer Beings

<snip>

Interesting....looks like something that would defintely fit into a late
Blackmoor or post-GRoF campaign that involved the activities of OB cults,
when such groups would be more likely to operate out in the open.

Geoff

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Date:    Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:23:35 -0800
From:    SUBSCRIBE MYSTARA-L Lothlann <zannabis@LIBERO.IT>
Subject: Monks in Mystara

Hi to all!

With the 3.5 version of D&D the monks it's a new class never concerned in
the world of Mystara. There are places in Brun where i can find a
monastery or a similar place?

Thanks for your answers

Daniele

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Date:    Tue, 20 Jan 2004 09:13:21 +1000
From:    Adam horsten <anakin@UQ.NET.AU>
Subject: Re: Monks in Mystara

Not sure if this answers what you are asking but.
1. Monks have always been part of Mystara (the old Mystic Class).
2. At the very least there would be monastaries in Sind

Anakin

SUBSCRIBE MYSTARA-L Lothlann wrote:

> Hi to all!
>
> With the 3.5 version of D&D the monks it's a new class never concerned in
> the world of Mystara. There are places in Brun where i can find a
> monastery or a similar place?
>
> Thanks for your answers
>
> Daniele
>
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Date:    Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:53:39 +0800
From:    "Francisco V. Navarro V" <fvnmd@INFO.COM.PH>
Subject: Re: Monks in Mystara

For the Oriental type of Monks (D&D Mystics)
1. Ochalea (not really on Brun)
2. the Oriental cultures on Skothar (definitely not on Brun)
3. Thyatis, where Ochalean immigrants have, well, immigrated and probably
set up a small temple/monastery
4. Sind

For the Western type of Monks, well, certain religious orders and Immortals
would naturally lend themselves better to monasticism, but these wouldn't
really be the Monk/Mystic types you're thinking of would they?

Kit Navarro



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Subject: [MYSTARA] Monks in Mystara


> Hi to all!
>
> With the 3.5 version of D&D the monks it's a new class never concerned in
> the world of Mystara. There are places in Brun where i can find a
> monastery or a similar place?
>
> Thanks for your answers
>
> Daniele
>
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Date:    Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:21:20 -0800
From:    Rodger Burns <libramus@SCN.ORG>
Subject: Re: Monks in Mystara

Francisco V. Navarro V wrote on Monday, January 19, 2004 6:54 PM:
>
> For the Oriental type of Monks (D&D Mystics)
> 1. Ochalea (not really on Brun)
> 2. the Oriental cultures on Skothar (definitely not on Brun)
> 3. Thyatis, where Ochalean immigrants have, well, immigrated and probably
> set up a small temple/monastery
> 4. Sind

Ethengar might also have a small but thriving Mystic tradition, especially
given the monastic groups in Glantri that migrated in from Ethengar.  (The
brataks would just *love* to have someone with a Mystic's movement and
open-hand abilities on call.)  Ierendi's also cosmopolitan enough to have
assimilated an oriental-type Monk population.

And if you're running 3E, demihuman monks could easily exist in both Alfheim
and the Five Shires, and possibly spread outward from there into parts of
Darokin and Karameikos.  (Try as I might, though, I can't see an order of
Rockhome dwarf monks! :D)

>
> For the Western type of Monks, well, certain religious orders and
> Immortals
> would naturally lend themselves better to monasticism, but these wouldn't
> really be the Monk/Mystic types you're thinking of would they?
>
> Kit Navarro
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "SUBSCRIBE MYSTARA-L Lothlann" <zannabis@LIBERO.IT>
> To: <MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 3:23 AM
> Subject: [MYSTARA] Monks in Mystara
>
>
> > Hi to all!
> >
> > With the 3.5 version of D&D the monks it's a new class never
> concerned in
> > the world of Mystara. There are places in Brun where i can find a
> > monastery or a similar place?
> >
> > Thanks for your answers
> >
> > Daniele
> >

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Date:    Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:29:24 -0600
From:    Eric Anondson <xen@VISI.COM>
Subject: Re: Monks in Mystara

> For the Oriental type of Monks (D&D Mystics)
> 1. Ochalea (not really on Brun)
> 2. the Oriental cultures on Skothar (definitely not on Brun)
> 3. Thyatis, where Ochalean immigrants have, well, immigrated and
> probably
> set up a small temple/monastery
> 4. Sind

Also, the Honorbound and Fighting Monks of Bellayne.


Regards,
Eric Anondson

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Date:    Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:31:28 -0800
From:    Rodger Burns <libramus@SCN.ORG>
Subject: Cosmopolitan Karameikos

Just a thought I had recently, while musing over the Known World -
Karameikos exists as a merger of the Traladaran and Thyatian cultures, in an
uneasy balance.  But the 'Thyatian' culture of Karameikos is kind of an
anomaly, as such things go - mostly Kerendans, some Hattians, and not much
else.  The 'real' Thyatis to the east is a lot more diverse.  Where do the
other ethnic groups of Thyatis fit in to Karameikos?

(From metagaming, the reason for this is obvious - GAZ1 was written years
before DotE went into detail on Thyatis, and nobody knew about the diversity
of Thyatis back when Karameikos was first detailed.  But since when have the
limitations of a publishing schedule stopped us?)

I suspect that a close look at Karameikos - with the benefit of some
hindsight - might reveal a leavening of Ochaleans, Pearl Islanders, and
maybe even IoD Alphatians in among the rest.  Anyone else have any thoughts
on this?


"The best lack all conviction,
While the worst are full of passionate intensity."
                       - W.B. Yeats, "The Second Coming"
Rodger Burns
<libramus@scn.org>

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