Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 31 May 2005 to 1 Jun 2005 (#2005-116) From: Automatic digest processor Date: 02/06/2005, 17:00 To: Recipients of MYSTARA-L digests Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 5 messages totalling 284 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Glantri Question (3) 2. Vedr. Re: [MYSTARA] Radience/Blackmoor alternative theory 3. Vedr. Re: [MYSTARA] Radience/Blackmoor alternative theory ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:47:40 +0200 From: Altair IV Subject: Re: Glantri Question > That saved me from looking through a several volumes, of which I am sure > Night Howlers would have been last. That's strange! Night Howlers includes (and you can see it on any Item description on TSR and Vendor catalogues) a complete description of the Valley of Wolves, a short Gaz of this place and its peculiar citizens, starting from Malachie Altair IV - the Darkstar ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 16:29:13 +0200 From: Havard Faanes Subject: Vedr. Re: [MYSTARA] Radience/Blackmoor alternative theory --- Dustin Clingman skrev: > This is a pretty cool alternate version. If you are > tying it into the > Current Blackmoor works, you could use Hadeen as > your fallen god since he > was rumored to have fallen to Blackmoor after being > killed by his evil > brother. Thanks Dustin! I am definately using the current ZGG Blackmoor material. It is interesting that none of the ZGG stuff AFAIK contradict my theory. The idea of using Hadeen is perfect! Did you have that in mind yourself when you wrote his entry? That this Peshwa god is responsible for the formation of the Valley which split the plains of Hak (and its inhabitants) in two works very well. > I think it works well and if it fits the needs of > your players, rock on! Yeah! My players is one of the main motivations for this change. Another is that I like making small modifications to the settings I use, simply to make them more "my own". I find that this makes it easier for me to improvise and not get too fixed on the written text which sometimes gets in the way of my storytelling. The trick then is to tie everything together, both the official material and my own stuff including both tweaks and completely new ideas. I am preparing for a new Blackmoor campaign now, though the preparations are still at a very early stage, but this theory has solved alot of my problems and even given me new ideas. Expect to hear more later! :) Håvard > > Dustin > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mystara RPG Discussion > [mailto:MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM] On Behalf > Of Havard Faanes > Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 10:26 AM > To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > Subject: [MYSTARA] Radience/Blackmoor alternative > theory > > I posted this on the ZGG forums, but since many of > you > probably aren't there, I thought Id post it here > aswell... > > Although I have from time to time been fascinated by > the sci fi elements of the City of the Gods, the > Federation, and the Beagle, it has always been clear > that my players would not respond favorably if I > ever > introduced such things in my campaigns. They prefer > a > more pure form of fantasy, although they would > accept > Steam Punk. > > So for a long time, I have been wondering if there > could be a way to work around that problem and still > get some use out of the DA series. And now, I think > I > have found it: > > The City of the Gods (Heresy version): > The thing that created the Valley of the Ancients > was > not a spaceship, it was in fact a Fallen God (or > Immortal, or Old One). For unknown reason, this > mighty > being fell, the impact of his body creating the > valley. > > The Beagle Crew (Heresy Version): > Captain Riesling and his crew still exist in this > version, but they are no longer aliens, simply a > Mercenary Company from Thonia, who sought to learn > the > secrets of the Valley of the Ancients. They were > known > as the Foxhound Company. Although none had > previously > returned from the Valley alive, the Foxhound Company > made it there. They found the gigantic petrified > body > of the God, almost completely buried in the sand. > The > body radiated with powerful magic in spite of the > God > being dead. The mercenaries were bewitched by the > magic, and decided to protect it from others who > might > befoul the dead God. The leader especially was > gradually going insane from these magics. The > Company > entered the body, through its wide open mouth. The > strongest magic radiated from his heart. A group > were > set to especially guard this part, among them > Rheddrian Benekander (see WotI). > > Meanwhile, Stephen Rocklin, Capt Riesling's second > in > command was planning a revolt against Riesling. He, > and a few others escaped into the swamps (as per > DA2). > There they befriended (not created) the Froglin and > joined the Cult of the Frog. Stephen eventually > became > High Priest of the Cult. > > Rather than technology, the City of the Gods (ie the > God) bestowed upon the company innate magical > powers. > These correspond to whatever technology the various > members posess. Some of it included technomancy, > which > will explain part of Blackmoors later rise in power, > tying it in with the Mystara timeline, although > there > are other sources of Tech aswell such as the Egg of > Coot and the Dwarves. > > The Radience is now transformed into the Heart of > the > God, instead of the Space Ships reactor. If the > Being > found in the Valley is in fact an Old One, that > would > help explain why the Old Ones would change it into > the > Nucleus of the Spheres at a later point aswell. Or > perhaps it already was becoming the Nucleus, > gradually, on its own, and was only moved by the Old > Ones (or Noumenna) to Glantri at a later point, > assuming Blackmoor is on Skothar. > > This will allow me to run the original modules more > or > less as is without involving space ships, lasers or > other stuff. What do you think? > > Comments? > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: > http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com > To unsubscribe, send email to > LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: > http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com > To unsubscribe, send email to > LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:33:20 EDT From: Alex Benson Subject: Re: Glantri Question <> Not strange, just typical of my form of detail checking. Being Glantri, I would have thought that either G: KoM or the gaz would have somethign on it. Then, natural progression for me have been Castle Amber and Mark of Amber. The truth be told I had forgotten all about the notation in Night Howlers. I had even planned on using that resource to flesh out a few lycanthrope NPCs for this project. However, that extent of detail wasn't needed and I settled on more generic werewolf stats. The Canine ties is more for background storyline than actual use. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 17:21:30 +0200 From: Altair IV Subject: Re: Glantri Question But you're right, Alex! You say "Werewolves in Glantri" and, as almost everybody else, you put your mind on "Glantri" first, and then frantically looked for something about licantropy. The problem is, to me "Glantri" is always in mind, so I put my mind on "Werewolves" first, and PC4 for was my main choice. It is the same as if I have to find something, let's say, on Geology schools in USA... I'm Italian, so maybe I start looking for everything I can find about USA, and than search for Schools, and down to the specific branch... If you are American, though, you probably put all your attention on Geology Schools, and start your search from this topic. Altair IV - the darkstar ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 11:25:46 -0400 From: Dustin Clingman Subject: Re: Vedr. Re: [MYSTARA] Radience/Blackmoor alternative theory "Thanks Dustin! I am definately using the current ZGG Blackmoor material. It is interesting that none of the ZGG stuff AFAIK contradict my theory. The idea of using Hadeen is perfect! Did you have that in mind yourself when you wrote his entry? " DC: Hadeen's fall has been shown in several incarnations in Dave Arneson's Blackmoor. There are a group of monks who witnessed the event and have changed their philosophy. There is some overlap in the events, but it wasn't the raw intent to identify Hadeen as the crash of the Beagle, just a strange coincidence. :) "I am preparing for a new Blackmoor campaign now, though the preparations are still at a very early stage, but this theory has solved alot of my problems and even given me new ideas." DC: Sounds great! Keep those dice rolling! Dustin ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 31 May 2005 to 1 Jun 2005 (#2005-116) ***************************************************************