Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 27 Jul 2005 to 28 Jul 2005 (#2005-147) From: Automatic digest processor Date: 29/07/2005, 17:00 To: Recipients of MYSTARA-L digests Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 3 messages totalling 150 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. RW Equivalents to Mystaran nations (was: point me to a site?) (LONG) 2. Optional Tactics for War Machine (2) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 07:24:02 +0000 From: adrian mattias Subject: Re: RW Equivalents to Mystaran nations (was: point me to a site?) (LONG) > From: Geoff Gander > > Thanks Adrian! This helps quite a bit. Good to hear from you again, > too. :-) Yes I have been firmly in lurk mode lately due to RW work comittments. There really needs to be a job that involves time to develop Mystara and lots of money : ) > I might repost an updated version later this week, time permitting. That would be great. > One thing I was considering adding to the list are other fan-created > nations (Zuyevo et al. are already there, so the others should be present > as well): > > Kaarjala Finland (the nomadic Vaarana would be Saami, aka Laplanders) > Littonia Baltic states (Litoniesu are Latvians, Lietuvans are > Lithuanians) > Taymora ?????? > Klagorst ?????? > > Any others?? You could also add Azganizband and the White Orcs of the North - another of my Western Brun projects which is on Shawn's site. When I wrote Azganizband (which was set in northern Borea) I modelled it on the Pashtun valley stronghold in Afghanistan that was at the time under siege by the Taliban (replaced in my writing by the snow orcs of Hyperborea). Of course that was before 9/11 but I had seen a documentary on the area under siege and it just struck me as an interesting concept for Mystara. > Geoff > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 07:33:01 +0000 From: adrian mattias Subject: Re: Optional Tactics for War Machine > From: The Stalker > Has anyone done or know of such optional tactics that fit into War Machine > without revision? As part of my development of the MyMiCS rules, I had put some plans together to substantially revise the tactics section because like you I had always been unhappy with them. Unfortunately these never advanced too far and I am not sure that I still have the rules. > And yes, I am aware of the MyMics rules (http://pandius.com/mymics.html), > but they only cover the initial calculation of BR and BFR, and does this > differently than War Machine rules, so I won't be using them, since I would > then have to revise the BRs given in PWA2 (though I am likely to let the > modifiers in step 1 be based MyMics' idea of (Leadership + Military Tactics > skills)/4 rather than Int+Wis+Cha adjustments, since it makes more sense to > me). It is good to see that they are of some value. When James and I developed them, it came about as a result of our unhappiness with the reality value of the Warmachine rules. I used them quite a lot IMC. The conversion should not be too difficult though for existing rules. The file on pandius also includes some comparison of Warmachine and MyMiCS BRs which have a relatively stable difference depending on quality of unit. YOu could thus modify warmachine stats and get a close approximation to units constructed under MyMiCS without having to go through the time consumung process of calculating the whole lot from scratch. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:18:18 -0700 From: The Stalker Subject: Re: Optional Tactics for War Machine On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 07:33:01 +0000, adrian mattias wrote: >> From: The Stalker >> Has anyone done or know of such optional tactics that fit into War Machine >> without revision? > > As part of my development of the MyMiCS rules, I had put some plans together > to substantially revise the tactics section because like you I had always > been unhappy with them. Well, I wouldn't say unhappy, just lacking - I mean, surely a commander has more than six options during a battle. There should be at least twice that. 30+ options might be over the top, but 15 is both low enough to remain comprehensible and yet give enough strategic potential to the battle shape. After all, looking at the current options, you'd choose Hold or Trap every time, since those comes with the fewest 'problems', especially Hold. And even if you take Hold and the opposition chooses Attack+, he will still suffer many casualties while you just lose some BR, which isn't a terrible tradeoff... > Unfortunately these never advanced too far and I am > not sure that I still have the rules. > A shame... >> And yes, I am aware of the MyMics rules (http://pandius.com/mymics.html), >> but they only cover the initial calculation of BR and BFR, and does this >> differently than War Machine rules, so I won't be using them, since I would >> then have to revise the BRs given in PWA2 (though I am likely to let the >> modifiers in step 1 be based MyMics' idea of (Leadership + Military Tactics >> skills)/4 rather than Int+Wis+Cha adjustments, since it makes more sense to >> me). > > It is good to see that they are of some value. When James and I developed > them, it came about as a result of our unhappiness with the reality value of > the Warmachine rules. I used them quite a lot IMC. The conversion should not > be too difficult though for existing rules. The file on pandius also > includes some comparison of Warmachine and MyMiCS BRs which have a > relatively stable difference depending on quality of unit. YOu could thus > modify warmachine stats and get a close approximation to units constructed > under MyMiCS without having to go through the time consumung process of > calculating the whole lot from scratch. > Perhaps, but I'm probably going to do the more convenient thing and use the numbers as is in PWA2 anyway. It's just easier, and if the numbers are the same anyway (and will be the same on either side, since it'll be dwarves vs. dwarves), it really doesn't matter so much, particularly not when the resolution mechanic remains the same. But in any event, thanks for the reply - I was beginning to think nobody would ever respond. - The Stalker ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 27 Jul 2005 to 28 Jul 2005 (#2005-147) ****************************************************************