Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 3 Mar 2005 to 4 Mar 2005 (#2005-51) From: Automatic digest processor Date: 05/03/2005, 19:00 To: Recipients of MYSTARA-L digests Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 14 messages totalling 673 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Mystara MUD (6) 2. D&D Units (7) 3. Mystara MUD server and building ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/vaults/default.aspx To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 08:51:34 -0000 From: Richard Subject: Re: Mystara MUD no probs - I got the Smaug server running on my machine yesterday so I was able to take a look round the basic setup. The MUD I build on (dimensons.org:9000) is basically a heavily modified version of Smaug/Merc/Diku so I'm in familiar territory. Its got some cool features that might lend themselves well to a Mystara based MUD - specifically that it seems to have the path of the Polymath built in! - I'll see if I can get in touch with the Imps and try to get a copy of their code modifications. Cheers Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angelo Bertolli" To: Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Mystara MUD > Thanks. > > BTW, the DNS service I used is being blocked right now... so the MUD > isn't working right now. > > > On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 08:54:06 -0000, Richard wrote: >> *de-lurk* >> >> I've got a little bit of experience of building in MUDs, in fact I'd been >> planning on looking into setting one up as well, but looks like you beat >> me >> to it. I'll log on later and take a look. >> >> If anyone is looking for a good MUD client I can recommend simplemu from >> http://simplemu.onlineroleplay.com >> >> Cheers >> >> Rick >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Angelo Bertolli" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 4:22 PM >> Subject: [MYSTARA] Mystara MUD >> >> >I have set up a MUD for Mystara on a machine in my house. It's on >> > about noon to 12 am each day (since it makes a lot of noise, and I >> > don't really want to sleep with it on). I hope to fix that >> > eventually, but I was wondering if anyone is interested in building >> > Mystara areas for the MUD. >> > >> > If you want to take a look at it, it's at >> > mystara.servegame.org port 4000 >> > >> > http://mystara.servegame.org/ >> > >> > ******************************************************************** >> > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp >> > The Mystara Homepage: >> > http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/vaults/default.aspx >> > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM >> > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. >> > >> > >> >> ******************************************************************** >> The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp >> The Mystara Homepage: http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/vaults/default.aspx >> To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM >> with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. >> > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/vaults/default.aspx > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 09:52:23 +0100 From: Giampaolo Agosta Subject: Re: D&D Units Angelo Bertolli wrote: > I was curious about all D&D players from countries that use the metric > system. Do you have different rulebooks that use the metric system, > or do you end up learning the US system? Translated rulebooks use the metric system, at least Italian AD&D and OD&D books do so. Bye, GP ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 04:14:43 -0800 From: "Ohad Shaham (Morphail)" Subject: Re: D&D Units I know that in some translated products (to languages other than English) the translator takes the time and converts to metric. It is usually only aproximate to keep things simple (3 feet= 1 meter, mile= 1.5 km, pound=0.500 grams) no need to be exact. It can get a bit tricky when you have three dimensional conversions (how one length change effects volume or mass). There was a whole metric conversion series of articles on Wizards.con Ohad --- Joe Mason wrote: > On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 04:27:31PM -0500, Gilles > Leblanc wrote: > > We end up learning the us system. At least here in > Canada anyway where > > we have to US books. > > "Miles" and such has a better atmosphere for a > fantasy campaign anyway. > > Joe > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: > http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: > http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/vaults/default.aspx > To unsubscribe, send email to > LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 13:03:04 -0000 From: Mark Howard Subject: Re: D&D Units -----Original Message----- From: Mystara RPG Discussion [mailto:MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM] On = Behalf Of Jon Cole Sent: 04 March 2005 07:49 To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] D&D Units > > US system? > > > > surely the "Imperial" system > > Exactly. Don't blame *us* for inventing it. Just blame > us for being too bullheaded to adopt a superior > system... even after the Brits themselves were smart > enough to move to metric. > > -Damon But some people still prefer the old money system, 1 l =3D 20 s =3D 240 = d ( and 1 guinea =3D 21 shillings, and the Florin was 2 shillings and you had 6 = pence coins)and didnt like decimilisation because it was too complicated oh and different countries had diferent lengths for a mile. Jon And we "Brits" never wanted to shift to metric anyway (in terms of = weights), was forced on us from outside not that long ago. But then again, = physics lesson are a lot easier in metric than imperial. =20 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/vaults/default.aspx To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 08:12:52 -0500 From: Gilles Leblanc Subject: Re: Mystara MUD I never dabbled in these things before but is the source code available ? If so in what languages is it written. Just out of curiosity since I work as a programmer myself. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 08:31:23 -0500 From: Gilles Leblanc Subject: Re: D&D Units Personnaly I think that the metric system makes a lot more sense. Everything is a multiple of 10 instead of a variable multiple ( ie. going from inches to feet to yards, etc. ). Also I find it more intuitive to have water freeze at 0 and boil at 100 in celcius degrees but maybe that's just my metric upbringing. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 13:57:39 -0000 From: Richard Subject: Re: Mystara MUD Hi Gilles, Smaug is written in C . I've not really messed around in the source code yet, as I'm more of a web programmer than a windows programmer, but I may give it a go at some point. You can download the source from http://www.gammon.com.au/files/smaug/smaug1.4a.sce.zip The windows binary is available here http://www.gammon.com.au/files/smaug/smaug1.4a.zip Apparently the source will compile fine with the Visual C++ 6.0 compiler but I've not tested it yet. Cheers Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilles Leblanc" To: Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Mystara MUD > I never dabbled in these things before but is the source code > available ? If so in what languages is it written. > > Just out of curiosity since I work as a programmer myself. > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/vaults/default.aspx > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 09:32:00 -0500 From: Gilles Leblanc Subject: Re: Mystara MUD I checked it up quickly there is a make file with some gcc stuff in it so I I should be able to work on it with gcc on Linux/Unix. I quickly checked on deity.c, combat.c and some other code files seems pretty readable. If I weren't involved in so many stuff I could have gave a hand. On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 13:57:39 -0000, Richard wrote: > Hi Gilles, > > Smaug is written in C . I've not really messed around in the source code > yet, as I'm more of a web programmer than a windows programmer, but I may > give it a go at some point. > > You can download the source from > http://www.gammon.com.au/files/smaug/smaug1.4a.sce.zip > > The windows binary is available here > http://www.gammon.com.au/files/smaug/smaug1.4a.zip > > Apparently the source will compile fine with the Visual C++ 6.0 compiler but > I've not tested it yet. > > Cheers > > Rick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gilles Leblanc" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 1:12 PM > Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Mystara MUD > > >I never dabbled in these things before but is the source code > > available ? If so in what languages is it written. > > > > Just out of curiosity since I work as a programmer myself. > > > > ******************************************************************** > > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/vaults/default.aspx > > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > > > > > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/vaults/default.aspx > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 09:58:45 -0500 From: Angelo Bertolli Subject: Re: D&D Units Thanks for the info... when I write new materials I will try to include both. Angelo On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 09:52:23 +0100, Giampaolo Agosta wrote: > Angelo Bertolli wrote: > > I was curious about all D&D players from countries that use the metric > > system. Do you have different rulebooks that use the metric system, > > or do you end up learning the US system? > > Translated rulebooks use the metric system, at least Italian AD&D and > OD&D books do so. > > Bye, > GP > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/vaults/default.aspx > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 09:59:00 -0500 From: Angelo Bertolli Subject: Re: Mystara MUD It's back up now. The one I'm using is SMAUG 1.02a that I've applied patches and some modifications to code-wise. On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 08:51:34 -0000, Richard wrote: > no probs - I got the Smaug server running on my machine yesterday so I was > able to take a look round the basic setup. The MUD I build on > (dimensons.org:9000) is basically a heavily modified version of > Smaug/Merc/Diku so I'm in familiar territory. Its got some cool features > that might lend themselves well to a Mystara based MUD - specifically that > it seems to have the path of the Polymath built in! - I'll see if I can get > in touch with the Imps and try to get a copy of their code modifications. > > Cheers > > Rick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Angelo Bertolli" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 4:52 PM > Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Mystara MUD > > > Thanks. > > > > BTW, the DNS service I used is being blocked right now... so the MUD > > isn't working right now. > > > > > > On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 08:54:06 -0000, Richard wrote: > >> *de-lurk* > >> > >> I've got a little bit of experience of building in MUDs, in fact I'd been > >> planning on looking into setting one up as well, but looks like you beat > >> me > >> to it. I'll log on later and take a look. > >> > >> If anyone is looking for a good MUD client I can recommend simplemu from > >> http://simplemu.onlineroleplay.com > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Rick > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Angelo Bertolli" > >> To: > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 4:22 PM > >> Subject: [MYSTARA] Mystara MUD > >> > >> >I have set up a MUD for Mystara on a machine in my house. It's on > >> > about noon to 12 am each day (since it makes a lot of noise, and I > >> > don't really want to sleep with it on). I hope to fix that > >> > eventually, but I was wondering if anyone is interested in building > >> > Mystara areas for the MUD. > >> > > >> > If you want to take a look at it, it's at > >> > mystara.servegame.org port 4000 > >> > > >> > http://mystara.servegame.org/ > >> > > >> > ******************************************************************** > >> > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > >> > The Mystara Homepage: > >> > http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/vaults/default.aspx > >> > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > >> > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > >> > > >> > > >> > >> ******************************************************************** > >> The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > >> The Mystara Homepage: http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/vaults/default.aspx > >> To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > >> with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > >> > > > > ******************************************************************** > > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/vaults/default.aspx > > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > > > > > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/vaults/default.aspx > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 10:00:59 -0500 From: Angelo Bertolli Subject: Re: Mystara MUD Wow, I tried connecting to it and you weren't kidding about it being heavily modified. On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 08:51:34 -0000, Richard wrote: > no probs - I got the Smaug server running on my machine yesterday so I was > able to take a look round the basic setup. The MUD I build on > (dimensons.org:9000) is basically a heavily modified version of > Smaug/Merc/Diku so I'm in familiar territory. Its got some cool features > that might lend themselves well to a Mystara based MUD - specifically that > it seems to have the path of the Polymath built in! - I'll see if I can get > in touch with the Imps and try to get a copy of their code modifications. > > Cheers > > Rick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Angelo Bertolli" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 4:52 PM > Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Mystara MUD > > > Thanks. > > > > BTW, the DNS service I used is being blocked right now... so the MUD > > isn't working right now. > > > > > > On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 08:54:06 -0000, Richard wrote: > >> *de-lurk* > >> > >> I've got a little bit of experience of building in MUDs, in fact I'd been > >> planning on looking into setting one up as well, but looks like you beat > >> me > >> to it. I'll log on later and take a look. > >> > >> If anyone is looking for a good MUD client I can recommend simplemu from > >> http://simplemu.onlineroleplay.com > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Rick > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Angelo Bertolli" > >> To: > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 4:22 PM > >> Subject: [MYSTARA] Mystara MUD > >> > >> >I have set up a MUD for Mystara on a machine in my house. It's on > >> > about noon to 12 am each day (since it makes a lot of noise, and I > >> > don't really want to sleep with it on). I hope to fix that > >> > eventually, but I was wondering if anyone is interested in building > >> > Mystara areas for the MUD. > >> > > >> > If you want to take a look at it, it's at > >> > mystara.servegame.org port 4000 > >> > > >> > http://mystara.servegame.org/ > >> > > >> > ******************************************************************** > >> > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > >> > The Mystara Homepage: > >> > http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/vaults/default.aspx > >> > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > >> > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > >> > > >> > > >> > >> ******************************************************************** > >> The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > >> The Mystara Homepage: http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/vaults/default.aspx > >> To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > >> with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > >> > > > > ******************************************************************** > > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/vaults/default.aspx > > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > > > > > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/vaults/default.aspx > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 14:24:06 -0600 From: Eric Anondson Subject: Re: D&D Units On Mar 3, 2005, at 9:10 PM, Brendan Corliss wrote: > --- Jon Cole wrote: > >> US system? >> >> surely the "Imperial" system > > Exactly. Don't blame *us* for inventing it. Just blame us for being > too bullheaded to adopt a superior system... even after the Brits > themselves were smart enough to move to metric. Well, the UK has surely not fully converted to metric. How do they order their beers in a pub? Pints. ;) Regards, Eric Anondson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 18:47:21 -0500 From: Angelo Bertolli Subject: Mystara MUD server and building I have the server back up and running from yesterday. I also updated the web page for those of you who aren't familiar with MUD's. http://mystara.servegame.org/ If anyone is interested in building their own personal adventure for the MUD, it would help if you played a little bit and got familiar with the game. I know it might be a long process, but it's probably good if you at least hit level 20 before trying to create your own areas. Angelo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 23:51:46 -0500 From: Dan Eustace Subject: Re: D&D Units No doubt! I work in science. But I still think more in gallons, pounds, feet, miles, degrees F etc., unless it involves work, and then it's degrees C, mL, g, and mm! It is not easily to shift between the two when you measure reagents in a metric graduated cylinder, and ingredients for a recipe in cups! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilles Leblanc" To: Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] D&D Units > Personnaly I think that the metric system makes a lot more sense. > Everything is a multiple of 10 instead of a variable multiple ( ie. > going from inches to feet to yards, etc. ). > > Also I find it more intuitive to have water freeze at 0 and boil at > 100 in celcius degrees but maybe that's just my metric upbringing. > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/vaults/default.aspx > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 3 Mar 2005 to 4 Mar 2005 (#2005-51) *************************************************************