Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 21 Apr 2005 to 22 Apr 2005 (#2005-79) From: Automatic digest processor Date: 23/04/2005, 17:00 To: Recipients of MYSTARA-L digests Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 7 messages totalling 224 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Introducing myself - Gilles Leblanc & Co 2. Hello! - Giampaolo (3) 3. Glantrians and Religion (3) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/vaults/default.aspx To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:13:01 +0200 From: Altair IV Subject: Re: Introducing myself - Gilles Leblanc & Co Hey, guys... I was joking, too! Better... I was just roleplaying! The only thing was, I had to be sure no one got offended... I don't know anyone of you, yet, so maybe I say something wrong unwillingly Altair IV - the Darkstar ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:41:48 +0200 From: Altair IV Subject: Re: Hello! - Giampaolo >> Mystara WAS big in Italy... unfortunately, new generation's Players do >> prefer Forgotten Realms, for it's easier to find material for the 3 or 3.5 >> edition... Mystara is just for ole dreamers like me (I'm 41) > Yes, but that's true even outside Italy... apparently, we tend to be in > the 25+ age range. > Still, in that age range Mystara is much more popular than other > (1e/2e/OD&D) settings in our country. That is! And I guess you're even too optimistic... I do know as many as 40 ialian DMs, and only three of them still set their Campaigns in Mystara... the youngest of them is 32, but I began playing D&D when he hardly knew how to stand and walk... the second is 38 and the third (that is, my DM) is 40... most younger DMs choose FR, others do prefer Dragonlance... a few of them now tries stranger settings, as Darksun or Ravenloft, and a few has built their own settings... Altair IV - the Darkstar ps whereabouts in Italy do you live? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:07:13 +0200 From: Altair IV Subject: Glantrians and Religion I was born in Glantri, and the idea that Religion is something wrong and forbidden is part of my DNA. In about thirty years of life, though, I haven't understood the reason why. So, I'd like to know your wise and accoltured opinion. Is it just the old quarrel between reason and faith? Between natural and supernatural? Or is it simply a struggle for Power? I mean, both Magicians and Clerics are fond of Power, and may be rivals to each other for controlling it? Or is Magic, in a way, a God itself, jealous of its own worshippers? Or something else that I can hardly imagine? Tell me, what do you think about it? Altair IV - the Darkstar ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:12:03 +0200 From: Giampaolo Agosta Subject: Re: Hello! - Giampaolo Altair IV wrote: > > That is! And I guess you're even too optimistic... I do know as many as 40 > ialian DMs, and only three of them still set their Campaigns in Mystara... > the youngest of them is 32, but I began playing D&D when he hardly knew how > to stand and walk... the second is 38 and the third (that is, my DM) is > 40... most younger DMs choose FR, others do prefer Dragonlance... a few of > them now tries stranger settings, as Darksun or Ravenloft, and a few has > built their own settings... Uhm, I know at least 8 Italian DMs (ok, most of them I knew here or in the Italian Mystaran message board) who use Mystara, ranging from mid-twenties to mid-thirties. I myself am 29. I too try other settings from time to time (Ravenloft, for example), but Mystara is still my "core" setting :) > ps whereabouts in Italy do you live? Milano. And you? Bye, GP ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:20:30 +0200 From: Altair IV Subject: Re: Hello! - Giampaolo > Uhm, I know at least 8 Italian DMs (ok, most of them I knew here or in > the Italian Mystaran message board) who use Mystara, ranging from > mid-twenties to mid-thirties. ROTFL! I doesn't seem what I should call a "good statistical base", does it? It's like to go into a Robert de Niro fan club and ask who is the best actor... :DDD In any case, my source is a number of ML and community, in Italy, dealing with RolePlaying in general, so maybe is a bit more... representative, isn't it? Altair IV - the Darkstar ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:03:17 -0700 From: Daniel Gioffre Subject: Re: Glantrians and Religion Excellent question. My reading of the canon material leads me not to characterize the Glantrian religious issue as some kind of modernist rejection of the transcendent. It rather seems to indicate that the Glantrians do not worship the Immortals because they are simply not awed by their power (they view them kind of like "big brothers", not qualitatively different than themselves). The pride in their own magic leads them to reject the authority of the Immortals rather than denying their existence (how else can we understand the government's grudging concession to allow clerics within their borders to help stop the post-WOTI plague?). Plus, the "worship" of magic provides a wonderful rationale for mage/elvish political domination of the nation! -Dan --- Altair IV wrote: > I was born in Glantri, and the idea that Religion is > something wrong and > forbidden is part of my DNA. In about thirty years > of life, though, I > haven't understood the reason why. So, I'd like to > know your wise and > accoltured opinion. > > Is it just the old quarrel between reason and faith? > Between natural and > supernatural? > > Or is it simply a struggle for Power? I mean, both > Magicians and Clerics are > fond of Power, and may be rivals to each other for > controlling it? > > Or is Magic, in a way, a God itself, jealous of its > own worshippers? > > Or something else that I can hardly imagine? > > Tell me, what do you think about it? > > Altair IV - the Darkstar > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: > http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: > http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/vaults/default.aspx > To unsubscribe, send email to > LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 20:58:17 +0200 From: Giampaolo Agosta Subject: Re: Glantrians and Religion Daniel Gioffre ha scritto: > > The pride in their own > magic leads them to reject the authority of the > Immortals rather than denying their existence Indeed -- in a world where it is quite easy to prove the existance of the Immortals (quite simply, you can ask them ;) ) atheism can still exist, in the sense that Immortals (or Powers, Old Ones, etc.) are not considered worthy of worship. GP ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 21 Apr 2005 to 22 Apr 2005 (#2005-79) ***************************************************************