Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 16 Dec 2006 to 17 Dec 2006 (#2006-189) From: MYSTARA-L automatic digest system Date: 18/12/2006, 19:00 To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 2 messages totalling 88 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Flaems, Cypri and True Alphatians (2) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 19:33:39 +0200 From: Ville V Lahde Subject: Re: Flaems, Cypri and True Alphatians I did some work on this a year ago and ended up with something like this: The original Cypri were a distinct people that were conquered by the =20 growing Alphatian empire. At that time it seems that the Alphatian empire was mostly populated =20 by "True Alphatians", although we might speculate that they had =20 already conquered various peoples who had been integrated to the =20 empire. So the True Alphatians would have been an inbred elite ruling =20 class, a bit like the royal Melniboneans in Moorcock stories. (But =20 this is just speculation.) Anyhow, after the submission of the Cypri people they were slowly =20 integrated into the Alphatian population, bringing their features to =20 the "Common Alphatian" stock. Also the elite status of the "True =20 Alphatians" seems to have diminished. During the subsequent generations it seems that the puristic True =20 Alphatian sect remained, and the leaders of the Followers of Air rose =20 from their ranks. But it is likely that there were followers from many =20 other groups as well. The Followers of Fire most likely were just as diverse, but perhaps =20 their leading cadres had some families that had remained more =20 Cypri-like, perhaps due to similar puristic attitudes as with the True =20 Alphatians. When Old Aphatia was devastated by the elemental strife, the Followers =20 of Fire abandoned their enemies to the wasteland and left - ending up =20 in Mystara. In Mystaran Alphatia we again meet the concept "True =20 Alphatian". It is likely that the leaders of the Air faction also led =20 the migration, and thus regained some of their elite status. Some of the Followers of Fire - who had abandoned Alphaks's teachings =20 - left Old Alphatia later, and they embarked on a long exodus via the =20 Plane of Fire. Again it seems likely that the puristic Cyprite =20 families led this exodus, which might explain the strong Cypri traits =20 of the Flaem who arrived in present-day Glantri. I'm not sure if genasi blood (or some other equivalent, depending on =20 the game system) would be likely in the case of the True Alphatians. =20 But in the case of the Flaem it is more than likely. Ville ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:33:54 -0400 From: Steven Carter Subject: Re: Flaems, Cypri and True Alphatians Except (1) Ochaleans mostly eschew (PWA1014 I think) or are otherwise incapable of (DotE) arcane magic and (2) don't have any cultural resemblance to Alphatians (DotE). On 16/12/06, Giampaolo Agosta wrote: > > On 16/12/06, Havard Faanes wrote: > > I'm still not clear on these three groups. From what I > > understand the Flaems left prior to the confrontation > > Another mostly-Cypri nation is Ochalea. > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 16 Dec 2006 to 17 Dec 2006 (#2006-189) ****************************************************************