Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 19 Dec 2006 to 20 Dec 2006 (#2006-192) From: MYSTARA-L automatic digest system Date: 21/12/2006, 19:00 To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 15 messages totalling 902 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Dungeon #143: The Savage Tide (11) 2. Flaems, Cypri and True Alphatians 3. Vedr. Re: [MYSTARA] Dungeon #143: The Savage Tide (3) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:54:33 +0000 From: Joao Cartaxo Subject: Re: Dungeon #143: The Savage Tide > From: Andrew Theisen > Reply-To: Mystara RPG Discussion > To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > Subject: [MYSTARA] Dungeon #143: The Savage Tide > Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 14:43:47 -0800 > > Originally posted by Alzrius over at the ENWorld boards: > > >Tides of Dread, by Stephen S. Greer and Gary Holian - The Savage Tide continues! In this adventure for 9th-level characters, the PCs finally arrive at Farshore, on the Isle of Dread, only to find it under attack by pirates! Defeating the raiders is a short-lived victory, as they find that was only a scouting party for a much bigger fleet of pirates who will arrive soon. Now, the PCs must shore up Farshore, recruit allies among the native Olmans and phanatons, repair the Sea Wyvern, and recover caches of weapons from the Isle's extinct rakasta population. If the PCs do this, they might amass enough resources to repel the invaders, who are led by none other than a recently-transformed Vanthus Vanderboren! Appendices cover the tooth of Ahazu, one of the Teeth of Dahlver-Nar, and the new monster, the Aspect of Zotzilaha. Sidebars cover switching sides, recruiting dinosaurs, Zotzilaha lore, victory points, the lemorian half-fiend, scaling the adventure, and full stats for the > allosaurus, ankylosaurus, dimetrodon, diplodocus, parasaurolophus, pteranodon, and stegosaurus. > > > > It looks like the Rakasta of the Isle of Dawn are going to be taken into account somewhat after all... wonder what wiped them out? Darn genocidal humans and/or kopru! > Huumm... I still wonder WHY they didn't convert the rakastas to the 3.5 edition..I was about to get this path but this lame excuse not to include the rakasta... Man extinct!!!! It's even worse then not have them at all!! ;) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail, o maior webmail do Brasil. http://www.hotmail.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:26:21 +0100 From: Havard Faanes Subject: Re: Flaems, Cypri and True Alphatians Thanks for your replies and clarifications on this problem, all of you who have participated in this thread. I actually kinda liked the idea of the Flaems coming to Mystara through that Ierendi Vulcano, but I guess it is hard to reconcile with some sources. Alphatian ethicities are a bit of a mess aren't they. Where do the Betharians and Gammarians and those folks from M1 fit into all of this? Havard _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:29:36 +0100 From: Havard Faanes Subject: Re: Dungeon #143: The Savage Tide --- Joao Cartaxo wrote: > Huumm... I still wonder WHY they didn't convert the > rakastas to the 3.5 edition..I was about to get this path but this lame > excuse not to include the rakasta... > Man extinct!!!! It's even worse then not have them > at all!! > > ;) I think the Rakasta inclusion was meant as a nod to us Mystara fans rather than the other way around actually. I think this could be an interesting storyline. As I proposed on the WotC boards, X1 could be set in AC1000 and Savage Tide around AC1010, which would give us some room to figure out what has happened in the 10 years in between that would have lead to the changes we are seeing such as the Rakasta having been wiped out. Another question is how the Rakasta got there in the first place? Were they emigrants from Ochalea? Havard _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:46:15 -0400 From: Steven Carter Subject: Re: Dungeon #143: The Savage Tide How am I to understand this thread? The rakasta of the Isle of Dread are now extinct in the Savage Tide adventure path? Or someone is saying all rakasta in Mystara are extinct? Answers depend upon where you are placing the Isle of Dread in Mystara. I was contemplating putting a second Isle of Dread down the east coast of Davania. Would require a new map for the island but not too great a challenge. Or use a new map for the old Isle. On 20/12/06, Havard Faanes wrote: > --- Joao Cartaxo wrote: > > > Huumm... I still wonder WHY they didn't convert the > > rakastas to the 3.5 > > edition..I was about to get this path but this lame > > excuse not to include > > the rakasta... > > Man extinct!!!! It's even worse then not have them > > at all!! > > > > ;) > > I think the Rakasta inclusion was meant as a nod to us > Mystara fans rather than the other way around > actually. I think this could be an interesting > storyline. As I proposed on the WotC boards, X1 could > be set in AC1000 and Savage Tide around AC1010, which > would give us some room to figure out what has > happened in the 10 years in between that would have > lead to the changes we are seeing such as the Rakasta > having been wiped out. > > Another question is how the Rakasta got there in the > first place? Were they emigrants from Ochalea? > > Havard > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Alt i =E9n. F=E5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og > notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:57:06 +0100 From: Giampaolo Agosta Subject: Re: Dungeon #143: The Savage Tide On 20/12/06, Steven Carter wrote: > How am I to understand this thread? The rakasta of the Isle of Dread > are now extinct in the Savage Tide adventure path? Or > someone is saying all rakasta in Mystara are extinct? The Savage Tide is set in Greyhawk -- we may assume that the Rakasta are extinct in Greyhawk, at most ;) GP ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:03:15 +0100 From: Giampaolo Agosta Subject: Re: Dungeon #143: The Savage Tide On 20/12/06, Havard Faanes wrote: > > Another question is how the Rakasta got there in the > first place? Were they emigrants from Ochalea? That's possible. Actually, the IoDread is on a possible migratory route for the Rakasta, either from Davania or from Ochalea. Since the IoDread Rakasta are pretty generic (alley cat Rakasta or the like), I'd say they came from Ochalea (Davanian Rakasta are more closely characterized as belonging to specific breeds). BTW, "Rakasta of Mystara" is pretty clear on the fact that (Mystaran) Rakasta were created by Ka from a human shaman (Kumrah) and his cat familiar (Bastet), and from a number of great cats, not from Lycanthropes (who did not exist at the time, most likely). GP ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:42:51 +0100 From: Havard Faanes Subject: Re: Dungeon #143: The Savage Tide As GP points out, the STAP is set on Greyhawk, so we can pick and chose what we want from it if we want to use it on Mystara. My idea was to follow the STAP description of the Isle of Dread pretty closely, though it would be set around AC1010, so differences between X1 and STAP would be explained by changes occuring during WotI. Having a second Isle of Dread as you suggest is certainly possible, though IMO not really neccesary. My understanding was that the Rakasta of the Isle of Dread would now be extinct by AC1010, though the general Rakasta population of Mystara would be unaffected by this. Havard --- Steven Carter skrev: > How am I to understand this thread? The rakasta of > the Isle of Dread > are now extinct in the Savage Tide adventure path? Or > someone is saying all rakasta in Mystara are > extinct? > > Answers depend upon where you are placing the Isle > of Dread in > Mystara. I was contemplating putting a second Isle > of Dread down the > east coast of Davania. Would require a new map for > the island but not > too great a challenge. Or use a new map for the old > Isle. > > > > On 20/12/06, Havard Faanes > wrote: > > --- Joao Cartaxo wrote: > > > > > Huumm... I still wonder WHY they didn't convert > the > > > rakastas to the 3.5 > > > edition..I was about to get this path but this > lame > > > excuse not to include > > > the rakasta... > > > Man extinct!!!! It's even worse then not have > them > > > at all!! > > > > > > ;) > > > > I think the Rakasta inclusion was meant as a nod > to us > > Mystara fans rather than the other way around > > actually. I think this could be an interesting > > storyline. As I proposed on the WotC boards, X1 > could > > be set in AC1000 and Savage Tide around AC1010, > which > > would give us some room to figure out what has > > happened in the 10 years in between that would > have > > lead to the changes we are seeing such as the > Rakasta > > having been wiped out. > > > > Another question is how the Rakasta got there in > the > > first place? Were they emigrants from Ochalea? > > > > Havard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Alt i én. Få Yahoo! 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Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:47:57 +0100 From: Havard Faanes Subject: Vedr. Re: [MYSTARA] Dungeon #143: The Savage Tide --- Giampaolo Agosta skrev: > > BTW, "Rakasta of Mystara" is pretty clear on the > fact that (Mystaran) > Rakasta were created by Ka from a human shaman > (Kumrah) and his cat > familiar (Bastet), and from a number of great cats, > not from > Lycanthropes (who did not exist at the time, most > likely). Yeah, I didn't care much for the Lycanthopy descended Rakasta theory either. I liked Cthulhudrew's suggestion from the WotC boards that this was simply how the natives of the Isle of Dread explained the existance of Rakasta. OTOH, I am willing to reconsider this when I find out more about these skinwalkers which will be detailed in Dungeon #145 which supposedly also will be connected to this creation theory. Ofcourse, I am also not opposed to the idea of multiple creation points for various races of Mystara. The Voyage of the Princess Ark has one theory for explaining the existance of Gator men which contradicts there being Gator Men at the time of Blackmoor unless the Gator Men were created several times in Mystaran history for instance... Havard _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:37:03 -0000 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Cartaxo?= Subject: Re: Dungeon #143: The Savage Tide Hi! By the same token, phanatons who are also from Mystara were converted and are used in a Greyhawk adventure... The rakastan mystery still endures... ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Giampaolo Agosta" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Dungeon #143: The Savage Tide > On 20/12/06, Steven Carter wrote: >> How am I to understand this thread? The rakasta of the Isle of Dread >> are now extinct in the Savage Tide adventure path? Or >> someone is saying all rakasta in Mystara are extinct? > > The Savage Tide is set in Greyhawk -- we may assume that the Rakasta > are extinct in Greyhawk, at most ;) > > GP > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 21:45:45 +0100 From: Havard Faanes Subject: Re: Dungeon #143: The Savage Tide According to some of the paizo people who frequent the WotC Mystara boards, they were specifically not allowed to convert the Rakasta by WotC. Why is a mystery as you say, but the popular theory is that they want people to use the Cat Folk from the Miniatures book. Havard --- João Cartaxo skrev: > Hi! > > By the same token, phanatons who are also from > Mystara were converted and are used in a Greyhawk adventure... > The rakastan mystery still endures... > > ;) > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Giampaolo Agosta" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 6:57 PM > Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Dungeon #143: The Savage Tide > > > > On 20/12/06, Steven Carter > wrote: > >> How am I to understand this thread? The rakasta > of the Isle of Dread > >> are now extinct in the Savage Tide adventure > path? Or > >> someone is saying all rakasta in Mystara are > extinct? > > > > The Savage Tide is set in Greyhawk -- we may > assume that the Rakasta > > are extinct in Greyhawk, at most ;) > > > > GP > > > > > ******************************************************************** > > The Other Worlds Homepage: > http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com > > To unsubscribe, send email to > LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: > http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com > To unsubscribe, send email to > LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 22:00:22 -0000 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Cartaxo?= Subject: Re: Dungeon #143: The Savage Tide Hi! I'm aware of that, i'm Goldrak from the WotC Mystara boards. I'm just spreading the seed... Cat folk are not Rakastas!! hehehe ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Havard Faanes" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Dungeon #143: The Savage Tide > According to some of the paizo people who frequent the > WotC Mystara boards, they were specifically not > allowed to convert the Rakasta by WotC. > > Why is a mystery as you say, but the popular theory is > that they want people to use the Cat Folk from the > Miniatures book. > > Havard > > > --- João Cartaxo skrev: > >> Hi! >> >> By the same token, phanatons who are also from >> Mystara were converted and >> are used in a Greyhawk adventure... >> The rakastan mystery still endures... >> >> ;) >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Giampaolo Agosta" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 6:57 PM >> Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Dungeon #143: The Savage Tide >> >> >> > On 20/12/06, Steven Carter >> wrote: >> >> How am I to understand this thread? The rakasta >> of the Isle of Dread >> >> are now extinct in the Savage Tide adventure >> path? Or >> >> someone is saying all rakasta in Mystara are >> extinct? >> > >> > The Savage Tide is set in Greyhawk -- we may >> assume that the Rakasta >> > are extinct in Greyhawk, at most ;) >> > >> > GP >> > >> > >> > ******************************************************************** >> > The Other Worlds Homepage: >> http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp >> > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com >> > To unsubscribe, send email to >> LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM >> > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. >> > >> >> > ******************************************************************** >> The Other Worlds Homepage: >> http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp >> The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com >> To unsubscribe, send email to >> LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM >> with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. >> > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og > notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:40:38 +0100 From: Giampaolo Agosta Subject: Re: Vedr. Re: [MYSTARA] Dungeon #143: The Savage Tide On 20/12/06, Havard Faanes wrote: > > OTOH, I am willing to reconsider this when I find out > more about these skinwalkers which will be detailed in > Dungeon #145 which supposedly also will be connected > to this creation theory. I suppose skinwalkers will just be talisman-lycanthropes (humans who shapechange by donning an animal skin). > Ofcourse, I am also not opposed to the idea of > multiple creation points for various races of Mystara. > The Voyage of the Princess Ark has one theory for > explaining the existance of Gator men which > contradicts there being Gator Men at the time of > Blackmoor unless the Gator Men were created several > times in Mystaran history for instance... Well, the Blackmoor races are a bit of an exception, as they are known to be incompatible with Mystara proper. Also, some races might have been recreated after they became extinct in the GRoF. But for the Rakasta, it seems a bit odd to have them created twice, and the second time when they were already around in the area (by the time any Tanagoro group can reach the Isle of Dread, Rakasta are quite likely already spread in the neighbouring regions). GP ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:53:57 -0800 From: "Kelly, Joe" Subject: Re: Vedr. Re: [MYSTARA] Dungeon #143: The Savage Tide For my campaign I'm going to fit it in by this: The Rakasta who are well known for it's warrior castes had colonists there, but were wiped out. Bellayne of course doesn't deny colonists were sent there, but are quiet on the current status or whereabouts of said colonists...Rumors of course say they were wiped out, by what no one knows, lending support for the islands and the stories of the region.=20 JKWolf -----Original Message----- From: Mystara RPG Discussion [mailto:MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM] On Behalf Of Giampaolo Agosta Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 2:41 PM To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Vedr. Re: [MYSTARA] Dungeon #143: The Savage Tide On 20/12/06, Havard Faanes wrote: > > OTOH, I am willing to reconsider this when I find out more about these > skinwalkers which will be detailed in Dungeon #145 which supposedly=20 > also will be connected to this creation theory. I suppose skinwalkers will just be talisman-lycanthropes (humans who shapechange by donning an animal skin). > Ofcourse, I am also not opposed to the idea of multiple creation=20 > points for various races of Mystara. > The Voyage of the Princess Ark has one theory for explaining the=20 > existance of Gator men which contradicts there being Gator Men at the=20= > time of Blackmoor unless the Gator Men were created several times in=20= > Mystaran history for instance... Well, the Blackmoor races are a bit of an exception, as they are known to be incompatible with Mystara proper. Also, some races might have been recreated after they became extinct in the GRoF. But for the Rakasta, it seems a bit odd to have them created twice, and the second time when they were already around in the area (by the time any Tanagoro group can reach the Isle of Dread, Rakasta are quite likely already spread in the neighbouring regions). GP ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. This e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and may be privileged If you are not the intended recipient please notify me immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and do not copy, use or disclose it. Please advise us if you do not want to receive unencrypted e-mails. =20 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:09:06 -0800 From: Andrew Theisen Subject: Re: Dungeon #143: The Savage Tide Alzrius clarified his post about the Rakasta extinction later in that thread on ENWorld, saying that it was believed some rakasta may have escaped, and may still exist on the IoD, but that their major culture center had been rendered extinct- which would fit with the rakasta as depicted in X1, who are shown as nomadic groups, and not really having any major population centers on the island (IIRC, anyway. I don't remember offhand how many are in the tribal camp that is one of the main encounters with them). ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:12:57 -0800 From: "Kelly, Joe" Subject: Re: Dungeon #143: The Savage Tide If some had escaped, then some would have tales to tell of what they saw there.... JKWolf=20 -----Original Message----- From: Mystara RPG Discussion [mailto:MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM] On Behalf Of Andrew Theisen Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 3:09 PM To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Dungeon #143: The Savage Tide Alzrius clarified his post about the Rakasta extinction later in that thread on ENWorld, saying that it was believed some rakasta may have escaped, and may still exist on the IoD, but that their major culture center had been rendered extinct- which would fit with the rakasta as depicted in X1, who are shown as nomadic groups, and not really having any major population centers on the island (IIRC, anyway. I don't remember offhand how many are in the tribal camp that is one of the main encounters with them). ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. This e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and may be privileged If you are not the intended recipient please notify me immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and do not copy, use or disclose it. 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