Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 6 Apr 2006 to 7 Apr 2006 (#2006-65) From: MYSTARA-L automatic digest system Date: 08/04/2006, 17:00 To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 7 messages totalling 326 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Not on the WotC Board? (4) 2. A couple of questions (3) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 09:04:01 -0300 From: Steven Carter Subject: Re: Not on the WotC Board? E-mail at work doesn't look as "recreational" when someone looks over your shoulder from the cubicle "door" as, say, pictures of dragons, monsters and a big ol' banner proclaiming D&D. ;) Which would be why I'm usually only on the MML. On 07/04/06, Thorfinn Tait wrote: > > > I once proposed to unify, burt someone said we msut keep the > > board alive to show WotC we WANT Mystara alive. But I think > > we do that by using this maliing list as well (since it is > > also WotC-based). > > > > Vini > > It's not just that - I think the reason people use one or the other latel= y > is also a practical one. Some people can't access the Internet while at > work, while others (like me) can't access e-mail while at work. > > It seems that a lot of us do most of our reading and posting from > work. :-D > > But I don't think it's a bad thing to have both, especially since many of > the most frequent posters frequent both places. > > Thorf > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 09:32:43 -0300 From: Steven Carter Subject: Re: A couple of questions Well, I cast my vote for "The Hollow World" as the official name. ;) On the other hand I like both Zorandar and Atvatabar as names that one culture or another would use to describe their world. They are close enough, to this layman's ears/eyes, to be variants of the same thing in different languages. Look at our planet. What's the real name for it? Earth. Terra. Tellus. Telluria. Gaia. Aerda. La Terre. Ertha. Eraze. Erez. Eorde. Or some planet called ee-ahrth. Sure most of those are just various linguistic translations of the same thing but which one is the real one? We know that the people in the Known World call their world Mystara. Lovel= y name. Probably pretty old. Probably lots of variations amongst the languages. But does Mystara mean "the world", "dirt/ground", or is it the name of some anthropomorphized demiurge that animates the planet? Is it a combination of Mystical/Mystery + Terra/Tara. Just trying to muddy the waters. ;) On 06/04/06, Richard B. wrote: > > I got to thinking about this and, if we can give the > Hollow World an official proper name, then I would > have to cast my vote for "Zorandar", the name of Aaron > Allston's Lost World from his superb "Lands of > Mystery" supplement for the old Justice Inc. game. > > Incidentally, Lands of Mystery was a vastly more > successful attempt at presenting a Lost World setting > and is recommended to anyone gaming in the Hollow > World. My other suggestion would be "Atvatabar", from > what I believe is the first book featuring a hollow > world setting, "The Goddess of Atvatabar Being the > History of the Discovery of the Interior World and > Conquest of Atvatabar" (whew!) > > So, anyone wanna second "Zorandar"? "Atvatabar"? > > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:13:14 -0400 From: Sheldon Morris Subject: Re: Not on the WotC Board? I for one read all the posts here on the MML even though I normally don't post. I don't have internet access at work, yet ;) , and I find the format of the forums very easy to work with and more appealing. I know the MML has little periods of quietness but overall both places have significant enough traffic to justify each. As with Mystara itself, variety is a strength, since discussions can be done with both forum and email. Sheldon Thorfinn Tait wrote:But I don't think it's a bad thing to have both, especially since many of the most frequent posters frequent both places. Thorf ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. --------------------------------- Share your photos with the people who matter at Yahoo! Canada Photos ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:44:01 -0700 From: "Richard B." Subject: Re: A couple of questions Initially I considered whatever might be Early Man's (or Elf's or whoever was first) word for the world and "evolve the word from there- which I still think is a valid consideration. But, then I remembered Lands of Mystery and Zorandar seemed like as good a name as any, plus it keeps it in the family, so to speak. Atvatabar was just a tip o' the hat to the first "hollow world", although I think it counts as more sci-fi than fantasy, but I digress... You bring up a very good point about the different names for the Bowels of Mystara and I think different names in different countries is a dandy idea. However, I think that the most used name should come from whichever nation is the most dominant and right off hand I don't know who that is. Later, R. Steven Carter wrote: Well, I cast my vote for "The Hollow World" as the official name. ;) On the other hand I like both Zorandar and Atvatabar as names that one culture or another would use to describe their world. They are close enough, to this layman's ears/eyes, to be variants of the same thing in different languages. Look at our planet. What's the real name for it? Earth. Terra. Tellus. Telluria. Gaia. Aerda. La Terre. Ertha. Eraze. Erez. Eorde. Or some planet called ee-ahrth. Sure most of those are just various linguistic translations of the same thing but which one is the real one? We know that the people in the Known World call their world Mystara. Lovely name. Probably pretty old. Probably lots of variations amongst the languages. But does Mystara mean "the world", "dirt/ground", or is it the name of some anthropomorphized demiurge that animates the planet? Is it a combination of Mystical/Mystery + Terra/Tara. Just trying to muddy the waters. ;) On 06/04/06, Richard B. wrote: > > I got to thinking about this and, if we can give the > Hollow World an official proper name, then I would > have to cast my vote for "Zorandar", the name of Aaron > Allston's Lost World from his superb "Lands of > Mystery" supplement for the old Justice Inc. game. > > Incidentally, Lands of Mystery was a vastly more > successful attempt at presenting a Lost World setting > and is recommended to anyone gaming in the Hollow > World. My other suggestion would be "Atvatabar", from > what I believe is the first book featuring a hollow > world setting, "The Goddess of Atvatabar Being the > History of the Discovery of the Interior World and > Conquest of Atvatabar" (whew!) > > So, anyone wanna second "Zorandar"? "Atvatabar"? > > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:45:43 +0100 From: Mortus Subject: Re: Not on the WotC Board? I'm only here, in serious lurk mode. barely get time to check e-mail. Mortus. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Havard Faanes" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 6:17 PM Subject: [MYSTARA] Not on the WotC Board? > I'm curious... > how many people here are not on the WotC boards at > all? > > Seems like it is hard to keep both places alive these > days, but I'd be sad to see this place die > completely... > > Håvard > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > > > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 16:16:22 -0500 From: Daniel Subject: Re: A couple of questions hehe....Lands of Mystery was a book Alston wrote for Hero Games back in the 80s that detailed Hidden/Lost Worlds. Richard B. wrote: > Initially I considered whatever might be Early Man's (or Elf's or whoever was first) word for the world and "evolve the word from there- which I still think is a valid consideration. But, then I remembered Lands of Mystery and Zorandar seemed like as good a name as any, plus it keeps it in the family, so to speak. Atvatabar was just a tip o' the hat to the first "hollow world", although I think it counts as more sci-fi than fantasy, but I digress... ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 21:59:35 -0300 From: "Vinicius R. de Moraes - USP Solar" Subject: Re: Not on the WotC Board? At 15:13 7/4/2006, you wrote: > I for one read all the posts here on the MML even though I normally don't post. I don't have internet access at work, yet ;) , and I find the format of the forums very easy to work with and more appealing. Does it have a repository of msgs (where you can access old msgs, do advanced searches etc)? > I know the MML has little periods of quietness but overall both places have significant enough traffic to justify each. As with Mystara itself, variety is a strength, since discussions can be done with both forum and email. > > Sheldon I agree. I only wish I remembered to check the forum. E-mail just arrives here... ;-) Vini > Thorfinn Tait wrote:But I don't think it's a bad thing to have both, especially since many of > the most frequent posters frequent both places. > > Thorf ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 6 Apr 2006 to 7 Apr 2006 (#2006-65) *************************************************************