Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 19 Apr 2006 to 20 Apr 2006 (#2006-74) From: MYSTARA-L automatic digest system Date: 21/04/2006, 17:00 To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 9 messages totalling 560 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Sneak Peek and Italian vacation (3) 2. Claw (Was: Re: [MYSTARA] Anyone do Red Steel?) (3) 3. Mystara & Ravenloft (2) 4. Tome of Magic ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:38:08 -0700 From: "Ohad Shaham (Morphail)" Subject: Sneak Peek and Italian vacation Hello Mystarans! Time for my yearly mail :-( It seems I am almost never here, what with real life and all. The only RPG i am doing is scheming through d20 products, Dragon mags and Wizards.com. I noticed some of you (Vini?) were discussing a chat based game. It sounds like a possible way for me to make a comeback, so if anything begins I want in. Another thing- I am going to Italy on business in May. I plan to spend a week or two in Pisa and Fiorenze (Florence), and flying through Milan. As all my Italian acquaintances are through this list, I was wondering if any of you would like to meet in said cities for a cop of coffee (I'm buying...). BTW, to those of you that read through Tome of Magic, its a shame they didn't mention Glantrian Cryptomancy and Illusionism as sources for True Names and Shadow Magic. Ohad aka Morphail __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 05:37:26 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C1tila_Pires_dos_Santos?= Subject: Re: Claw (Was: Re: [MYSTARA] Anyone do Red Steel?) Now i'm really convinced, the guy that created Claw must really like Red Steel. I just discovered Pistoleros lupin in the game! They're small, with long snout, agile and uses pistols! XD By the way, as I said before, everything fits so perfectly (except the part of the "spanish armada" or "spanish crown") that now i believe that this can't be just coincidence. Even the suposed "spanish dog-people" look more french (specially the ones that can be seen in the first part in the playable demo at the official homepage) or generic pirate/bandit (like the Pistolero and Torreoner Pit-Bull); the rakasta is aways english. And, in th= e end, Bastet appears(despite the fact she said another name... Princess Nora= , i believe... but this Immortals aways uses fake names, specially when tryin= g to create new cults, hehe) I can't help thinking that Puerto del Lobo is just an Ispan/Espa colony nex= t to lupin possetion and now under Renardy rule, or a part of Renardy with another name (just like "spanish armada" is "renardie armada" with another name) Well... it's not every day that you find an game that makes you feel that you're actually at the Savage Coast =3D) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:27:12 +0200 From: Giampaolo Agosta Subject: Re: Sneak Peek and Italian vacation Ohad Shaham (Morphail) ha scritto: > > Another thing- I am going to Italy on business in May. > I plan to spend a week or two in Pisa and Fiorenze > (Florence), and flying through Milan. As all my Italian acquaintances are through this list, > I was wondering if any of you would like to meet in > said cities for a cop of coffee (I'm buying...). Hi Ohad, I'd certainly enjoy meeting you -- I live in Milan, so let me know when you plan to arrive/leave. GP ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:58:13 +0200 From: Giampaolo Agosta Subject: Re: Claw (Was: Re: [MYSTARA] Anyone do Red Steel?) Átila Pires dos Santos ha scritto: > Now i'm really convinced, the guy that created Claw must really like Red > Steel. I just discovered Pistoleros lupin in the game! They're small, with > long snout, agile and uses pistols! XD :) > Well... it's not every day that you find an game that makes you feel that > you're actually at the Savage Coast =) Good. Now, you only have to post a full Claw-Savage Coast conversion ;) GP ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:22:39 -0700 From: Joe Kelly Subject: Re: Mystara & Ravenloft IMC I actually have both Strahd and Wolslazny as council members on the = council of Lord Nightbay. They soon plan on inviting the PCs to perform a = task for the Skull Legions: Kidnap another Vampire Lord and bring him to = an audience with Lord Nightbay. How will they do it? I have no idea but it = should be interesting.=20 Joe Kelly Joe Kelly Office Services Clerk DAVIS & COMPANY LLP Suite 2800, Park Place 666 Burrard Street, Vancouver, B.C. V6C 2Z7 Phone 604.643.6365 >>> NiceGuyinCNJ@AOL.COM 04/19/06 07:17pm >>> Hi Vini =20 I believe someone mentioned that since Ravenloft's Barovian homeworld was = =20 never located on any "canon" world, it would be very easy to link it to = Boldavia=20 in Glantri. How you go about that, I'm not sure. Perhaps after = Strahd's=20 reign, when he was taken to the Land of the Mists, Morphail's family = came=20 into power. Perhaps they were one of the original families, along with = the=20 Dylisnia's, the Van Royen's, and so forth. Or is Morphail part of = Strahd's=20 bloodline (or vice versa?) It seems it's pretty open and easy to = incorporate. If=20 they are linked, I'm sure there's a gateway (or mistway as it were) to=20 Barovia in Boldavia. Or perhaps the ancient artifacts are left behind = in=20 Boldavia, such as the Holy Symbol of Ravenkind or the Icon of Ravenloft...= which if=20 uncovered can lead into the Mists... =20 As for which games to run, there's nothing wrong with running "Across =20 Wildspace," as long as your mixing up the themes and so forth of the = campaign. If=20 your making Mystara more gothic oriented, I'd advice against it, only = cause=20 the space travel doesn't lend itself too well. =20 =20 However, it sounds like your more Karameiko's oriented in your campaign. = If=20 so, I'd definately play up either the Sulescu angle a bit more. It's = a=20 quiet domain, and perhaps Sulescu is trying to be "good" to make up for = his=20 families evil deeds in the past (whether they be linked to the Von = Zaroviches or=20 even Duke Gundar (though it's believed he's originally from Greyhawk), or = any=20 of the other vampire bloodlines. =20 Koriszgy Keep seems the best example, as the legend is very basic and it = =20 tells of a party the original lord had and how the place was destroyed. = That=20 fits almost perfectly with Strahd's story. Perhaps the "Shadow" left = behind in=20 the keep is Strahd's other half, or simply a portion of his soul. = Kinda=20 along the lines of his split soul from the "House on Gryphon Hill" game. = Since=20 the legends say most don't return from the ruins, perhaps it's not death = but=20 because they are taken to RL. Maybe the Shadow isn't even the "lord" so = to=20 speak, maybe it's half of Tatyana's soul that still lurks in Mystara, = while=20 her other half is constantly reformed in RL. Or is it a minion of = Azalin's,=20 who keeps an eye out for the lich, so that if anyone meddles in Strahd's = past,=20 they can be used as a pawn in their power struggle. =20 Vandevinsky (if I have that spelt right), is also very basic. The = small=20 town was created just for "Night of the Vampire" with a small blurb in = K:KoA. =20 So that's easily tied to the demiplane. Perhaps Natasha actually comes = from=20 the demiplane and then it's easy to tie her into any of the dark = bloodlines. =20 Hope some of this helps! =20 --Dennis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp=20 The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com=20 To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM=20 with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. This e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please notify me immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and do not copy, use or disclose it. Please advise us if you do not want to receive unencrypted e-mails. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:27:21 -0700 From: Joe Kelly Subject: Re: Sneak Peek and Italian vacation Does the NEW Tome of Magic have the Spell fumble chart like the Old Tome = of Magic? I have the old one, not the new one. Joe Kelly Joe Kelly Office Services Clerk DAVIS & COMPANY LLP Suite 2800, Park Place 666 Burrard Street, Vancouver, B.C. V6C 2Z7 Phone 604.643.6365 >>> morphail_o@YAHOO.COM 04/20/06 12:38am >>> Hello Mystarans! Time for my yearly mail :-( It seems I am almost never here, what with real life and all. The only RPG i am doing is scheming through d20 products, Dragon mags and Wizards.com.=20 I noticed some of you (Vini?) were discussing a chat based game. It sounds like a possible way for me to make a comeback, so if anything begins I want in.=20 Another thing- I am going to Italy on business in May. I plan to spend a week or two in Pisa and Fiorenze (Florence), and flying through Milan.=20 As all my Italian acquaintances are through this list, I was wondering if any of you would like to meet in said cities for a cop of coffee (I'm buying...). BTW, to those of you that read through Tome of Magic, its a shame they didn't mention Glantrian Cryptomancy and Illusionism as sources for True Names and Shadow Magic. Ohad aka Morphail __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Please advise us if you do not want to receive unencrypted e-mails. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:50:53 -0700 From: "Ohad Shaham (Morphail)" Subject: Re: Tome of Magic > Does the NEW Tome of Magic have the Spell fumble > chart like the Old Tome of Magic? I have the old > one, not the new one. > > Joe Kelly > Nope. It's a different kind of book this time. Three different sectiones about new magic systems, each complete with a base class and the d20 mandatory prestiege classes. It doesn't sport many new spells (see "spell compendium" for that) but most powers translate well to spells. I think I saw some 3.5 edition fumbles in Complete Arcane though. Ohad __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:59:50 +0000 From: Web Warlock Subject: Re: Mystara & Ravenloft That might have been me, many years ago. I had a website up that explained the Mystara-Ravenloft connection in far greater detail. If I can dig it up I'll post it. But the gist is that Barovia, Strahd's domain and the heart of Ravenloft, was once part of Glantri. After all X2: Castle Amber is very much a proto-Ravenloft adventure. I accept it as canon. Tim -------------- Original message -------------- From: Joe Kelly > IMC I actually have both Strahd and Wolslazny as council members on the council of Lord Nightbay. They soon plan on inviting the PCs to perform a task for the Skull Legions: Kidnap another Vampire Lord and bring him to an audience with Lord Nightbay. How will they do it? I have no idea but it should be interesting. > Joe Kelly > Joe Kelly Office Services Clerk DAVIS & COMPANY LLP Suite 2800, Park Place 666 Burrard Street, Vancouver, B.C. V6C 2Z7 Phone 604.643.6365 > >>> NiceGuyinCNJ@AOL.COM 04/19/06 07:17pm >>> Hi Vini > I believe someone mentioned that since Ravenloft's Barovian homeworld was never located on any "canon" world, it would be very easy to link it to Boldavia in Glantri. How you go about that, I'm not sure. Perhaps after Strahd's reign, when he was taken to the Land of the Mists, Morphail's family came into power. Perhaps they were one of the original families, along with the Dylisnia's, the Van Royen's, and so forth. Or is Morphail part of Strahd's bloodline (or vice versa?) It seems it's pretty open and easy to incorporate. If they are linked, I'm sure there's a gateway (or mistway as it were) to Barovia in Boldavia. Or perhaps the ancient artifacts are left behind in Boldavia, such as the Holy Symbol of Ravenkind or the Icon of Ravenloft...which if uncovered can lead into the Mists... > As for which games to run, there's nothing wrong with running "Across Wildspace," as long as your mixing up the themes and so forth of the campaign. If your making Mystara more gothic oriented, I'd advice against it, only cause the space travel doesn't lend itself too well. > However, it sounds like your more Karameiko's oriented in your campaign. If so, I'd definately play up either the Sulescu angle a bit more. It's a quiet domain, and perhaps Sulescu is trying to be "good" to make up for his families evil deeds in the past (whether they be linked to the Von Zaroviches or even Duke Gundar (though it's believed he's originally from Greyhawk), or any of the other vampire bloodlines. > Koriszgy Keep seems the best example, as the legend is very basic and it tells of a party the original lord had and how the place was destroyed. That fits almost perfectly with Strahd's story. Perhaps the "Shadow" left behind in the keep is Strahd's other half, or simply a portion of his soul. Kinda along the lines of his split soul from the "House on Gryphon Hill" game. Since the legends say most don't return from the ruins, perhaps it's not death but because they are taken to RL. Maybe the Shadow isn't even the "lord" so to speak, maybe it's half of Tatyana's soul that still lurks in Mystara, while her other half is constantly reformed in RL. Or is it a minion of Azalin's, who keeps an eye out for the lich, so that if anyone meddles in Strahd's past, they can be used as a pawn in their power struggle. > Vandevinsky (if I have that spelt right), is also very basic. The small town was created just for "Night of the Vampire" with a small blurb in K:KoA. So that's easily tied to the demiplane. Perhaps Natasha actually comes from the demiplane and then it's easy to tie her into any of the dark bloodlines. > Hope some of this helps! > --Dennis > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > > This e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please notify me immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and do not copy, use or disclose it. Please advise us if you do not want to receive unencrypted e-mails. > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:36:25 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C1tila_Pires_dos_Santos?= Subject: Re: Claw (Was: Re: [MYSTARA] Anyone do Red Steel?) On 4/20/06, Giampaolo Agosta wrote: > Good. Now, you only have to post a full Claw-Savage Coast conversion ;) I'm working on it right now and will finish as soon as possible =3D) By the way, i found an claw fan site that has the pics of almost all enemie= s of the game (except the bosses, but all the eight can be seen at the official page) http://claw.ben-ts.net/officer.gif http://claw.ben-ts.net/soldier.gif The lupin enemies of La Roca. They're quite generic (like much in the game)= , but if i had to choose, i would say their clothes look rather "french" than "spanish". Just my opinion =3D) http://claw.ben-ts.net/thief.gif http://claw.ben-ts.net/cutthroat.gif Generic bandits from Thieves Forest. Is the second one like Torre=F3ner Pit-Bulls? http://claw.ben-ts.net/guard.gif http://claw.ben-ts.net/guard2.gif Puerto del Lobo city guard http://claw.ben-ts.net/rtp.gif http://claw.ben-ts.net/bear.gif Enemies that can be found at the Shipyards. (The second one is not rakasta or lupin. The name of the file suggest that he is from some "bear-people" race; my first impression was that he was from an "giant rat-people" race, spceccialy because there are an "diminutive rat-people" race in the game (not appearing in this site)... is there anything like these in Mystara?) http://claw.ben-ts.net/pegleg.gif http://claw.ben-ts.net/crazyhook.gif >> From Pirates Cove. Is the first one like lupin Pistoleros? http://claw.ben-ts.net/siren.gif http://claw.ben-ts.net/mercat.gif Some kind of mercats from the Undersea Caves. I never saw something like that in Mystara, but a saw a lot of differents racial combinations at the Savage Coast, these mercats don't seen too weird to me (specially because they might have been created to guard the undersea way to the Tiger Island) http://claw.ben-ts.net/tiger.gif http://claw.ben-ts.net/tigerwhite.gif Followers of Bastet, well-trained guardians of her temple (propably an ancient Nithian ruin occupied by her followers). They look more tiger-like, but they probably are just rakastas as well Any suggestions, anyone? =3D) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 19 Apr 2006 to 20 Apr 2006 (#2006-74) ***************************************************************