Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 16 Jan 2006 to 23 Jan 2006 (#2006-9) From: MYSTARA-L automatic digest system Date: 24/01/2006, 19:00 To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 6 messages totalling 270 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Flaem race and culture? (6) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:29:31 +0200 From: Ville V Lahde Subject: Flaem race and culture? I'm constructing an old abode of a Flaem mage for my campaign (built around 600 AC in the area of Heldann). The Flaem came from the Old Alphatia, but precious little has been written about them. Racially and culturally they should be close to the original Alphatians. But the Old Aphatians have been described pretty much like the Melniboneans in Elric stories. If I remember correctly, the Flaem are supposed to have coppery skin (?) and reddish hair. If anyone has written anything on them, it would help me a lot. I wish to provide the PCs with some hints about the origins of the Flaem and their relationship with the Folloers of Air. Ville ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:22:12 +0100 From: Francesco Defferrari Subject: Re: Flaem race and culture? I wrote an history of Old Alphatia some time ago, with the origins of the Flaems too, you can find it in the Vaults, link: http://pandius.com/oldalph.html Note that it's almost all uncanon. Anyway in my story, Flaem have coppery skin and reddish air because they are mostly descendants of the Cypric people, who were fire wizards long before the atlantean (the "true" alphatians with white skin and black hair) conquered them. If you have any question about my story, just tell. bye, Francesco Ville V Lahde wrote: > I'm constructing an old abode of a Flaem mage for my campaign (built > around 600 AC in the area of Heldann). > > The Flaem came from the Old Alphatia, but precious little has been > written about them. > > Racially and culturally they should be close to the original > Alphatians. But the Old Aphatians have been described pretty much like > the Melniboneans in Elric stories. If I remember correctly, the Flaem > are supposed to have coppery skin (?) and reddish hair. > > If anyone has written anything on them, it would help me a lot. I wish > to provide the PCs with some hints about the origins of the Flaem and > their relationship with the Folloers of Air. > > Ville ___________________________________ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:46:19 +0100 From: Havard Faanes Subject: Re: Flaem race and culture? The Dragonlord Trilogy has a lot of information on the Flaems in this period as well as a map of parts of the Known World ca AC 490. Håvard --- Ville V Lahde skrev: > I'm constructing an old abode of a Flaem mage for my > campaign (built around 600 AC in the area of Heldann). > > The Flaem came from the Old Alphatia, but precious > little has been written about them. > > Racially and culturally they should be close to the > original Alphatians. But the Old Aphatians have been > described pretty much like the Melniboneans in Elric stories. If I remember > correctly, the Flaem are supposed to have coppery skin (?) and reddish > hair. > > If anyone has written anything on them, it would > help me a lot. I wish to provide the PCs with some hints about the origins > of the Flaem and their relationship with the Folloers of Air. > > Ville > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: > http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com > To unsubscribe, send email to > LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:07:16 +0200 From: Ville V Lahde Subject: Re: Flaem race and culture? Thanks for the story Francesco. I'll certainly look it through. Unfortunately I never got my hands on the Mystara novels. Actually they are pretty much the only Mystara article I've never seen. Ville ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:47:53 +0100 From: Giampaolo Agosta Subject: Re: Flaem race and culture? Ville V Lahde ha scritto: > I'm constructing an old abode of a Flaem mage for my campaign (built around 600 AC in the area of Heldann). > > The Flaem came from the Old Alphatia, but precious little has been written about them. > > Racially and culturally they should be close to the original Alphatians. But the Old Aphatians have been described pretty much like the Melniboneans in Elric stories. If I remember correctly, the Flaem are supposed to have coppery skin (?) and reddish hair. Remember that the Alphatians were a large (planetary-sized) culture, with much room for different subraces. Specifically, the Alphatians are divided into at least two racial groups, the Cypri (copper skin, dark hair) and the Pure Alphatians (pale skin with hints of blue, blue-black hair). The Flaem were probably akin to the Cypri. Given the skin/hair colour and the typical elemental affinities of the Alphatians, I'd assume that they have some (slight) genie blood -- not nearly enough to make them genasi, but enough to let unusual colorations of skin and hair become common. Anyway, you may have a look at what the Glantrian Personnel Division came up with under Principality of Bergdhoven, here: http://www.geocities.com/principalities_of_glantri/main/principalities.htm Also, look for the History of the Secret Craft of Dracology. Hope it helps, GP ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:26:38 -0800 From: Andrew Theisen Subject: Re: Flaem race and culture? --- Giampaolo Agosta wrote: > Remember that the Alphatians were a large (planetary-sized) > culture, with much room for different subraces. Specifically, > the Alphatians are divided into at least two racial groups, the > Cypri (copper skin, dark hair) and the Pure Alphatians (pale skin > with hints of blue, blue-black hair). The Flaem were probably akin > to the Cypri. Along this line, based on some recent discussions (well, maybe not *that* recent) with people here on the list and on the MML (notably DM), I am currently of the opinion that the Ochaleans were an ethnic minority on Old Alphatia. Their physical appearance was ultimately dominated by the Cypri features (coppery skin, etc.), but they managed to retain the largest elements of their own culture, which they brought with them to Mystara, and preserved (and expanded upon) when they settled the island of Ochalea, away from the Alphatian mainland. In fact, based on what I'm reading about the Chinese treasure fleets of old in the book 1421: The Year China Discovered America, I'm currently toying with the idea that the flotillas of skyships that transported the Alphatians to Mystara were of Old Ochalean make and manufacture (though the techniques were largely lost along with the massive troves of information that disappeared when the planet was destroyed). Tying in with that is (yet another) new theory of mine about how the Myoshimans may have gotten their culture from the Ochaleans who landed on Matera, rather than continuing all the way to Mystara. (Seems an easier explanation than trying to fit in the Rakasta Japanese elements into such a short timespan on Mystara, and then having them somehow transported to the moon.) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 16 Jan 2006 to 23 Jan 2006 (#2006-9) **************************************************************