Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 9 Aug 2007 to 16 Aug 2007 (#2007-72) From: MYSTARA-L automatic digest system Date: 17/08/2007, 17:00 To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 12 messages totalling 524 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. D&D 4e and Mystara (7) 2. [Spam] [MYSTARA] D&D 4e and Mystara (2) 3. Vedr. Re: [MYSTARA] [Spam] [MYSTARA] D&D 4e and Mystara (3) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:25:48 +0200 From: Havard Faanes Subject: D&D 4e and Mystara Cross-posted to the MMB: Looks like 4e will be coming out next year: http://theminiaturespage.com/news/519193/ and http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd Will this have any consequences for Mystara? Will it mean Traianus will stop making 3e monster conversions? (I hope not!) Will Mystara be the flagship setting of the new edition? Havard _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 09:51:11 -0700 From: Beau Yarbrough Subject: Re: D&D 4e and Mystara Havard Faanes wrote: > Will this have any consequences for Mystara? It means the Mystara 3E debacle will have finally reached the point of comedy. I humbly suggest Mystara 4E not try to remake 4E into BD&D, which is what originally caused the 3E project to bog down and then led to the in-fighting that killed it. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:18:33 -0300 From: Vinicius RM Subject: Re: [Spam] [MYSTARA] D&D 4e and Mystara ---------- Cabe=E7alho original ----------- De: "Mystara RPG Discussion" MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Para: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Data: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:25:48 +0200 Assunto: [Spam] [MYSTARA] D&D 4e and Mystara > Cross-posted to the MMB: > > Looks like 4e will be coming out next year: > > http://theminiaturespage.com/news/519193/ > > and > > http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=3Ddnd > > Will this have any consequences for Mystara? > > Will it mean Traianus will stop making 3e monster > conversions? (I hope not!) We should be ready with all our 3.X ed conversions i.e. not be caught by = surprise and make them 4e conversions. Jenni's group is going well... > Will Mystara be the flagship setting of the new > edition? > > Havard What does "flagship setting" mean? Vini ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:21:32 -0700 From: Beau Yarbrough Subject: Re: [Spam] [MYSTARA] D&D 4e and Mystara Vinicius RM wrote: > What does "flagship setting" mean? The main setting. And no, there's explicitly not going to be a baseline 4E setting, not even Greyhawk. They'll update Forgotten Realms in 2008 and Eberron in 2009. They have an "other settings" thread on the Gleemax board, but I wouldn't count on anything other than pats on the head to inquiries, other than probably an acknowledgment that Planescape elements will show up in the 4E Manual of the Planes. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:42:02 -0300 From: Vinicius RM Subject: Re: D&D 4e and Mystara ---------- Cabe=E7alho original ----------- De: "Mystara RPG Discussion" MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Para: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Data: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:25:48 +0200 Assunto: [MYSTARA] D&D 4e and Mystara > Cross-posted to the MMB: > > Looks like 4e will be coming out next year: > > http://theminiaturespage.com/news/519193/ > > and > > http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=3Ddnd > Havard What is this countdown? (snip) Regards, Vini ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:53:57 +0200 From: Havard Faanes Subject: Re: D&D 4e and Mystara --- Vinicius RM skrev: > What is this countdown? The URL is for the WotC D&D page. I dont know exactly what will happen when the count reaches 0, but probably some more official announcement about D&D 4e. Havard _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:56:00 +0200 From: Havard Faanes Subject: Vedr. Re: [MYSTARA] [Spam] [MYSTARA] D&D 4e and Mystara --- Beau Yarbrough skrev: > > And no, there's explicitly not going to be a > baseline 4E setting, not even Greyhawk. They'll update Forgotten Realms > in 2008 and Eberron Where is this from? I wonder if they will make a new setting that is exclusive to 4e just like they have with all previous editions... > in 2009. They have an "other settings" thread on the > Gleemax board, but I wouldn't count on anything other than pats on the > head to inquiries, other than probably an acknowledgment that > Planescape elements will show up in the 4E Manual of the Planes. Yeah, I wasnt counting on it. A sourcebook or two with official conversions of all the old settings would be a quick way to make me want to buy the new game tho... Havard _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:14:30 -0700 From: Beau Yarbrough Subject: Re: Vedr. Re: [MYSTARA] [Spam] [MYSTARA] D&D 4e and Mystara Havard Faanes wrote: > --- Beau Yarbrough skrev: > >> And no, there's explicitly not going to be a >> baseline 4E setting, not even Greyhawk. They'll update Forgotten Realms >> in 2008 and Eberron > > Where is this from? > Icv2, or whatever it is. > I wonder if they will make a new setting that is > exclusive to 4e just like they have with all previous > editions... > I wouldn't be surprised if we see one in 2010, once the other two main lines are back up and running. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:49:33 +0200 From: Havard Faanes Subject: Re: D&D 4e and Mystara Oh, this one right: http://www.icv2.com/articles/home/11123.html "The setting for the core books are campaign neutral. Forgotten Realms will be the first campaign setting to be updated (in August 2008). Other campaign settings will be updated at a rate of one per year. " Other settings... updated... sorta sounds like they'll be updating more settings than just FR and Eberron then. Ofcourse Mystara would be far down on their list... :( Havard --- Beau Yarbrough skrev: > Havard Faanes wrote: > > --- Beau Yarbrough skrev: > > >> And no, there's explicitly not going to be a > >> baseline 4E setting, >> not even Greyhawk. They'll update Forgotten > Realms > >> in 2008 and Eberron >> > > > Where is this from? > > Icv2, or whatever it is. > > > I wonder if they will make a new setting that is > > exclusive to 4e just like they have with all > previous > > editions... > > I wouldn't be surprised if we see one in 2010, > once the other two main lines are back up and running. > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: > http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com > To unsubscribe, send email to > LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:43:34 -0700 From: Jenni Merrifield Subject: Re: D&D 4e and Mystara Beau Yarbrough wrote: > Havard Faanes wrote: > > Will this have any consequences for Mystara? > It means the Mystara 3E debacle will have finally reached the point > of comedy. > I humbly suggest Mystara 4E not try to remake 4E into BD&D, which is > what originally caused the 3E project to bog down and then led to the > in-fighting that killed it. It wasn't really in-fighting that killed the original project. It was more a gradual apathetic fading, primarily caused by not having one or two, completely dedicated people, in a "the buck stops here" role. Personally, I'm still interested in converting Mystara to 3.5E/d20 as it currently stands. I own so many 3.5E (and 3E) books and am in or run so many 3.5E campaigns that I doubt I'm going to shell out for 4E any time soon. If anyone else wants to get a Mystara-4E project started, all the power in the world to them. Anyone who doesn't think it's worth doing a 3.5E/d20 conversion now that 4E is coming out is welcome to unsubscribe from the project group. And I know nothing much has happened since I reactivated this group, but I did say, up front, that things might be slow going sometimes, and that would just have to be the way it had to be - real life absolutely takes precedence for me, and, well, once again, it has had to. I've had stuff percolating in the background though, so when additional free time miraculously re-appears in my life, you can bet I'll be loud and clear. ;-) :-j(enni) -- Jenni A.M. Merrifield | walking on water and | designing to requirements are easy | so long as both are frozen design - development - usability human factors engineer user experience specialist -- > -----Original Message----- > From: Mystara RPG Discussion [mailto:MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM] On Behalf Of > Beau Yarbrough > Sent: August 16, 2007 9:51 AM > To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] D&D 4e and Mystara > =20 > =20 > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:40:41 +0800 From: Jason Murphy Subject: Re: Vedr. Re: [MYSTARA] [Spam] [MYSTARA] D&D 4e and Mystara Just in time for talk to begin on version 5.0 On 8/17/07, Beau Yarbrough wrote: > > Havard Faanes wrote: > > --- Beau Yarbrough skrev: > > > >> And no, there's explicitly not going to be a > >> baseline 4E setting, > >> not even Greyhawk. They'll update Forgotten Realms > >> in 2008 and Eberron > >> > > > > Where is this from? > > > Icv2, or whatever it is. > > > I wonder if they will make a new setting that is > > exclusive to 4e just like they have with all previous > > editions... > > > I wouldn't be surprised if we see one in 2010, once the other two > main lines are back up and running. > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:55:07 -0700 From: Andrew Theisen Subject: Re: D&D 4e and Mystara > Beau Yarbrough wrote:I humbly suggest Mystara 4E not try >to remake 4E into BD&D, which is what originally caused the 3E project to bog down and then led to the in-fighting that killed it. My own suggestion would be that any conversion attempt to 4E should probably be more focused on descriptive elements, and avoid the mechanics (completely, if possible). In fact, I think the best thing we could do for a 4E or even just all the extant editions is to work on making the Vaults a more Newbie friendly place- by which I don't necessarily mean organizing and indexing (though a bit of that, which I know Shawn wants to do), but mostly trying to get some basic information up there (Newbie guide, as well as similar concepts) to help anyone with an interest in Mystara, who doesn't have immediate access to the long out of print source material. (IE, enough info to give an overview and provide links/resources for them to get more information if they are so enticed, but without violating any copyrights or stepping into the territory of WotC/TSR.) I'd also like to see some of the information we've got up there organized into more download friendly formats (.pdfs, etc.), though that's certainly a long-term project. Maybe someone more reliable than myself could create some templates and resources that authors with info online could use to convert their articles and things for those purposes. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 9 Aug 2007 to 16 Aug 2007 (#2007-72) **************************************************************