Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 20 Sep 2007 to 27 Sep 2007 (#2007-89) From: MYSTARA-L automatic digest system Date: 28/09/2007, 17:00 To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 2 messages totalling 125 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Chaotic Dynasts (2) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:19:12 -0400 From: Rodger Burns Subject: Chaotic Dynasts (Sidenote: This is identical to something I've tried to post on the WotC boards. However, for no reason that I can understand the board software has apparently managed to eat my thread. If you've already seen this on the boards, great - means it did go through, somehow - but there's nothing new in this message.) There aren't many Chaotic immortals of Time - which on the face of it is somewhat odd, since the Sphere is aligned primarily towards Neutrality. (Heck, even Matter has members such as Valerias and Pearl.) This is arguably due to the path involved in becoming an Immortal of Time - found a dynasty, build a capital, travel forward in time to protect a nation and a civilization. Arguably not the most Chaotic of activities to be involved in. Or is it? Here's a few possibilities for candidate Dynasts who don't have the most Lawful of outlooks: *The Liberator*: This character's not nation-building for its own sake. Rather, he's trying to create something that can stand up to an existing empire or despotism - and if that means creating a new kingdom that will endure for centuries, them's the breaks. The new kingdom is likely to violently reject the customs of its despotic neighbor, and to have a strong streak of individuality to boot. *The Conquerer*: Nothing says that the nation founded by a Dynast has to be created peacefully! A Conquerer still accomplishes all the tasks set forth in the path to Immortality... but does so on the backs of other, decaying nations, using fire and the sword. The resulting nation's laws will either be rough-and-ready to begin with, frequently ignored by the Dynast's soldiers when it doesn't suit their desires, or both. *The Hedonist*: This character wants it all - and is willing to establish a kingdom in order to get it. While the resulting dynasty may be impressive, it's arguably not the most stable of societies - its founder's whim is the highest law. If this character achieves Immortality, she may remain in mortal guise to rule over the nation she founded, or may abandon it for the wonders of the wider multiverse. *The Unifier*: More than one would-be Dynast gets their start from bringing together a normally chaotic culture or race and introducing them to the delights of civilization. The nation created as a result of this effort is likely to be Chaotic out of sheer inertia for a long time to come, even if certain laws are agreed to as part of keeping the new nation from clawing itself apart from inside. Mrikkit, the wererat 'king' of the Thyatis sewers, is an example of this type of Dynast. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 00:37:06 +0200 From: la Volpe Subject: Re: Chaotic Dynasts Interesting read! Some comments below. Rodger Burns ha scritto:There aren't many Chaotic immortals of Time - which on the face of it is somewhat odd, since the Sphere is aligned primarily towards Neutrality. (Heck, even Matter has members such as Valerias and Pearl.) This is arguably due to the path involved in becoming an Immortal of Time - found a dynasty, build a capital, travel forward in time to protect a nation and a civilization. Arguably not the most Chaotic of activities to be involved in. That could really be the point... never thought about that before! Or is it? Here's a few possibilities for candidate Dynasts who don't have the most Lawful of outlooks: *The Liberator*: Cool idea for an "underdog" civilization, maybe humanoids trying to resist civilization or destruction (by humans or dwarves) being united under a single leader who then returns back to assure his civilization doesn't crumble both internally and under external pressure. A campaign built on this quest would really be cool. *The Conquerer*: Nothing says that the nation founded by a Dynast has to be created peacefully! I think that Vanya was originally conceived to fill this gap. She was chaotic, if I am not wrong, the first "time" (pun intended) she appeared. *The Hedonist*: This character wants it all - and is willing to establish a kingdom in order to get it. While the resulting dynasty may be impressive, it's arguably not the most stable of societies - its founder's whim is the highest law. If this character achieves Immortality, she may remain in mortal guise to rule over the nation she founded, or may abandon it for the wonders of the wider multiverse. This is maybe the weakest idea, I don't seem to think about an example. ^_^ *The Unifier*: More than one would-be Dynast gets their start from bringing together a normally chaotic culture or race and introducing them to the delights of civilization. The nation created as a result of this effort is likely to be Chaotic out of sheer inertia for a long time to come, even if certain laws are agreed to as part of keeping the new nation from clawing itself apart from inside. Mrikkit, the wererat 'king' of the Thyatis sewers, is an example of this type of Dynast. Yeah, Kol and Kolland in Glantri could be another feasible example, although I'm not sure he's chaotic. Well, in OD&D surely he is. Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis --------------------------------- --------------------------------- L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 20 Sep 2007 to 27 Sep 2007 (#2007-89) ***************************************************************