Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 26 May 2008 to 27 May 2008 (#2008-27) From: MYSTARA-L automatic digest system Date: 28/05/2008, 17:00 To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 8 messages totalling 476 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. From a lurker (4) 2. MMB dead? 3. Mystara "by night" (2) 4. Is the MML blocking new subscriptions? ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 12:13:31 +0300 From: Ville V Lahde Subject: Re: From a lurker Joe Kelly wrote: "I am interested though, in what everyone does since no NEW material =20 is available? My group has died. 3 players now have families. One =20 family of 3 use to play but they moved to Edmonton. Do any of you play =20 that have young families? 1-4 yrs old? How do you do it? How often? We =20 used to play weekly, then it went bi-weekly then it died. I still have =20 a library of 4 large shelves and one of two boxes of game stuff. I'm =20 stubborn and refuse to get rid of it. Any suggestions how to get =20 restarted?" As someone said, MML, MMB and the Vaults are so full of expertly =20 produced material that one scarcely needs anything new official =20 material. If you haven't already, check the fanmade gazetteers for =20 northern countries. Really nice. I have two regular groups with average ages well over 35, and children =20 are in the picture, with more coming (I don't have any though). The =20 Mystara group gathers pretty regularily, once a month, and the other =20 one every week. I guess the best guarantee has been that we have tried =20 too keep up our friendships alive and kicking in other areas of life, =20 hanging out together in other hobbies etc. Our Mystara group rents a =20 cheap dive for boardgaming, drinking, hanging out, listening to music =20 and other mellow activities. Also with both groups we have had good =20 luck. From time to time some people have lived elsewhere, even abroad, =20 but the group has always returned together. I have no good advice on how to get restarted, but friendship is the =20 best way to keep going. Also I recommend playing something new and =20 different from time to time, just a session or two, to keep the =20 interest in rpgs as a whole up. During the summer we usually have had =20 a campaign for all those who could rally to it: usually Cthulhu, =20 Paranoia, but in later years many wonderful indie games like Lacuna, =20 Gingerale, Poison!, Dogs in the Vineyard etc. Also, if you get a dry spell in your primary campaign, arrange solo or =20 duo games with some of the characters, so the players stay connected =20 with their PCs. In our 20 year long (soon) Mystara campaign we have =20 had two solo/duo periods, each lasting two years! (We played AD&D on =20 the side when we could get all toghether) Ville ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 07:29:57 -0500 From: George Hrabovsky Subject: Re: From a lurker Another thing that I have successfully done is to create a yahoo group for my game where major campaign announcements occur and then i can keep track of PC activities by phone sessions and email, as well as occasional solos sessions in person and occasional group sessions. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ville V Lahde" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:13 AM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] From a lurker Joe Kelly wrote: "I am interested though, in what everyone does since no NEW material is available? My group has died. 3 players now have families. One family of 3 use to play but they moved to Edmonton. Do any of you play that have young families? 1-4 yrs old? How do you do it? How often? We used to play weekly, then it went bi-weekly then it died. I still have a library of 4 large shelves and one of two boxes of game stuff. I'm stubborn and refuse to get rid of it. Any suggestions how to get restarted?" As someone said, MML, MMB and the Vaults are so full of expertly produced material that one scarcely needs anything new official material. If you haven't already, check the fanmade gazetteers for northern countries. Really nice. I have two regular groups with average ages well over 35, and children are in the picture, with more coming (I don't have any though). The Mystara group gathers pretty regularily, once a month, and the other one every week. I guess the best guarantee has been that we have tried too keep up our friendships alive and kicking in other areas of life, hanging out together in other hobbies etc. Our Mystara group rents a cheap dive for boardgaming, drinking, hanging out, listening to music and other mellow activities. Also with both groups we have had good luck. From time to time some people have lived elsewhere, even abroad, but the group has always returned together. I have no good advice on how to get restarted, but friendship is the best way to keep going. Also I recommend playing something new and different from time to time, just a session or two, to keep the interest in rpgs as a whole up. During the summer we usually have had a campaign for all those who could rally to it: usually Cthulhu, Paranoia, but in later years many wonderful indie games like Lacuna, Gingerale, Poison!, Dogs in the Vineyard etc. Also, if you get a dry spell in your primary campaign, arrange solo or duo games with some of the characters, so the players stay connected with their PCs. In our 20 year long (soon) Mystara campaign we have had two solo/duo periods, each lasting two years! (We played AD&D on the side when we could get all toghether) Ville ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 08:31:55 -0700 From: "Kelly, Joe" Subject: Re: From a lurker Well I have 3 interested, one is too young and too far away (my nephew 13).= My other two friends are interested, but sadly one of them I emailed you a= ll about. It was the guy who ruined my old campaign. He seems to get the id= ea that if you're group is supposed to explore a castle, he decides to just= blow it up, and forget the story line. Grrr. I might just tell him it won'= t happen. Another friend of mine, told me this guy has no concept really of= what RPG is about. It's like you create the world, but he comes up with th= e plot line??? Joe Kelly -----Original Message----- From: Mystara RPG Discussion [mailto:MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM] On Behal= f Of George Hrabovsky Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 5:30 AM To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] From a lurker Another thing that I have successfully done is to create a yahoo group for = my game where major campaign announcements occur and then i can keep track = of PC activities by phone sessions and email, as well as occasional solos s= essions in person and occasional group sessions. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ville V Lahde" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:13 AM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] From a lurker Joe Kelly wrote: "I am interested though, in what everyone does since no NEW material is ava= ilable? My group has died. 3 players now have families. One family of 3 use= to play but they moved to Edmonton. Do any of you play that have young fam= ilies? 1-4 yrs old? How do you do it? How often? We used to play weekly, th= en it went bi-weekly then it died. I still have a library of 4 large shelve= s and one of two boxes of game stuff. I'm stubborn and refuse to get rid of= it. Any suggestions how to get restarted?" As someone said, MML, MMB and the Vaults are so full of expertly produced m= aterial that one scarcely needs anything new official material. If you have= n't already, check the fanmade gazetteers for northern countries. Really ni= ce. I have two regular groups with average ages well over 35, and children are = in the picture, with more coming (I don't have any though). The Mystara gro= up gathers pretty regularily, once a month, and the other one every week. I= guess the best guarantee has been that we have tried too keep up our frien= dships alive and kicking in other areas of life, hanging out together in ot= her hobbies etc. Our Mystara group rents a cheap dive for boardgaming, drin= king, hanging out, listening to music and other mellow activities. Also wit= h both groups we have had good luck. From time to time some people have liv= ed elsewhere, even abroad, but the group has always returned together. I have no good advice on how to get restarted, but friendship is the best w= ay to keep going. Also I recommend playing something new and different from= time to time, just a session or two, to keep the interest in rpgs as a who= le up. During the summer we usually have had a campaign for all those who c= ould rally to it: usually Cthulhu, Paranoia, but in later years many wonder= ful indie games like Lacuna, Gingerale, Poison!, Dogs in the Vineyard etc. Also, if you get a dry spell in your primary campaign, arrange solo or duo = games with some of the characters, so the players stay connected with their= PCs. In our 20 year long (soon) Mystara campaign we have had two solo/duo = periods, each lasting two years! (We played AD&D on the side when we could = get all toghether) Ville ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to = LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message= . ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to = LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message= . This e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please notify me immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and do not copy, use or disclose it. Please advise us if you do not want to receive unencrypted e-mails. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 11:56:41 -0500 From: George Hrabovsky Subject: Re: From a lurker My solution to things like that is to embroil the character responsible for such acts in the ramifications of such; revenge from those who had interests, actions by rulers who own the land and wanted the now ruined castle for their own, and so on. Involve dark powers and/or exalted beings who can prevent such irresponsible acts in a more organic/less contrived way. We have all had troublesome players to deal with... George ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly, Joe" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] From a lurker Well I have 3 interested, one is too young and too far away (my nephew 13). My other two friends are interested, but sadly one of them I emailed you all about. It was the guy who ruined my old campaign. He seems to get the idea that if you're group is supposed to explore a castle, he decides to just blow it up, and forget the story line. Grrr. I might just tell him it won't happen. Another friend of mine, told me this guy has no concept really of what RPG is about. It's like you create the world, but he comes up with the plot line??? Joe Kelly -----Original Message----- From: Mystara RPG Discussion [mailto:MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM] On Behalf Of George Hrabovsky Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 5:30 AM To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] From a lurker Another thing that I have successfully done is to create a yahoo group for my game where major campaign announcements occur and then i can keep track of PC activities by phone sessions and email, as well as occasional solos sessions in person and occasional group sessions. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ville V Lahde" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:13 AM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] From a lurker Joe Kelly wrote: "I am interested though, in what everyone does since no NEW material is available? My group has died. 3 players now have families. One family of 3 use to play but they moved to Edmonton. Do any of you play that have young families? 1-4 yrs old? How do you do it? How often? We used to play weekly, then it went bi-weekly then it died. I still have a library of 4 large shelves and one of two boxes of game stuff. I'm stubborn and refuse to get rid of it. Any suggestions how to get restarted?" As someone said, MML, MMB and the Vaults are so full of expertly produced material that one scarcely needs anything new official material. If you haven't already, check the fanmade gazetteers for northern countries. Really nice. I have two regular groups with average ages well over 35, and children are in the picture, with more coming (I don't have any though). The Mystara group gathers pretty regularily, once a month, and the other one every week. I guess the best guarantee has been that we have tried too keep up our friendships alive and kicking in other areas of life, hanging out together in other hobbies etc. Our Mystara group rents a cheap dive for boardgaming, drinking, hanging out, listening to music and other mellow activities. Also with both groups we have had good luck. From time to time some people have lived elsewhere, even abroad, but the group has always returned together. I have no good advice on how to get restarted, but friendship is the best way to keep going. Also I recommend playing something new and different from time to time, just a session or two, to keep the interest in rpgs as a whole up. During the summer we usually have had a campaign for all those who could rally to it: usually Cthulhu, Paranoia, but in later years many wonderful indie games like Lacuna, Gingerale, Poison!, Dogs in the Vineyard etc. Also, if you get a dry spell in your primary campaign, arrange solo or duo games with some of the characters, so the players stay connected with their PCs. In our 20 year long (soon) Mystara campaign we have had two solo/duo periods, each lasting two years! (We played AD&D on the side when we could get all toghether) Ville ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. This e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please notify me immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and do not copy, use or disclose it. Please advise us if you do not want to receive unencrypted e-mails. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 14:50:53 -0400 From: Steven Carter Subject: Re: MMB dead? You know what the best thing is though? I see plenty of names I've been seeing for years and some new ones piping up. Clearly OUR Mystara community is alive and well. We can only hope that we are allowed to keep our community interests alive in other forums if the MMB and/or MML are no longer a possibility. ( ie IP policy regarding D&D becomes do it on our WOTC systems or not at all ) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 17:34:59 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C1tila_Pires_dos_Santos?= Subject: Re: Mystara "by night" *Briefly de-lurking* Hi guys Vini's idea was to organize something more or less like Living Greyhawk project for Mystara. Nothing too complicated (well, at least for explaining; that would require a great level or organization, not to mention that we would need to achieve something we decide not to a long time ago, a "unified model for Mystara"; and we would still need to decide a starting point for all games (I believe most would want 1000, 1010 or after the PWAs/JA, but I still want to DM that 450 AC campaign someday... ;) ). ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 23:28:48 +0200 From: Giampaolo Agosta Subject: Re: Mystara "by night" 2008/5/27 =C1tila Pires dos Santos : > *Briefly de-lurking* > Hi guys > Vini's idea was to organize something more or less like Living Greyhawk > project for Mystara. Ah, ok. I didn't get the "by night" part :) GP ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 23:32:26 +0200 From: Giampaolo Agosta Subject: Re: Is the MML blocking new subscriptions? 2008/5/25 Mike Harvey : > FWIW I have subscribed recently with two separate email addresses. I can > post messages to the list successfully, but I do not receive list emails at > either address. I've tried changing my list settings but to no avail. > > It was worth a try, but I'll have to wait until a new forum is up. At this point, we may safely say that a new forum is up, here: http://www.lajzar.co.uk/bb/viewforum.php?f=3 It's starting out well, so I'm moving from the WotC boards to this one. Hope to see those of you who have problems with the mailing list there :) GP ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 26 May 2008 to 27 May 2008 (#2008-27) ***************************************************************