Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 28 Feb 2008 to 29 Feb 2008 (#2008-36) From: MYSTARA-L automatic digest system Date: 01/03/2008, 19:00 To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 6 messages totalling 341 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Encounter with a Druj 2. Goblinoid subraces (3) 3. Mystaran Numismatics - Minrothad (2) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:45:03 -0500 From: Angelo Bertolli Subject: Re: Encounter with a Druj Ville V Lahde wrote: > Last night the PCs in our group run into a Druj (Spirit) for the first > time. As far as I remember, this is the first undead spirit they had ever > met (their levels are 14-17). > > We play OD&D, and according to those rules an undead spirit destroys any and > all potions within 30', without saving throw. That's pretty bad. > > Well, the thief in the group ran smack in the middle of the Druj's corruption field. He had amassed a huge and varied arsenal of potions over the years, including rarities like Ethereality, Elasticity, Dreamspeech... All in all, > he lost nearly 20 potions. > > It is a credit to the player that he just shrugged in a c'est la vie way and > went on pounding those pesky undead to dust. > > Has anyone had any similar experiences with using spirits? What is your > general policy on damage to magical items? I have been pretty lenient over > the years. > > (A favourite example of a much stricter GM: Group of my friends played AD&D. This was in the happy-go-teenage moster bashing years. They were shovelling the treasure of a dragon into a portable hole. Nobody told them that you are not supposed to put a bag of holding - part of the hoard - into a portable hole. Bang goes the treasure, and a lot of stuff already in the hole.) I guess if you wanted to be nice, they could find some purification magic that would work to help purify their potions... if they decided to keep them of course ;) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:06:38 -0500 From: Greg Weatherup Subject: Goblinoid subraces Aloha, I figured that since we are getting into two different subjects, it was tim= e to split the thread. (This is continued from "Mystaran Numismatics - Kar= ameikos") wow, thank you for sending the discriptions along. I'm working on a Mystar= a races in 3e players options page, so that will come in very handy. I have been following the Italian Mystaran Demographics posts at the italia= n forums at 25edition, (I don't speak Italian, but with difficulty I can re= ad a little of it), and I had always wondered why the assigned the names th= ey did to the subraces. In case your not aware of it they call (assuming m= y translations are good) the Rapidus Kobolds as Hill Kobolds (though they d= on't seem to show any in the KW), Militaris Kobolds as Mountain Kobolds, an= d Numerus Kobold as "Maculati" Kobolds, though I can't figure out what Macu= lati means (Elm Kobolds perhaps?). For the gnolls I've had less luck at tr= anslating them but the Hilaris Gnoll they have as Ilari (Which I think mean= s "High" or "Shining"), and the others I think are just "Northern" and "Sou= thern" Gnolls. Do the numerus kobold use atrughi style names? being that their culture ori= ginated there? Gecko On 2/28/08 Atila Pires dos Santos wrote: > >> Now I'm wishing even more that I had Gaz10. > > No problem, the descriptions are here ;) > > *Gnolls:* > *Canis Erectus Meridionum:* Essencially light brown hair, with a natually black mohawk for older speciments. Usually wear panther skins around the waist and a leather belt. Found in most deserted areas. > *Canis Erectus Septentrionum:* Darker brown, with reddish spots and a natually white mohawk. Usually wear sheep skins and dark grey or black cloacks. Common in northern regions. > *Canis Erectus Hilaris:* Hunched; light brown hair with black spots, and a black snout. Always seem to giggle before attacking. Ocasionally grow a tan mohawk and wear bear skins. Common in most wilderness and South Gnollistan (Broken Lands). > > *Kobolds:* > *Canis Minor Militaris:* Rusty brown scales and yellow eyes. Usually wear mismatched pieces or armor plates, or anything metallic offering some sort of body protection. Often paint their armor in bright colors, essencially as tribal markings. Well organized and disciplined, found in rugged or mountainous terrain (such as Kol). > *Canis Minor Rapidus: *Common in hills or forested hills. More chaotic than *Militaris*, but far more daring. Black scales, or very dark green with blue shades; blue, green, or white manes, depending on age. Wear camouflaged garb. Great ambushers. > *Canis Minor Numerus: *Neither sneaky nor organized, they make up for their weakness with sheer numbers. Fast reproducing. Scales are dark grey with muddy splotches. Often wear war paints and colorful plumes on their heads as tribal markings. Nomadic culture native of Atruaghin. --=20 Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:15:45 +0100 From: Giampaolo Agosta Subject: Re: Goblinoid subraces On 29/02/2008, Greg Weatherup wrote: > > Militaris Kobolds as Mountain Kobolds, and Numerus Kobold as "Maculati" Kobolds, though I can't figure out what Maculati means (Elm Kobolds perhaps?). For the gnolls I've had less luck at translating them but the Hilaris Gnoll they have as Ilari (Which I think means "High" or "Shining"), and the others I think are just "Northern" and "Southern" Gnolls. Well, "Ilare" is just a translation of "Hilaris" from Latin -- same meaning, Laughing (similar meaning to Hyena Ridens, which is a type of Hyena). "Maculato" means Spotted. > Do the numerus kobold use atrughi style names? being that their culture originated there? Yes, much like the Red Orcs. GP ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:24:51 -0500 From: Greg Weatherup Subject: Mystaran Numismatics - Minrothad Aloha, (This topic is split off from an earlier one, for earlier postings see "Mys= taran Numismatics - Karameikos") I'm still a bit wary about trying to takle Minrothad, but here is an initia= l attempt, first I'll put out the basic units then try for an explanation o= f why: 1 Crona (Gold) =3D 2.5 Electrum Byds (Electrum) =3D 20 Silver Byds (Silver)= =3D 20 Silver Querts (Silver) =3D 200 Copper Querts (Copper) =3D 400 Plen = (Copper) Crona =3D 20sp Electrum Byd =3D 8sp Silver Byd =3D 1sp Silver Quert =3D 1sp Copper Quert =3D 1cp Plen =3D 1/2cp Originally, both New Alphatia and Harbortown adopted a system whereby a Byd= (Originally Gold?) was worth so many Querts (originally silver?) which was= worth so many Plen (Copper). Over time the two city states suffered diffe= rent rates of inflation, till by unification one Byd of the one suffering m= ore inflation, which was now debased to Silver, became set as equal to a Qu= ert of the other. Likewise the one suffering more inflation, its Quert (no= w debased to Copper) was only worth a tenth that of the other's Silver Quer= t. The one suffering less inflation did still have some inflation, as evid= enced by their Byd being debased to Electrum. (RW inspiration longterm Mid= eavil France and England, while England did suffer inflation, France suffer= ed a lot more). Now the Crona, introduced by the Alphatian colonists as a unit above the By= d (based on their Crown), and was originally counterstamped/countermarked A= lphatian Crowns, but gradually other countries gold coins were improted and= used as well (all properly counterstamped/counterpunched), until the Minro= thadi started producing their own coins. how's this sound? Again I didn't have many sources, so if anything in cann= on is contrary to this let me know. Greg W. On 28 Feb 2008, Atila Pires dos Santos wrote: >> hmm.. this now gives me some ideas for reconciling Minrothad's currency >> system.... >> >> As for the Crona/Crown, perhaps the two human groups and the elves >> de-facto adopted a common trade coin for the area, the Gold Crona, possi= bly >> even based on the Alphatian gold Crown? Thus later spreading the >> Crona/Crown to their new trading partners in Traladara? > > > Yes, I had completely forgotten that Alphatia also have a gold coin called Crown! Yes, that's a great idea, indeed, especially since neither nithians nor insuldal elves have the tradition of mint coins =3D) --=20 Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:02:51 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C1tila_Pires_dos_Santos?= Subject: Re: Mystaran Numismatics - Minrothad On 2/29/08, Greg Weatherup wrote: > > > Originally, both New Alphatia and Harbortown adopted a system whereby a > Byd (Originally Gold?) was worth so many Querts (originally silver?) which > was worth so many Plen (Copper). Over time the two city states suffered > different rates of inflation, till by unification one Byd of the one > suffering more inflation, which was now debased to Silver, became set as > equal to a Quert of the other. Likewise the one suffering more inflation, > its Quert (now debased to Copper) was only worth a tenth that of the other's > Silver Quert. The one suffering less inflation did still have some > inflation, as evidenced by their Byd being debased to Electrum. (RW > inspiration longterm Mideavil France and England, while England did suffer > inflation, France suffered a lot more). I think that's a very interesting idea, indeed. But what are the origins of the Byd, Querts and Plens? =) Now the Crona, introduced by the Alphatian colonists as a unit above the Byd > (based on their Crown), and was originally counterstamped/countermarked > Alphatian Crowns, but gradually other countries gold coins were improted and > used as well (all properly counterstamped/counterpunched), until the > Minrothadi started producing their own coins. BTW, do you think the glantrian platinun Crown and ostland gold Krona should also share a same common origin? =) how's this sound? Again I didn't have many sources, so if anything in > cannon is contrary to this let me know. AFAIK, it's ok, contrasting it to canon. A more interesting and realistic (and complex ;) ) way to imagine the mystaran currencies =) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:35:03 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C1tila_Pires_dos_Santos?= Subject: Re: Goblinoid subraces On 2/29/08, Greg Weatherup wrote: > > > wow, thank you for sending the discriptions along. I'm working on a > Mystara races in 3e players options page, so that will come in very handy. No prob ;) BTW, let me know if you find that adaptation for lupins useful, or if there's any problem or umbalanced breeds =) I have been following the Italian Mystaran Demographics posts at the italian > forums at 25edition, (I don't speak Italian, but with difficulty I can read > a little of it), and I had always wondered why the assigned the names they > did to the subraces. In case your not aware of it they call (assuming my > translations are good) the Rapidus Kobolds as Hill Kobolds (though they > don't seem to show any in the KW), Militaris Kobolds as Mountain Kobolds, > and Numerus Kobold as "Maculati" Kobolds, though I can't figure out what > Maculati means (Elm Kobolds perhaps?). For the gnolls I've had less luck at > translating them but the Hilaris Gnoll they have as Ilari (Which I think > means "High" or "Shining"), and the others I think are just "Northern" and > "Southern" Gnolls. Actually yes, I wasn't aware of that, thanks! I didn't write much about the kobolds, especially because I couldn't find any good RW inspiration for then besides being chihuahua-like creatues. OTOH, I think those gnolls subraces fit quite well with those hyena subspecies (actually I guess that was GAZ10 intention, although not very obvious). Do the numerus kobold use atrughi style names? being that their culture > originated there? As GP said, I think they should indeed have atruaghin-like names, just like the Red Orcs, and also just like the gnolls of El Grande Carrascal and goblins of the Badlands =) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 28 Feb 2008 to 29 Feb 2008 (#2008-36) ***************************************************************