Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 29 Jul 2008 to 4 Aug 2008 (#2008-48) From: MYSTARA-L automatic digest system Date: 05/08/2008, 17:00 To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 2 messages totalling 447 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Mystara and other worlds (planar travelling etc) (2) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:59:41 -0300 From: "Vinicius Rodrigues de Moraes (USP Solar Team)" Subject: Re: Mystara and other worlds (planar travelling etc) Very nice to hear from you again, Jason. Very uyseful stuff, I will check them! Is this "Alfheim" the elven kingdom? Thank you very much! -- ---------------------- Vini, 10th-level wild mage, Bach enthusiast, solar "raycer" On 7/23/08, Mortus wrote: > > Hi Vinni, > I also recall reading in the alfheim gaz, of two connections to outer > plains called alfheim and svartalfheim, these also come from nordic > mythology, I know there wasn't much detail about them though. > > The following link may be of use if you wish to flesh out any nordic > elements of the cosmology. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niflheim > and of course there is information of use on the vaults. > http://pandius.com/niflheim.html > > Jason. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vinicius Rodrigues de Moraes (USP Solar > Team)" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:02 PM > Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Mystara and other worlds (planar travelling etc) > > > REALLY precious! All this cool info coming from your mind w/o reading any >> books. >> >> It seems very exciting! And also a good starting point to this planar >> adventuring I'm planning. >> >> Whenever you can send more info, it will be higly appreciated. >> >> Cheers and thx! >> >> Vini >> >> >> On 7/23/08, Mortus wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Vinni, >>> >>> As I said, I don't have any books handy, in the process of a long >>> protracted move to a new house. >>> The basic premise was from the northern reaches Gaz. There was a witch in >>> a >>> bog somewhere in the middle of Sodderfjord, near the gnollheim hills i >>> think, who abducted the son of a local Jarl for sacrifice to Hel, she had >>> a >>> gate to Niffelheim, which is the plane where Hel has her domain. >>> It's a frozen tundra, populated by giants, trolls, gnolls etc.. >>> there is a river called vergilmere, whose water is poisonus, yet a second >>> sip brings back to life. >>> There is a tunnel that leads down to Hels dominion which is guarded by >>> Garmr a three headed immortal hound, then a river of blades to cross, >>> then a >>> dome of snakes, once inside the dome you are in Hels home. >>> All as farn as I can remember, can't remember whether all this info was >>> in >>> the Gaz or fleshed out from other sources. >>> I know the adventure was based on an outline in the Gaz. >>> Spellings of names may not be exact either. >>> Maybe somebody with ready access to Northern reaches Gaz can find out for >>> you, or if not and you can wait I might be able to dig it out over the >>> next >>> few days. >>> Jason >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vinicius Rodrigues de Moraes (USP >>> Solar >>> Team)" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:23 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Mystara and other worlds (planar travelling etc) >>> >>> >>> Dear Mortus/Jason, >>> >>>> >>>> I thank you for the answer and ask for more details about the gate and >>>> all. >>>> >>>> (Never heard of Niffleheim BTW.) >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ---------------------- >>>> Vini, 10th-level wild mage, Bach enthusiast, solar "raycer" >>>> >>>> >>>> On 7/19/08, Mortus wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> hi, >>>>> I don't have any books handy at the moment, but I seem to recall an >>>>> early >>>>> adventure I ran using the marsh in soderfjord as a gate to Niffleheim, >>>>> which >>>>> would be an outer plane I guess. >>>>> Anyway the Gazzeteers are full of references like these that point to >>>>> links >>>>> to planes, both inner and outer. >>>>> Jason. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vinicius Rodrigues de Moraes (USP >>>>> Solar >>>>> Team)" >>>>> To: >>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 1:32 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Mystara and other worlds (planar travelling etc) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 5:11 AM, Giampaolo Agosta < >>>>> agathokles@gmail.com >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> 2008/7/18 Vinicius Rodrigues de Moraes (USP Solar Team) < >>>>>> >>>>>> vinimagus@gmail.com>: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Dear GP, Inner Planes = Elemental Planes? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes. It seems to me that the elemental themes are quite strong in >>>>>>> Mystara (the Spheres, the Alphatians and Flaems, Glantrian magic, >>>>>>> Undersea and Top Ballista, Ierendi and Ylaruam all point there to >>>>>>> some >>>>>>> extent). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Very interesting. Will research about that. >>>>>> >>>>>> I used a group of elemental mages in Karameikos (not the most adequate >>>>>> world, b t back then it was the only kingdom I knew, the only box I >>>>>> had). >>>>>> Their location on the map created a cross and, of course, all the >>>>>> monsters >>>>>> were related to the concerning element (someone recently said here >>>>>> this >>>>>> was >>>>>> very "cliche", hehehe - well, I was a newbie DM...). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > Just like the fellas in "Journey to the Centre of the Earth" >>>>>> entered >>>>>> >>>>>>> > by >>>>>>> > a >>>>>>> > volcano and came back out by another, people from Entropy might > >>>>>>> enter >>>>>>> > Ravenloft from say Korezsgy and come back from there (what is of > >>>>>>> course >>>>>>> far >>>>>>> > from normal stuff) to Glantri. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "People from Entropy" as in Fiends or worshippers of Entropic >>>>>>> Immortals? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> GP >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I was thinking of the followers, but honestly it could be the Fiends >>>>>>> >>>>>> too. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers! >>>>>> Vini >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> ******************************************************************** >> The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp >> The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com >> To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM >> with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. >> >> > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:02:52 +0100 From: Mortus Subject: Re: Mystara and other worlds (planar travelling etc) Hi Vinni, This is Alfheim the outer plane part of the nordic pantheon, Though it states there are a number of permanent gates to Alfheim of the known world. Jason ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vinicius Rodrigues de Moraes (USP Solar Team)" To: Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Mystara and other worlds (planar travelling etc) > Very nice to hear from you again, Jason. > > Very uyseful stuff, I will check them! > > Is this "Alfheim" the elven kingdom? > > Thank you very much! > > > -- > ---------------------- > Vini, 10th-level wild mage, Bach enthusiast, solar "raycer" > > > On 7/23/08, Mortus wrote: >> >> Hi Vinni, >> I also recall reading in the alfheim gaz, of two connections to outer >> plains called alfheim and svartalfheim, these also come from nordic >> mythology, I know there wasn't much detail about them though. >> >> The following link may be of use if you wish to flesh out any nordic >> elements of the cosmology. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niflheim >> and of course there is information of use on the vaults. >> http://pandius.com/niflheim.html >> >> Jason. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vinicius Rodrigues de Moraes (USP Solar >> Team)" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:02 PM >> Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Mystara and other worlds (planar travelling etc) >> >> >> REALLY precious! All this cool info coming from your mind w/o reading any >>> books. >>> >>> It seems very exciting! And also a good starting point to this planar >>> adventuring I'm planning. >>> >>> Whenever you can send more info, it will be higly appreciated. >>> >>> Cheers and thx! >>> >>> Vini >>> >>> >>> On 7/23/08, Mortus wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi Vinni, >>>> >>>> As I said, I don't have any books handy, in the process of a long >>>> protracted move to a new house. >>>> The basic premise was from the northern reaches Gaz. There was a witch in >>>> a >>>> bog somewhere in the middle of Sodderfjord, near the gnollheim hills i >>>> think, who abducted the son of a local Jarl for sacrifice to Hel, she had >>>> a >>>> gate to Niffelheim, which is the plane where Hel has her domain. >>>> It's a frozen tundra, populated by giants, trolls, gnolls etc.. >>>> there is a river called vergilmere, whose water is poisonus, yet a second >>>> sip brings back to life. >>>> There is a tunnel that leads down to Hels dominion which is guarded by >>>> Garmr a three headed immortal hound, then a river of blades to cross, >>>> then a >>>> dome of snakes, once inside the dome you are in Hels home. >>>> All as farn as I can remember, can't remember whether all this info was >>>> in >>>> the Gaz or fleshed out from other sources. >>>> I know the adventure was based on an outline in the Gaz. >>>> Spellings of names may not be exact either. >>>> Maybe somebody with ready access to Northern reaches Gaz can find out for >>>> you, or if not and you can wait I might be able to dig it out over the >>>> next >>>> few days. >>>> Jason >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vinicius Rodrigues de Moraes (USP >>>> Solar >>>> Team)" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:23 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Mystara and other worlds (planar travelling etc) >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Mortus/Jason, >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I thank you for the answer and ask for more details about the gate and >>>>> all. >>>>> >>>>> (Never heard of Niffleheim BTW.) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ---------------------- >>>>> Vini, 10th-level wild mage, Bach enthusiast, solar "raycer" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 7/19/08, Mortus wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> hi, >>>>>> I don't have any books handy at the moment, but I seem to recall an >>>>>> early >>>>>> adventure I ran using the marsh in soderfjord as a gate to Niffleheim, >>>>>> which >>>>>> would be an outer plane I guess. >>>>>> Anyway the Gazzeteers are full of references like these that point to >>>>>> links >>>>>> to planes, both inner and outer. >>>>>> Jason. >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vinicius Rodrigues de Moraes (USP >>>>>> Solar >>>>>> Team)" >>>>>> To: >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 1:32 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Mystara and other worlds (planar travelling etc) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 5:11 AM, Giampaolo Agosta < >>>>>> agathokles@gmail.com >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2008/7/18 Vinicius Rodrigues de Moraes (USP Solar Team) < >>>>>>> >>>>>>> vinimagus@gmail.com>: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Dear GP, Inner Planes = Elemental Planes? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes. It seems to me that the elemental themes are quite strong in >>>>>>>> Mystara (the Spheres, the Alphatians and Flaems, Glantrian magic, >>>>>>>> Undersea and Top Ballista, Ierendi and Ylaruam all point there to >>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>> extent). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Very interesting. Will research about that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I used a group of elemental mages in Karameikos (not the most adequate >>>>>>> world, b t back then it was the only kingdom I knew, the only box I >>>>>>> had). >>>>>>> Their location on the map created a cross and, of course, all the >>>>>>> monsters >>>>>>> were related to the concerning element (someone recently said here >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> very "cliche", hehehe - well, I was a newbie DM...). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > Just like the fellas in "Journey to the Centre of the Earth" >>>>>>> entered >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > by >>>>>>>> > a >>>>>>>> > volcano and came back out by another, people from Entropy might > >>>>>>>> enter >>>>>>>> > Ravenloft from say Korezsgy and come back from there (what is of > > >>>>>>>> course >>>>>>>> far >>>>>>>> > from normal stuff) to Glantri. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "People from Entropy" as in Fiends or worshippers of Entropic >>>>>>>> Immortals? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> GP >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was thinking of the followers, but honestly it could be the Fiends >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> too. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers! >>>>>>> Vini >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> ******************************************************************** >>> The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp >>> The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com >>> To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM >>> with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. >>> >>> >> > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 29 Jul 2008 to 4 Aug 2008 (#2008-48) **************************************************************