Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 21 Mar 2008 to 25 Mar 2008 (#2008-4) From: MYSTARA-L automatic digest system Date: 26/03/2008, 18:00 To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There is 1 message totalling 131 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Mystaran Numismatics ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 09:01:26 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C1tila_Pires_dos_Santos?= Subject: Re: Mystaran Numismatics On 3/20/08, Greg Weatherup wrote: > > > >Either way, I'd still have a more tradicional coinage for them, even > because > >IIRC, HWR2 Kingdom of Nithia don't give any clue about this issue and we > >could use anything ;) > > I definately agree. =3D) > >I meant the hellenistic coins, for both "late classical" Traldars, > Nithians > >(both carring it with then into the HW) and Doulakki and early Milenian > >Empire (that may not be the same we have for the milenians at the HW). > > ok, I follow now. Should we make Nithian coins based on RW [Egyptian] > hellenistic system then? (Obols, various multiples of Drachma/Drachmae, > Mina/Minae, and Talents)? I think it's a good idea, at least for Nithia ;) The Traldars, Doulakki and Milenians coins may be inspired by other helenistic nations rather than the ptolemaic egypt ;) > Will Terentias have it's own coinage? How do you picture their culture? = =3D) > > yes, like all the Thyatian Grand- and Arch- Duchies, it is allowed it's > own domestic system to circulate alongside the Imperial one. Probably wi= th > some mix of Reis, Maravedis, Milreis, Reals, "Piece's of Eight", Doubloon= 's, > & Escudos (probably not going to use all of those as it would be too > busy). I had pegged its culture as Ispan and Pirate influenced though I > would kind like to link it's coinage to something else (either Minrothadi= or > some predecessor). What is the descent of the older human families of th= e > Terentian population? (asides form the more recent and probably majority > Thyatian groups) Nithian? Traldar? Doulaki? Taymoran? etc.? I agree with the way you see Terentias, especially because I tend to see Thyatis much more like the Holy Empire during renaissance than Rome itself: the main problems with this idea (pictures showing people using roman-like clothes and armours (from different periods) and latin (or latinesque) names) that DotE have could be explained by the renaissance desire to look like romans and greeks; probably they're only translations of their names from their usual variation of Thyatian (italian) to the "Old Thyatian" (latin) and paintings that don't truly reflect the clothes and armours thyatians wear nowadays (quite like renaissance paintings). This, BTW, coul= d help explaining why the most powerful culture of the KW is quite different from all others of the region (being the only one that's ancient/classical)= , and even thyatians offshots are obviously modern or, at least, late medieval (ispans/espas/verdans at the SC, Caurenze and even Kol, the HK and everything that's shown in K:KoA), which follows the KW stantard. BTW, DotE also have pictures showing late medieval/modern clothes as well... I guess Thyatis could also fit the "byzantine" role, but wouldn't that make it even more different from what's shown that make it a M-Holy Empire? Well, back to Terentias ;) Originally me and GP were working on the Ispan timeline using Terentias as it's main stronghold (at least until 500 AC), but we changed it in order to make it simplier: now Ylaruam itself is the "Old Ispa=F1ola" and Terentias = was settled only in 500 AC (here's the complete idea: http://www.pandius.com/belcthr2.html ). According to the older idea, Terentias originally have a M-Basque culture, that could explain some basqu= e words that we have on our M-Spanish languages. But since we dropped this idea, it's more likely that this original M-Basque culture existed somewher= e around the Altan Tepes, leaving Terentias open for any other ancient colonist, if needed. We also used Terentias as the origin for the M-Portuguese people, the Verdans, which I guess may fit nicely with your idea. BTW, they would likel= y use most of the coins you listed above (*Maravedi* (a.k.a. *Morabitino*) an= d *Dobr=F5es* (Doubloons) to a minor extent, but *Real* (*R=E9is* is the plur= al of *Real*, and *Milr=E9is* means "a hundred *r=E9is*") and Escudos should be extremely common names for coins, and the same is true for *Cruzado*. Although *Dinheiro* may also be used (it comes from roman Denarius), it means currently "money" in portuguese and may sound somewhat ackward to modern standards... Others names could also be used, shuch as Patacas or Vint=E9ns. Either way (as a M-Spain or M-Portugal), I guess we could use the coinage o= f the Savage Baronies and Nueva Ispa=F1ola as a model for it ;) > I hope we will have soon one for the SC city-states and the LB Trading > Company/Dunwick ;) > > I think you and GP had posted several ideas for the LB coinage, but I > didn't seem to of written it down, I'll have to go back through the old > digests here. I can send them to you later, if you want ;) > Actually I do, but I'll have to wait until monday to get home ;) > > oh that would be excellent, thank you very much! Unfortunatelly, I don't have it here, sorry (which is odd, it should be her= e somewhere...) =3D( ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 21 Mar 2008 to 25 Mar 2008 (#2008-4) **************************************************************