Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 4 Apr 2011 to 5 Apr 2011 (#2011-18) From: MYSTARA-L automatic digest system Date: 06/04/2011, 17:00 To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 2 messages totalling 90 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Caves of Chaos Ideas? 2. Black Eagle Barony Demon Arc ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 07:43:59 -0700 From: Joaquin Menchaca Subject: Re: Caves of Chaos Ideas? =0A> I was under the impression the Caves of Chaos and the Keep were =0A> c= anonically placed in the mountains between the borders of Karameikos, =0A> = Darokin, Thyatis and Ylaruam.=A0 Although it's certainly possible to use = =0A> it nearly anywhere and your idea is quite do-able.=0A=0AIt would be mo= st appropriate to put it at Castellan. However, I am out of ideas to link = it with something. I would have to make it a cross Thyatian campaign.=0A= =0A> I would try linking it with the classic AD&D Slave Lords series, Lost= =0A> Caverns of Tzojcanth(sp? - sorry, my hardcopy is at home) and Castle= =0A> Caldwell if you're interested in a loose-knit campaign.=A0 The linking= =0A> elements being Iron Ring, the Black Eagle Baron and Bargle.=0A=0AFunny= you mention that, I had a B10 Nights Dark Terror, and I liked with with th= e Slave Lords and potential linkages to Honor Island and Isle of Dread, and= some Ravenloft ghost ship type of adventures, or Cuthulu sea monster stuff= . I expanded the Iron Ring beyond just Karameikos.=0A=0AWest coast is easy= for a short-term campaign, where I place them do hooks with Bargle.=0A=0A>= I have no problem with the idea that there are several borderlands =0A> ke= eps. Is that not fairly realistic?=A0 Even the architecture could be =0A> v= ery similar if they were all constructed by the Duke or during the =0A> Thy= atian occupation.=0A=0AI also downloaded a Caverns of Chaos, which I would = do, but don't have time to expand it. =0A=0AIf I had a serious amount of t= ime, I could go two routes (A) west coast linkage with Black Eagle Barony, = and do a demon invasion ala Diablo style, or (B) extended Karameikos/Thyati= an underworld, that leads to hidden gnomish empire, realm of the Dark Ones,= Shadow Elves, realms of the Ilithid, Shadowmancers, Earth Benders, and oth= er inner Mystara realms, until adventurers reach Hollow World.=0A=0AI'll do= (A), because the adventures want a dungeon crawl, but I can talk of sister= Caverns of Choas...=0A=0AThe thing is, monsters don't collect gold and hoa= rd it so that they can be slaughtered by adventures, they trade it and use = it, if they cannot use it to buy goods, then money has no value. So either= they do commerce with the Barony, or mumhuhuhahaha, the Innerworld of Myst= ara.=0A=0A=0A=0AOn 4 April 2011 03:21, Joaquin Menchaca wrote:=0A=0A> Hello Folks.=0A>=0A> I was wondering, for Caves of Chaos = (from B2 Keep on the Borderlands). Any=0A> ideas for linking it and making = it part of Karameikos (or other lands).=0A>=0A> I was thinking of a rough i= dea, of placing it near Black Eagle Barony,=0A> where the chaos is a nuisan= ce to distract Western forces of Karameikos.=0A>=A0 They are being supplied= by Black Eagle Barony.=0A>=0A>=A0 - Joaquin ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 09:46:31 -0700 From: Joaquin Menchaca Subject: Black Eagle Barony Demon Arc Campaign Ideas & Events: - Ludwig's advisor Bargle secretly releases a demon from his imprisonment. - Baron Ludwig descends into madness as he struggles to resist the demon's possession. - Increasingly deranged, Baron Ludwig makes a series of mad random decrees and incorporates goblinoids to police his barony. - Bargle kidnaps Valen Karameikos, terrified child is possessed by the demon. Possessed demon child rescued by heroes, returned to loving family of Karameikos. - Baron Ludwig declares war on Five Shires, sends general and army on campaign to invade Five Shires (as per plot of demon to cause downfall of Barony and defeat Karameikos and greater Alphatia from within) - Cult of the Damned formed, recruits humanoids into ranks and send them throughout region to convert other tribes, coordinates acts of terror aligned with campaign to destabilize regional powers. - Iron Ring slavers coordinate with humanoids, offer bounty for captured humans or hin. Success allows Iron Ring slavers to expand outside of borders, establish island headquarters on secret island. - Lesser demons unleashed upon the world, cultist expand to villages around Karameikos, and Five Shires. - Players tricked into opening a demon gate, that unleashes 3 greater demons upon Mystara, each demon manipulates local kingdoms and sets up power base, to corrupt the lands, and summon forth a demonic army. What is great about all these major events, as that they can be stopped, or significantly alter future chain of events. Two obvious target empire if Hule and Heldann Freeholds (Hattians conquer there, but become conquered themselves). As movement, and events are taking place, players can see changes, discover patterns. The background events give rise to tons of adventures, from tribal civil wars, Iron Ring mechanization, seemingly random tribal raids coincide with other events, disposes of Barons, causes shift in authority and power. Tribes vanquished by unknown heroes can be well place by greater forces. This brings out a religious arc with Inquisitors [1] and Paladins [2] (Church of Karameikos), and also Demon-Witch [3][4] Hunters (Rangers [5]) (secret society affiliated with Zirchev whose secret language is a dialect of Nithia). All manner of heroes, on cause of Thyatians or Traladarans or for their own purposes. Elves have inquisitive about future threat to natural kingdoms, Hin would be protecting their homelands, and Dwarves / Gnomes affected by power growing in the innerworld of Mystara. This also allows some creation with demon-augmented humanoids, like Fire Kolbolds. :) - Joaquin Menchaca [1] http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/advanced/baseClasses/inquisitor.html [2] http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/classes/paladin.html [3] http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/13/13404.phtml [4] http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/advanced/baseClasses/witch.html [5] http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/classes/ranger.html ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 4 Apr 2011 to 5 Apr 2011 (#2011-18) *************************************************************