Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 23 Feb 2012 to 27 Feb 2012 (#2012-8) From: MYSTARA-L automatic digest system Date: 28/02/2012, 19:00 To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There is 1 message totalling 103 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Alfheim-Aengmor ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:05:50 -0800 From: Russel Holmes Subject: Re: Alfheim-Aengmor IMO I would find it completely believable that there would be elements from Alfheim that would be interested in pursuing an aggressive re-taking of Alfheim. These would probably be from the lesser clans with some holdouts from the major clans, especially since the major clans split up between migration to either Wendar or Karamekios. Darokin makes the most logical place for these fringe groups to holdout and plan their attacks into now Aengmor. Darokin would also have a vested interest into (at worst) openly or clandestinely supporting these groups as Alfheim provided at least a predictable(-ish) diplomatic and mercantile trading partner, as opposed to a xenophobic and unpredictable element such as the Shadow Elf regime. Undoubtably, the DDC would send emissaries to Aengmor's regents if for nothing else than to establish a rapport and determine if what sort of future the Shadow Elf occupation of Aengmor held for Darokin as a whole. This concern becomes especially more pronounced since a third of Darokin (and potentially the Capitol) is under threat if the Shadow Elves aren't content holding onto Aengmor itself. I figure the DDC and the Merchant Houses themselves would do their utmost to figure out what benefits Darokin (aka themselves) before *choosing* a side. This is especially true if their machinations become known to the regents of Aengmor/freedom fighters of Alfheim (depending on who is more likely to win Alfheim/Aengmor). Also, Darokin at this point is still reeling from the Master's & Thar's armies, both of which have severely weakened Darokin's infrastructure (in my own campaigns, nobody has ever successfully beaten the Master further West than Akorros, which lays in ashes during the Master's withdrawal after his trouncing at Darokin), plus the damage done by both the meteor and Thar's rampage through northern Darokin. I also remember that at some point Aengmor extends an invitation to the surviving Alfheim refugees in order to slow/reverse the damage that the Aengmor magics have wrought on the Canolbalth forest itself (can't remember which year this happens). Either way, it should either influence the clans to either assist the "invaders" in "correcting" the magic that sustains Canolbarth, or serve to polarize and unite their efforts against the Aengmor regime. In OD&D elves are lawful or neutral which should give them a reason to be receptive to this request. In 2nd Ed and 3rd edition should give the Chaotic Good nature of elves a lack of cohesiveness on dealing with this issue. No matter how it plays out, it gives an enterprising DM an amazing leeway in designing a campaign (or campaigns) focused on this issue. On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Dave Keyser wrote: > > Which is, IMO, a very likely direction any such resistance would go. The > > shadow elves didn't just seize the land, they mutated it turning the forest > > into something hostile the Alfheim elves. On top of that the Canolbarth > > forest was artificial in the first place, requiring powerful magic to > > maintain the weather patterns necessary to maintain it. > > > > So you can't just eject the invaders, you also have to transform the > > forest. Unlikely the Alfheim elves can commit the resources to accomplish > > both, as a significant fraction of their numbers are likely willing to just > > remain in safer lands to the north or south. So for those who are willing > > to carry on the fight, revenge attacks are much easier. > > > > Also, long term the forest is likely doomed as weather patterns change, so > > for the long-lived elves the easiest strategy is just to wait for the new > > forest to die. > > > > It would be interesting if Ylaruam became a lush tropical nation. > > > > Dave > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Giampaolo Agosta > > >wrote: > > >> > > On 02/19/2012 05:15 AM, Henrique Bernardes wrote: >> > > >>> > >> >>> > >> The thing that is drawing my DM resources is that I was wondering if >>> > >> there would be any resistence elves fighting to regain their land and >>> > >> help from other countries. How is this on your Mystara? >>> > >> >> > > >> > > Yes, it is rather likely. I haven't get to it in my campaigns (we tend to >> > > play in the 995-1005 AC range), but in the Mystaran Almanacs there is > > such >> > > a resistance group (the Alfheim Avengers). In the MA portrayal, the >> > > resistance evolves to border terrorism. >> > > >> > > GP > > -- The nice part about being a pessimist is that you are constantly being either proven right or pleasantly surprised. -- George F. Will ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 23 Feb 2012 to 27 Feb 2012 (#2012-8) **************************************************************