========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:25:20 +0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Colin Wilson Subject: Five shires and hin clans MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi there, I was re-reading my copy of the shires gazeteer last night and came accross an oddity. It says in parentheses that a full table of the clans is given on the back of the shires main map. Well, it ain't on mine. Is this a misprint specific to a certain number of the gazeteers or were they all like this? More importantly is that clan information available anywhere. Cheers, Col. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:40:20 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: Mystara's historical/present NPCs and villains MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Stalker wrote: > Ahh, fresh blood! Welcome ;) SEE! I KNEW IT! ALPHATIANS FEED UPON BLOOD! > Always happy to see some new blood here (down Morphail!) :) > > - The Stalker I KNEW IT! I KNEW IT! Warning: This file has been written with Thyatian Propaganda Wordfile. The effective truth of the message could have been spoiled by the use of this writing program, so you are warned! 8-) Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:00:10 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Paul George Dooley Subject: Re: War Machine & Sea Machine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Paul makes a lot of valid points in his email, and I > > like what he has worked out. Since BR is calculated > > per unit, > > did he say that? I thought it was per force. > Well not specifically, but since I did describe forces as being of differing trooptypes it was fairly implicit in what I wrote. > Now this seems wrong. does anyone know why if magic is > so all powerful it is so underutilized in mystarian > mass combat. I have some ideas. Having played some > wargames, magic can be a bitch. But I'd rather not > have a mage anyway, just make sure you kill theirs. > what you can have insted of a mage is to me just as > useful. Fast troops, artillery and longbows take out > an unprotected magic user pretty fast. given the > serverly limited no. of high level magic users in the > world, one that is interested enough to participate in > a battle is fairly rare (Alphiatia included for > reasons described later) low level mages have few > spells and die easily. I don't see them going into > battle in a hurry. say a fireball at a unit of tower > sheilds would in reality take out maybe 2 ranks. 3 if > your lucky. remember the rules for suit armour, I > think this is a simmilar defence mecanism, just a > bigger version. This means about 20 men. In a small > army it is important, in a big one, doesn't matter. > cloudkill and such allow for greater damage but also > more risk, and more time to get out the way. It'll > brefly break up formation and in a big army will not > do too much damage. I would also stress the optional > rules for Mana manipulation that are on shawns site. > Thus any spell could backfire and create problems for > your own army. (you sommon a posionous cloud and just > as you are setting it on it's way it moves towards > you, you see three drained but happy looking wizards > stairing at you. If I remember correctly low level > wizards are pretty good at it too. Funnily enough most of the direct attack spells aren't the real problem. Altering the terrain, breaking up your enemies formations, and sowing confusion in his ranks are much more effective. Illusions, Walls, and Form spells, along with summond creatures attacking your opponent rear that are immune to his troops weapons are much more deadly to him than having a few fireballs tossed his way. BTW you use lightning against towershield and suit armour, attacking diagonally across the unit to cause maximum disruption of course, fireball is best against cavalry as it spooks the horses. > IIRC About Alphainian magic users it is stated that > they don't gennerally join the army and generally > persue personal interests insted. Thus it is only when > it is threaterned and/or angry that Alphatia's full > might is seen. But if that doesn't happen they only > have a slightly better base of millitary magic users > then the rest of the world. But don't forget their > normal troops arn't that good, so there's a balance. > Those Imperial Boltmen, and 100 men plus units of low level mages fielded by Alphatia, and Glantri, seem to have escaped your notice. 20-40 of them all throwing a sleep spell at a charging opponent quickly turn it into a disorganised rabble massacred by your countercharge. You can do that 4 or 5 more times and still have plenty of magic in reserve too. > > Healing is also a bit tricky- I've > > generally just used the rule of thumb that a single > > cleric and totally heal one person per level, so a > > tenth-level cleric could totally revitalize a fallen > > unit. This assumes that all of the cleric's spells > > have been used and is better for NPCs (PC clerics > > should be healing fallen leaders and the like). M. > > I like. > Not a bad idea. One enterprising PC in a game I ran had an entire spy network just locating and following the movements of any Staff of Health he was aware of as part of his Military Intelligence network. Hamlet I, v, 166 Words to live by? Paul ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 12:20:19 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard?= Subject: Re: Five shires and hin clans In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Colin Wilson wrote: > Hi there, > > I was re-reading my copy of the shires gazeteer last night and came > accross an oddity. It says in parentheses that a full table of the clans > is given on the back of the shires main map. Well, it ain't on mine. Is > this a misprint specific to a certain number of the gazeteers or were they > all like this? More importantly is that clan information available > anywhere. The Clans were not listed in the gaz. However, going through the gaz some time ago, I was able to produce a complete list available from this site: http://home.nvg.org/~hoc/hinc.html PS:I was thinking about making up some traits and clan skills for each clan, but never got around to it. If anyone else does this, please let me know so I can update the list. H�vard Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc "God created man in his image, and then man returned the favour." -Voltaire ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 12:49:11 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard?= Subject: Re: Mystara's historical/present NPCs and villains In-Reply-To: <000201c07e48$5765ac40$4214ebc3@uchicago.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, Andr�s Piquer Otero wrote: > *Old Haldemar, of course. He came back to the Imperial fold just recently > and, for the most part of pusblished materials, just lived an intense > adventuring life (and the PA series is the closest thing Mystara-wise to the > big novel series of other settings) Haldemar is _the_ Mystara celebrity IMO. Mystara never had any popular novels, but the Voyage of the Princes Ark series is the closest we get to that. At one point there was talk about a novel based on VotPA, but since Mystara was closed down, this never happened. Some Gazetteer characters not mentioned yet are: *Aleena Halaran, introduced in the Red Box where she was killed but then she was ressurrected in the Karameikos gazetteer. *Etienne de Ambreville. Our Elminster if any. An Immortal who probably could kick Elminsters ass unless Ed Greenwood was DM when it happened. H�vard Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc "God created man in his image, and then man returned the favour." -Voltaire ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:07:11 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard?= Subject: Re: new Glantri site to discover In-Reply-To: <000d01c07d32$94811c20$b5759ec2@duke> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, thibault sarlat wrote: > Here is the URL: http://www.glantri.fr.st First of all: Great Work! It looks to me like youve all put alot of time and work into this site and I think its a very good idea to have sites dedicated to one single country or area too! Some criticism: 1) The background sucks! Sorry. Actually the background is very nice, but when the writing comes on top of the image, it is very difficult to read. If you put the whole text in a table, it will work much better! 2) I think that if you use a different color on the links that would also be an improvement as alot of people are getting tired of the standard one. Perhaps a darker cream colored font could work? 3) Pictures! Hmm..dont know where you could get them, but any kind of images would definately add to this site. Scanned ones from the gaz might be _tolerated_ by WotC... Anything else would be good too! B/W fan art would be very cool. Anyone on this list volunteering? Okay, alot of criticism here, but I was trying to keep it contructive. That I bother to write this much about a website just means I care :) Let us know when the site is updated! H�vard Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc "God created man in his image, and then man returned the favour." -Voltaire ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:41:23 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: The Stalker Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Subject: Re: Mystara's historical/present NPCs and villains Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:40:20 Caroletti wrote: >The Stalker wrote: > >> Ahh, fresh blood! Welcome ;) > >SEE! I KNEW IT! ALPHATIANS FEED UPON BLOOD! > >> Always happy to see some new blood here (down Morphail!) :) >> >> - The Stalker > >I KNEW IT! I KNEW IT! > > >Warning: >This file has been written with Thyatian Propaganda Wordfile. The effective truth >of the message could have been spoiled by the use of this writing program, so you >are warned! >8-) > "could have been" ??? How can you even suggest the possibility that it is not when you mention the word 'Thyatian' ? Warning: This reply has been subjected to Alphatian magic which just *might* have ruined its objectivity! ;) - The Stalker Note: At least I didn't say 'fresh meat' !!! :) Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:01:49 +0200 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Eyal Fleminger Subject: Re: Trail Map Weather Program? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I considered doing something of the kind. I'll probably get around t it in a month or so Eyal >From: "David S. Leland" >Reply-To: Mystara >To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM >Subject: [MYSTARA] Trail Map Weather Program? >Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 17:30:03 -0800 > >Hi fellow Mystarans, > > Just wondering whether anyone has written a program to generate >weather for Mystaran locales based on the tables given on the Trail >Maps? > >Magus Coeruleus > >******************************************************************** >The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp >The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ >To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM >with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 15:42:50 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Jacob Skytte Subject: Teachers of the GSoM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just browsing through my Player's Survival Kit, wondering what I should = do with it, I noticed Handout #3: Final Report Card for the Great School = of Magic. Apart from the very interesting list of subjects, there is = also a list of the teachers. Has anybody out there done additional work = on these characters (whose names I mostly have a hard time reading, btw, = could someone assist me). I got Harald Haaskins as Grand Master, of = course, then there's Rhogere Zelipieti (?), Master of Abjuration Jasirol Lightfellow, Master of Alteration or Transmuting Marchesio Philipe, Master of Conjuration & Summoning ??? (seriously), Master of Divination Ingnia (?) di Carenveni, Master of Enchantments & Charms Werghor (?) Laeten, Master of Evocation & Invocation Veron Chonese, Master of Illusions & Phantasms Bertil (?) Gam, Master of Necromancy Jacob Skytte scythe@wanadoo.dk ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 08:10:13 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: John Calvin Subject: Fan Art (was new Glantri site to discover) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ditto on the great work!! >> Some criticism: 1) The background sucks! Sorry. Actually the background is very nice, but when the writing comes on top of the image, it is very difficult to read. If you put the whole text in a table, it will work much better! << Yeah, I'm getting the same problem. Screen res = 1024 x 768. Browser = Netscape 4.75. >> 3) Pictures! Hmm..dont know where you could get them, but any kind of images would definately add to this site. Scanned ones from the gaz might be _tolerated_ by WotC... Anything else would be good too! B/W fan art would be very cool. Anyone on this list volunteering? << I'd be happy to do a few character sketches if anyone is interested. Head shots are fairly quick and easy to do, and I think they could spruce up a web page quite nicely. Full body shots take a bit more time. I've also done a few illustrations for the Tome of Mystara, and the MA (although not as many as I wanted to do), and you'd be welcome to use any of those that the MA does not. I geuss we'll have to wait a little longer to find out which those are. It might also be fun (and useful to others) to put up a site which gathers Mystaran fan art together for others to use. Anyone else out there have time and energy to contribute to this? I'll throw in some of my work, but won't do it all by myself. John ===== Rule #46. If an advisor says to me "My liege, he is but one man. What can one man possibly do?", I will reply "This." and kill the advisor. from "A Guide to Becoming an Evil Overlord" by Peter Anspach __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:13:58 -0600 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Ranma al'Thor Subject: Re: new Glantri site to discover In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, [iso-8859-1] H=E5vard wrote: > On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, thibault sarlat wrote: >=20 > > Here is the URL: http://www.glantri.fr.st >=20 > First of all: Great Work! It looks to me like youve all put alot of time > and work into this site and I think its a very good idea to have sites > dedicated to one single country or area too! >=20 > Some criticism: > 1) The background sucks! Sorry. Actually the background is very nice, but > when the writing comes on top of the image, it is very difficult to read. > If you put the whole text in a table, it will work much better! > Or double-indent it. John Walter Biles : MA-History, ABD, Ph.D Candidate at U. Kansas = =20 ranma@falcon.cc.ukans.edu http://www.dkcomm.net/rhea/falcon.html rhea@maison-otaku.net http://maison-otaku.net/~rhea/ "That all princes shall kiss the foot of the Pope alone."--Dictatus Papae, 11th century ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:23:36 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Ramses Ramirez Subject: Re: Trail Map Weather Program? Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 Hello fellow Mystarans! Weather Program using data from the Trail Maps? hmmmmm. (scratches his head) I do not own the trail maps though I have just about all the individual maps on the Known World and Western Country regions along with the Weather temp ranges for each nation given in the PWAs. I was wondering if this very same info is whats given in the Trail Maps or do the Trail Maps happen to have vital info not included in any of the individual maps or the PWAs. Basically, what I am asking is if one already owns the PWAs/individual maps, is there any need for the Trail Maps? What info exactly is presented in the TMs? I know this is slightly off topic, but the original posting got me curious. Thanks. Lancer ------------------------------------------------------------ Get Your Free Mail Address at http://www.StarWarsEmail.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:26:31 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Chris Furneaux Subject: Re: War Machine & Sea Machine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Funnily enough most of the direct attack spells > aren't the real problem. > Altering the terrain, breaking up your enemies > formations, and sowing > confusion in his ranks are much more effective. > Illusions, Walls, and Form > spells, along with summond creatures attacking your > opponent rear that are > immune to his troops weapons are much more deadly to > him than having a few > fireballs tossed his way. > BTW you use lightning against towershield and > suit armour, attacking > diagonally across the unit to cause maximum > disruption of course, fireball > is best against cavalry as it spooks the horses. Ah... you are a worthy adversery :-) Suit armour would also increase electracal protection. At no point (esspecally in a magical world) should any part of your body be in direct contact with the steel, a large ammount of padding and often leather would seperate the two (I do medieval swordfighting so I pay attention to these things) which would help conduct the electricity through the armour but around the victim(s) protecting them still. send schirmishes against mages, that way they can't hit so many. and meanwhile assalt them in other ways. save your horses for more important matters. sommon a couple of dragons to take out their unit, should rip through the mages at close range, while they would not be so much trouble for fighters. > Those Imperial Boltmen, and 100 men plus units > of low level mages > fielded by Alphatia, and Glantri, seem to have > escaped your notice. 20-40 of > them all throwing a sleep spell at a charging > opponent quickly turn it into > a disorganised rabble massacred by your > countercharge. You can do that 4 or > 5 more times and still have plenty of magic in > reserve too. exactly like hitting the mage unit with flaming artilery. (low level mages don't have any major protections and I imagine mage robes are firly flamable. There's more then one way to skin a mage. Tactics lesson one. don't ever play their game unless your better at it then them. Tactics lesson two. exploit their weaknesses. It is my opinion that magic does not = modern warfare, guns do. magic = revelutionary warfare (one shot, two shot, charge) but there still ain't nuthin' like a buch of peasants with longbows. Modern ground incursion warfare is dictated by the machine gun and automatic weapons. Tanks also have no equivilent in Mystara warfare, except the high level mage and just how many of them there are is debatable, yet alone how many get involved, and that brings me back to the begining, don't piss off a country full of mages unless you have them beaten already and they just don't know it yet. cheers. Chris. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:30:18 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: thibault sarlat Subject: Re: Fan Art (was new Glantri site to discover) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ok ok ok, i'll change the background and the link color. as for the art , i have some ideas in mind and a brand new scanner.... anything you might do would be made available on the site (as long as it concerns Glantri) i am happy to see that the great effort of my two Italian creators were not made in vain. I was just in charge of setting a site to host them. I would also have the autorization of the GPD to put some of their stuff on the site too or to link to them. Thibault Sarlat. ICQ 16622177. homepage http://www.mystara.com.bi Join me at: thibsylv@club-internet.fr or at clenarius@hotmail.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:55:28 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Chris Furneaux Subject: Re: Fan Art (was new Glantri site to discover) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > I'd be happy to do a few character sketches if > anyone is interested. Head shots are > fairly quick and easy to do, and I think they could > spruce up a web page quite nicely. > Full body shots take a bit more time. > I've also done a few illustrations for the Tome of > Mystara, and the MA (although not as > many as I wanted to do), and you'd be welcome to use > any of those that the MA does not. > I geuss we'll have to wait a little longer to find > out which those are. > > It might also be fun (and useful to others) to put > up a site which gathers Mystaran fan > art together for others to use. Anyone else out > there have time and energy to contribute > to this? I'll throw in some of my work, but won't > do it all by myself. I could help there I guess. been working on some computer generated scenery and stuff which if your interested there some at my website. http://www.geocities.com/c_furneaux/render.html I get to play with 3d Studio Max next year so who knows what that'll turn out concidering my fettish with history and the middle ages. I be happy to put togeather the website (easy acess to dreamweaver) without too much trouble, if people think it'd be useful. Chris. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:54:24 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Agathokles Subject: Re: Teachers of the GSoM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jacob Skytte wrote: > > Has anybody out there done additional work on these characters Of course, the GPD :) > (whose names I mostly have a hard time reading, btw, could someone assist me). Rhogene Zelipieti Tasirol Lightfellow Marchesia Philipe Wilhelm Bhes Inguin di Corenveni Derghov Loeten LaVeron Chonere Bertok Gam Have a look at the Glantrian Personnel Division, Masters of the Great School section. We've been working on this characters, though not all of them are ready. http://www.geocities.com/principalities_of_glantri -- Giampaolo Agosta agathokles@libero.it agosta@fusberta.elet.polimi.it http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles/index.htm ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 21:04:47 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Agathokles Subject: Re: new Glantri site to discover MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit H�vard wrote: > > On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, thibault sarlat wrote: > > > Here is the URL: http://www.glantri.fr.st > > First of all: Great Work! It looks to me like youve all put alot of time > and work into this site and I think its a very good idea to have sites > dedicated to one single country or area too! Thanks :) I agree that single country sites can be quite useful - there's more space for local flavour and gazetteer-like depth. > Some criticism: [Thib will handle this problems, since he is the webmaster ;)] > 3) Pictures! > Hmm..dont know where you could get them, but any kind of images would > definately add to this site. Scanned ones from the gaz might be > _tolerated_ by WotC... I'm not too convinced of this... > Anything else would be good too! B/W fan art would be very cool. Anyone on > this list volunteering? Yes, fan art would be great. I don't know about Thib and Giovanni, but I'm totally unable to draw, so I'll have to wait for someone else to illustrate our creation. > Okay, alot of criticism here, but I was trying to keep it contructive. > > That I bother to write this much about a website just means I care :) Thank you for your comments :) -- Giampaolo Agosta agathokles@libero.it agosta@fusberta.elet.polimi.it http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles/index.htm ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 21:20:59 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Agathokles Subject: Re: Fan Art (was new Glantri site to discover) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thibault sarlat wrote: > > i am happy to see that the great effort of my two Italian creators were not > made in vain. Well, most of the credits go to Giovanni. I only did part of the south-western fiefs, and the Lupin population stuff, of course :) > I was just in charge of setting a site to host them. And creating the map, of course :) -- Giampaolo Agosta agathokles@libero.it agosta@fusberta.elet.polimi.it http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles/index.htm ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 21:25:38 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Jacob Skytte Subject: Re: Trail Map Weather Program? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ramses Ramirez wrote: >> Basically, what I am asking is if one already owns the = PWAs/individual maps, is there any need for the Trail Maps? What info = exactly is presented in the TMs? I know this is slightly off topic, but = the original posting got me curious. Thanks.<< The Trail Maps are basically all the maps from the Gazetteers "stitched" = together, plus a bit of the western Isle of Dawn, all in 8-miles/hex. In = addition there's a whole bunch of info along the borders, some of which = is also seen in the PWAs. Among the stuff not found in the PWAs are an = overview of temperature ranges all over the KW (Known World), a system = for determining temp. and weather for the current day, a list of = universities of the KW, altitudes of mountain ranges, dominant winds & = sea currents, a list of Mystaran diseases, and probably some other stuff = I've overlooked. ;)=20 Map-wise, you won't get much news from the TMs if you've got the GAZs, = and the other info is nice, but not essential. Jacob Skytte scythe@wanadoo.dk ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 07:33:29 +1100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: shawn stanley Subject: Re: Trail Map Weather Program? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 16:01 15/01/01 +0200, you wrote: >I considered doing something of the kind. I'll probably get around t it in a >month or so > >Eyal > > >>From: "David S. Leland" >>Reply-To: Mystara >>To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM >>Subject: [MYSTARA] Trail Map Weather Program? >>Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 17:30:03 -0800 >> >>Hi fellow Mystarans, >> >> Just wondering whether anyone has written a program to generate >>weather for Mystaran locales based on the tables given on the Trail >>Maps? a weather generation program was created by Rick La Rue here's his spiel about it. it's not available from his homepage, although I've got a copy - I guess I should ask him whether it's OK to put on the Vaults of Pandius. Mystarian Weather Generator: This is a program I wrote that forecasts weather for fantasy worlds. The original was based on 365 days in a year. This version is specific to Mystara. This actual weather generation is based on rules originally presented in the Wilderness Survival Guide. The program is pretty self explanatory. You need an ASCII text reader to view the results. It save files to a [.dat] extension. Don't use DOS paths or extensions. The file will be created in the same directory as the program file, appending ".dat" to the name you enter. Please let me know what you think. Use at your own risk, I will not claim any responsibility for damage to your system because of the use of this program. But don�t worry it�s never hurt mine. Rick La Rue RLaRue@aol.com (Home) shawn stanley http://dnd.starflung.com what have you done for me lately ... more to the point what have i done for me - mightyfew, "i can't wait" ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 22:11:25 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: Fan Art (was new Glantri site to discover) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > I'd be happy to do a few character sketches if anyone is interested. Head shots are > fairly quick and easy to do, and I think they could spruce up a web page quite nicely. > Full body shots take a bit more time. This could be useful also for our Thyatis page... Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis Visit: http://www.geocities.com/iuliusscaevola/ A Dark Portal/ the Nightmare Project and http://www.geocities.com/talerio/ The Thyatis Character Reference ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 22:22:35 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: The Dark Lord: II MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marco Fossati wrote: > Draco, Stonewall, early spring 997 AC I really enjoyed this piece of the work...especially the "Fear of the Master Chain"... Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 22:26:26 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Alphatian mages are evil and/or vampires MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's interesting to note that our Alphatian friend hasn't even bothered to defend himself from the accusations of vampirism that I made. Probably he knew that nobody would have believed him anyway. And he's supposed to be an enlightened Alphatian...[laughs] 8-) Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:51:47 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Dave Keyser Organization: Palmchip Subject: Re: Mystara's historical/present NPCs and villains MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ramses Ramirez wrote: > > Finally, I do realize that IMHO a lot of the above can be unfortunately attributed to the lack of novels (which would describe these heroic/villanous NPCs) that Mystara has spawned in comparision to the myriad number of books written for both Forgotten Realms and Dragonlance. It does annoy me that I really wish more novels could have been made for our world. To toss in my own opinion, I am very grateful no more novels were made, and kind of wish that there were less. Most TSR novels suck, and the Mystara novels were no exception. Most of the authors had either superficial or no understanding of the setting, and showed no respect for the setting by exhibiting restraint. By this I mean that if the setting conflicted with the story, the setting got the raw deal. Not to mention most of them were hacks with poor writing skills. Dave Keyser ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 22:42:41 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Daniel Mayer Subject: Re: Shadows lifted, Part Two MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Some Thyatian soldier wrote: > Not aristotelic at all...8-) > By the way, I am writing a mega-essay on Thyatian religions and holy orders, > so > I will include, although a little changed, the Knightly order to which > Aurelius belongs. > I will also re-write Aurelius for the TCR (mainly change some stats, because > our goal > is a mid level campaign, not a high level one, so his powers are way too > much for us). > I hope you won't mind this...in case, just tell me and I'll drop it. I like > to use > another's work as source and inspiration, I like to link ideas together. 8-) Like me, and I�m greatly pleased to see some NPC now. My request some weeks ago didn�t help much. Until now. Yes, I�m glad to see my NPC to be used in campaigns. But I would like to hear/read the role he will have/had. Would be very interesting to read the different uses of the same NPC: Might add some details in his background. Daniel Mayer aka Laren Nightmaster Tower of Dreams ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:44:12 -0600 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Jennifer Guerra Subject: Re: Teachers of the GSoM In-Reply-To: <000701c07f03$02bf6120$3cf361d4@skytte> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On 1/15/01 8:42 AM, scythe@WANADOO.DK wrote: > Just browsing through my Player's Survival Kit, wondering what I should do > with it, I noticed Handout #3: Final Report Card for the Great School of > Magic. Apart from the very interesting list of subjects, there is also a list > of the teachers. Has anybody out there done additional work on these > characters (whose names I mostly have a hard time reading, btw, could someone > assist me). I got Harald Haaskins as Grand Master, of course, then there's > > Rhogere Zelipieti (?), Master of Abjuration > Jasirol Lightfellow, Master of Alteration or Transmuting > Marchesio Philipe, Master of Conjuration & Summoning > ??? (seriously), Master of Divination > Ingnia (?) di Carenveni, Master of Enchantments & Charms > Werghor (?) Laeten, Master of Evocation & Invocation > Veron Chonese, Master of Illusions & Phantasms > Bertil (?) Gam, Master of Necromancy Yes, various members of the GPD have been working to flesh out these masters; you can find the completed one at the GPD website: http://www.geocities.com/principalities_of_glantri/ Jenn -- It's not denial. I'm just very selective about what I accept as reality. - Calvin ("Calvin and Hobbes") ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 00:15:20 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Jacob Skytte Subject: Re: Teachers of the GSoM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Agathokles wrote: > > Has anybody out there done additional work on these characters >=20 > Of course, the GPD :) Of course. I should have known! ;) > Have a look at the Glantrian Personnel Division, Masters of the Great > School section. We've been working on this characters, though not all = of > them are ready. Looks good, I'll have to spend some more time checking them out. I'm = considering a Harry Potter'ish campaign in the GSoM (I know I'm not the = first), so these NPCs could come in quite handy, and save me a lot of = time. Jacob Skytte scythe@wanadoo.dk ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 00:20:00 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Piquer_Otero?= Subject: Unpredictable odds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I`m writing this post to show how the best laid DM's plans (and module designer's for that sake) can be laid down by ultra-lucky and optimistic players... I'm also venting off my frustration :-( I'm taking my party through the Blood Berthren Trilogy (using the tips for running it just pre-WotI, thanks a lot to Marco for the great posts) and, after quite long sessions of lotsa role-playing but, fortunately, not too much combat in the Azcan Empire, the party got to Nightwail and to the climatic encounter with Simm of the Grasping Dark. Everything was ready for the pawn of Thanatos to tie the PCs down to the Azcan skull racks, so that they had to get saved by some smart talk enlisting the late Prince Kano. Simm was hidden behind an spinning Barrier spell and could easily dish out a couple fireballs till it was time for animating the skull wall, and then a cute elf PC decides to try and Dispel the Barrier!!! I almost sneered and made the calculation: a 6th level elf against a 25th level cleric has a 95% chance of failure!! I told her that the energies of Simm seemed ultra-evil and mighty, so that she could re-think and use a better spell... but she insisted and I, for once, rolled in public, and a square 99 came out!!! Barrier down, so it's plan 2: Simm casts a Holy Word to the menacing warriors who advance, blades drawn. Good, or almost, the PC thief is a "carefree Chaotic" and so gets a ST which he makes and the halfing has a nifty Ring of Spell Turning good for 7 levels of spells per day, just enough to fend off the Holy Word!! So the climatic fight degenerated into a "chase the monkey" game; Simm managed to bring down the thief with Cause Wounds spells, but the halfing dished in a lot of damage and easily avoided things like Poison, Hold Person and Finger of Death (a 7th lvl halfing with a ring of protection +2 only has to avoid getting a silly 1 or 2 on the die roll, almost as good as an Immortal!). So Simm ended up diced by a lonely cute halfling!!! That's standard fiction, but I wonder if it would not be worth to write a story about that climax, giving the actual trend in the list :-) Has your Mystara gaming experience presented similar "PCs manage to do the impossible without the Immortals -or DM- moving the threads" situations??? it's especially funny with published modules, which are supposed to be tough and keep room for all contingencies. Andr�s ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 15:27:25 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: John Calvin Subject: Re: Fan Art MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> > I'd be happy to do a few character sketches if anyone is interested. Head shots are > fairly quick and easy to do, and I think they could spruce up a web page quite nicely. > Full body shots take a bit more time. This could be useful also for our Thyatis page... << Oh...I'd be happy to do a couple of characters [just don't expect too much too quickly - real life and all, you know]. Send me some info and I'll get started. We can talk more off-line if you want. [chimpman.geo@yahoo.com] John ===== Rule #46. If an advisor says to me "My liege, he is but one man. What can one man possibly do?", I will reply "This." and kill the advisor. from "A Guide to Becoming an Evil Overlord" by Peter Anspach __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:45:36 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Dave Keyser Organization: Palmchip Subject: Re: Unpredictable odds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Andr�s Piquer Otero > Simm was hidden behind an spinning Barrier spell and could easily dish out a > couple fireballs till it was time for animating the skull wall, and then a > cute elf PC decides to try and Dispel the Barrier!!! I almost sneered and > made the calculation: a 6th level elf against a 25th level cleric has a 95% > chance of failure!! I told her that the energies of Simm seemed ultra-evil > and mighty, so that she could re-think and use a better spell... but she > insisted and I, for once, rolled in public, and a square 99 came out!!! > Barrier down, so it's plan 2: Simm casts a Holy Word to the menacing > warriors who advance, blades drawn. Good, or almost, the PC thief is a > "carefree Chaotic" and so gets a ST which he makes and the halfing has a > nifty Ring of Spell Turning good for 7 levels of spells per day, just enough > to fend off the Holy Word!! So the climatic fight degenerated into a "chase > the monkey" game; Simm managed to bring down the thief with Cause Wounds > spells, but the halfing dished in a lot of damage and easily avoided things > like Poison, Hold Person and Finger of Death (a 7th lvl halfing with a ring > of protection +2 only has to avoid getting a silly 1 or 2 on the die roll, > almost as good as an Immortal!). So Simm ended up diced by a lonely cute > halfling!!! In the group I have, when the halfling player saw the halfling saving throws in the Cyclopedia, he joked that he would start showing off by drinking poison at every meal. In my experience, players don't like the type of deus ex machina which Kano's save represents. They probably had more fun the way it turned out. I think you had a better ending. Dave Keyser ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:00:38 -0600 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Ranma al'Thor Subject: Some Masters at the School of Magic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm working on a Great School of Magic project sporadically; here's two little bits from it. Some Notable Instructors at the Great School of Magic: (Some of these characters use a 3e prestige class I created, which is after the instructors in the post) Charles Stuart of Glenmoorloch, Arch-Master of Natural Philosophy (Planar Studies--Parallel Primes) Master's Thesis: "Towards a System for Quantifying Measurements of Aspects of Alternate Prime Planes" Archmaster's Thesis: "If Blackmoor Never Fell: A Study of World DA1-4" Notable Other Works: "Wayne's World", "The Plane Where Everything Is Blue", "The Wood Between the Worlds", "Philosophical Ramifications of Dungeonland" Class: Diviner 9/Professor 10 Charles Stuart is a hundred years old, looks thirty, and acts to be around one thousand years old. He has transcended senility, coming out the other side into a new and exciting realm of causing pure terror in others. He possesses the Wardrobe of Many Worlds, a wardrobe whose interior back wall opens into different planes depending on what kinds of clothing you hang up in it. At least once a semester, he takes his students through it on a field trip, testing out a new configuration of clothing in it. These trips are exciting for those who survive. He is a kind and enthusiastic master, and if he didn't periodically do incredibly foolish things, he would have a lot more living students. David Fume of Tavish, Master of Humanities (Philosophy) Master's Thesis: "The Necessity of Skepticism" Notable Other Works: "Why People Who Don't Think Remain In Existence, Unfortunately" Class: Wizard 9/Professor 4 It's rumored that Master Fume doesn't even believe in his own existence. He is a skeptic, questioning everything, especially the intelligence of his own students. Those who can manage to survive three years with sanity intact will hone their intellect but also tend to become either emotional wrecks or as arrogant as he is. However, he does treat his students fairly with regard to the chores they do. Henri d'Mandeville, Arch-Master of Jurisprudence (Glantrian Law) Master's Thesis: "Variance in Property Rights Between New Averoigne and Krondahar" Arch-Master's Thesis: "The Use of Geasa in New Averoigne as a Substitute for Contract Law" Other Notable Works: "The Light of Rad in Historical Perspective", "A Study of Patterns in Private Bills, 980-989", "How to Pass a Private Bill Without Bribery", "Twelve Useful Spells for Judges", "Roots of Glantrian Law in the Pre-Alexandrian Period" Class: Wizard 12/Professor 4 Fortunately for all concerned, Henri is too busy with his duties as head of the Court of Appeals to take any personal students below the Graduate level. He does teach the Second Year Glantrian Law course, however, and does enough damage that way to the psyches of young students to compensate for his inability to abuse them in person. He despises mundaners, and those who have him for Glantrian Law get a rather biased perspective of arcaner and mundaner rights. He is also incapable of adjusting his lectures down to the level of knowledge previously possessed by listeners. Graduate students, on the other hand, find him to be incredibly knowledgeable about the law codes of all the prinicipalities and Glantri proper, and quite helpful in the preparation of their Masters or Arch-Masters thesis. Adam Schmitt, Master of Business (Trade) Master's Thesis: "The Necessity of Credit Mechanisms for Trade: The Evolution of the Darokinian Letter of Credit" Other Notable Works: "The Prosperity of Kingdoms", "A Plea for a National Road Building Project", "Facilitating Trade Through Magic" Class: Wizard 9/Professor 4 Adam is a friendly and helpful teacher, although he has a mild tendency to neglect his students in favor of his political lobbying and research. He is currently trying to convince the Parliament to levy new taxes to build a trade-facilitating national road network of the quality of the road from Trintan to Glantri City. He hasn't had much luck yet. Adam, unlike many GSOM professors, is quite friendly to mundaners and largely treats them as equals, especially if they're from Darokin, which he admires. Lucrezia Fiola, Master of Arcane Science (Conjuration/Summoning) Master's Thesis: "Commercial Applications of Conjuration and Summoning" Other Notable Works: "Conjure Your Way to Wealth" Class: Conjurer 10/Professor 4 Lucrezia has clawed her way out of the gutter in Caurenze, and is determined to stay out. She approaches magic as a way to get money, and makes sure to inform her students how to best maximize their income. She is currently teaching while she works towards her Arch-Master's Thesis. She can often be seen arguing economic matters with Adam Schmitt. ******************** Prestige Class: Great School of Magic Professor HD: d4 Entry Requirements: Ability to cast fifth level Arcane Spells, Gentleman's Degree or equivalent, Spellcraft 10, Knowledge (Arcana) 10, one other Knowledge at 10 (your specialty) Class Skills: (6 skill points per level+ Int modifier) Alchemy, Bluff, Concentration, Decipher Script [frequently used for student handwriting], Diplomacy, Gather Information, Heal, Knowledge [Each knowledge is a seperate skill], Profession, Scry, Search [Used in Libraries most often], Sense Motive, Speak Language, Spellcraft Class Features: Weapon and Armor Proficiencies: As Wizards. Spells per Day: Professors continue to advance in their ability to cast spells; add their professor level to their level in their highest level class that casts Arcane Spells to determine their number of spells per day (A 6th level Professor/10th level Wizard/2nd level Fighter would memorize spells as a 16th level wizard). Class Level: Base Attack Bonus Fortitude Reflex Will 1 +0 +1 +0 +1 2 +1 +1 +0 +2 3 +1 +1 +0 +2 4 +2 +2 +1 +3 5 +2 +2 +1 +3 6 +3 +2 +1 +4 7 +3 +3 +2 +4 8 +4 +3 +2 +5 9 +4 +3 +2 +5 10 +5 +4 +3 +6 University Lore: Simply by teaching at the Great School, you absorb information about it, allowing you to use Knowledge (Great School of Magic) unskilled. This skill reflects knowledge of school procedures, school regulations, and famous students and teachers and school traditions. Languages: Professors must deal with many foreign students and tomes in strange languages and thus gain one new language every three levels (3, 6, 9). Students: Professors do teach, after all, at least in theory, and therefore have students. Professors get the Leadership feat for free at first level. Academic Feats: Professors get one bonus Academic Feat every three levels of Professor. John Walter Biles : MA-History, ABD, Ph.D Candidate at U. Kansas ranma@falcon.cc.ukans.edu http://www.dkcomm.net/rhea/falcon.html rhea@maison-otaku.net http://maison-otaku.net/~rhea/ "That all princes shall kiss the foot of the Pope alone."--Dictatus Papae, 11th century ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 21:43:08 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: SteelAngel Subject: Re: Some Masters at the School of Magic In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Ranma al'Thor wrote: > Notable Other Works: "Wayne's World", "The Plane Where Everything Is > Blue", "The Wood Between the Worlds", "Philosophical Ramifications of > Dungeonland" You forgot the Arch-Master's more recent works: "Land of Eternal Thaumont" and "Burrowing Through Mashed Potatoes: Adventures in the Sixth Outer Plane to the Left" Ethan ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 18:54:11 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Ramses Ramirez Subject: Re: Mystara's historical/present NPCs and villains] Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 > >>To toss in my own opinion, I am very grateful no more novels were made, and kind of >>wish that there were less. Most TSR novels suck, and the Mystara novels were no exception. >>Most of the authors had either superficial or no understanding of the setting, and showed >>no respect for the setting by exhibiting restraint. By this I mean that if the setting conflicted >>with the story, the setting got the raw deal. Not to mention most of them were hacks >>with poor writing skills. >> >>Dave Keyser >> > >- True most novels do seem to be on the iffy side and the "Penhaligon Trilogy" is notorious for being so, but have you ever read the "Dragonlord Chronicles Trilogy" by Thorarinn Gunnarsson? I dunno others opinions, but I find it surprisingly good so far. I have only read the first book but IMHO it is shaping up to be quite the stellar series. >Lancer >>******************************************************************** >>The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp >>The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ >>To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM >>with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------------------------------------ Get Your Free Mail Address at http://www.StarWarsEmail.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 22:56:39 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Geoff Gander Subject: Re: Shadows lifted, Part Two > >Shadows Lifted, Part II > An excellent read! :-) Geoff -- Geoff Gander, BA 97 Cartographer/Game Designer/Government Peon Carnifex Loremaster au998@freenet.carleton.ca : www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Realm/2091 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 21:41:07 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Ramses Ramirez Subject: Music for roleplaying games? Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 In my quest for finding background fantasy music for Mystara tabletop sessions, I have not been able to find anything up to this point. Are there any instrumental CDs/soundtracks of the fantasy genre that have been made specifically for tabletop sessions? Up until now the closest thing I have come to obtaining fantasy music is downloading MP3s from the Baldur's Gate computer game series. I am of the opinion that background music at the right points of the session can enhance the drama of the moment and if such CDs (or tapes) exist, I would like to know how I can find them. Thank you. Lancer ------------------------------------------------------------ Get Your Free Mail Address at http://www.StarWarsEmail.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:34:36 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: thibault sarlat Subject: new maps!!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi everyone I recently was oriented toward a nice program called Dungeon crafter which allows us to draw dungeons really TSR like looking. to be more familiar with it i took upon myself to redrew a nice dungeon (B7) in which i had a lot of fun both as a player and as a DM the first two maps are now available on my site. As for the rest, you can check what i have done so far regarding Minaea, Borea, and Heldann Thibault Sarlat. ICQ 16622177. homepage http://www.mystara.com.bi Join me at: thibsylv@club-internet.fr or at clenarius@hotmail.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 07:44:45 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: thibault sarlat Subject: Re: new maps!!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit well i'll make minaea and borea available tonight Thibault Sarlat. ICQ 16622177. homepage http://www.mystara.com.bi Join me at: thibsylv@club-internet.fr or at clenarius@hotmail.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 08:02:37 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: Fan Art MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > Oh...I'd be happy to do a couple of characters [just don't expect too much too quickly - > real life and all, you know]. Send me some info and I'll get started. We can talk more > off-line if you want. Well, if you take a look at our page and you feel inspired, and if you have the time and decide to waste it drawing for the Thyatis Character Reference, well then let me know 8-) http://www.geocities.com/talerio/ Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 08:14:28 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: Music for roleplaying games? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ramses Ramirez wrote: > In my quest for finding background fantasy music for Mystara tabletop sessions, I have not been able to find anything up to this point. Are there any instrumental CDs/soundtracks of the fantasy genre that have been made specifically for tabletop sessions? I don't think there are specific instrumentals, however there are a lot of bands which play dramatic music that could be suited to fantasy role-playing...but I don't think that it's what you are searching for...maybe you could search for the Ladyhawke movie soundtrack. It was written by Andrew Powell and performed by the Alan Parsons Project, and is extremely good, instrumental epic pop-rock which uses a lot of orchestrations and have really an epic fantasy sound (you should check the movie too, if you didn't see it! With Rutger Hauer and Michelle Pfeiffer). It is easily found on Napster, if you want to check a song or two, I suggest "Main Title" and "Tavern Fight (Navarre)". Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 08:20:25 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: Shadows lifted, Part Two MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Like me, and I�m greatly pleased to see some NPC now. My request some > weeks ago didn�t help much. Until now. ? > Yes, I�m glad to see my NPC to be used in campaigns. But I would like to > hear/read the role he will have/had. Surely you will be informed before I upload him to the site. I won't do anything without your approval. Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 08:30:15 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: Some Masters at the School of Magic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ranma al'Thor wrote: > I'm working on a Great School of Magic project sporadically; here's two > little bits from it. > > Some Notable Instructors at the Great School of Magic: > (Some of these characters use a 3e prestige class I created, which is > after the instructors in the post) An interesting read, with a sense of humour that I appreciated much! Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:31:39 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Sverre Midthjell Subject: Re: Alphatian mages are evil and/or vampires MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > It's interesting to note that our Alphatian friend hasn't even > bothered to defend > himself from the accusations of vampirism that I made. Probably > he knew that > nobody would have believed him anyway. > And he's supposed to be an enlightened Alphatian...[laughs] > 8-) My dear captain: Of course he won't defend himself from that. He should be honored that you thought him to be a vampire. I think I would have recognized him if he was, though. I'd be more than happy to do you the honours though, if you'd like that.... [grins baring pointed canines, and steps away from the sunlit window] -Count Mzilikazi ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:34:17 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Ettore Ottaviano MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit � ETTORE OTTAVIANO (General ) Born 11 August 974, Julinius, Duchy of Thyatis, Thyatis. Ettore Ottaviano, General of the XXth Cohort. -------------------------------------------------------------------- History: Ettore Ottaviano is a Kerendan member of the lesser aristocracy. However, he has never cared of his ancestry and has devoted himself to become the best at the two arts that are most valued in Thyatis: fighting and politics (someone outside Thyatis would say treachery). Ottaviano entered first the Tarastia�s Justiciars at 14, but at 18 he entered the Diplomatic School of the Army. At 25, he became the youngest ambassador of Thyatis, sent to the Kingdom of Ierendi (999). However, Ottaviano soon learned to dislike the peaceful islands, where his political skills where completely useless. Ottaviano tried first to gain informations regarding Honnor Island, but Gherynid, Plenipotentiary of the Island, constantly interferred with his efforts- both legal and not. Ottaviano resigned from his position in 1006, when he returned to Thyatis to re-enter the Army during the Wrath War. He was given the rank of Lieutenant in the XXth Cohort, located in Port Lucinius, and had to deal with the General, an inept and incompetent aristocrat, soon killed by a small group of his own soldiers, enraged by a bad loss suffered on the Isle of Dawn. Ottaviano, being the second-in-command, took the command and sentenced the guilty to death, then led the Cohort in several battles, until the Cohort suffered nearly total annihilation after the long siege of Redstone. However he was able to flee the conquered city and return to Port Lucinius, where he worked toward the re-forming of the XXth Cohort. After the Wrath of the Immortals War, Ettore Ottaviano�s position as General was confirmed, and he is the most important general of north-eastern Thyatis. Personality: Ottaviano is an excellent politician and officer, but he is also very ambitious, and overly scruplous in his duties. He is hard and uncompromising when he works, and extremely hard upon his underlings. His success in the army could seem strange, but it isn't if we consider the fact that he is also just, and has never committed abuses- last but not least, he is competent, and this meant much through the years of the War. Appearance: Ottaviano is a handsome man in his early forties. He is of middle height (1m 72) and weight (66 kg), but is very powerful and well muscled. He has gray-black hair, and blue eyes. He has a black beard, and is very similar in face to Anthony Hopkins in "Elephant Man" 8-). Stats: Human Cleric 17 [OD&D 26] Str 13, Int 15, Wis 17, Dx 12, Cos 16, Cha 14 Notes: Ettore Ottaviano appeared for the first time in GAZ4: Kingdom of Ierendi. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 12:06:33 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: Alphatian mages are evil and/or vampires [IC] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Mzilikazi rambled: > He should be honored that you thought him to be a vampire. I think I would > have recognized him if he was, though. I'd be more than happy to do you the > honours though, if you'd like that.... I shudder at the thought that nations of the Known World accept the existance of abhorrent creatures like you. Alphatia delenda est! 8-) Iulius Sergius Scaevola Human Fighter Captain of the 3rd Banner of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:07:51 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Jacob Skytte Subject: Re: Unpredictable odds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andr=E9s Piquer Otero wrote: > So Simm ended up diced by a lonely cute halfling!!! Happens all the time. Halflings are notorious at surviving even the = worst odds, and at making incredible dice rolls and just generally = having all the luck. Ask the Halfling Thief Bryan Nimblefingers, who = went from charisma 5 to 18 after a brush with a Deck of Many Things, and = who also juggled an insane number of apples to catch the attention of a = rampaging Efreeti, making a proficiency check with a -18 penalty. ;) Ask = Tasslehoff Burrfoot (don't tell me a Kender isn't a Halfling!), who = backstabbed Khisanth the Black Dragon, rolled a natural 20 for a = critical strike, and dealt out max. damage, killing it in one blow, = ending the climactic battle before it even began. Ask Elmore Mole the = Halfling who singlehandedly slew four Medusas that were supposed to = petrify the party and abduct them, easily making ST after ST... I guess = the list goes on... And yes, I did play these characters through the = actual situations described. Jacob Skytte scythe@wanadoo.dk ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 14:18:37 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard?= Subject: Re: Fan Art (was new Glantri site to discover) In-Reply-To: <20010115195528.4871.qmail@web1405.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Chris Furneaux wrote: > I could help there I guess. been working on some > computer generated scenery and stuff which if your > interested there some at my website. > http://www.geocities.com/c_furneaux/render.html > I get to play with 3d Studio Max next year so who > knows what that'll turn out concidering my fettish > with history and the middle ages. > I be happy to put togeather the website (easy acess to > dreamweaver) without too much trouble, if people think > it'd be useful. I had a look at your images, and I like em! Personally, Id like to see anything that can help visualize our setting. Think you could create an image of Chateau de Ambreville? H�vard Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc "God created man in his image, and then man returned the favour." -Voltaire ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 14:22:25 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard?= Subject: Re: new maps!!!! In-Reply-To: <000001c07f84$e18b7e80$678524c3@duke> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, thibault sarlat wrote: > hi everyone > I recently was oriented toward a nice program called Dungeon crafter which > allows us to draw dungeons really TSR like looking. > to be more familiar with it i took upon myself to redrew a nice dungeon (B7) > in which i had a lot of fun both as a player and as a DM > the first two maps are now available on my site. Those look pretty good. This tool could be very useful for illustrating the interior of famous buildings such as the Merchant Guild of Darokin, the Great School of Magecraft and the Thyatian Senate.. H�vard Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc "God created man in his image, and then man returned the favour." -Voltaire ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 14:55:25 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: The Stalker Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Subject: Re: Alphatian mages are evil and/or vampires Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 22:26:26 Caroletti wrote: >It's interesting to note that our Alphatian friend hasn't even bothered to defend >himself from the accusations of vampirism that I made. Okay, you've talked me into it - I hereby do deny them! > Probably he knew that >nobody would have believed him anyway. Quite. Why would they begin to do so now ? >And he's supposed to be an enlightened Alphatian...[laughs] >8-) > I am. It's the rest of You who have a problem ;) - The Stalker Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 07:08:25 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: John Calvin Subject: Re: new maps!!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> I recently was oriented toward a nice program called Dungeon crafter which allows us to draw dungeons really TSR like looking. to be more familiar with it i took upon myself to redrew a nice dungeon (B7) in which i had a lot of fun both as a player and as a DM the first two maps are now available on my site. << Hey Thibault, Orient us toward that program, if you would please. It looks great! John ===== Rule #46. If an advisor says to me "My liege, he is but one man. What can one man possibly do?", I will reply "This." and kill the advisor. from "A Guide to Becoming an Evil Overlord" by Peter Anspach __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 12:25:37 -0600 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Ranma al'Thor Subject: Re: Unpredictable odds In-Reply-To: <003501c07fb5$0d38ac80$4ae861d4@skytte> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Jacob Skytte wrote: > Andr=E9s Piquer Otero wrote: >=20 > > > So Simm ended up diced by a lonely cute halfling!!! >=20 > Happens all the time. Halflings are notorious at surviving even the >worst odds, and at making incredible dice rolls and just generally having >all the luck.=20 Yep. In one campaign, my halfling thief actually won a footrace with nine liches down a mountainside while carrying their soul objects in his backpack. Everyone else in the party was already dead, thanks to said liches. John Walter Biles : MA-History, ABD, Ph.D Candidate at U. Kansas = =20 ranma@falcon.cc.ukans.edu http://www.dkcomm.net/rhea/falcon.html rhea@maison-otaku.net http://maison-otaku.net/~rhea/ "That all princes shall kiss the foot of the Pope alone."--Dictatus Papae, 11th century ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:26:29 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: thibault sarlat Subject: Re: new maps!!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit yes indeed the person who gave me the url for this prog also told me he was ready to work with me on the mapping of some famous mystara urban areas such as glantri city spot or thyatian ones. Of course , everyone is welcome to join the project. the URL is http://www.dungeoncrafter.com/ Thibault Sarlat. ICQ 16622177. homepage http://www.mystara.com.bi Join me at: thibsylv@club-internet.fr or at clenarius@hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: H�vard To: Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] new maps!!!! > On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, thibault sarlat wrote: > > > hi everyone > > I recently was oriented toward a nice program called Dungeon crafter which > > allows us to draw dungeons really TSR like looking. > > to be more familiar with it i took upon myself to redrew a nice dungeon (B7) > > in which i had a lot of fun both as a player and as a DM > > the first two maps are now available on my site. > > Those look pretty good. > This tool could be very useful for illustrating the interior of famous > buildings such as the Merchant Guild of Darokin, the Great School of > Magecraft and the Thyatian Senate.. > > H�vard > > Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) > http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc > > "God created man in his image, and then man returned the > favour." -Voltaire > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:31:05 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: thibault sarlat Subject: Re: new maps!!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Borea is available at to download the ping version (otherwise it's 1meg big) paste this into your browser: http://www.mystara.com.bi/boreadraft.png and save the file Thibault Sarlat. ICQ 16622177. homepage http://www.mystara.com.bi Join me at: thibsylv@club-internet.fr or at clenarius@hotmail.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:37:38 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: thibault sarlat Subject: skothar in 24 miles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit as for the skothar project in 24 miles here is what i ve done so far (1.45 meg in ping format) http://perso.club-internet.fr/thibsylv/sko24mdraft.png Thibault Sarlat. ICQ 16622177. homepage http://www.mystara.com.bi Join me at: thibsylv@club-internet.fr or at clenarius@hotmail.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:37:38 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Brad Fonseca Subject: Hello! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everybody! My name is Brad and I've just joined the MML. I live in Toronto, Canada. I started playing D&D with the Mystara campaign world 15 years ago. I lost touch with role-playing altogether for 10 years and just started again with the 3E rules. I had no idea that there were so many web sites devoted to Mystara and I'm happy that there is a large community to share ideas and campaigns with. I'm also on the MMB newsgroup and I gather there is a bit of crossover but I'm keen for all the new and old developments in Mystara. Are many people still playing with the original rules (i.e.. the Basic, Expert, Companion and Master Sets) or are people converting to the new 3E rules? Does anyone have any information on WotC downloads for Mystara, free or otherwise? Any good sites to get Mystara 3E conversions? Hope to hear from everyone! Brad:) -- "It is a pain in the ass waiting around for someone to try to kill you." ---Merlin, son of Corwin, as quoted in Trumps Of Doom ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:48:09 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: thibault sarlat Subject: Re: Fan Art (was new Glantri site to discover) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit yes your 3d rendering was great how long did it take you to make one castel? i reaaly like the trees too i would really like to have the original files , before any rendering. it would be kind of you to send them to me if possible , thanks Thibault Sarlat. ICQ 16622177. homepage http://www.mystara.com.bi Join me at: thibsylv@club-internet.fr or at clenarius@hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: H�vard To: Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Fan Art (was new Glantri site to discover) > On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Chris Furneaux wrote: > > > I could help there I guess. been working on some > > computer generated scenery and stuff which if your > > interested there some at my website. > > http://www.geocities.com/c_furneaux/render.html > > I get to play with 3d Studio Max next year so who > > knows what that'll turn out concidering my fettish > > with history and the middle ages. > > I be happy to put togeather the website (easy acess to > > dreamweaver) without too much trouble, if people think > > it'd be useful. > > I had a look at your images, and I like em! > Personally, Id like to see anything that can help visualize our setting. > Think you could create an image of Chateau de Ambreville? > > H�vard > > Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) > http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc > > "God created man in his image, and then man returned the > favour." -Voltaire > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:52:33 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: thibault sarlat Subject: Re: Music for roleplaying games? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i'll suggest metal groups such as Manowar, helloween, Rhapsody, Luca Turilli, Blind Guardian, Running Wild with them you can go adventuring , you'll be sure to find melody to along the adventure Thibault Sarlat. ICQ 16622177. homepage http://www.mystara.com.bi Join me at: thibsylv@club-internet.fr or at clenarius@hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Caroletti To: Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 8:14 AM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Music for roleplaying games? > Ramses Ramirez wrote: > > > In my quest for finding background fantasy music for Mystara tabletop sessions, I have not been able to find anything up to this point. Are there any instrumental CDs/soundtracks of the fantasy genre that have been made specifically for tabletop sessions? > > I don't think there are specific instrumentals, however there are a lot of bands > which play dramatic music that could be suited to fantasy role-playing...but I > don't think that it's what you are searching for...maybe you could search for the > Ladyhawke movie soundtrack. It was written by Andrew Powell and performed > by the Alan Parsons Project, and is extremely good, instrumental epic pop-rock > which uses a lot of orchestrations and have really an epic fantasy sound (you should > check the movie too, if you didn't see it! With Rutger Hauer and Michelle Pfeiffer). > It is easily found on Napster, if you want to check a song or two, I suggest > "Main Title" and "Tavern Fight (Navarre)". > > Iulius Sergius Scaevola > Captain of the XXth Cohort > Port Lucinius, Thyatis > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:12:28 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Piquer_Otero?= Subject: Re: Hello! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi! newcomers wave this week :-)!!! well, for me, I still keep to the D&D rules, those old rules are simple and fast, and let players (and poor DM) concentrate in role-playing... and also some rules are rooted in the Mystaran structure deeply, like all elves in the Outer World having a magical nature with spellcasting abilities or the level advancement pattern. I does not mean that I don't like 3E. I purchased the three core books in the US and I really find the system good, balanced and with lotsa opportunities, but, to say the truth, I'll use 3E as the basis for an original campaign world of my own creation: the multitude of options lets DMs create a world as detailed and personal as they want, whereas Mystara was conceived with OD&D in mind, so I'm not up to make a conversion (maybe there's a bit of nostalghia here...) My main concern about 3E is fast advancement of levels: wow, with published adventures (like those in Dungeon), you can get an advancement rate at lower levels of 1 adventure = 1 level... that happened in OD&D with levels 1-3 and then the rate became progressively slower; this encouraged long campaigns, commitment of PCs to the world around them, with dominions and politics, the essence of Mystara!! 3E designers state that they want to bring the adventure "back to the dungeon", and if there's something to give credit to Mystara for is its expanding the adventure from the dungeon to the world, so, for the M-gameplay I like 3E is a bit lacking... anyway, that's just my opinion, many people are doing a great deal of good conversions of mystara into 3e, so welcome abroad! Andr�s ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:44:41 +0200 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Solmyr Subject: Re: Alphatian mages are evil and/or vampires [IC] Comments: cc: Porphyrogenitus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Caroletti wrote: > > I shudder at the thought that nations of the Known World accept the existance > of abhorrent creatures like you. > Alphatia delenda est! > 8-) > Indeed. Zose Alphatians are nosing but evil monsters. Here in Glantri wizards are much more human (or elf, as ze case may be), we have no vampires, werewolves, liches, or anysing horrible like zat. And anyone who spreads rumors to ze contrary is a filsy liar who should spend some time in ze Tower of Sighs. Louis de Sauvier, Senior Instructor at the Great School of Magic -- ****************** Aleksei Andrievski aka Solmyr, Archmage of the Azure Star solmyr@kolumbus.fi http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Fortress/2198/index.html ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:34:02 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Jacob Skytte Subject: Re: Hello! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brad Fonseca wrote: > Hi everybody! Hi! And welcome to the MML! > Are many people still playing with the original rules (i.e.. the = Basic, > Expert, Companion and Master Sets) or are people converting to the new > 3E rules? There are many people on the list who play with OD&D rules (I'm among = them). Nothing like needing only one book for rules (the Rules = Cyclopedia, or RC, containing all the rules from the old boxes). But = there are also plenty of people who play using AD&D 2nd. Ed. rules, and = there was much 3rd Ed. rumbling this fall. I'm sure there are list = members who will happily direct you to 3rd Ed. sites (and have already = done so, before I finish writing this mail, I guess ;))! On this list = you'll find a smattering of stuff utilizing all the rules, but there's = mostly campaign-stuff, that you can convert to whatever rules-system you = prefer, if it isn't written for your personal choice of rules. So, once again, welcome! and I hope you'll stay and have a good time. ;) Jacob Skytte scythe@wanadoo.dk ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 12:00:18 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Chris Furneaux Subject: Re: Fan Art MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- thibault sarlat wrote: > yes your 3d rendering was great > how long did it take you to make one castel? > i reaaly like the trees too > i would really like to have the original files , > before any rendering. > it would be kind of you to send them to me if > possible , thanks like that, not long. The castle is built in Autocad2000 and the landscape in archicad (by drawing countour lines) The castle is just a bunch of rectangular boxes subtracted from each other and copied, then all unioned. not a lot of detail. The trees were pre-built for radiance by others and you just insert them. Radiance is free for linix/unix systems, but the nice interface that I use in Win NT costs and is still only in beta testing anyway. I could put them up at my website if there is anyone else interested. > > I had a look at your images, and I like em! > > Personally, Id like to see anything that can help > visualize our setting. > > Think you could create an image of Chateau de > Ambreville? If you could give me a breif description I could see what I could do. I'm open to ideas and insparation (any others?). I'm an architecture student so filling in the gaps shouldn't be too hard. Chris. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 12:04:05 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Wizards Shopper Subject: Re: Music for roleplaying games? In-Reply-To: <004301c07fed$7d832fa0$677f9ec2@duke> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Well, I do try to use music for atmosphere, but it's contextual. I bought some sound effects CDs, which I use occasionally to set the tone for a scene, but there's *always* music at an inn, for example. For tavern music, I suggest the Irish Descendents. "Gypsies and Lovers" was a good album from them. For celtic harp, you can try Kim Roberston's music, like her album "Wind Shadows." I've used bargain CDs with flamenco and gypsy music for "trditional" Traladaran themes. For combat music, though, few things beat the Conan soundtrack. =;) Bardically yours, The Auld Skald Quoting thibault sarlat : > i'll suggest metal groups such as Manowar, helloween, Rhapsody, Luca > Turilli, Blind Guardian, Running Wild > with them you can go adventuring , you'll be sure to find melody to > along > the adventure > > > Thibault Sarlat. > ICQ 16622177. > homepage http://www.mystara.com.bi > Join me at: thibsylv@club-internet.fr > or at > clenarius@hotmail.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Caroletti > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 8:14 AM > Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Music for roleplaying games? > > > > Ramses Ramirez wrote: > > > > > In my quest for finding background fantasy music for Mystara > tabletop > sessions, I have not been able to find anything up to this point. Are > there > any instrumental CDs/soundtracks of the fantasy genre that have been > made > specifically for tabletop sessions? > > > > I don't think there are specific instrumentals, however there are a > lot of > bands > > which play dramatic music that could be suited to fantasy > role-playing...but I > > don't think that it's what you are searching for...maybe you could > search > for the > > Ladyhawke movie soundtrack. It was written by Andrew Powell and > performed > > by the Alan Parsons Project, and is extremely good, instrumental epic > pop-rock > > which uses a lot of orchestrations and have really an epic fantasy > sound > (you should > > check the movie too, if you didn't see it! With Rutger Hauer and > Michelle > Pfeiffer). > > It is easily found on Napster, if you want to check a song or two, I > suggest > > "Main Title" and "Tavern Fight (Navarre)". > > > > Iulius Sergius Scaevola > > Captain of the XXth Cohort > > Port Lucinius, Thyatis > > > > ******************************************************************** > > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > > > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 12:23:37 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Chris Furneaux Subject: Re: Unpredictable odds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'll have to remember this speech to give to a halfling wanting to convince people that he's worth taking along. I can just picture it... "but your just a halfling, we have no need of you." "but halflings have all the luck......"etc. chris. > Happens all the time. Halflings are notorious at > surviving even the worst odds, and at making > incredible dice rolls and just generally having all > the luck. Ask the Halfling Thief Bryan > Nimblefingers, who went from charisma 5 to 18 after > a brush with a Deck of Many Things, and who also > juggled an insane number of apples to catch the > attention of a rampaging Efreeti, making a > proficiency check with a -18 penalty. ;) Ask > Tasslehoff Burrfoot (don't tell me a Kender isn't a > Halfling!), who backstabbed Khisanth the Black > Dragon, rolled a natural 20 for a critical strike, > and dealt out max. damage, killing it in one blow, > ending the climactic battle before it even began. > Ask Elmore Mole the Halfling who singlehandedly slew > four Medusas that were supposed to petrify the party > and abduct them, easily making ST after ST... I > guess the list goes on... And yes, I did play these > characters through the actual situations described. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:29:39 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Piquer_Otero?= Subject: Re: Music for roleplaying games? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit One of the best CDs I found for RPG athmosphere is "Dances from Hungary and Transylvania", Clemencic Consort, Harmonia Mundi. It's quite old, and now it's at good bargain price, if you can find it... everything to build up tension scenes, some fanfares for court scenes and the unavoidable peasant dances. also, check Carl Orff... Carmina Burana is a must after its use in the movie Excalibur for the climatic scenes, but he also has one Nativity Play music and Easter Play music, and it's perfect for sound effects of storms and spellcasting: he used a mix of traditional orchestra and singers with electronic instruments to reproduce a snow tempest and a trio of witches casting a spell � la Macbeth... good for Klantyre nights. Andr�s ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:38:06 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Martin Mathes Hi anyone, vampire or not, as long as i have some oaken wood at hand. I'm back on this list (after several moths). My name is martin mathes and i have cretaed some mystara related files. Have a look at my site www-stud.uni-essen.de/~sl1506/master Sorry for the soemwhat odd adress, I get it free with my studies.:) Especcialy i'm eager to have some opionions on my tel akbir files. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:14:46 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Agathokles Subject: Re: Hello! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brad Fonseca wrote: > > Are many people still playing with the original rules (i.e.. the Basic, > Expert, Companion and Master Sets) or are people converting to the new > 3E rules? None of them, I play 2e. > Does anyone have any information on WotC downloads for > Mystara, free or otherwise? The orange-cover Palace of the Silver Princess in available as pdf from the Classics Downloads page at the WotC site, and I think it should be available from the official site as well. The same applies to the Savage Coast Stuff. > Any good sites to get Mystara 3E > conversions? There's a discussion group on Mystara 3e conversion, and a website which presents some conversions. Search Mystara 3e group and the Lighthouse in the links at dnd.starflung.com -- Giampaolo Agosta agathokles@libero.it agosta@fusberta.elet.polimi.it http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles/index.htm ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:33:27 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Daniel Mayer Subject: Re: Hello! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ... by Brad: > Are many people still playing with the original rules (i.e.. the Basic, > Expert, Companion and Master Sets) or are people converting to the new > 3E rules? Does anyone have any information on WotC downloads for > Mystara, free or otherwise? Any good sites to get Mystara 3E > conversions? Yes! I�m still playing OD&D because I only have the 2nd Ed. on PC (Core CD with handbooks) and it�s too much for printing. But I enhanced it with few hundred spells (Netbooks, GAZs, AD&D-Spells) and the traits of the GAZs. And downloads to WotC I�m searching, too :) Can anyone help? The almanac is quite useless without certain boxed sets or special modules, for I don�t know even half the events, I suppose. So I�m waiting for the wizards of the coast to publish all Mystaran products. But anyway: Be welcome on the list! I too have begun playing D&D 15 years ago. Daniel Mayer aka Laren Nightmaster Tower of Dreams ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:08:47 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: erewan laubgaenger Subject: Re: (Martin Mathes) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Martin Mathes wrote: > Hi anyone, > > vampire or not, as long as i have some oaken wood at hand. > > I'm back on this list (after several moths). > My name is martin mathes and i have cretaed some mystara related files. > > Have a look at my site > > www-stud.uni-essen.de/~sl1506/master > > Sorry for the soemwhat odd adress, I get it free with my studies.:) > > Especcialy i'm eager to have some opionions on my tel akbir files. hi nice to see you back,Martin i remeber you, because i look some time ago for people from germany. so i found your name and found out that you from Essen. i am from Dortmund. IBON ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:42:19 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: James Gaines Subject: Re: Mystara's historical/present NPCs and villains MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Not that it matters but Technically Elminster is only a 23 level mage. They've never officially stated him like he runs in the books. -----Original Message----- From: Aaron E Nowack [mailto:anowack@JUNO.COM] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 12:45 PM To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Mystara's historical/present NPCs and villains On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 19:20:01 +0200 Solmyr writes: > Agathokles wrote: > > > > An Elminster-type would have reached immortality centuries ago. > The only > > (known) Mystaran characters who fulfill this role are probably the > > wizard Gargantua and Haldemar of Haaken. > > > I personally always thought that Reginald of Crowlerd (from the > Daroking > Gaz) seemed very Elminster-like. He's a very old mage, and lives in > a > small village :) Except for the fact that he's not a 40th level uber-mage/thief/fighter/priestess with demigod powers. I hope. :) Aaron Nowack "Never let reality get in the way of a good hypothesis." http://www.geocities.com/anowack/ ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 01:00:04 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: The Stalker Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Subject: Re: Music for roleplaying games? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 08:14:28 Caroletti wrote: >Ramses Ramirez wrote: > >> In my quest for finding background fantasy music for Mystara tabletop sessions, I have not been able to find anything up to this point. Are there any instrumental CDs/soundtracks of the fantasy genre that have been made specifically for tabletop sessions? > >I don't think there are specific instrumentals, however there are a lot of bands >which play dramatic music that could be suited to fantasy role-playing...but I >don't think that it's what you are searching for...maybe you could search for the >Ladyhawke movie soundtrack. It was written by Andrew Powell and performed >by the Alan Parsons Project, and is extremely good, instrumental epic pop-rock >which uses a lot of orchestrations and have really an epic fantasy sound (you should >check the movie too, if you didn't see it! With Rutger Hauer and Michelle Pfeiffer). >It is easily found on Napster, if you want to check a song or two, I suggest >"Main Title" and "Tavern Fight (Navarre)". > Don't know this track though I do know the film (I actually have it taped somewhere) - maybe I should check it out. IMHO most film music works quite well for background music, but I particularly like the track from Francis Ford Coppola's Dracula movie by Wojciech Kilar - it's excellent and can work in the background without interfering in your gaming sessions too much. A good deal of film music from both Star Wars (by John Williams) and Star Trek (frequently by Jerry Goldsmith) movies is also quite useful. In fact, I'm pretty sure the music from Gladiator must also be excellent - I don't have the track, but I have the movie on DVD and it's simply excellent! Among more common music, I like to use put on cds by Enigma and the like... And, yes I admit it, the music on the Red Steel cds! Well, I like it, so sue me... (Hey - stop throwing that at me, Captain Scaevola - you know I have my Protection from Normal Missiles up already, so don't waste your energy :) ) - The Stalker Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 01:17:52 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: The Stalker Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Subject: Re: Unpredictable odds Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:07:51 Jacob Skytte wrote: >Andris Piquer Otero wrote: > > >> So Simm ended up diced by a lonely cute halfling!!! > >Happens all the time. Halflings are notorious at surviving even the worst odds, and at making incredible dice rolls and just generally having all the luck. Ask the Halfling Thief Bryan Nimblefingers, who went from charisma 5 to 18 after a brush with a Deck of Many Things, and who also juggled an insane number of apples to catch the attention of a rampaging Efreeti, making a proficiency check with a -18 penalty. ;) Ask Tasslehoff Burrfoot (don't tell me a Kender isn't a Halfling!), who backstabbed Khisanth the Black Dragon, rolled a natural 20 for a critical strike, and dealt out max. damage, killing it in one blow, ending the climactic battle before it even began. Ask Elmore Mole the Halfling who singlehandedly slew four Medusas that were supposed to petrify the party and abduct them, easily making ST after ST... I guess the list goes on... And yes, I did play these characters through the actual situations described. > Hmm, I think you're right. I distinctly remember a similar situation myself. Our group consisted of a halfling thief, a human warrior, and a human mage (my PC, and yes - it was the Stalker!) We were moving through some mountain when we faced a red dragon - and not a small one! A fairly large one in 2nd Edition rules (i.e., tough!). Now our fighter rushed the dragon and took some damage from its breath (which he survived by making good saves). As he moved close and entered melee with it, the Stalker cast his best Magic Missiles, Lightning Bolts, and Cones of Cold from behind (hey, he was only 9th level at the time!). The combination worked fairly well because although the warrior was taking damage, we were dealing it out ourselves at a pretty serious rate. This went on for five or more rounds of combat. Meanwhile our halfling thief had done very little. He didn't want to face a dragon, so he hid in the shadows when the battle began... Having done so for several rounds, he decided that since the dragon didn't pay him any attention, he might as well try to sneak up on it, which he did. By the time he reached the dragon, it had already taken heavy damage from the succesful combination of my mage and my friend's warrior, so he decided to try to backstab it! Under 2e rules, that's impossible, but our DM decided that it was alright because he knew the player would have to roll a natural 20 to even hit! Before I continue, I should point out a few things. First, the dragon had begun the battle with well over 100 hp IIRC. Second, the halfling had poor Strength, and he certainly had no bonuses to damage, let alone hit rolls, so if he did make a backstab, the 1d6 roll for damage would be multiplied by four (that was what it was at his level) with no modifiers! So the player rolled the dice... and of course he got his natural 20! Our DM ruled that he would now roll 1d6 for damage and multiply that by four, which the player did... and rolled a 1. The dragon took the incredible sum of 4 points of damage... and died! Rarely have we been so disappointed - the warrior and my mage did all the work, and the little scamp had the nerve to steal our thunder? The warrior and my mage might not have seen eye to eye often, but we did in this case and the little critter was lucky we didn't kill him ourselves! Hmmm... Now, years later, I wonder... There must have been magical powers involved! Perhaps the Glantrian do have the right idea about what to do with those little couch potatoes? What am I saying? Of course they don't. But I do wonder... And it would be an interesting thing to study! :) - The Stalker (never so embarrased again!) Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 01:32:34 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: eikab Subject: NPC Please MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Guys. In my campaing a PC was enslaved (poor him) in Oekmar. Yes! and do not = ask me how, when someone is foolish achieves only these things! Well, ultimately I am in crisis abuot the NCPs: ever the same people = with the same personalities. So, for making more real my Mystara I think = that I need help from the people of the MML. Is someone of you have done sone NPC humanoids, can he/she send it to = me? Thanks. Eikab I think that I come back lately with another ask for NPCs (if the fool = survive)=20 =20 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 01:17:12 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Brad Fonseca Subject: Re: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can you give me your web site address again? I can't get it to work; I get "Unknown Host" when I paste into my browser. Brad:) -- "It is a pain in the ass waiting around for someone to try to kill you." ---Merlin, son of Corwin, as quoted in Trumps Of Doom Martin Mathes wrote: > Have a look at my site > > www-stud.uni-essen.de/~sl1506/master > > Sorry for the soemwhat odd adress, I get it free with my studies.:) > > Especcialy i'm eager to have some opionions on my tel akbir files. > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 07:43:04 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: Unpredictable odds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hmmm... Now, years later, I wonder... There must have been magical powers involved! Perhaps the Glantrian do have the right idea about what to do with those little couch potatoes? What am I saying? Of course they don't. But I do wonder... And it would be an interesting thing to study! > > :) > > - The Stalker (never so embarrased again!) Halflings are the most stupid race of beings that has been produced by Mystara. The Five Shires would be a good place for a prisoner colony. 8-) Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 07:47:20 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: Mystara's historical/present NPCs and villains MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit James Gaines wrote: > Not that it matters but Technically Elminster is only a 23 level mage. > They've never officially stated him like he runs in the books. Only a 23 level mage? In AD&D. That goes for a 39 level D&D mage. Moreover he is one of the favourites of Mystra and has two dozens of powers, so he is more a level 23 priest/mage... Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 07:51:05 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: NPC Please MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit eikab wrote: > > Is someone of you have done sone NPC humanoids, can he/she send it to me? > Thanks. > > Eikab A lot of NPCs are present at the Official Mystara Page. Guess where? In the NPC section. I don't know if there are interesting humanoids, though. Take a look at dnd.starflung.com Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 02:16:33 EST Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "Larry E. Lamb" Subject: Re: Mystara's historical/present NPCs and villains MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Im sorry to say that he is a dule class NPC. He has been a thief, fighter cleric and mage in his life time. And so you know he is a level 29 mage in AD&D 2end edition. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:20:56 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: David Knott Subject: Re: Five shires and hin clans MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Wilson > > I was re-reading my copy of the shires gazeteer last night and came > accross an oddity. It says in parentheses that a full table of the clans > is given on the back of the shires main map. Well, it ain't on mine. Is > this a misprint specific to a certain number of the gazeteers or were they > all like this? More importantly is that clan information available > anywhere. There is no table listing the clans. However, all 100 clans are listed (in geographical rather than alphabetical order) on pp. 37-54 of the DM's booklet. Each settlement is the clanhold for one or more clans. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:32:18 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: David Knott Subject: Re: Alphatian mages are evil and/or vampires MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Caroletti > It's interesting to note that our Alphatian friend hasn't even bothered to defend > himself from the accusations of vampirism that I made. Probably he knew that > nobody would have believed him anyway. > And he's supposed to be an enlightened Alphatian...[laughs] > 8-) You should know that the charge of vampirism is ridiculous -- haven't you killed several Alphatians with completely mundane weapons? And didn't most of them stay dead and not turn into gas? Of course, you should probably repeat that experiment until you are sure.... ;) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:20:48 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: I hate Elminster MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Larry E. Lamb" wrote: > Im sorry to say that he is a dule class NPC. He has been a thief, fighter > cleric and mage in his life time. And so you know he is a level 29 mage in > AD&D 2end edition. I HATE HIM!!! ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:22:34 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: Alphatian mages are evil and/or vampires MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > You should know that the charge of vampirism is ridiculous -- > haven't you killed several Alphatians with completely mundane > weapons? And didn't most of them stay dead and not turn > into gas? Of course, you should probably repeat that experiment > until you are sure.... ;) Their leaders hide behind their pawns. Our leaders fight in the bloodiest of battles. Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis "We poor few forged at the furnace of battles will rise as the steel of future generations." ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:04:59 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Paul George Dooley Subject: Re: War Machine & Sea Machine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Ah... you are a worthy adversery :-) > Suit armour would also increase electracal protection. > At no point (esspecally in a magical world) should any > part of your body be in direct contact with the steel, > a large ammount of padding and often leather would > seperate the two (I do medieval swordfighting so I pay > attention to these things) which would help conduct > the electricity through the armour but around the > victim(s) protecting them still. > Two points against this: Firstly, wether rightly or wrongly, that's not how it works in the game, check disadvantages even though that section also contains the fallacious twaddle about how maneuverable a knight in full armour is. Secondly the inductance in ones body caused by the lightningbolt flowing through the armour would in effect be like being cooked in a microwave. If you're mounted then think about the poor horse as your spurs arc to ground VIA it's sweaty body. > send schirmishes against mages, that way they can't > hit so many. and meanwhile assalt them in other ways. > Skirmishers have to get through the unit(s) in front of the mages in order to engage them though. You put them close enough to be able to use their magic, but with a nice shield of steel in front of them to both protect them and take proper advantage of their effect upon the enemy > save your horses for more important matters. > More important than cavalry? > sommon a couple of dragons to take out their unit, > should rip through the mages at close range, while > they would not be so much trouble for fighters. > 100 magic missiles nail your dragon DEAD! DEAD! DEAD! > > exactly like hitting the mage unit with flaming > artilery. (low level mages don't have any major > protections and I imagine mage robes are firly > flamable. There's more then one way to skin a mage. > First you have to recognise them as a mage unit BEFORE your combustables are ALL hit by wiping out your artillery with a Fire elemental > Tactics lesson one. > don't ever play their game unless your better at it > then them. Or can cheat of course! ;^) > Tactics lesson two. > exploit their weaknesses. > And your own too! > It is my opinion that magic does not = modern warfare, > guns do. magic = revelutionary warfare (one shot, two > shot, charge) but there still ain't nuthin' like a > buch of peasants with longbows. Modern ground > incursion warfare is dictated by the machine gun and > automatic weapons. Tanks also have no equivilent in > Mystara warfare, except the high level mage and just > how many of them there are is debatable, yet alone how > many get involved, and that brings me back to the > begining, don't piss off a country full of mages > unless you have them beaten already and they just > don't know it yet. > You are missing the one thing about magic though that does bollix up most wars in which it takes place though, it's sheer flexibility. Oh, and a small word of caution, never count anyone beaten until AFTER the fact. Hamlet I, v, 166 Words to live by? Paul ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:39:21 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Martin Mathes Subject: Sorry for the typo the correct adress is: www-stud.uni-essen.de/~sl1506/master.htm (sorry i forgot the tiny extension htm) Martin Mathes ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:37:34 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Jacob Skytte Subject: Re: Unpredictable odds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Caroletti wrote: > Halflings are the most stupid race of beings that has been produced by = Mystara. > The Five Shires would be a good place for a prisoner colony. > 8-) You're just picking on them because you know there's nobody left to = defend them, now that Beau unfortunately has gone beyond. Actually I've = heard that Tortles are even stupider (but at least they taste good in = soup), and so are Rock Men (they eat rocks!). Jacob Skytte scythe@wanadoo.dk ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:47:03 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Martin Mathes Subject: rat immortal?? Some time ago, i read something about a mighty wererat leader somewhere in Mystara. Where can I find any information on it? Is there any immortal/power especially interested in the wererats? Martin ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:10:21 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Paul George Dooley Subject: Re: Unpredictable odds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Halflings are the most stupid race of beings that has been produced by Mystara. > The Five Shires would be a good place for a prisoner colony. > 8-) > Hmmm. Wasn't it the last time you tried that sort of thing in the area the entire "Mighty Thyatian Empire" beat a hasty retreat from two Hin paddling a barrel in your direction? >;^)~ Shareth "Heartstealer" Luxor ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:10:23 +0200 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: harri m�ki Subject: rat immortal?? > Some time ago, i read something about a mighty wererat leader > somewhere in > Mystara. Where can I find any information on it? > Is there any immortal/power especially interested in the wererats? > Immortal wererat Mrikitat was introduced in PC4 Night Howlers. There has been also some wererat-related happenings in the last net almanac. Tee oma virtuaalinen p�rssisalkku ja seuraa osakkeittesi kehityst� GSM puhelimella. http://www.sunpoint.net/SunAds/click.htm?mode=footer&id=48&jump=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sunpoint.net%2F ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:36:31 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: A Trick of the Tail- 1. Dance on a Volcano MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit A TRICK OF THE TAIL by Giulio N. Caroletti 1. DANCE ON A VOLCANO She was a very beautiful girl. Brown eyes, black hair, a real beauty�to find her, clearly a Thyatian woman, in Sundsvall, was more than a surprise. She reminded me of someone I had known when I was younger, when I was just a centurion of the Thyatian legions in the Hinterlands. A twelve years old girl who lived with her uncle, a colonist who had recently settled near Raven Scarp. I remember the sore look in her eyes� �Are you the General?� �No, milady. I am just a centurion.� �Ah�where�s the General?� �There she is, see? Leila ben Nadir�� �A WOMAN ? I hoped to see a beautiful General in his shining armor�I suppose I will concentrate on you, then. After all, the Generals are all old, aren�t they?� Her parents had been killed by Alphatian brigands not far from West Portage. �How many Alphatians have you killed, centurion?� �Not many. To be honest, not a single one.� �Never killed an Alphatian? What kind of soldier are you? How can a Thyatian become centurion if he hasn�t killed an Alphatian?� �We are on rather friendly terms with the Alphatians, nowadays.� I could see the rage grow in her eyes. �Alphatia must fall. One day I will be a General, like Leila, but I will avoid squabbling with these primitives in this stupid useless jungles. I will take my troops and conquer Alphatia.� Knowing what had happened to her, I didn�t laugh. It was a strange feeling to see such a determination in her big eyes, and consuming hate. I felt a chill run through my spine, and thought to myself that that girl had been born under a bad omen. It was easy to see that she would become a very beautiful girl, and somehow I sensed that this would become no blessing for her. I felt very sad, and within I sought an answer to a question I have posed myself too many times: why did I fight? My life was a life of killing, and I had chosen it. Was there another chance? Kill or be killed�is this life in Mystara? Is there really no other way, but fight or let someone else fight for you, refusing to touch your sword and then having murderers at your service, like far too many illuminated merchants of Darokin? Or pretend to act in the name of justice and law like our Senators? Or simply avoid any hypocrisy by victimizing underlings openly like in Glantri or Alphatia? Was it enough to pretend to bring the light of Thyatian civilization to the barbarians of the Hinterlands, who probably preferred being left alone, and whose lands were not too useful to the Empire? But it is not among the duties, much less the rights, of a soldier, to think over these matters. Our duty has always been obey. Wish it had been different. Wish that my life had been different, that I had made the right choices. I was in Sundsvall, as I said before. When I saw her, I thought that she was that girl. I couldn�t understand what she was doing there. She seemed very comfortable in her Alphatian silk-clothing, walking through the streets in the company of other aristocrats. She passed a few meters from me, I looked her directly in her eyes, ignoring the fact that not many servants would act the same in that land. She saw me. I was sure she had blushed faintly. I walked for a while not too far in front of her, and then entered the inn where I was lodged. I didn�t know why I had acted so�maybe I was just curious, curious to know what she was doing in Alphatia, after all that had happened to her. But when I entered in my room, too tired to think, I just said to myself that my mind had played my a joke, and that I simply couldn�t remember right. Then I fell asleep. I heard a knock at the door and I immediately woke up. �Yes?�, said I, with my heavy Thyatian accent. �Mister, didn�t wanna disturb you, but I received this for you.� I didn�t reply. I got up from my bed and unlocked the door. I opened and stirred the pock-marked face of a servant. �Well? Where is it?� �Where�s my tip?� I groaned and gave him a coin. He smiled and gave me a letter. I locked the door, and turned to my room. A bed, a chair, nothing else. What more could a poor Dunadaler of Thyatian origins afford in Sundsvall? I was very surprised by the city. It seemed that no logic guided its building. Poor inns, taverns and homes of servants was mixed among the palaces of the wealthy, emphasizing the contrast between the magic using aristocracy and the servant class. Normal-looking houses were few, and belonged generally to the gentry. I looked outside the window. The light was fading slowly, in that early spring evening. I had probably slept a couple of hours. I yawned, then I watched the letter and opened it with a knife. SERVANT, I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT YOU ARE SEARCHING FOR A JOB. CONSIDERING THAT DURING MY LADY�S PAST STAYING IN DUNADALE YOU HAVE SERVED HER WELL, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO SEARCH THE FORTUNE IN HER PALACE AT THE GLASSHOUSE ROW. YOU ARE REQUESTED TO SHOW UP AT 11.00 TOMORROW MORNING. NO DELAY WILL BE ACCEPTED. -IN THE NAME OF HIS MISTRESS, ERTRAN, HOUSEMASTER OF LADY ELOISE Well, what did THIS mean? I thought about the encounter I had that afternoon with *�but I had to be careful. What did I know about Alphatian servants and their masters? This Eloisa could had heard that I was looking for a new master, after the death of the old one during the Thyatian conquest of Dunadale�or, better said, my assumed identity was. In a land like Alphatia, it is better to lie outright, than use complicated magic to assume another appearance. Alphatians are so used with magic that they will surely detect any form of illusionism, if not of real top class�but they are much less careful when confronted by direct action. I had learned it during the years of the War of Wrath, especially during the siege of Redstone, and the months I spent with the guerilla troops of Phileus Furmenglaive on the Isle of Dawn. How many Alphatians had I killed during those days? And now I was in their capital. It still showed the scars of the Glantrian magic. The Imperial Palace had been rebuilt, but now Zandor was on the throne. Zandor had always seemed a madman, according to what the Alphatian magicians had said�but when he had reached the throne, he immediately showed how much this was false. Maybe Zandor was more Thyatian than Alphatian, and he had deceived all the magic users with his appearant power lust and desire of wealth and fame, or was he so Alphatian that he was able to reign brilliantly because he knew it was the only way to hold the power? It was not important to me, anyway. I didn�t care what the Alphatian Emperor wanted, or what he was. And most servants in Alphatia didn�t care the same. Two years had passed since those days. It was now AC 1011. And my task in Sundsvall had nothing to do with Zandor. It felt like dancing on the edge of a volcano when, the morning after, I entered the Palace of Lady Eloisa. I was a little nervous. I didn�t understand why they had chosen me for the mission. I was not suited for it. But they sought a high-in-rank. And they sought someone who had ties with the men who had fought in Redstone, during the famous 1005-1007 siege. I was a centurion primi pili, that means the most experienced of the non-commissioned officers, but I took soon the place of the captain of the 4th banner of the XXth Cohort, that died three days after the start of the war. I had spent my time in the Army mostly fighting�but I knew it was my duty to avenge all the men that had died because of the betrayal of one. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:39:33 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: Unpredictable odds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jacob Skytte wrote: > Caroletti wrote: > > > Halflings are the most stupid race of beings that has been produced by Mystara. > > The Five Shires would be a good place for a prisoner colony. > > 8-) > > Actually I've heard that Tortles are even stupider (but at least they taste good in soup), Fhou ftell fme? [speaking while eating soup] Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:40:52 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: Unpredictable odds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul George Dooley wrote: > > Halflings are the most stupid race of beings that has been produced by > Mystara. > > The Five Shires would be a good place for a prisoner colony. > > 8-) > > > Hmmm. Wasn't it the last time you tried that sort of thing in the area > the entire "Mighty Thyatian Empire" beat a hasty retreat from two Hin > paddling a barrel in your direction? >;^)~ Retuned Mail- Error notification. This message was unfortunately not delivered to the following recipient: Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis Try again. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:03:18 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: skothar in 24 miles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit thibault sarlat wrote: > as for the skothar project in 24 miles > here is what i ve done so far (1.45 meg in ping format) > http://perso.club-internet.fr/thibsylv/sko24mdraft.png When I get to the address, instead of visualizing the map I receive a pc-language version of the file. I don't know what the name is technically, but it is something like $%�((("(("&")("=)(/ )(/"(/&")(/=)! or at least that's the sense it makes to me. The same happens with the other file. Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 07:48:37 -0600 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Web Warlock Organization: The Other Side, http://rpghost.com/WebWarlock/ Subject: New Mystara Forum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey everyone! A new Mystara Forum has opened up at PlanetADnD. It would be nice to to get some discussions going with people that are really into the world (that's you!) and those who have yet experience this world (that would be just about everyone on PlanetADnD except me!). So please come by and take a look, or least check out thier downloads section. They just all the rights to use Olik massive netbook page and use all of his reviews so this site is quickly becomming one of the largest and best place to get anything for your game. The URL is http://www.planetadnd.com/. I promised the webmaster that a Mystara forum would be popular! Thanks! Warlock. -- Web Warlock webwarlock@iname.com The Other Side, http://rpghost.com/WebWarlock/ Home of the Complete Netbook of Witches and Warlocks ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:10:55 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "G.P. Agosta" Subject: Re: skothar in 24 miles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Caroletti wrote: > thibault sarlat wrote: > > When I get to the address, instead of visualizing the map I receive > a pc-language version of the file. I don't know what the name is > technically, > but it is something like > > $%�((("(("&")("=)(/ > )(/"(/&")(/=)! Your browser is not able to visualize png images, so you see the file (binary) with no format applied. Now, if you save it to your HD and then open it with any of the most common image visualization/manipulation programs (ACDSee or PSP on Win, GIMP on Linux), you will be able to see it. -- Giampaolo Agosta agathokles@libero.it agosta@fusberta.elet.polimi.it http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:14:05 +0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Federico Kaftal Subject: Ogg.: Re: [MYSTARA] Unpredictable odds Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 MY halfling Sebastian Van Hohengarten (6th lev., with a mere +2 sortsword) slayed 80% of the Amber dudes in X2 Castle Amber with his own hands. Well... before he died in a fireball among the Shadow Elves caves a couple of years later, that is. Requiescat In Pace. Federico Il Wed, 17 January 2001, Caroletti ha scritto: > > > > > Hmmm... Now, years later, I wonder... There must have been magical powers involved! Perhaps the Glantrian do have the right idea about what to do with those little couch potatoes? What am I saying? Of course they don't. But I do wonder... And it would be an interesting thing to study! > > > > :) > > > > - The Stalker (never so embarrased again!) > > Halflings are the most stupid race of beings that has been produced by Mystara. > The Five Shires would be a good place for a prisoner colony. > 8-) > > Iulius Sergius Scaevola > Captain of the XXth Cohort > Port Lucinius, Thyatis > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. AltaVista Free email service ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:17:47 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: KoRneR Subject: Re: Unpredictable odds In-Reply-To: <001401c07f49$b2b943c0$1c14ebc3@uchicago.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, [iso-8859-1] Andr=E9s Piquer Otero wrote: > cute elf PC decides to try and Dispel the Barrier!!! I almost sneered and > made the calculation: a 6th level elf against a 25th level cleric has a 9= 5% > chance of failure!! I told her that the energies of Simm seemed ultra-evi= l > and mighty, so that she could re-think and use a better spell... but she > insisted and I, for once, rolled in public, and a square 99 came out!!! my advice: 1) NEVER roll public (or never let players know what you are rolling) 2) If you don't like it, say "You failed." or "No can do." who says that you should be fair, they should win/survive and have fun over YOU? Never let your hard work be foiled by some incompetent and dice-roling lucky twirps. Protect your work and image. RULE. ;> greetings, =09=09=09=09=09=09KoRneR =09=09=09=09=09(a.k.a. Ivan Stanojevic) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- PFCode: v1.2a r+d>s BO 0/0/ FD 0- 0 TFC 3 0 99.3% <18nov0> ICQ#: 32555524=09=09=09=09=09=09feeling like a mail: reaper@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu=09=09=09=09freak on a leash. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:21:24 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: KoRneR Subject: Re: Music for roleplaying games? In-Reply-To: <200101160541.VAA30909@mail3.bigmailbox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Ramses Ramirez wrote: > thing I have come to obtaining fantasy music is downloading MP3s from > the Baldur's Gate computer game series. I am of the opinion that you may try Heroes of Might & Magic.. it has some cool music. background for battles for one. greetings, KoRneR (a.k.a. Ivan Stanojevic) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- PFCode: v1.2a r+d>s BO 0/0/ FD 0- 0 TFC 3 0 99.3% <18nov0> ICQ#: 32555524 feeling like a mail: reaper@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu freak on a leash. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:00:27 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Geoff Gander Subject: Re: new maps!!!! > >On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, thibault sarlat wrote: > >> hi everyone >> I recently was oriented toward a nice program called Dungeon crafter which >> allows us to draw dungeons really TSR like looking. >> to be more familiar with it i took upon myself to redrew a nice dungeon (B7) >> in which i had a lot of fun both as a player and as a DM >> the first two maps are now available on my site. Those look really good! How much was the software? Geoff -- Geoff Gander, BA 97 Cartographer/Game Designer/Government Peon Carnifex Loremaster au998@freenet.carleton.ca : www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Realm/2091 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:01:59 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Geoff Gander Subject: Re: Unpredictable odds > >On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Jacob Skytte wrote: All the more reason for me to dust off my Dark Shire, and toss evil halflings at my PCs - who needs liches and forbidden cults - halflings are trouble enough! :-) Geoff -- Geoff Gander, BA 97 Cartographer/Game Designer/Government Peon Carnifex Loremaster au998@freenet.carleton.ca : www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Realm/2091 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:41:12 +0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Gordon McCormick Subject: Re: NPC Please In-Reply-To: <3A6540D9.9E032781@tin.it>; from scarole@TIN.IT on Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 07:51:05AM +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 07:51:05AM +0100, Caroletti wrote: > eikab wrote: > > > > > Is someone of you have done sone NPC humanoids, can he/she send it to me? > > Thanks. > > > > Eikab > > A lot of NPCs are present at the Official Mystara Page. Guess where? In the > NPC section. I don't know if there are interesting humanoids, though. > Take a look at dnd.starflung.com There's mention of some humanoids by myself and Francesco at http://dnd.starflung.com/caerfuln.html http://dnd.starflung.com/dhrom.html http://dnd.starflung.com/vistruth.html http://dnd.starflung.com/talebrin.html http://dnd.starflung.com/talebrik.html http://dnd.starflung.com/theunder.html gordon ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 07:50:06 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: John Calvin Subject: Re: new maps!!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> Those look really good! How much was the software? Geoff << I just checked out the site and apparently it is freeware. I plan on downloading the thing tonight. John ===== Rule #46. If an advisor says to me "My liege, he is but one man. What can one man possibly do?", I will reply "This." and kill the advisor. from "A Guide to Becoming an Evil Overlord" by Peter Anspach __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:52:01 +0200 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Solmyr Subject: Re: Alphatian mages are evil and/or vampires Comments: cc: Porphyrogenitus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Knott wrote: > > You should know that the charge of vampirism is ridiculous -- > haven't you killed several Alphatians with completely mundane > weapons? And didn't most of them stay dead and not turn > into gas? Of course, you should probably repeat that experiment > until you are sure.... ;) > No, they didn't turn into gas. Some of them did create gas from their nether regions, though. We shall continue our research on this. -- ****************** Aleksei Andrievski aka Solmyr, Archmage of the Azure Star solmyr@kolumbus.fi http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Fortress/2198/index.html ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:28:29 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "David S. Leland" Subject: Re: A Trick of the Tail- 1. Dance on a Volcano In-Reply-To: <3A6583BF.C3F48443@tin.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 03:36 AM 1/17/01, Caroletti wrote: A TRICK OF THE TAIL by Giulio N. Caroletti 1. DANCE ON A VOLCANO Cool story. What's with the Genesis reference? :) David ./ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ \. < David S Leland ~|~ dleland@cogsci.ucsd.edu > | PhD Candidate ~|~ 858-534-9754(lab)/-1128(fax) | < UCSD Cog Sci ~|~ cogsci.ucsd.edu/~dleland > .\ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:40:21 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Piquer_Otero?= Subject: Re: Unpredictable odds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >my advice: > 1) NEVER roll public (or never let players know what you are rolling) > 2) If you don't like it, say "You failed." or "No can do." >who says that you should be fair, they should win/survive and have fun >over YOU? Never let your hard work be foiled by some incompetent and >dice-roling lucky twirps. Protect your work and image. RULE. ;> Thanks for the advice; I really go into the standard savy DMing for keeping the history interesting over rules (both hindering PCs and giving them a hand with just die rolls make things move in a nondesirable way), but, for those "climatic encounters", I just wanted to see how pure fair plain odds worked... besides, my PCs did some smart thinking, that Simm was a cleric and thus their better chance was pressing melee onto him and making him exhaust his spells, especially against a "saves with 2 or more halfling". and it is funny, I got this conclusion: **A HIGH LEVEL CLERIC IS A LOUSY OPPONENT FOR A MID LEVEL PARTY!!!!!!**** No matter that Simm was 25th lvl mean and Chaotic and my party of 6 PCs averaged 7: if the small trick of the Barrier does not work (and there was a 5% chance of it not working), it's all up to relying on PCs failing saving throws, using hold person, slay living, poison and the like... the only damage spells are cause wounds, and they affect individuals and require the cleric to get into melee, bad idea... and for defenses, just cureall and such, and that gives the opponents a free round of hacking... morale: if you have an adventure with a cleric as the PCs nemesis, be sure to surround him with a good deal of cronies or corpses to animate (that was a big flaw of HWA1, Simm had Animate Dead, but the areas in which he was had no corpses, so no zombies unlessa PC got killed!), otherwise, he'll get beaten with time and a small luck, even if he is 36th level... Andr�s ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:59:13 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Mischa E Gelman Subject: Oenkmarian NPC: Atacal In-Reply-To: <007501c0801d$948f4c80$e1871b97@vucppqlj> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In response to the request for Oenkmarian NPCs, I'll try to write up a couple today. Feel free to adapt to your needs. Atacal History: Atacal was born 33 years ago, the son of a prominent Atztanteotl priest. He seemed to be in line to follow his father in occupation and prominence, but a rebellious streak led him to branching out on his own. He begun studying other religions and found the teachings of Karaash the most insightful and interesting. After several years of covertly studying this religion's theology, he was discovered by his father, who notified the authorities. Atacal went into hiding, where he has remained for the past decade. He has steadily worked his way into greater power, becoming Karaash's chief shaman in Oenkmar. Personality: Despite his years on the run, Atacal is not a lone wolf, preferring to work with others as a team. His charming personality (by orcish standards) helps make this an easier task and he has developed a small group of loyal Karaash followers. He looks forward to the day when Atztanteotl and his followers will be toppled from the leadership of Oenkmar and my assist those who help oppose this regime. He does not want to be killed though, so will act subtly or behind the scenes much of the time, especially avoiding direct conflict unless absolutely necessary. He believes in orcih superiority, but recognizes that other races have some value and will just them on an individual basis. Appearance: Atacal is a bit puny by common orc standards, being just 5'9" and 165#. His short brown hair is well-kempt and his grey skin is kept as clean as possible for an orcish outlaw. He rarely wears armor or carries arms, but despite this and his size can strike an imposing presence if so desired. Combat Notes: He is a 6th-level common orc shaman. AC 8; hp 23; at 1; D by spell or unarmed combat (owns a Karaash sword gri-gri); save C6 or F6; ML 10; Al N; S 8, I 12, W 16, D 11, Co 9, Ch 14. Languages:Elvish (Oenkmarian). Non-weapon proficiencies: Honor Karaash 17, City Survival 12, Escape Artist 11, Knowledge [Oenkmarian politics] 12. Spells: 2 1st, 2 2nd, 1 3rd. Owns no amulets or magic items. - Mischa [N]ow that OPS has made inroads in television coverage, in Internet and print media coverage and even within the game itself, perhaps it's safe to point out that OPS is not, and has never been, a magic bullet. The metric has flaws that make it a poor tool for serious, in-depth evaluation. - Joe Sheehan, BP editor, 7/19/00 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:59:09 +1100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: shawn stanley Subject: Re: NPC Please Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 15:41 17/01/01 +0000, you wrote: >On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 07:51:05AM +0100, Caroletti wrote: >> eikab wrote: >> >> > >> > Is someone of you have done sone NPC humanoids, can he/she send it to me? >> > Thanks. >> > >> > Eikab >> >> A lot of NPCs are present at the Official Mystara Page. Guess where? In the >> NPC section. I don't know if there are interesting humanoids, though. >> Take a look at dnd.starflung.com > >There's mention of some humanoids by myself and Francesco at > >http://dnd.starflung.com/caerfuln.html >http://dnd.starflung.com/dhrom.html >http://dnd.starflung.com/vistruth.html >http://dnd.starflung.com/talebrin.html >http://dnd.starflung.com/talebrik.html >http://dnd.starflung.com/theunder.html what would be people's suggestions for categorising the NPC page? shawn stanley http://dnd.starflung.com what have you done for me lately ... more to the point what have i done for me - mightyfew, "i can't wait" ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:07:07 +1100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: shawn stanley Subject: Re: New Mystara Forum Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:48 17/01/01 -0600, you wrote: >Hey everyone! > >A new Mystara Forum has opened up at PlanetADnD. >It would be nice to to get some discussions going with people that are >really into the world (that's you!) and those who have yet experience this >world (that would be just about everyone on PlanetADnD except me!). > >So please come by and take a look, or least check out thier downloads >section. They just all the rights to use Olik massive netbook page and use >all of his reviews so this site is quickly becomming one of the largest and >best place to get anything for your game. > >The URL is http://www.planetadnd.com/. > >I promised the webmaster that a Mystara forum would be popular! I don't know if a new forum is what Mystara really needs, especially since there's the Wizards run newsgroup which doesn't get enough traffic. And since the Wizards run website has an eye kept on in it by Wizards then traffic there is the most direct indicator to them of the health of the campaign world. You can access the Mystara Message Boards through any standard news browser. You need to set your news server as tank.wizards.com and then access the RPG.DnD.OtherWorlds.Mystara news group. shawn stanley http://dnd.starflung.com what have you done for me lately ... more to the point what have i done for me - mightyfew, "i can't wait" ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:17:18 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Chris Furneaux Subject: Re: War Machine & Sea Machine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Two points against this: Firstly, wether rightly > or wrongly, that's not > how it works in the game, check disadvantages even > though that section also > contains the fallacious twaddle about how > maneuverable a knight in full > armour is. thats not untrue. A knight in full feild plate can do acrobatics (cartweels, leap on his horse, etc) without trouble. A knight in tounament plate who falls off his horse can hardly stand up and had to be craned into his saddle. Tounament armour had thicker steel and in some places (chest, joints) up to 3 layers of steel and so was much heavier. error => full plate & gothic armour = jousting (tounament) armour. Gothic armour could easilly be as light as chain mail. IIRC the RC states that magic has had a simmilar effect to armour weight as guns, and it is therefore heavier then normal plate, but where there is little magic why put yourself out and what effect does it really have, most spells arn't effected by AC??? I'm just going to say I don't like the rule and leave it at that. > Secondly the inductance in ones body > caused by the lightningbolt > flowing through the armour would in effect be like > being cooked in a > microwave. Very good point, probally more then a fireball. > Skirmishers have to get through the unit(s) in > front of the mages in > order to engage them though. You put them close > enough to be able to use > their magic, but with a nice shield of steel in > front of them to both > protect them and take proper advantage of their > effect upon the enemy can see some ligistical and training problems, but if you think it'd work fine, I don't. I think they'd probally hit their own troops periodically, and decimate their moral making then an easier target. > > save your horses for more important matters. > > > More important than cavalry? no, more important then killing mages. > > sommon a couple of dragons to take out their unit, > > should rip through the mages at close range, while > > they would not be so much trouble for fighters. > > > 100 magic missiles nail your dragon DEAD! DEAD! > DEAD! You really have a thing for mages don't you. well they just have better have enough spells to go around, and not have just memorized area effect and lightning bolt spells IMO. > > exactly like hitting the mage unit with flaming > > artilery. (low level mages don't have any major > > protections and I imagine mage robes are firly > > flamable. There's more then one way to skin a > mage. > > > First you have to recognise them as a mage unit > BEFORE your combustables > are ALL hit by wiping out your artillery with a Fire > elemental Easy, they're the ones not wearing armour, without swords and dressed all fancy smancy. Oh and I'm sure in a magical world we can come up with something that won't combust till after impact (ceramic balls filled with combustable liquid and a stopper that is only removed just before fireing when a wick is placed in and lit. Oh and I hope when they sommon the elemental for this they don't get hit by any other artillery because that could break their concentration, they lose control and an angry elemental comes to get them (they waste more spells, etc) AND there needs to be a large ammount of fire nearby (bonfire etc) a fairly obvious target. > > Tactics lesson one. > > don't ever play their game unless your better at > it > > then them. > > Or can cheat of course! ;^) well I guess :-) > > Tactics lesson two. > > exploit their weaknesses. > > > And your own too! Make them think you are weak where you are strong, avoid them knowing your weakness, keep them on their toes. Mages have fairly obvious weaknesses, fighters do not. Let them think victory is at hand and crush them. Then get to the interesting bits that involve people who can actually use swords. > You are missing the one thing about magic > though that does bollix up > most wars in which it takes place though, it's sheer > flexibility. Yes but it is the high powered mage that is a threat, not a measily unit of low level mages. > Oh, and a > small word of caution, never count anyone beaten > until AFTER the fact. Oh agreed. I'm just saying exploit over confidence that is common in magic users. This is fun :-) Chris. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:32:27 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Mischa E Gelman Subject: Re: NPC Please In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20010118065907.007691e8@mail.alphalink.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > what would be people's suggestions for categorising the NPC page? How about Name/Race/Culture/Class/Level/Gender as a brief guide? - Mischa [N]ow that OPS has made inroads in television coverage, in Internet and print media coverage and even within the game itself, perhaps it's safe to point out that OPS is not, and has never been, a magic bullet. The metric has flaws that make it a poor tool for serious, in-depth evaluation. - Joe Sheehan, BP editor, 7/19/00 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:33:08 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Mischa E Gelman Subject: Oenkmarian NPC: Tolicil In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Tolicil History: Born 20 years ago, Tolicil has led a fairly uneventful life in Oenkmar. At the age of 15, he joined the city guard, rotating between the mines and enclave bridges. He has recently been reassigned to a prison guard role, taking his new assignment in stride. Personality: Tolicil doesn't fit the stereotype of the dumb orc or dumb guard. He isn't well-read, being illiterate, but possesses a fair amount of common sense and also enjoys trivia, specializing in unusual facts about insect life. He often lectures his prisoners on such matters, which tends to bore some to death, though others are interested. Tolicil is loyal and cannot be bribed, but he can be duped or overpowered. He believes in stabbing first and asking questions later in combat situations. The Oenkmarian authorities really don't care if a prisoner or two is killed as a result. Appearance: At 4'2", Tolicil is a fairly typical goblin in terms of size, but is quite the runt by Oenkmarian standards. He wears chain armor that covers his gret hide very well and which makes him appear bulkier than he is. Armed with a spear, this cow-faced brute is often seen with a snarling expression. Combat Notes: He is a 2nd-level goblin. AC 5 (chain); hp 11; at 1; D 1-6 (spear, basic skill); save F3; ML 11; Al LE; S 13, I 11, W 14, D 10, Co 11, Ch 8. Languages: Oenkmarian (illiterate). General Skills: Strider Empathy 14, Labor (City Guard) 11, Insect Lore 11, Muscle 13. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:32:52 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: thibault sarlat Subject: borea and skothar in gif format MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok i put the gif files also. so you can take both ping and gif files (same filenames) www.perso.club-internet.fr/thibsylv/boreadraft.gif www.perso.club-internet.fr/thibsylv/sko24mdraft.gif Thibault Sarlat. ICQ 16622177. homepage http://www.mystara.com.bi Join me at: thibsylv@club-internet.fr or at clenarius@hotmail.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:56:17 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Mischa E Gelman Subject: Oenkmar NPC: Coali In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here's a third one. Coali History: Coali is a 25-year old ogre, a former star of the arena for her tlachtli play. Little is known about her pre-arena past despite her recent prominence. Two years ago she retired from active competition and now serves in the capacity of arena manager, coaching teams for a fee and ensuring prisoners used in the arena stay in line. Personality: Coali is gruff and violent, a temperment that won her high praise when she was a tlachtli star. A well-known figure, she can get away with a lot that others might not, including the murder of prisoners brought to the arena when those prisoners get out of line. Her fame has also gone to her head, giving her quite the superiority complex. She demands the utmost respect and those who are insufficiently flattering are in for a pounding. Appearance: Standing near 10 feet tall, this grey-skinned giant is an authoritative sight. Belonging to the group Homo Monstrum Bellicosus, she has braided blond hair and wide grey eyes. She keeps her teeth nicely filed to make her looking even more fearsome - hardly needed given her height and the size of her biceps. She wears fairly bland clothing or armor and usually carries a whip or sword. Combat Notes: She is a 5th-level ogre. AC by armor or 9; hp 52; at 1; D 1-4+3+entangle (skilled with whip, strength bonus) or 1-8 +5 (basic skill with sword+2, strength bonus); save F8; ML 12; Al C; S 18, I 7, W 10, D 12, Co 14, Ch 11. General Skills: Muscle 18, Drinking 15, Intimidation 19. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:58:01 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: thibault sarlat Subject: url error!! sorry (maps available) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://perso.club-internet.fr/thibsylv/boreadraft.gif http://perso.club-internet.fr/thibsylv/sko24mdraft.gif Thibault Sarlat. ICQ 16622177. homepage http://www.mystara.com.bi Join me at: thibsylv@club-internet.fr or at clenarius@hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Mischa E Gelman To: Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 8:59 PM Subject: [MYSTARA] Oenkmarian NPC: Atacal > In response to the request for Oenkmarian NPCs, I'll try to write up a > couple today. Feel free to adapt to your needs. > > Atacal > > History: Atacal was born 33 years ago, the son of a prominent Atztanteotl > priest. He seemed to be in line to follow his father in occupation and > prominence, but a rebellious streak led him to branching out on his own. > He begun studying other religions and found the teachings of Karaash the > most insightful and interesting. After several years of covertly studying > this religion's theology, he was discovered by his father, who notified > the authorities. Atacal went into hiding, where he has remained for the > past decade. He has steadily worked his way into greater power, becoming > Karaash's chief shaman in Oenkmar. > > Personality: Despite his years on the run, Atacal is not a lone wolf, > preferring to work with others as a team. His charming personality (by > orcish standards) helps make this an easier task and he has developed a > small group of loyal Karaash followers. He looks forward to the day when > Atztanteotl and his followers will be toppled from the leadership of > Oenkmar and my assist those who help oppose this regime. He does not want > to be killed though, so will act subtly or behind the scenes much of the > time, especially avoiding direct conflict unless absolutely necessary. He > believes in orcih superiority, but recognizes that other races have some > value and will just them on an individual basis. > > Appearance: Atacal is a bit puny by common orc standards, being just 5'9" > and 165#. His short brown hair is well-kempt and his grey skin is kept > as clean as possible for an orcish outlaw. He rarely wears armor or > carries arms, but despite this and his size can strike an imposing > presence if so desired. > > Combat Notes: He is a 6th-level common orc shaman. AC 8; hp 23; at 1; D by > spell or unarmed combat (owns a Karaash sword gri-gri); save C6 or F6; ML > 10; Al N; S 8, I 12, W 16, D 11, Co 9, Ch 14. Languages:Elvish > (Oenkmarian). Non-weapon proficiencies: Honor Karaash 17, City Survival > 12, Escape Artist 11, Knowledge [Oenkmarian politics] 12. Spells: 2 1st, > 2 2nd, 1 3rd. Owns no amulets or magic items. > > > - Mischa > > [N]ow that OPS has made inroads in television coverage, in Internet and > print media coverage and even within the game itself, perhaps it's safe to > point out that OPS is not, and has never been, a magic bullet. The metric > has flaws that make it a poor tool for serious, in-depth evaluation. - Joe > Sheehan, BP editor, 7/19/00 > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:10:31 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Agathokles Subject: Re: NPC Please MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit shawn stanley wrote: > > what would be people's suggestions for categorising the NPC page? You mean how to divide the NPCs? I'd say by either origin or current whereabouts. Also, dividing "famous historical" types from (un)living NPCs could be useful. -- Giampaolo Agosta agathokles@libero.it agosta@fusberta.elet.polimi.it http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles/index.htm ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:36:14 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: NPC Please MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > what would be people's suggestions for categorising the NPC page? > > shawn stanley 1. By nation, then divide them in three parts: 1. AC 1000 2. AC 1010 3. Latest Almanac EG: Thyatis AC 1000: Thincol Torion AC 1010: Someone else AC 1016: Iulius Scaevola Glantri AC 1000: Etienne AC 1010: Etienne AC 1016: Etienn ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:39:53 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: A Trick of the Tail- 1. Dance on a Volcano MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "David S. Leland" wrote: > At 03:36 AM 1/17/01, Caroletti wrote: > A TRICK OF THE TAIL > by Giulio N. Caroletti > > 1. DANCE ON A VOLCANO > > Cool story. What's with the Genesis reference? :) He he he...you win a prize for being the first one to notice the tons of references to progressive rock that I use in my works. I will write a story whose chapters are named after the songs which makes up "A trick of the tail", a Genesis album from 1976 that I like very much. Nobody cared of other references in other works: if someone wants to try, take a look at the title of the chapters of my "Nentsun Chronicles", that can be easily found at Shawn's. Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:56:34 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: url error!! sorry (maps available) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > http://perso.club-internet.fr/thibsylv/sko24mdraft.gif > > Thibault Sarlat. > Excellent! Marvelous! A Genius' task! Now all you have to do is find a way to put city names in there... ...I am never satisfied 100%, you know...8-) Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:14:31 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: James Gaines Subject: Re: Unpredictable odds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well DUH! 6*7 =3D 42 and 42 > 25. Don't compare average levels, compare total levels. That's why 4 PCs = at 1st level find 8 Kobolds challenging, where as at 4th level it takes at = least 32... A 25th level mage should have had a pair of 10th level acolytes, = just to even things out a little. Dark Lord B0unty I have a tendency to wear my mind on my sleeve, I have a history of losing my shirt. -----Original Message----- From: Andr=E9s Piquer Otero [mailto:anpro@ACCESOCERO.ES] No matter that Simm was 25th lvl mean and Chaotic and my party of 6 PCs averaged 7:=20 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 02:34:43 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Angelo Bertolli Subject: Original D&D - Character Sheets Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html
I don't know how compatible the MS Rich Text Format is, but I have a couple of character sheets in this format on my page at http://members.fortunecity.com/abertoll/dnd/ for anyone who is interested.  One of them is a technique for allowing you to make ``exotic'' characters.
 
By the way before anyone gets mad, all the anti-AD&D stuff is supposed to be funny.
 
Angelo

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******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:25:49 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: SteelAngel Subject: Re: Original D&D - Character Sheets In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Angelo Bertolli wrote: > By the way before anyone gets mad, all the anti-AD&D stuff is supposed to > be funny. Hehehe, I like it! Even though I do like 3e, I hold abject hatred for 2nd edition. I especially like the fighter/mage/cleric/theif/illusionist/ninja/psionicist/ dragonslayer/deathknight/druid/mystic/shaman/tattoo-man/samurai/ monk/ranger/paladin running around, cutting people's heads off from across the room. It sounds too much like Elminster. Makes me want to guffaw! Death to the Realms! Ethan ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:37:38 -0600 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: M Novy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hello fellow Mystarans. It has been along time since I have joined in on the list. I used to about two years ago under the name nurvel but i havent recently. I need some of you to compile a list of favored weapons for the immortals. I play 3e and if you select the domain of war for a cleric you can get bonuses like being able to use you the deity's favorite weapon. Thanks......I just finished reading ac 1015 alamanac and I like what I have read. I have a location that i would like to add to the canon stuff as soon as I get it together. Mike _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:50:42 -0600 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: M Novy Subject: Re: new maps!!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sorry if I'm behind, but I need a good map maker. Was this purchased or what? Mike N _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 23:21:16 -0600 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: M Novy Subject: Re: url error!! sorry (maps available) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Can someone please help me find a generator like the one used for that map or the ones that are made up by some of you guys. I have a few generators but I want one close to that. I am working on a project right now to submit but i need something better to create it. Thanks Mike _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:10:43 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: thibault sarlat Subject: Re: new maps!!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit no it's freeware . You can get it from my site (download section) Thibault Sarlat. ICQ 16622177. homepage http://www.mystara.com.bi Join me at: thibsylv@club-internet.fr or at clenarius@hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: M Novy To: Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] new maps!!!! > Sorry if I'm behind, but I need a good map maker. Was this purchased or > what? > > > > > Mike N > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:12:06 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: thibault sarlat Subject: Re: url error!! sorry (maps available) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i have a good way to make names on the maps. i just lack the time to do it... Thibault Sarlat. ICQ 16622177. homepage http://www.mystara.com.bi Join me at: thibsylv@club-internet.fr or at clenarius@hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Caroletti To: Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] url error!! sorry (maps available) > > http://perso.club-internet.fr/thibsylv/sko24mdraft.gif > > > > Thibault Sarlat. > > > > Excellent! Marvelous! A Genius' task! > Now all you have to do is find a way to put city names in there... > ..I am never satisfied 100%, you know...8-) > > Iulius Sergius Scaevola > Captain of the XXth Cohort > Port Lucinius, Thyatis > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:59:17 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: New Mystara Forum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Web Warlock wrote: > Hey everyone! > > A new Mystara Forum has opened up at PlanetADnD. > It would be nice to to get some discussions going with people that are > really into the world (that's you!) and those who have yet experience this > world (that would be just about everyone on PlanetADnD except me!). > > So please come by and take a look, or least check out thier downloads > section. They just all the rights to use Olik massive netbook page and use > all of his reviews so this site is quickly becomming one of the largest and > best place to get anything for your game. I think that the effort to make Mystara more known is to be appreciated, even if I think that maybe a new forum is not the best thing when we are so few. I even think that it's a problem that there are a ML and a MB for Mystara, because fans are few and we get only divided. What we need would be a good chat room for Mystara, I don't know wheter there are any and if someone here on the list uses it. It could be cool to have some direct conversation with a group of others. I have tried to take a look at the site, but my modem connection is too slow (very slow indeed) and I don't have time and patience to wait for everything to load. Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:11:16 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: Original D&D - Character Sheets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Angelo Bertolli wrote: > By the way before anyone gets mad, all the anti-AD&D stuff is supposed > to be funny. And it is... Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:15:33 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Paul George Dooley Subject: Re: War Machine & Sea Machine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A knight in tounament plate who falls off his > horse can hardly stand up and had to be craned into > his saddle. Depends who made the armour actually, some of them were very maneuverable until you started bolting the extra pieces and the shield in place. Also, having seen at Royal Armouries a man quickly stand unaided move to the mounting block and get ahorse with his left arm immobilised due to having the shield bolted on, as was his helm, I feel that craning wasn't anywhere near as prevalent as Hollywood makes out. > > Secondly the inductance in ones body > > caused by the lightningbolt > > flowing through the armour would in effect be like > > being cooked in a > > microwave. > > Very good point, probally more then a fireball. > My God! "Canon" actually agrees with both of us on this point. You do get a save bonus AND a damage reduction for fireball but nothing for lightningbol. >;^)~ > can see some ligistical and training problems, but if > you think it'd work fine, I don't. I think they'd > probally hit their own troops periodically, and > decimate their moral making then an easier target. > There really is very little difference between training infantry, cavalry, missile troops and artillery to work together with a unit also containing magicusers. You are right it's the training that helps. The friendly fire issue comes up with ANY differing trooptypes as you well know. BTW if your men are aware that they have mages who's to say the opposition doesn't have a couple too and it's their spells which took out a few of the friendlies. Training again plays a part as any troop which is aware of magic and has seen it's use in practice is more hardened to it so less likely to suffer from loss of morale. > You really have a thing for mages don't you. well they > just have better have enough spells to go around, and > not have just memorized area effect and lightning bolt > spells IMO. > They're just another tool in my box actually. Of course I know of ways to take them out but that would be telling wouldn't it? ;^) Most magical units are 3rd level so that's one magic missile and one sleep spell per man. add in the continual darkness, phantasmal force and web spells carried by a few rather than an invisibility spell for personal defence and that's a large amount of magic, even if you only have one such unit on the field. > > Easy, they're the ones not wearing armour, without > swords and dressed all fancy smancy. The troops I'm talking about are the rank and file low level mages, the ones in uniforms with shortswords and slings, apparently just another unit of skirmishers. Even if YOUR mages choose to make targets of themselves, mine have decided not to! :^P Oh and I'm sure > in a magical world we can come up with something that > won't combust till after impact (ceramic balls filled > with combustable liquid and a stopper that is only > removed just before fireing when a wick is placed in > and lit. So now the elemental is jumping up on down on the crockery chortling with glee, after watching the barrels used to bring the liquid to the battle areas explode. Oh and I hope when they sommon the elemental > for this they don't get hit by any other artillery > because that could break their concentration, they > lose control and an angry elemental comes to get them > (they waste more spells, etc) > AND there needs to be a large ammount of fire nearby > (bonfire etc) a fairly obvious target. > You mean the staff officer at the far end of the field well outside artillery range? The guy with a Dispel Magic in mind specifically to banish an uncontrolled elemental? What about if it's from a Staff, Device or Scroll? No obvious target there. Then again maybe it was called due to a druidical Summon Elemental, hence won't need to be concentrated upon. > Yes but it is the high powered mage that is a threat, > not a measily unit of low level mages. > Yeah, sure, you just go on believing that, it'd make my job so much easier in any fight we had. ;^P > > Oh, and a > > small word of caution, never count anyone beaten > > until AFTER the fact. > > Oh agreed. I'm just saying exploit over confidence > that is common in magic users. > Ah but there aren't any magic users in my forces, just magic wielding SOLDIERS a completely different animal! >:^)~ Hamlet I, v, 166 Words to live by? Paul ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:32:26 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Jacob Skytte Subject: Re: Favored weapons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable M Novy wrote: > Hello fellow Mystarans. It has been along time since I have joined in = on > the list. I used to about two years ago under the name nurvel but i = havent > recently. I need some of you to compile a list of favored weapons for = the > immortals. I play 3e and if you select the domain of war for a cleric = you > can get bonuses like being able to use you the deity's favorite = weapon. What you need is Wrath of the Immortals (WotI). Book I lists all the = known Immortals, special powers of their followers (including special = weapon use), and selected weapons that the Immortal uses personally. If = you don't have access to WotI, you can drop me a line, and I'll list = them for you. Jacob Skytte scythe@wanadoo.dk ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:36:18 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "G.P. Agosta" Subject: Re: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit M Novy wrote: > Hello fellow Mystarans. It has been along time since I have joined in on > the list. I used to about two years ago under the name nurvel but i havent > recently. I need some of you to compile a list of favored weapons for the > immortals. I play 3e and if you select the domain of war for a cleric you > can get bonuses like being able to use you the deity's favorite weapon. You can get some info by looking at the specialty priests in the Vaults of Pandius: http://dnd.starflung.com/specpre.html http://dnd.starflung.com/specpre2.html Of course, these are AD&D, so you will have to select one of the available weapons. Here are my choices for the Immortals listed in that file: Al Kalim Scimitar Alphaks Scourge Alphatia None (favored weapon for a pacifist deity?) Asterius Dagger Atruaghin Tomahawk (applicable to the other atruaghin immortals) Atzanteotl Spear Benekander None accessible to your average tech renaissance tech :) Calitha Harpoon Diamond Natural Attacks (supposing you're a Dragon) Diulanna Spear Djaea Mace Eyrindul Longbow Faunus Sickle Frey Longsword Freya Longsword Great One as Diamond Halav (Broad)Sword Hel Whip Ilsundal Longsword Ixion Two-handed sword Ka Bite Kaarash Bastard Sword Kagyar Battleaxe Khoronous Scythe Korotiku Nonaka (I can't think of a better one...) Koryis Martial Arts (defensive) Loki Dagger Masauwu Club Mealiden Longsword or Rapier (on the SC) Noumena Crossbow (repeating, if available) Odin Spear Opal as Diamond Orcus Whip Ordana Club Pearl as Diamond Other easy ones: Gorm Longsword Protius Trident Thanatos Scythe Thor Warhammer Vanya Sword or Lance -- Giampaolo Agosta agathokles@libero.it agosta@fusberta.elet.polimi.it http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 04:01:53 EST Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "Larry E. Lamb" Subject: Re: Favored weapons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/18/01 12:53:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, scythe@WANADOO.DK writes: << What you need is Wrath of the Immortals (WotI). Book I lists all the known >> Is this book OOP? ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:33:23 +0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Federico Kaftal Subject: Ogg.: Re: [MYSTARA] NPC Please Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 This is one possibility, but I suggest that you also add a tag on each character and list them also in alphabetical order on a separate list made only of active links. Please email me if I didn't make myself clear. Cheers, Federico ______________ Il Wed, 17 January 2001, Caroletti ha scritto: > > > what would be people's suggestions for categorising the NPC page? > > > > shawn stanley > > 1. By nation, then divide them in three parts: > 1. AC 1000 > > 2. AC 1010 > > 3. Latest Almanac > > EG: > > Thyatis > AC 1000: Thincol Torion > AC 1010: Someone else > AC 1016: Iulius Scaevola > Glantri > AC 1000: Etienne > AC 1010: Etienne > AC 1016: Etienn > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. AltaVista Free email service ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:36:06 +0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Gordon McCormick Subject: Re: NPC Please In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20010118065907.007691e8@mail.alphalink.com.au>; from stanles@ALPHALINK.COM.AU on Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 06:59:09AM +1100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 06:59:09AM +1100, shawn stanley wrote: > At 15:41 17/01/01 +0000, you wrote: > > > >There's mention of some humanoids by myself and Francesco at > > > >http://dnd.starflung.com/caerfuln.html > >http://dnd.starflung.com/dhrom.html > >http://dnd.starflung.com/vistruth.html > >http://dnd.starflung.com/talebrin.html > >http://dnd.starflung.com/talebrik.html > >http://dnd.starflung.com/theunder.html > > what would be people's suggestions for categorising the NPC page? The thing is I don't think those articles should be in the NPC bit since they're really describing campaign ideas and happen to mention NPC's in them. Kind of. Categorising all the myriad of different articles is not a trivial task, and I don't have any suggestions beyond what you're doing currently, which is pretty impressive. gordon, with no helpful suggestions again :) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:26:25 +1000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Michael Diehm Subject: Tanagorons/Tangor Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I'm intrigued by what happened to the Tanagorons of Skothar as described in the Hollow World Set. It seemed to suggest that their civilisation was wiped out by climatic changes caused by the Great Rain of Fire. Whilst I agree that a large portion of their land became mountainous/volcanic, Tangor Bay and other regions would seem very habitable to the people of Tangor. I also note from the Hollow World map that Jennites swept through and presumably conquered the Tangor Bay region and that there were many Tanagoron migrations. However, I believe that some sort of Tangor peoples still exist in the region originally labelled Empire of Tangor. Has anyone developed this possibility (I can't find anything on Tangor), or is there a consensus that only a few primitive scattered tribes exist in AC1000 ? Michael Diehm _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:08:13 +0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Colin Wilson Subject: Malachie Du Marais MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi there. I'm stuck on an issue regarding the (utterly cool) White Wolf. According to Gaz:3, Malachie is a werewolf (no surprise) and wants to create a werewolf principality. Some people at least know of his were- nature. According to the PWA, Malachie hides his werewolf nature and is now Prince of Morlay-Malinbois. But M-M is known as the Valley of Free Wolves. i.e. a Werewolf principality. So how can he hide his true nature if everone knows he runs 'Lycanthropy Central'? Unfortunatley, I still haven't tracked down a copy of 'Night Howlers' and so I'm a little short on the necesary info here. Can anyone tell me whether Glantri in general knows of Malachie's Lycanthropy? Cheers, Col. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:11:36 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "G.P. Agosta" Subject: Re: Tanagorons/Tangor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael Diehm wrote: > I'm intrigued by what happened to the Tanagorons of Skothar as described in > the Hollow World Set. It seemed to suggest that their civilisation was > wiped out by climatic changes caused by the Great Rain of Fire. Whilst I > agree that a large portion of their land became mountainous/volcanic, > Tangor > Bay and other regions would seem very habitable to the people of Tangor. It is possible that other races occupied those areas, displacing the Tanagoro or heavily influencing their culture. The Sherkasta (tiger-like Rakasta) are my first choice for this, especially since they were under the control of Rakshasas for a long time (therefore bringing with them an heavily indian-like culture). -- Giampaolo Agosta agathokles@libero.it agosta@fusberta.elet.polimi.it http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:33:20 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Wizards Shopper Subject: tangor antion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable there is still a strong tangor nation in skothar , but for some reason the= y ahve stopped to spread around. we must find some good reasons for that to have happened. I have some sugg= estions , tell me if you want to hear more about my humble opinion on this= subject. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:00:52 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Mzilikazi Subject: Re: Alphatian mages are evil and/or vampires [IC] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I shudder at the thought that nations of the Known World accept > the existance > of abhorrent creatures like you. > Alphatia delenda est! > 8-) And shudder you should.. You never know when we'll come for you.... *evil grin* - Count Mzilikazi ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:57:05 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: Oenkmarian NPC: Atacal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mischa E Gelman wrote: > Atacal > > He seemed to be in line to follow his father in occupation and > prominence, but a rebellious streak led him to branching out on his own. > He begun studying other religions and found the teachings of Karaash the > most insightful and interesting. I liked especially this part. It makes him a round character, not a stereotype-orc. Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:07:26 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: Tanagorons/Tangor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I also note from the Hollow World map that Jennites swept through and > presumably conquered the Tangor Bay region and that there were many > Tanagoron migrations. However, I believe that some sort of Tangor peoples > still exist in the region originally labelled Empire of Tangor. Has anyone > developed this possibility (I can't find anything on Tangor), or is there a > consensus that only a few primitive scattered tribes exist in AC1000 ? I have done some work on Tanagoro that will appear on the Mystaran Almanac 1017. I plan to do more in the future, but outside the Almanac. I am always willing to hear suggestions, either on the MML or in private mails. Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:09:01 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Wizards Shopper MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sometimes I receive messages whose sender is labeled as "Wizards Shopper". It has happened to Derek Adam, David Knott and Thibault Sarlat. I am curious of what it is. Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:20:55 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Jacob Skytte Subject: Re: Favored weapons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Larry E. Lamb wrote: > In a message dated 1/18/01 12:53:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, > scythe@WANADOO.DK writes: >=20 > << What you need is Wrath of the Immortals (WotI). Book I lists all = the known > >> >=20 >=20 > Is this book OOP? Yes, I'm pretty sure the Wrath of the Immortals Boxed Set is OOP. Jacob Skytte scythe@wanadoo.dk ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:06:03 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard?= Subject: Re: url error!! sorry (maps available) Comments: To: James Mishler In-Reply-To: <007201c080c8$39e1fca0$98759ec2@duke> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Thib, The maps are excellent as usual! I'm looking forward to seeing the completed versions. I was wondering if you could make a variant of the borea map to match James "Mystaros" Mishler's description of that area aswell? I'm sending a copy of this mail to James aswell, hoping that he might assist you in that task :D H�vard On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, thibault sarlat wrote: > http://perso.club-internet.fr/thibsylv/boreadraft.gif > > http://perso.club-internet.fr/thibsylv/sko24mdraft.gif > > > Thibault Sarlat. > ICQ 16622177. > homepage http://www.mystara.com.bi > Join me at: thibsylv@club-internet.fr > or at > clenarius@hotmail.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mischa E Gelman > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 8:59 PM > Subject: [MYSTARA] Oenkmarian NPC: Atacal > > > > In response to the request for Oenkmarian NPCs, I'll try to write up a > > couple today. Feel free to adapt to your needs. > > > > Atacal > > > > History: Atacal was born 33 years ago, the son of a prominent Atztanteotl > > priest. He seemed to be in line to follow his father in occupation and > > prominence, but a rebellious streak led him to branching out on his own. > > He begun studying other religions and found the teachings of Karaash the > > most insightful and interesting. After several years of covertly studying > > this religion's theology, he was discovered by his father, who notified > > the authorities. Atacal went into hiding, where he has remained for the > > past decade. He has steadily worked his way into greater power, becoming > > Karaash's chief shaman in Oenkmar. > > > > Personality: Despite his years on the run, Atacal is not a lone wolf, > > preferring to work with others as a team. His charming personality (by > > orcish standards) helps make this an easier task and he has developed a > > small group of loyal Karaash followers. He looks forward to the day when > > Atztanteotl and his followers will be toppled from the leadership of > > Oenkmar and my assist those who help oppose this regime. He does not want > > to be killed though, so will act subtly or behind the scenes much of the > > time, especially avoiding direct conflict unless absolutely necessary. He > > believes in orcih superiority, but recognizes that other races have some > > value and will just them on an individual basis. > > > > Appearance: Atacal is a bit puny by common orc standards, being just 5'9" > > and 165#. His short brown hair is well-kempt and his grey skin is kept > > as clean as possible for an orcish outlaw. He rarely wears armor or > > carries arms, but despite this and his size can strike an imposing > > presence if so desired. > > > > Combat Notes: He is a 6th-level common orc shaman. AC 8; hp 23; at 1; D by > > spell or unarmed combat (owns a Karaash sword gri-gri); save C6 or F6; ML > > 10; Al N; S 8, I 12, W 16, D 11, Co 9, Ch 14. Languages:Elvish > > (Oenkmarian). Non-weapon proficiencies: Honor Karaash 17, City Survival > > 12, Escape Artist 11, Knowledge [Oenkmarian politics] 12. Spells: 2 1st, > > 2 2nd, 1 3rd. Owns no amulets or magic items. > > > > > > - Mischa > > > > [N]ow that OPS has made inroads in television coverage, in Internet and > > print media coverage and even within the game itself, perhaps it's safe to > > point out that OPS is not, and has never been, a magic bullet. The metric > > has flaws that make it a poor tool for serious, in-depth evaluation. - Joe > > Sheehan, BP editor, 7/19/00 > > > > ******************************************************************** > > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > > > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc "God created man in his image, and then man returned the favour." -Voltaire ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:39:28 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard?= Subject: Re: Music for roleplaying games? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, The Stalker wrote: > Don't know this track though I do know the film (I actually have it > taped somewhere) - maybe I should check it out. IMHO most film music > works quite well for background music, but I particularly like the > track from Francis Ford Coppola's Dracula movie by Wojciech Kilar - > it's excellent and can work in the background without interfering in > your gaming sessions too much. A good deal of film music from both > Star Wars (by John Williams) and Star Trek (frequently by Jerry > Goldsmith) movies is also quite useful. In fact, I'm pretty sure the > music from Gladiator must also be excellent - I don't have the track, > but I have the movie on DVD and it's simply excellent! The Gladiator Soundtrack is excellent! I only use movie soundtracks in my Mystara campaign. I usually stay away from Star Wars. I love the movies and the music, but I think it brings too strong association to the actual movies to help set the mood. The Patriot sound track OTOH, also by Williams is highly recommended as is the Braveheart one. > Among more common music, I like to use put on cds by Enigma and the > like... And, yes I admit it, the music on the Red Steel cds! Well, I > like it, so sue me... (Hey - stop throwing that at me, Captain > Scaevola - you know I have my Protection from Normal Missiles up > already, so don't waste your energy :) ) I also like the Red Steel CDs, but my players hate them, so im not using those anymore :( H�vard Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc "God created man in his image, and then man returned the favour." -Voltaire ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:41:27 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Wizards Shopper Subject: Re: url error!! sorry (maps available) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i didn't know that our good friend james have made something on Borea. I am very interested to see his deeds.if they are just as good as his maps= of ochalea then i'll be more than satisfied. >-----Message d'origine----- >Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:06:03 +0100 >De: H=E5vard >Sujet: Re: =5BMYSTARA=5D url error=21=21 sorry (maps available) >A: MYSTARA-L=40ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > >Thib, > >The maps are excellent as usual=21 >I'm looking forward to seeing the completed versions. >I was wondering if you could make a variant of the borea map to match >James =22Mystaros=22 Mishler's description of that area aswell? > >I'm sending a copy of this mail to James aswell, hoping that he might >assist you in that task :D > >H=E5vard > > >On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, thibault sarlat wrote: > >> http://perso.club-internet.fr/thibsylv/boreadraft.gif >> >> http://perso.club-internet.fr/thibsylv/sko24mdraft.gif >> >> >> Thibault Sarlat. >> ICQ 16622177. >> homepage http://www.mystara.com.bi >> Join me at: thibsylv=40club-internet.fr >> or at >> clenarius=40hotmail.com >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mischa E Gelman >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 8:59 PM >> Subject: =5BMYSTARA=5D Oenkmarian NPC: Atacal >> >> >> > In response to the request for Oenkmarian NPCs, I'll try to write up = a >> > couple today. Feel free to adapt to your needs. >> > >> > Atacal >> > >> > History: Atacal was born 33 years ago, the son of a prominent Atztant= eotl >> > priest. He seemed to be in line to follow his father in occupation an= d >> > prominence, but a rebellious streak led him to branching out on his o= wn. >> > He begun studying other religions and found the teachings of Karaash = the >> > most insightful and interesting. After several years of covertly stud= ying >> > this religion's theology, he was discovered by his father, who notifi= ed >> > the authorities. Atacal went into hiding, where he has remained for t= he >> > past decade. He has steadily worked his way into greater power, becom= ing >> > Karaash's chief shaman in Oenkmar. >> > >> > Personality: Despite his years on the run, Atacal is not a lone wolf, >> > preferring to work with others as a team. His charming personality (b= y >> > orcish standards) helps make this an easier task and he has developed= a >> > small group of loyal Karaash followers. He looks forward to the day w= hen >> > Atztanteotl and his followers will be toppled from the leadership of >> > Oenkmar and my assist those who help oppose this regime. He does not = want >> > to be killed though, so will act subtly or behind the scenes much of = the >> > time, especially avoiding direct conflict unless absolutely necessary= . He >> > believes in orcih superiority, but recognizes that other races have s= ome >> > value and will just them on an individual basis. >> > >> > Appearance: Atacal is a bit puny by common orc standards, being just = 5'9=22 >> > and 165=23. His short brown hair is well-kempt and his grey skin is k= ept >> > as clean as possible for an orcish outlaw. He rarely wears armor or >> > carries arms, but despite this and his size can strike an imposing >> > presence if so desired. >> > >> > Combat Notes: He is a 6th-level common orc shaman. AC 8; hp 23; at 1;= D by >> > spell or unarmed combat (owns a Karaash sword gri-gri); save C6 or F6= ; ML >> > 10; Al N; S 8, I 12, W 16, D 11, Co 9, Ch 14. Languages:Elvish >> > (Oenkmarian). Non-weapon proficiencies: Honor Karaash 17, City Surviv= al >> > 12, Escape Artist 11, Knowledge =5BOenkmarian politics=5D 12. Spells:= 2 1st, >> > 2 2nd, 1 3rd. Owns no amulets or magic items. >> > >> > >> > - Mischa >> > >> > =5BN=5Dow that OPS has made inroads in television coverage, in Intern= et and >> > print media coverage and even within the game itself, perhaps it's sa= fe to >> > point out that OPS is not, and has never been, a magic bullet. The me= tric >> > has flaws that make it a poor tool for serious, in-depth evaluation. = - Joe >> > Sheehan, BP editor, 7/19/00 >> > >> > ******************************************************************** >> > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp >> > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ >> > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV=40ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM >> > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. >> > >> >> ******************************************************************** >> The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp >> The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ >> To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV=40ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM >> with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. >> > >Haavard R. Faanes (hoc=40nvg.ntnu.no) >http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/=7Ehoc > >=22God created man in his image, and then man returned the >favour.=22 -Voltaire > >******************************************************************** >The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp >The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ >To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV=40ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM >with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:47:51 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: The Stalker Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Subject: Re: Wizards Shopper Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:09:01 Caroletti wrote: >Sometimes I receive messages whose sender is labeled as "Wizards Shopper". >It has happened to Derek Adam, David Knott and Thibault Sarlat. >I am curious of what it is. > Well, it wasn't me! I'm as curious about this peculiar phenomenon as you are, my dear captain ;) - The Stalker Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:05:38 +0200 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Solmyr Subject: Re: Malachie Du Marais Comments: cc: Porphyrogenitus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Colin Wilson wrote: > > Hi there. > > I'm stuck on an issue regarding the (utterly cool) White Wolf. > > According to Gaz:3, Malachie is a werewolf (no surprise) and wants to > create a werewolf principality. Some people at least know of his were- > nature. > > According to the PWA, Malachie hides his werewolf nature and is now Prince > of Morlay-Malinbois. But M-M is known as the Valley of Free Wolves. i.e. a > Werewolf principality. So how can he hide his true nature if everone > knows he runs 'Lycanthropy Central'? > He doesn't deny that there are many werewolves in his principality. He just doesn't publically admit to being one himself (even though everyone "knows" it). And of course, as they say in Glantri: "Prince Malachie, the White Wolf? How ridiculous! All our Princes are perfectly normal people, not some monsters or undead. Any other claim is obviously Alphatian propaganda!" -- ****************** Aleksei Andrievski aka Solmyr, Archmage of the Azure Star solmyr@kolumbus.fi http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Fortress/2198/index.html ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:01:06 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Angelo Bertolli Subject: Re: Ogg.: Re: [MYSTARA] NPC Please Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed You can use XML/XSL for a more data-base like web page. Get the book "XML for Dummies," it is good. Angelo >From: Federico Kaftal >Reply-To: Mystara >To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM >Subject: [MYSTARA] Ogg.: Re: [MYSTARA] NPC Please >Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:33:23 +0000 > >This is one possibility, but I suggest that you also add a tag on >each character and list them also in alphabetical order on a separate list >made only of active links. >Please email me if I didn't make myself clear. >Cheers, > >Federico > >______________ > >Il Wed, 17 January 2001, Caroletti ha scritto: > > > > > > what would be people's suggestions for categorising the NPC page? > > > > > > shawn stanley > > > > 1. By nation, then divide them in three parts: > > 1. AC 1000 > > > > 2. AC 1010 > > > > 3. Latest Almanac > > > > EG: > > > > Thyatis > > AC 1000: Thincol Torion > > AC 1010: Someone else > > AC 1016: Iulius Scaevola > > Glantri > > AC 1000: Etienne > > AC 1010: Etienne > > AC 1016: Etienn > > > > ******************************************************************** > > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > > >AltaVista Free email service > >******************************************************************** >The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp >The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ >To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM >with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:12:23 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Derek Adam Subject: Re: Wizards Shopper In-Reply-To: <3A66DCDD.1C734D23@tin.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Perhaps it is an artifact of the list being on Wizards.com. I just looked and in my webmail preferences my name was empty. (I can't imagine why, but there it is.) Perhaps if your name is empty, Wizards' mailer fills it in with "Wizards Shopper." I just changed my on-line preferences and we'll see: If my name appeared as "Derek Adam" for this message, then my hypothesis is correct ... . -Auld Skald Quoting Caroletti : > Sometimes I receive messages whose sender is labeled as "Wizards > Shopper". > It has happened to Derek Adam, David Knott and Thibault Sarlat. > I am curious of what it is. > > Iulius Sergius Scaevola > Captain of the XXth Cohort > Port Lucinius, Thyatis > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:10:57 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Chris Furneaux Subject: Re: tangor nation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Wizards Shopper wrote: > there is still a strong tangor nation in skothar , > but for some reason they ahve stopped to spread > around. > we must find some good reasons for that to have > happened. I have some suggestions , tell me if you > want to hear more about my humble opinion on this > subject. I don't know much about tangor but am interested. Does tangor have any contact with the western world? I'm of the opinion that to most canon the east does not exist, all the more reason to have terible and wonderous legends about it. Chris. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:13:20 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Chris Furneaux Subject: Re: Magic & War Machine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Depends who made the armour actually, some of > them were very > maneuverable until you started bolting the extra > pieces and the shield in > place. Also what specs it was made to. Later period stuff generally was heavier and certian tounaments had rules that demanded a particular level of armour. I think it was king maximilion's tounamenst in which no one was ever hurt because of his strict rules. Jousting however went out of fassion when some noble got killed. Also, having seen at Royal Armouries a man > quickly stand unaided move > to the mounting block and get ahorse with his left > arm immobilised due to > having the shield bolted on, as was his helm, I feel > that craning wasn't > anywhere near as prevalent as Hollywood makes out. depending on the tounament, but no I just think the cranes where an added bonus. Were they doing jousting? > BTW if your men are aware that they have mages who's > to say the opposition > doesn't have a couple too and it's their spells > which took out a few of the > friendlies. the fact that it came from the direction of your unit of mages who are behind you, when your enemy's in front would be a dead givaway. > Training again plays a part as any troop > which is aware of magic > and has seen it's use in practice is more hardened > to it so less likely to > suffer from loss of morale. However Alphainian troops would start with a lower morale IMO because they can't use magic and so are inferior people. I don't think I would be desperate to defend my country when I'm not treated well (compared to say a soldier of thyatis). > They're just another tool in my box actually. Of > course I know of ways > to take them out but that would be telling wouldn't > it? ;^) Do tell. This is about sagely advice after all. > Most magical units are 3rd level so that's one > magic missile and one > sleep spell per man. So then as long as you sufficently outnumber the mage unit (possibly with halflings because of their unpredictable luck *joke*) you stand a reasonable chance of a sucessful charge, and once your in close combat, its not a problem. Given their 3rd level nature, you could have probally 3 1st level fighters per mage insted, thus outnumbering them. give some of them bows and train them all against magic so they arn't scared easily by it, and throw in that dragon I was talking about as a magic missile absorbor, and bobs your uncle. You arn't garanteed victory but the surposed threat isn't that great no more. > add in the continual darkness, > phantasmal force and web > spells carried by a few rather than an invisibility > spell for personal > defence and that's a large amount of magic, even if > you only have one such > unit on the field. My point is that once they have exhasted their magic they are relitivly useless, and that can go pretty fast. > The troops I'm talking about are the rank and > file low level mages, the > ones in uniforms with shortswords and slings, > apparently just another unit > of skirmishers. I don't think that there can be rank and file mages. The mind of a mage is not suited to conformity and obediance IMO, and they are the ones with the fancy smancy uniforms if they are wearing uniforms... I think we might just have to accept that we have different views of what mages *are* like. > Even if YOUR mages choose to make targets of > themselves, mine have > decided not to! :^P They are not yours, they are there one people and they will decide what they will and not be ordered about like a common soldier. They are above that, theirs is a higher calling (or they're addicted to zzonga) They will do how they see fit (well thats how I see the Alphanians reacting) > So now the elemental is jumping up on down on > the crockery chortling > with glee, after watching the barrels used to bring > the liquid to the battle > areas explode. What barrels? I don't see fire elementals doing damage much by jumping. I always saw them as semi-corpreal, not things that could break things designed only to shatter when being thrown from a catipult. > You mean the staff officer at the far end of the > field well outside > artillery range? A good sniper target then? The guy with a Dispel Magic in mind > specifically to banish > an uncontrolled elemental? What about if it's from a > Staff, Device or > Scroll? No obvious target there. Then again maybe it > was called due to a > druidical Summon Elemental, hence won't need to be > concentrated upon. The stuff I read was not summon specific but in the elementals description in the RC. > > Yes but it is the high powered mage that is a > threat, > > not a measily unit of low level mages. > > > Yeah, sure, you just go on believing that, it'd > make my job so much > easier in any fight we had. ;^P Ok, I will, on the basis that the protection spells of a high level mage and the dammage dishing abilities coupled with awesome flexibility makes him just plain nasty and a much harder to replace cog in a war machine then a unit of 3rd level mages that don't have abillities that are much different from any other troop type. > Ah but there aren't any magic users in my > forces, just magic wielding > SOLDIERS a completely different animal! >:^)~ I'm not sure about the "my"'s you keep useing. I used to think like that, but then I realized that they cannot be relied upon to do you every bidding. Their interests are not your greater good or your greater good for them, but what they think their greater good is and the two are rarely the same. Well clerics and elves are a different animals, and far more useful, Alphaian mages I don't think would make good soldiers, and other countries don't tend to feild them so it ain't a big problem. (I mean where else but Alphatia (maybe glantri, with simmilar probs) do you get enough mages that join the army to make a unit out of?) Chris. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:08:14 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Piquer_Otero?= Subject: Re: tangor nation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit What's East and what's West for the Tangor??? IIRC the Mystara maps, the Tangor areas would be quite close to the "long tip" in the East of Skothar, which, in a globe-like planet, happens to be close to the westernmost coasts of Southern Brun... Also IIRC, the migration maps of the HW set indicate than they migrated by crossing this narrow stripe of ocean and arriving to the Arm of the Immortals, from there their presence in the Savage Coast. Maybe in present these relationships have dwindled, but, according to geography, it feels a bit like RW Alaska; being westernmost and easternmost at the same time offers lots of exchange opportunities. Andr�s ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:11:45 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Martin Mathes Subject: files now available for download Sorry for malfunction on my website. So finally here are my files: www-stud.uni-essen.de/~sl1506/master.htm There you will find information on the Duchy of Tel Akbir, The fighting orders in Karameikos A brief description of amber lizardmen And some magical items, including the nasty Kubitt Assassin Flask. Enjoy it :) Martin ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:31:16 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: thibault sarlat Subject: Re: Wizards Shopper MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i know what happened. when i am not at home i can still check my provider mailbox using a sort of hotmail account which is in reality my own provider account but azccessible from anywhere in the world. Thus , when i reply to a message from the mml using this hotmail-like access ( mainly at work) you get this strange "wizard shopper signature. i think it's a default setting of the mml Thibault Sarlat. ICQ 16622177. homepage http://www.mystara.com.bi Join me at: thibsylv@club-internet.fr or at clenarius@hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Derek Adam To: Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Wizards Shopper > Perhaps it is an artifact of the list being on Wizards.com. I just looked and > in my webmail preferences my name was empty. (I can't imagine why, but there > it is.) Perhaps if your name is empty, Wizards' mailer fills it in > with "Wizards Shopper." > > I just changed my on-line preferences and we'll see: If my name appeared > as "Derek Adam" for this message, then my hypothesis is correct ... . > > -Auld Skald > > Quoting Caroletti : > > > Sometimes I receive messages whose sender is labeled as "Wizards > > Shopper". > > It has happened to Derek Adam, David Knott and Thibault Sarlat. > > I am curious of what it is. > > > > Iulius Sergius Scaevola > > Captain of the XXth Cohort > > Port Lucinius, Thyatis > > > > ******************************************************************** > > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > > > > > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:38:18 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "paul.benfield" Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mike, I have some 3e details for Clerics from my campaign on my site - www.geocities.com/pab02 Click on the 3e Immortals link on the intro page or the Immortals link on the menu. There's more 2e AD&D stuff the 3e D&D as I'm in the process of converting it! Cheers Paul Benfield www.geocities.com/pab02 -----Original Message----- From: Mystara [mailto:MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM]On Behalf Of M Novy Sent: 18 January 2001 04:38 To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Subject: [MYSTARA] Hello fellow Mystarans. It has been along time since I have joined in on the list. I used to about two years ago under the name nurvel but i havent recently. I need some of you to compile a list of favored weapons for the immortals. I play 3e and if you select the domain of war for a cleric you can get bonuses like being able to use you the deity's favorite weapon. Thanks......I just finished reading ac 1015 alamanac and I like what I have read. I have a location that i would like to add to the canon stuff as soon as I get it together. Mike _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 00:15:02 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Martin Mathes Subject: Re: rat immortal?? > Immortal wererat Mrikitat was introduced in PC4 Night Howlers. There has been also some wererat-related happenings in the last net almanac. > Thanks, Mrikitat and the other stuff in PC4 was exactly what i was looking for. I hope my PCs will be of the same opinion :) But i fear they will not ;) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:05:21 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Piquer_Otero?= Subject: Re: Wizards Shopper MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I think that Thibaut is right... and what he has pointed probably means that Wizards is sharing the server and manager for the MML (and probably its other games lists) with the server for its Online Store, as "wizard's shopper" sounds like a (default) profile form for on-line purchases submitted forms... So, there's some kind of economy in the organization of the WotC servers, but, up to date, the list has worked fine, at least for me, so no complaints... I just would get concerned if I used a lot the Online Store at wizards.com... maybe I'm a net-hypocondriac, but that store server elements could appear in a mailing list sounds just a bit... messy for a fine company like wizards. I guess security is great and guaranteed, but those small glitches feel a bit icky. Somebody from Wizards around to dispel these silly worries??? Andr�s ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:39:46 +0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "Francisco V. Navarro" Subject: Re: I hate Elminster MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hail Mystarans! Would you agree of my opinion the pre-WotI uber-mage Emperor Tylion IV (with his 60+ identities) would be a greater legend in Mystara than Elminster in FR? Kit Navarro ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:18:18 -0600 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: M Novy Subject: Re: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Thanks for the help........... I also had a problem today trying to print out part of the almanac 1016. I have successfully printed out the other ones. I think I d/l'ed the zip file from the official MML page. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:22:28 -0600 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: M Novy Subject: Re: Favored weapons Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed HAHAHAHA :) > ><< What you need is Wrath of the Immortals (WotI). Book I lists all the >known > >> > > >Is this book OOP? > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:24:20 -0600 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: M Novy Subject: Re: Malachie Du Marais Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: Colin Wilson >> > >Unfortunatley, I still haven't tracked down a copy of 'Night Howlers' and >so I'm a little short on the necesary info here. Can anyone tell me >whether Glantri in general knows of Malachie's Lycanthropy? I actually have that. :) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:15:36 +0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "Francisco V. Navarro" Subject: Re: Malachie Du Marais MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hail Mystarans! Prince Malachie du Marais is my favorite of the Princes of Glantri (Well... I love Princess Dolores too... love to *hate* her!), and I've read/written about Prince Malachie, his court and his principality for some time. Here are my ideas about his werewolf status. Glantri is a land of intrigue, secrets, lies, and mysteries. In general, each Prince in Glantri has been suspected/rumored to be one thing or another: a vampire, a lich, an Immortal, a werewolf, a cleric, a dragon, a madman, etc. "Night Howlers" states that Prince Malachie in particularly employs/takes advantage of the rumor machine, so of all the Princes, he in particular has a lot of things being said about him by the general public. With all those lies and half-lies flying about, it would be difficult for an average public Glantrian to find that single true rumor that he is a werewolf. Those in the higher echelons of power (i.e. the Pricnes of Glantri), and those more closely involved (i.e. the Sylaire nobles) would of course know the truth. But would they make an effort to "out" him public? No, this would serve no advantage, and would only put them at risk of being the target of his plots. Within Morlay-Malinbois however--where lycanthropes live peacefully with humans, and everone knows who are lycanthropes and who are not--it is quite common knowledge who the Alpha-Wolf is! But even the denizens Morlay-Malinbois are quite discreet about their own lycanthropy--and Malachie's lycanthropy status--to other Glantrians, especially since most outsiders are "lycanthrophobic." I realize that as I write this: being a lycanthrope in Glantri could be like being gay in the RW. There are people in Mystara who say lycanthropy is abnormal or an abomination of nature; these would be the "lycanthrophobes." There are those who say lycanthropes are just people too. ("It's not a lifestyle, it's a life.") Lycanthropes have some form of "were-dar" where they can instinctually sense if a person is a lycanthrope of not. Prince Malachie has made Morlay-Malinbois a mecca for lycanthropes, where they be out and proud and just be themselves. But even then, some people believe one's lycanthropy is not an issue you should discuss in public. As the famous Glantrian thespian and rumored were-fox, Henrique Martin, said in an interview with the Paparazzi Glantri: "What I do on the night of the full moon is a very personal and private matter." Kit Navarro GPD Paparazzi Glantri ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:30:18 -0600 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: M Novy Subject: Re: Music for roleplaying games? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >The Gladiator Soundtrack is excellent! >I only use movie soundtracks in my Mystara campaign. I usually stay away >from Star Wars. I love the movies and the music, but I think it brings >too >strong association to the actual movies to help set the mood. >The Patriot sound track OTOH, also by Williams is highly recommended as >is >the Braveheart one. I only concur my friend. That is like one of the best movies.....I like to play Episode 1. Mike _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:34:03 -0600 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: M Novy Subject: Re: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: "paul.benfield" >Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:38:18 -0000 > Thanks for the help Paul. I am a diehard fan of mystara I just dont have to time to contemplate these things...... Mike _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:36:56 EST Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "Larry E. Lamb" Subject: Re: I hate Elminster MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are you talking about the person that is acting as the head of the magic school of karameikos? ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:41:24 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: David Knott Subject: Re: Tanagorons/Tangor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Michael Diehm > I'm intrigued by what happened to the Tanagorons of Skothar as described in > the Hollow World Set. It seemed to suggest that their civilisation was > wiped out by climatic changes caused by the Great Rain of Fire. Whilst I > agree that a large portion of their land became mountainous/volcanic, Tangor > Bay and other regions would seem very habitable to the people of Tangor. > > I also note from the Hollow World map that Jennites swept through and > presumably conquered the Tangor Bay region and that there were many > Tanagoron migrations. However, I believe that some sort of Tangor peoples > still exist in the region originally labelled Empire of Tangor. Has anyone > developed this possibility (I can't find anything on Tangor), or is there a > consensus that only a few primitive scattered tribes exist in AC1000 ? Dragon #200 mentions some demi-ogres whose human ancestry is clearly Tanagoro, and it is also clear that Yavdlom and the Pearl Islands were colonized by Tanagoro. I would guess that they still survive on the Tangor peninsula, but that their modern culture has less in common with that of the Hollow World Tanagoro than the culture of Sind does with that of Shahjapur. In general, the Immortals seem to have given up on many outer world cultures a bit too easily. In some cases the remnants of the supposedly doomed cultures made a comeback later, while in other cases the removal of a large portion of their population to the Hollow World was the crisis that finished them off. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:14:29 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: David Knott Subject: Re: New Mystara Forum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: shawn stanley > > You can access the Mystara Message Boards through any standard news > browser. You need to set your news server as tank.wizards.com and then > access the RPG.DnD.OtherWorlds.Mystara news group. Thanks for the reminder! Now that I have gotten away from AOL I should be able to read those message boards quite easily off-line via Outlook Express. I will even start posting there soon now that I have figured how to give a false e-mail address in the postings -- sorry, but I would prefer not to make my real e-mail address too readily available. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:22:05 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: David Knott Subject: Re: tangor nation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Furneaux > > I don't know much about tangor but am interested. Does > tangor have any contact with the western world? I'm of > the opinion that to most canon the east does not > exist, all the more reason to have terible and > wonderous legends about it. See Dragon #200. There are two nations on the west coast of the Arm of the Immortals that were colonized by demi-ogres from the Tangor Peninsula. The mentions of the demi-ogres in that article are the extent of "canonical" references to Tangor. Of course, I am very much looking forward to what the Almanac folks plan to do with that area. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:32:24 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: David Knott Subject: Re: War Machine & Sea Machine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Paul George Dooley > > Two points against this: Firstly, wether rightly or wrongly, that's not > how it works in the game, check disadvantages even though that section also > contains the fallacious twaddle about how maneuverable a knight in full > armour is. Any army veteran should be able to comment on that one. As I recall, a suit of field plate armor weighs about as much as the backpack carried by the average infantryman. The more even distribution of weight actually gives the knight a slight advantage in maneuverability over a modern soldier -- and nobody would argue that modern infantrymen are unable to maneuver. The real consideration is whether we are talking about armor designed for warfare or simply for jousting. A soldier in armor designed for warfare had better be able to run and jump, while an early Renaissance dilettante jousting in otherwise safe conditions might get away with wearing armor so heavy that he cannot move around without assistance. > Secondly the inductance in ones body caused by the lightningbolt > flowing through the armour would in effect be like being cooked in a > microwave. If you're mounted then think about the poor horse as your spurs > arc to ground VIA it's sweaty body. The metal provides no protection -- but the non-metallic padding should provide some. But I would agree that the horse is probably in trouble under those conditions -- real world knights would have had no reason to try to deal with that possibility. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:33:59 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: David Knott Subject: Re: Wizards Shopper MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Caroletti > Sometimes I receive messages whose sender is labeled as "Wizards Shopper". > It has happened to Derek Adam, David Knott and Thibault Sarlat. > I am curious of what it is. It happens whenever somebody manages to subscribe to this list (or any other Wizards list, for that matter) without giving a name. There is a command that you can send to the Listserver to correct that problem, but I don't remember what it is -- it is probably some sort of "SET" command that can be found in the response to the "INFO REFCARD" command. BTW -- I am not "Wizards Shopper" now, am I? ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:53:49 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Chris Furneaux Subject: Re: I hate Elminster MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- "Larry E. Lamb" wrote: > Are you talking about the person that is acting as > the head of the magic > school of karameikos? > I think thats the one he means. Wasn't he responsible for the last war with thyatis (although to alphantians it was thyatis asking for it)? Chris. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:01:03 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Chris Furneaux Subject: Re: War Machine & Sea Machine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Any army veteran should be able to comment on that > one. As I recall, > a suit of field plate armor weighs about as much as > the backpack carried > by the average infantryman. The more even > distribution of weight > actually gives the knight a slight advantage in > maneuverability over a > modern soldier -- and nobody would argue that modern > infantrymen > are unable to maneuver. my point exactly, and one that never really occured in the game. > > Secondly the inductance in ones body caused by the > lightningbolt > > flowing through the armour would in effect be like > being cooked in a > > microwave. If you're mounted then think about the > poor horse as your spurs > > arc to ground VIA it's sweaty body. > > The metal provides no protection -- but the > non-metallic padding > should provide some. But I would agree that the > horse is probably > in trouble under those conditions -- real world > knights would have > had no reason to try to deal with that possibility. Being an armour wearing person I can tell you that padding offers little protection from electricity for one simple reason, it gets very hot and swetty in any type of armour, but particually full plate cause it doesn't breath. Also *any* padding makes it a lot hotter. Ther is one exception and that is if there is a leather layer because that *would* insulate and resists water etc. and so will not conduct between the two. I sergest giving quite acurate descriptions of armour if you wanted to use a rule that provides protection. Chris. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:02:48 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Chris Furneaux Subject: Re: Tanagorons/Tangor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > In general, the Immortals seem to have given up on > many outer > world cultures a bit too easily. In some cases the > remnants of > the supposedly doomed cultures made a comeback > later, while > in other cases the removal of a large portion of > their population > to the Hollow World was the crisis that finished > them off. I don't think they gave up on them, just wanted to preserve them at their *height* before any drastic changes and thats why the hollow world has it's static state of being. Chris. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:51:18 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "G.P. Agosta" Subject: Re: I hate Elminster MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Francisco V. Navarro wrote: > Hail Mystarans! > > Would you agree of my opinion the pre-WotI uber-mage Emperor Tylion IV (with > his 60+ identities) would be a greater legend in Mystara than Elminster in > FR? He was essentially ousted for incompetence... not a good start to become a legend ;) -- Giampaolo Agosta agathokles@libero.it agosta@fusberta.elet.polimi.it http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 19:16:53 +1000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Michael Diehm Subject: List of Artifacts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_282d_496_77b3" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_282d_496_77b3 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hopefully attached (I'm not much of a computer guru) is a list of known artifacts that I compiled from published materials and the net. Some of the locations I chose myself, so don't take these as gospel. I thought this list might help illustrate just how many artifacts there are on Mystara (I know more are being added regularly on the net). Are there too many for one world ? 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Elminster In-Reply-To: <000501c081bd$790756a0$8bd817d2@fanavarro> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Francisco V. Navarro wrote: > Hail Mystarans! > > Would you agree of my opinion the pre-WotI uber-mage Emperor Tylion IV (with > his 60+ identities) would be a greater legend in Mystara than Elminster in > FR? Tylion's "problem" is those 60+ identities. While several of the identities are quite famous, Terari, among them, the fact that noone knows that its actually the same guy makes him less famous, which is ofcourse, exactly what Tylion wants. H�vard Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc "God created man in his image, and then man returned the favour." -Voltaire ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:33:48 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard?= Subject: Re: I hate Elminster In-Reply-To: <20010119065349.15496.qmail@web1405.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Chris Furneaux wrote: > --- "Larry E. Lamb" wrote: > > Are you talking about the person that is acting as > > the head of the magic > > school of karameikos? > > > I think thats the one he means. Wasn't he responsible > for the last war with thyatis (although to alphantians > it was thyatis asking for it)? This is interesting. Is it not likely that he would have some magical influence over King Stefan and that that influence may be the reason for many of Stefans actions toward Thyatis during the last decades? H�vard Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc "God created man in his image, and then man returned the favour." -Voltaire ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:37:07 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Paul George Dooley Subject: Re: War Machine & Sea Machine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The real consideration is whether we are talking about armor designed > for warfare or simply for jousting. A soldier in armor designed for > warfare had better be able to run and jump, while an early Renaissance > dilettante jousting in otherwise safe conditions might get away with > wearing armor so heavy that he cannot move around without > assistance. > This is the basic problem with what's written.It claims to be associated with several very different armours, then says actually it's more like another type which covers a wide range in it's own right. Leaving out the fact that we have Dwarves, magic and countless other things to come up with superior lightweight alloys than were historically available making the entire thing lighter and more maneuverable. > > The metal provides no protection -- but the non-metallic padding > should provide some. You mean the stuff that quickly absorbs the sweat due to wearing all that armour so that there's now a salty liquid connection between you and the electricity? >;^)~ Seriously though, if you start giving bonuses for padding what about for a full suit of furs and leather? Just how much needs to be covered to what thickness to gain such a bonus etc. etc. etc? Too much work for too little gain IMO so using Occam's Razor on it I say that you don't get any. Hamlet I, v, 166 Words to live by? Paul ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:36:03 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard?= Subject: Re: url error!! sorry (maps available) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Wizards Shopper wrote: > i didn't know that our good friend james have made something on Borea. > I am very interested to see his deeds.if they are just as good as his > maps of ochalea then i'll be more than satisfied. Actually, I was thinking about the Midlands Gazetteer which covers the area south of Borea. As you probably know, it was posted on this list some time last fall. Sorry about any confusion I may have caused :P H�vard Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc "God created man in his image, and then man returned the favour." -Voltaire ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:44:26 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard?= Subject: Re: List of Artifacts In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Michael Diehm wrote: > Hopefully attached (I'm not much of a computer guru) is a list of known > artifacts that I compiled from published materials and the net. Some of the > locations I chose myself, so don't take these as gospel. I thought this > list might help illustrate just how many artifacts there are on Mystara (I > know more are being added regularly on the net). Are there too many for one > world ? Hi, General policy is that you dont send attachments to this list. Also, I didnt recognize the format of your attachment. Could you please resend it as part of the mail, or if it includes images, post it on a website and send us an URL? H�vard Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc "God created man in his image, and then man returned the favour." -Voltaire ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 20:03:21 +1000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Michael Diehm Subject: Thousand Wizards Bombard Glantri Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed In the Wrath of the Immortals adventure the Immortal's Fury, it states that the thousand wizards of Alphatia teleport to the skies of Glantri and unleash destructive spells upon the capital. Now here is my brain-teaser: How can they deliberately teleport into mid-air ? Michael Diehm _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:16:05 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard?= Subject: Re: files now available for download In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Martin Mathes wrote: > Sorry for malfunction on my website. > > So finally here are my files: > > www-stud.uni-essen.de/~sl1506/master.htm Some really cool stuff here Martin, I really liked the Amber Lizardmen. And the maps were awsome too. You should post more of your stuff on the MML :) H�vard Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc "God created man in his image, and then man returned the favour." -Voltaire ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:34:08 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard?= Subject: Re: Thousand Wizards Bombard Glantri In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Michael Diehm wrote: > In the Wrath of the Immortals adventure the Immortal's Fury, it states that > the thousand wizards of Alphatia teleport to the skies of Glantri and > unleash destructive spells upon the capital. > > Now here is my brain-teaser: How can they deliberately teleport into mid-air > ? Casting Fly or Levitation spells on themselves first, this wouldnt be much of a problem would it? H�vard Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc "God created man in his image, and then man returned the favour." -Voltaire ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:05:22 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Piquer_Otero?= Subject: Re: Thousand Wizards Bombard Glantri MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It's really a major break of spell rules; I just have two ideas about it: 1. they used Wish spells instead of teleport (that's a fair usage of a wish to reproduce a lower leve spell with a minor improvement, so no penalties for being granted) 2. given that Alphatia's traditional magic comes from the Worshippes of Air, I could see that master Alphatian wizards had some "air quirks and advantages" to their spells, like being able to teleport in mid-air. So, it's not too hard to see it happen with Mystaran magic. Andr�s ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:10:51 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: thibault sarlat Subject: Re: url error!! sorry (maps available) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit well i don't remember this at all was it on the MML or on the MMB? if someone has them i'll be happy to get them privetly to make an interactive map one more time... Thibault Sarlat. ICQ 16622177. homepage http://www.mystara.com.bi Join me at: thibsylv@club-internet.fr or at clenarius@hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: H�vard To: Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] url error!! sorry (maps available) > On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Wizards Shopper wrote: > > > i didn't know that our good friend james have made something on Borea. > > I am very interested to see his deeds.if they are just as good as his > > maps of ochalea then i'll be more than satisfied. > > Actually, I was thinking about the Midlands Gazetteer which covers the > area south of Borea. As you probably know, it was posted on this list some > time last fall. > > Sorry about any confusion I may have caused :P > > H�vard > > > Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) > http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc > > "God created man in his image, and then man returned the > favour." -Voltaire > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:11:25 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: thibault sarlat Subject: Re: files now available for download MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i can't access to those files... is the url correct? Thibault Sarlat. ICQ 16622177. homepage http://www.mystara.com.bi Join me at: thibsylv@club-internet.fr or at clenarius@hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: H�vard To: Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] files now available for download > On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Martin Mathes wrote: > > > Sorry for malfunction on my website. > > > > So finally here are my files: > > > > www-stud.uni-essen.de/~sl1506/master.htm > > Some really cool stuff here Martin, > I really liked the Amber Lizardmen. And the maps were awsome too. You > should post more of your stuff on the MML :) > > H�vard > > > Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) > http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc > > "God created man in his image, and then man returned the > favour." -Voltaire > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 23:08:32 +1000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Michael Diehm Subject: Re: Attachment Blunder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Apologies for the unreadable and "illegal" attachment (28k?). I'm afraid I don't how to convert my word documents into the e-mails. Can anyone help ? Michael Diehm _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:28:33 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Martin Mathes Subject: Re: files now available for download thibault sarlat said: > i can\'t access to those files... is the url correct? > > > > > www-stud.uni-essen.de/~sl1506/master.htm Yes, the url is correct, but the university server was down for regular maintenance. It is working now. Martin PS: Those computer geeks are always tinkering around with the big machines . . . sometime breaking them, so it is a kind of regular scheme. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:35:27 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Phillip Jones Subject: Re: Attachment Blunder MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Apologies for the unreadable and "illegal" attachment (28k?). I'm afraid I > don't how to convert my word documents into the e-mails. Can anyone help ? > > Michael Diehm How about simply coping the text in the word document and psting it into an e-mail. That will work brilliantly for the MML. Phil (aka Alexander Korrigan, humble student of the Great School of Magic) "I'm not evil. Just practical." ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:39:36 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard?= Subject: Re: url error!! sorry (maps available) In-Reply-To: <001f01c08210$dea951e0$d58d24c3@duke> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, thibault sarlat wrote: > well i don't remember this at all > was it on the MML or on the MMB? > if someone has them i'll be happy to get them privetly to make an > interactive map one more time... The MML. It was called the Midlands gazetteer IIRC. I dont neccesarily need an interractive map, but that gazetteer has different cities and different countries and it would have been useful to have those on a map aswell :) I'll see if I have them somewhere. H�vard Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc "God created man in his image, and then man returned the favour." -Voltaire ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:41:31 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "G.P. Agosta" Subject: Re: Attachment Blunder MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael Diehm wrote: > Apologies for the unreadable and "illegal" attachment (28k?). I'm afraid I > don't how to convert my word documents into the e-mails. Can anyone help ? Save as text, then cut & paste into a new mail. -- Giampaolo Agosta agathokles@libero.it agosta@fusberta.elet.polimi.it http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:53:38 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Geoff Gander Subject: Re: List of Artifacts >Hopefully attached (I'm not much of a computer guru) is a list of known >artifacts that I compiled from published materials and the net. Normally, it's not a good idea to send attachments over the MML - a lot of people don't have email software which can read them, and the sheer bulk (in terms of file size) can really overload inboxes. If you want to share the info (which sounds very cool btw), I'd suggest you incorporate the text into the body of the message (if possible), or email it privately to those who want it. Geoff -- Geoff Gander, BA 97 Cartographer/Game Designer/Government Peon Carnifex Loremaster au998@freenet.carleton.ca : www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Realm/2091 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:45:08 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Paul George Dooley Subject: Re: Magic & War Machine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > depending on the tounament, but no I just think the > cranes where an added bonus. Were they doing jousting? > Unfortunately not that day, I did see the jousting on another occasion though. Several of the displays, especially the speed of guys in platemail using poleaxes, were stunning though. > > the fact that it came from the direction of your unit > of mages who are behind you, when your enemy's in > front would be a dead givaway. > Erm. How can you tell? As mentioned earlier I'm casting an OD&D sleep spell in almost all cases 80 yards in front of my self and probably 40 yards in front of allied troops. Being OD&D none of the wild gesticulating and flinging of dust of AD&D and no visible effects except those affected hitting the dirt. If we go into the whole casting methodology, any unit fielded would have been taught the minimum vocalisation and gesture version of the spell, Showboating would be something done purely as a personal whim when NOT on duty. > > However Alphainian troops would start with a lower > morale IMO because they can't use magic and so are > inferior people. I don't think I would be desperate to > defend my country when I'm not treated well (compared > to say a soldier of thyatis). > Opinions differ but I do take your point. However since even a mage in the military can be commanded by a sergeant maybe a lot less than you seem to think. > Do tell. This is about sagely advice after all. > Sorry I'm aware that someone I know lurks so don't want to ruin their battlefield surprises! > > Most magical units are 3rd level so that's one > > magic missile and one > > sleep spell per man. > > So then as long as you sufficently outnumber the mage > unit (possibly with halflings because of their > unpredictable luck *joke*) you stand a reasonable > chance of a sucessful charge, and once your in close > combat, its not a problem. Given their 3rd level > nature, you could have probally 3 1st level fighters > per mage insted, thus outnumbering them. give some of > them bows and train them all against magic so they > arn't scared easily by it, and throw in that dragon I > was talking about as a magic missile absorbor, and > bobs your uncle. You arn't garanteed victory but the > surposed threat isn't that great no more. > So you send these guys you've trained so much after what may possibly be my mage unit or could be a skirmish unit instead. Seems that your reacting to me rather than acting, bad move! :^P > > My point is that once they have exhasted their magic > they are relitivly useless, and that can go pretty > fast. > That's part of the whole thing. Knowing When & Where & How to use such a unit as part of an integrated strategy > I don't think that there can be rank and file mages. > The mind of a mage is not suited to conformity and > obediance IMO, and they are the ones with the fancy > smancy uniforms if they are wearing uniforms... > I think we might just have to accept that we have > different views of what mages *are* like. > Opinion again. Since in Alphatias case the majority of the mages in the army would be the offspring of those who aren't nobility this is the only place for them to gain such knowledge. Thyatian legionnaires do their duty for the promise of a bit of land at the end of their term of service, Ylari have soldierly orders of mages which never made it through to the PWA but in all probability would be pretty like their warrior brothers (except for the official "I am a mage don't **** with me uniform of course! :^P), Glantrians have enough military mages that in AD&D there is a specific kit for them. Alphatians would do it to become one of the ruling classes. > They are not yours, they are there one people and they > will decide what they will and not be ordered about > like a common soldier. They are above that, theirs is > a higher calling (or they're addicted to zzonga) They > will do how they see fit (well thats how I see the > Alphanians reacting) At best they'll be gentry so just get an officer who's nobility to crucify a couple for disobeying orders. Then you separate them into the group of those who will follow orders and those who won't. Apply natural selection over 2000 years of battling in which many more of those who follow orders survive and you now have units of mages who DO follow orders. > > What barrels? I don't see fire elementals doing damage > much by jumping. I always saw them as semi-corpreal, > not things that could break things designed only to > shatter when being thrown from a catipult. > Usually for ease of transport all the combustibles would be in barrels only being decanted into their breakable pottery jars right before battle. If the combustibles are not totally sealed then the sheer presence of the elemental will detonate them if they are then,Place combustible in crockery, place crockery in elemental. wait for explosion. side effect is that since the elemental is in close proximity to the artillery that's burned too. > A good sniper target then? > Which one of him? Especially since the real one is invisible too! > The stuff I read was not summon specific but in the > elementals description in the RC. > NP, but you get the point about there being several ways to achieve the same objective much less conspicuously? > Ok, I will, on the basis that the protection spells of > a high level mage and the dammage dishing abilities > coupled with awesome flexibility makes him just plain > nasty and a much harder to replace cog in a war > machine then a unit of 3rd level mages that don't have > abillities that are much different from any other > troop type. > I wasn't disagreeing with you regarding high level mages, just your ignorance of the usage of a unit of low level mages. One piece of advice though, the battle doesn't begin once you take to the field, that's the endgame! Just how are you using your mages between times? > I'm not sure about the "my"'s you keep useing. I used > to think like that, but then I realized that they > cannot be relied upon to do you every bidding. Their > interests are not your greater good or your greater > good for them, but what they think their greater good > is and the two are rarely the same. > When not folowing orders will lead to loss of hands and/or tongue, and hence magical ability, at the least I'm sure that very few will be stepping out of line. This actually improves the morale of other troops since they see that whilst military mages may get better treated they also get severely punished. > Well clerics and elves are a different animals, and > far more useful, Alphaian mages I don't think would > make good soldiers, and other countries don't tend to > feild them so it ain't a big problem. (I mean where > else but Alphatia (maybe glantri, with simmilar probs) > do you get enough mages that join the army to make a > unit out of?) > Clerics who can't fight today as it's a holy day, Treehugging elves who are to busy picking daisies to actually do there job, more useful than well trained magic wielding soldiers! pfah! Don't make me laugh! >;^)~ Actually if you have such troops fielding them too is mandatory. Alphatian and Glantrian Noble mages don't make good troops, that's why they're made officers. :^P Those kids with magical ability and no funding are the troops, to paraphrase Heinlein "Service guarantees magehood!". Other nations would be Ylarum as mentioned above, and a properly thought out Thyatis which also had cavalry, artillery, missile troops, and it's documented airborne units. IIRC something along these lines has already been done by a listmember. Hamlet I, v, 166 Words to live by? Paul ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:50:07 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "Jenni A. M. Merrifield" Subject: Re: List of Artifacts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Diehm" > Hopefully attached (I'm not much of a computer guru) is a list of known > artifacts that I compiled from published materials and the net. Some of the > locations I chose myself, so don't take these as gospel. I thought this > list might help illustrate just how many artifacts there are on Mystara (I > know more are being added regularly on the net). Are there too many for one > world ? For the list's edification - here's the content of Michaels Word document, copied into text. (For anyone who actually received the attachement, like myself, just save it and change the extention to "doc" and you can open it in Word 2000. Maybe even Word 97, but someone would have to try) ---- ARTIFACT LOCATIONS Armet by Wayland Darokin's Orclands Claw of Mighty Simurgh Barimoor Comb of the Korigans Alfheim Diamond Orb of Tyche Milenian Ruins Fiery Bird of Masauwu Atruaghin lands Girdle of Armida Alphatia Humbaba's Glaring Eye Enshu Hymir's Steaming Cauldron Frosthaven Ivory Plume of Maat Azemur Ortnit's Lance of Doom Great Northway Lands Pileus Milenian Ruins Rainbow Scarf of Sinbad Emirates Shard of Sakkrad Tarylon, Norwold Seat of Power Glantri Eye of Traldar Dymrak Forest Nucleus of the Spheres Glantri Sorona Heldannic Territories Girdle of de'Rah Norwold Peaceful Periapt of Pax Aran, Upper Thothia Sunstone of Rathanos Aurora R Valley, Thothia Prism of Ramenhotep Upper Thothia Elvenstar Wendar Blackstick Shrine of Enoreth, Great Forest of Geoffron Throne of Kron Kron Yav's Time Machine Dhiki Namazzi Skarda's Mirror Karameikos Heartstone Ghyr Vanya's Wings Freiburg Barrier Mask Saragon Ebon Eye Dark Jungle The Black Vessel Almarron Altar of the Stars N'Djatwaland Bead of Oblivion Darokin Cap of Mala Kingdom of Grimm Plume of Fidias Tome of Gambia Carpet of Millicent Illiric's Nose Hand of Kindness Vulcania Censer of the Mists Mositius Kereenyaga Ulimwengu Scorbane (Int Sword) Shining Isle Crystal Feather of Nyggg (W of I) Crown of Ka (W o I) Serpent Sceptre (W o I) Throne of the Malformed King (W o I) Finder (Int Sword) Chateau d'Ambreville (Land of Mists, Room 8) Sword of Ahmed Khel Hule Sword of Canopa Magden, Hule Sword of Lopra Suthus Sword of Falcon Kron Wheel of Infinite Travel Risilvar Redface (Int Sword) Thunderdelve Mt Hammer of Vitroin Thunderdelve Mt Frond of Life Airandal Barimoor's Soul Daggers Empire of Barimoor Celestial Planisphere Makistan Bead of Oblivion Surra-Man-Raa Lizardskin Bed Kirkuk Pearl of Destruction Ierendi City Tree of Life (Original) Sylvan Realm Egg of the Phoenix Alfheim Town Suit of Silver Hardanger Kobolds Selbrinor's Wavestone Fletcher Reef, Shire Coast Pearl of Power Seahome The Carven Oak Near Verdun Thar's Sword Orcus Rex Crown of Corruption Desert of Lost Souls Tribunus Stone City of Thimhallan Star of Vanya Vanya's Rest Polymer Helm Crown of Thyatian Emperors Century Hills Throne of Hosadus Jandak The Great Saampo Great Citadel of Kaarja Sword of Morphos Blight Swamp ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:21:26 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Dragovon Subject: Re: List of Artifacts In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed All those artifacts with cool names. Without getting out all my books to look, I'm curious. Do we know what some/all/most of them do? If not how's about we make them? Die dulci fruere Abeo John E. Raymond ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 20:19:34 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: Wizards Shopper MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > BTW -- I am not "Wizards Shopper" now, am I? No ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 20:21:44 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: I hate Elminster and Stefan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > This is interesting. > Is it not likely that he would have some magical influence over King > Stefan and that that influence may be the reason for many of Stefans > actions toward Thyatis during the last decades? > > H�vard Now, Alphatians may be evil subtle and manipulative, but this doesn't justify a man like Stefan, who remains essentially a traitor. And this from an unbiased point of view. 8-) Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 20:27:18 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: tangor nation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Of course, I am very much looking forward to what the Almanac > folks plan to do with that area. I have a lot of ideas for the area, but I left the Almanac team recently. All the ideas on which the Tangor description was written were mine...and I have more, but I will work on them as I did on Nentsun. Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 20:48:50 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Agathokles Subject: Re: List of Artifacts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [snipped list] Some more Savage Coast artifacts: The Manniquin of Ixion divided into many pieces (known parts are in Saragon) The Howling Dragon Cimarron The Thundering Dragon Cimarron -- Giampaolo Agosta agathokles@libero.it agosta@fusberta.elet.polimi.it http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles/index.htm ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:41:35 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Chris Furneaux Subject: Re: I hate Elminster & Stefan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > This is interesting. > Is it not likely that he would have some magical > influence over King > Stefan and that that influence may be the reason for > many of Stefans > actions toward Thyatis during the last decades? Sagely advice is often heeded and givens stefans existing delema it may have helped push him over the line... [As much as I like thyatis if I was him I would have jumped ship too.] Could make the plot event thicker and more interesting for things during WotI. But was Tylion present in karameikos during the events of WotI (and if not what was he doing?) ? Chris :-) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:31:11 EST Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "Larry E. Lamb" Subject: Re: I hate Elminster MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I dont know... ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:08:04 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Chris Furneaux Subject: Re: Magic & War Machine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Unfortunately not that day, I did see the > jousting on another occasion > though. Several of the displays, especially the > speed of guys in platemail > using poleaxes, were stunning though. Oh, to use a poleaxe! They kick ass if you can use them right. Glory to the footsoldiers in full plate. > Erm. How can you tell? As mentioned earlier I'm > casting an OD&D sleep > spell in almost all cases 80 yards in front of my > self and probably 40 yards > in front of allied troops. Being OD&D none of the > wild gesticulating and > flinging of dust of AD&D and no visible effects > except those affected > hitting the dirt. If we go into the whole casting > methodology, any unit > fielded would have been taught the minimum > vocalisation and gesture version > of the spell, Showboating would be something done > purely as a personal whim > when NOT on duty. I was thinking more of fireballs and lightning bolts flying overhead and ocationally being "redirected" by those lovely mages on the other side (thats the rules I would use at least) > Opinions differ but I do take your point. > However since even a mage in > the military can be commanded by a sergeant maybe a > lot less than you seem > to think. maybe... > > Do tell. This is about sagely advice after all. > > > Sorry I'm aware that someone I know lurks so > don't want to ruin their > battlefield surprises! Send it to me offline and I promise I will keep it quiet. I'm working up some rules and situations that such thoughts could be useful to. > So you send these guys you've trained so much > after what may possibly be > my mage unit or could be a skirmish unit instead. > Seems that your reacting > to me rather than acting, bad move! :^P I think it would be obvious or at least decernable, and so our opinions will always differ on this. > > My point is that once they have exhasted their > magic > > they are relitivly useless, and that can go pretty > > fast. > > > That's part of the whole thing. Knowing When & > Where & How to use such a > unit as part of an integrated strategy And once again proving that they are NOT the almighty key to winning a battle, just a cog that the machine can be designed to work without. If you make all the other cogs better you can compensate for the removal of this one. > Opinion again. Since in Alphatias case the > majority of the mages in the > army would be the offspring of those who aren't > nobility this is the only > place for them to gain such knowledge. this is arguable. > At best they'll be gentry so just get an officer > who's nobility to > crucify a couple for disobeying orders. IIRC from DotE all mages in alphatia are arictocracy. Then you > separate them into the > group of those who will follow orders and those who > won't. Apply natural > selection over 2000 years of battling in which many > more of those who follow > orders survive and you now have units of mages who > DO follow orders. for common troops yes, but for mages I think that is a whole different barrel of fish, IMO. > Usually for ease of transport all the > combustibles would be in barrels > only being decanted into their breakable pottery > jars right before battle. > If the combustibles are not totally sealed then > the sheer presence of > the > elemental will detonate them if they are then,Place > combustible in crockery, > place crockery in elemental. wait for explosion. well ligistics of what works is really up to the DM and my ruling would be no go, yours clearly differs. > > A good sniper target then? > > > Which one of him? Especially since the real one > is invisible too! which of course would have been cast on him by another mage, and they rely on the fact that the sniper cannot detect invisible, but to be safe there's a bunch of invisible guys and a bunch of snipers.... come on it's a battle, these things are just stuff people try and often make little difference IMO. To me it is the tactics and how you commit your large bodies of troops and where. Also it is the higher level spells once again that cause the strife not the unit of mages. > > The stuff I read was not summon specific but in > the > > elementals description in the RC. > > > NP, but you get the point about there being > several ways to achieve the > same objective much less conspicuously? The Elemental still has to be controled was my point, according to their description, not the means of summoning. > I wasn't disagreeing with you regarding high > level mages, just your > ignorance of the usage of a unit of low level mages. > One piece of advice > though, the battle doesn't begin once you take to > the field, that's the > endgame! Just how are you using your mages between > times? an advantage that is not the be all and end all. King Darius lost to Alexander the great because he believed in his chariots too much. don't trust in one thing that the other side doesn't have because it don't work like that, you have to co-ordinate it all, and the person who does it better wins. Not just I'll kick your ass with my mages. IMO mages are an unreliable weapon. Good soldiers are not. > When not folowing orders will lead to loss of > hands and/or tongue, and > hence magical ability, at the least I'm sure that > very few will be stepping > out of line. This actually improves the morale of > other troops since they > see that whilst military mages may get better > treated they also get severely > punished. interesting point and could work well, or really badly depending on exact circumstances. Chris. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 22:42:21 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Angelo Bertolli Subject: Languages Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed What are the names of the different languages in Mystara? The disadvantage of playing basic D&D is they don't give you such information in the rulebooks. Angelo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 01:22:23 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Martin Mathes Hi, I hope that the server of the university will work fine this weekend. Just knock on wood :) OK, there is some more stuff at: www-stud.uni-essen.de/~sl1506/master.htm Get the files on the Flying Pony Express between Darokin City and Shireton. Comments and ideas are wellcome. Martin ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:11:22 +0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "Francisco V. Navarro" Subject: Re: Languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > What are the names of the different languages in Mystara? The disadvantage > of playing basic D&D is they don't give you such information in the > rulebooks. Hail Mystarans! Here's an updated list from an original file I submitted previously of the Glantrian tongues. The Principalities of Glantri has the most languages and dialects due to its diverse culture. Our working list of languages/dialects are as follows: Thyatian. There are three dialects of Thyatian spoken in Glantri, each roughly representative of the three tribes of Thyatis. These are the Glantrian dialect (RW Latin), Caurenzan dialect (RW Italian), and the Aalbanese dialect (RW German). Thyatian (Glantrian dialect) is basically Thyatian Common (known throughout the Known World in Brun), but with many flowery expressions, terms about magic, sorcercy, politics, and intrigue, and many new words taken from the other dialects of Glantri. Thyatian (Caurenzan dialect) is derived from the Kerendan dialect of Thyatian, partially influenced by Darokin. It is spoken in the southern (Caurenzan) territories of Glantri and some parts of northern Darokin. Thyatian (Aalbanese dialect) is derived from the Hattian dialect of Thyatian, but heavily mixed with Alphatian. It ias also influenced by Flaemish. It is spoken in the northwesetrn (Aalbanese) territories, where these three ethnic groups have mixed. Alphatian. There are two Glantrian tongues of Alphatian origin: the Blackhill dialect of Alphatian and Flaemish. Blackhill Alphatian is close to Alphatian Common, but influenced by the local dialects of Glantri. It is spoken in the southeastern (Blackhill Alphatian) territories, and is probably the least popular or accepted among the foreign Glantrian languages. The Flaemish language was once considered an Alphtian dialect, but is more accurately a language of its own. Its origins are from the ancient Cypri language. In Old Alphatia, the Cypri language was influenced by the Alphatian tongue, but since the millennia-long exodus of the Flaems to the Highlands of Mystara, the Flaemish toungue has since gone through much purging of its Alphatian influence. Elvish. There are two main dialects of Elvish in Glantri: the Erewan/Alfheim dialect and the Belcadizan dialect. The Erewan dialect is not so removed from its original dialect from Alfheim. With the recent influx of Alfheim refugees, the Erewan dialect may return to its Alfheim form. Belcadizan, though still recognizable as Elvish, is so far removed from other derivatives of Elvish. It is said to have much similarities with, and probably influence from, the languages in the Savage Baronies. The Boldavian dialect of Traladaran (RW Hungarian) originated from the Traladaran tongue of Karameikos. It is a sombre and depressing dialect spoken in the gloomy lands of Boldavia in northeast Glantri. The Krondaharan dialect of Ethengarian (RW Turkish) is derived from the language of the Ethengar barbarians. it is much more refined and sophisticated than its counterpart in the Steppes, and is also heavy in mystical and magical terms. There are several humanoid languages spoken in New Kolland also: (in order of prominence) kobold, orcish, goblin, hobgoblin, ogrish, gnollish, and troll. Laterran Languages. Three languages originate from Laterre in the Dimension of Myth. Sylaire (RW French) is spoken in western Glantri, in the territories of Nouvelle Averoigne and Morlay-Malinbois. Kaelic (RW Scottish) is a minor dialect of Fensland in Laterre, but has grown into a full language in Klantyre. Fenswick (RW British) is derived from the Fen language of Fensland, but has since degenerated into a minor tongue in Mystara. (Some scholars even considered it a dialect of Kaelic.) It is not spoken outside the Fenswick territories and its written form is only known by Fenswick aristocrats. Other languages spoken in Glantri are as follows: Common Thyatian, referred to as "Imperial Thyatian" Common Alphatian, referred to as "Imperial Alphatian" Darokinian Elvish (Shadow elf dialect) Wendar Sindhi Kit Navarro GPD ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 10:17:10 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Searching for someone who mailed me personally MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, fellow friends! One of you mailed me personally regarding the Tanagoro/Tangor lands, but I accidentally deleted his mail, and I don't remember who it was (possibly mr. Diehm?). Could he mail me again? Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 16:09:18 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Angelo Bertolli Subject: Re: Languages Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Thanks for the info on Glantri languages. Where could I find info on languages from other areas? Angelo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 10:45:08 -0600 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: M Novy Subject: .3E Mystaran Elves Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Should there natural ability with magic equate to them being Wizards or Sorcerers by nature? Make you go.....hmmmm _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 18:54:01 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Piquer_Otero?= Subject: Re: .3E Mystaran Elves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm not too much into 3E, but i'll give a try: 1) As per GAZ5, Elves can pick up magic from humans (following the Way of the Adventurer, and getting limited to Level 5 spell ability, but with free choice of spells) 2) or follow the Way of the Tree, studying by the Treekeepers of their clans: more narrow spell selection, but up to level 9 spell ability. Any 3E adaption should combine those two facts; I would make "standard adventuring elves" Wizards: they study in the human way, they just have a knack for it cuz of their nature (as seen in their Preferred Class); and I would make Way of the Tree Elves into either Sorcerers or multiclass Druid-Sorcerer, OR, I would keep them as sorcerer but I would make a new spell list for them, taking away those "unknown spells" according to GAZ5 and putting in new spells from the Druid list. just 2 cents... Andr�s ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 19:30:53 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: What's your Favourite Nation? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, I am here again. Give a vote if you haven't !!! VOTES: 91 Alfheim: 6 Alphatia: 8 Bellayne: 1 Broken Lands: 1 Cynidicea: 1 Darokin: 6,5 Dunwick: 1 Ethengar: 3 Five Shires: 2 Glantri: 12,5 (Second) Heldann: 1 Hule: 2 Ierendi: 1 Karameikos: 14,5 (First) Minrothad: 1 Nithia: 1 Northern Reaches: 2,5 Norwold: 4,5 Rockhome: 3 Serraine: 1,5 Thyatis: 10 (Third) Shadow Elves: 1,5 Wendar: 1,5 Yavdlom: 1 Ylaruam: 4 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 21:03:33 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Agathokles Subject: Re: Languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Angelo Bertolli wrote: > > Thanks for the info on Glantri languages. Where could I find info on > languages from other areas? I made this table for my campaign, so it includes some non canon languages, and some non canon interpretation of canon languages (ex., I consider Belcadizan to be a dialect of the human language of the Savage Coast, and not a dialect of elvish). As for RW counterparts, "Old Tongues" the most tricky. I'm not familiar with all of the RW languages involved, so I'll give only some examples. Prehistoric Ancient Languages Old Tongues Modern Modern Dialects --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neathar-+--->Antalian---+----->Old-Thyatian->Thyatian-+ | | +---->Glantrian | | +---->Slag | | | +----->Old-Kerendan->Kerendan-+ | | +---->Caurenzan | | | +----->Ispan---+---->Espa--+ | | | +------->Belcadizan | | +---->Verdan | | | +----->NeoAntalian+->Hattian--+ | | | +---->Aalbanese | | | +---->Heldannic | | +->Heldanner-+ | | | +--->Vestlander | | | +--->Ostlander | | | +--->Soderfjorder | | | +--->Oceansender | | +->Eusdrian | | | +----->Dunaelic-+--->Dunael | +--->Ranax | +--->Thratian | +--->Proto-Jennite---->Old-Jennite-->Jennite --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Laterran---->Latin&Germanic-+->French------->Sylaire----+ Indoeuropean | +--->Renardois | +->Old-English-->Anglais-------->Fenswick +---->Laterran Gaelic-->Scot. Gaelic->Kaelic --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nithian------>Traldar----+---->OldTraladaran->Traladaran-+ & | +->Boldavian Antalian | +->Slagich | +->Olgarian +---->Daro Dialects->Daro--+ | +------>Shire Daro | +------>Ierendian +---->Milenian------>Modern Milenian RW Equivalences: Neathar, Antalian: ipothetic indoeuropean tongue. Old Thyatian: Cato Maior's Latin Thyatian Common: Cicero's Latin Glantrian: Early Empire spoken Latin Old Kerendan: Late Middle-Age Italian (Dante's). Kerendan: Modern Italian (or Petrarca's Italian, more fittingly). Caurenzan: like Kerendan, but with heavy Tuscanian accent (think Benigni's) Traldar: Homeric Greek Milenian: Various Greek dialects of the classic age Modern Milenian: Hellenistic Koine -- Giampaolo Agosta agathokles@libero.it agosta@fusberta.elet.polimi.it http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles/index.htm ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 16:04:00 -0600 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: M Novy Subject: Re: .3E Mystaran Elves Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed This sounds about right.....I actually dont really like the 3e sorcerers. When you play one you are EXTREMELY limiting your magical abilities......Thanks Mike >From: Andr�s Piquer Otero >Reply-To: Mystara >To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM >Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] .3E Mystaran Elves >Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 18:54:01 +0100 > >I'm not too much into 3E, but i'll give a try: > >1) As per GAZ5, Elves can pick up magic from humans (following the Way of >the Adventurer, and getting limited to Level 5 spell ability, but with free >choice of spells) > >2) or follow the Way of the Tree, studying by the Treekeepers of their >clans: more narrow spell selection, but up to level 9 spell ability. > >Any 3E adaption should combine those two facts; I would make "standard >adventuring elves" Wizards: they study in the human way, they just have a >knack for it cuz of their nature (as seen in their Preferred Class); and I >would make Way of the Tree Elves into either Sorcerers or multiclass >Druid-Sorcerer, OR, I would keep them as sorcerer but I would make a new >spell list for them, taking away those "unknown spells" according to GAZ5 >and putting in new spells from the Druid list. > >just 2 cents... >Andr�s _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 16:04:46 -0600 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: M Novy Subject: Re: What's your Favourite Nation? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hands down it is Karameikos........ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 16:06:29 -0600 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: M Novy Subject: Re: Languages Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed No offense to anyone....i think that some people get to into the languages thing. Mike _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 00:17:29 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Piquer_Otero?= Subject: Re: Languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Great work in that chart!!!! I would like to see it with a nifty format for all those diagrams in the Vaults of Pandius website!! Recently, I read through GAZ11 again, preparing for my PCs emergence from HW and mixing up in the WotI events, and I found that "Darokinian" appears to be an independent language, whereas, for some reason I've forgotten, I got that image of it being a Thyatian dialect! According to history, it should be an evolution of Traldar, and so maybe a dialect of Traladaran, but then, I've seen I read somewhere (probably on this list) that it was quite linked to Caurenzan Thyatian... Any ideas?? Andr�s ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 00:25:07 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Piquer_Otero?= Subject: Trees of Life and Glantri princely lineages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi! I'm still kinda puzzled about Trees of Life, especially those in Glantri: according to GAZ3, both Erewan and Alhambra clans have a Tree of Life... the Erewan tree would come from a sapling of Alfheim (Clan Erendyl I guess), but what about the Belcadiz Tree??? Does it come from the "United Elven Principality"? Does a Tree of Life make sense in an elven clan removed from the ways of the Tree?? Also, being Trees of Life artifacts (as presented in GAZ5), how is their presence justified in arreligious Glantri? Do you allow Elves from Glantri to follow the Way of the Tree and gain Elven Wizard levels?? Question 2: GKOM (aahhrgh, i know, but it's a bit useful for preparing WotI and post-War events...) says that "only 3 princely Houses were dispossesed". I'm trying to count and I just get 2: *House Silverston (levelled by Meteor after becoming pro-Alphatian traitors) *House Sireccia (reduced to mad Innocenti) Where is the third House?? either GKoM is befuddled, or it's a reference to the United Elven Principality (and that would be a splitting, not a dispossession) or I'm missing some part of early Glantrian history. thankx Andr�s ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 20:09:04 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Mike Donnelly Jr Subject: Re: What's your Favourite Nation? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Grand Duchy of the Karameikos (er, is that Kingdom of the Karameikos?). Definitely. Darokin second. Caroletti wrote: > Yes, I am here again. > Give a vote if you haven't !!! > > VOTES: 91 > > Alfheim: 6 > Alphatia: 8 > Bellayne: 1 > Broken Lands: 1 > Cynidicea: 1 > Darokin: 6,5 > Dunwick: 1 > Ethengar: 3 > Five Shires: 2 > Glantri: 12,5 (Second) > Heldann: 1 > Hule: 2 > Ierendi: 1 > Karameikos: 14,5 (First) > Minrothad: 1 > Nithia: 1 > Northern Reaches: 2,5 > Norwold: 4,5 > Rockhome: 3 > Serraine: 1,5 > Thyatis: 10 (Third) > Shadow Elves: 1,5 > Wendar: 1,5 > Yavdlom: 1 > Ylaruam: 4 > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 03:19:06 EST Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Master's Pawn Subject: Re: .3E Mystaran Elves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Would we be violating any WOtC copyright if someone who has their Gaz5 handy were to post that elf spell list? ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 10:48:27 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Agathokles Subject: Re: Languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Andr�s Piquer Otero wrote: > > Great work in that chart!!!! I would like to see it with a nifty format for > all those diagrams in the Vaults of Pandius website!! > > Recently, I read through GAZ11 again, preparing for my PCs emergence from HW > and mixing up in the WotI events, and I found that "Darokinian" appears to > be an independent language, whereas, for some reason I've forgotten, I got > that image of it being a Thyatian dialect! According to history, it should > be an evolution of Traldar, and so maybe a dialect of Traladaran, but then, > I've seen I read somewhere (probably on this list) that it was quite linked > to Caurenzan Thyatian... As I said, my diagram reflects my campaign, where "Darokinian" is a mix of Traladaran, Antalian and Thyatian, with a prevalence of the first. -- Giampaolo Agosta agathokles@libero.it agosta@fusberta.elet.polimi.it http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles/index.htm ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 12:04:29 +0200 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Eyal Fleminger Subject: Re: Trees of Life and Glantri princely lineages Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >Also, being Trees of Life artifacts (as presented in GAZ5), how is their >presence justified in arreligious Glantri? >Do you allow Elves from Glantri to follow the Way of the Tree and gain >Elven >Wizard levels?? While Glantrian law forbids clericism, it may well turn a blind eye to "private citizens" doings, as long as they're unobtrusive. Also, the other Princes could simply ignore the elven religion, as it s more of a way of life rather than formal ritual, and since it is uniquely elven, is unlikely to pose a threat to he mostly human Principalities. I didn't allow Glantrian elves to learn the spell from GAZ5, since that source says they can be leared only in major elven population centers (Glantrian elves could go and learn in Aldheim, though). _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 11:51:29 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Piquer_Otero?= Subject: Re: Trees of Life and Glantri princely lineages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >I didn't allow Glantrian elves to learn the spell from GAZ5, since that >source says they can be leared only in major elven population centers >(Glantrian elves could go and learn in Aldheim, though). Yes, that was what I thought first, but GAZ5 itself says that tree magic would be availabre to elves in other woodland lifestyle elven centers which had a tree of life, and IIRC the text gives Callari elves in Karameikos as an example... well, I think that, compared to Erewan, Callarii elf community is not major... Andr�s ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 11:06:00 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Martin Mathes Subject: Re: What's your Favourite Nation? considering most fun, it is definitely The Flying City of Serraine! considering logical construction, perhaps Glantri Caroletti said: > Yes, I am here again. > Give a vote if you haven't !!! > > VOTES: 91 > > Alfheim: 6 > Alphatia: 8 > Bellayne: 1 > Broken Lands: 1 > Cynidicea: 1 > Darokin: 6,5 > Dunwick: 1 > Ethengar: 3 > Five Shires: 2 > Glantri: 12,5 (Second) > Heldann: 1 > Hule: 2 > Ierendi: 1 > Karameikos: 14,5 (First) > Minrothad: 1 > Nithia: 1 > Northern Reaches: 2,5 > Norwold: 4,5 > Rockhome: 3 > Serraine: 1,5 > Thyatis: 10 (Third) > Shadow Elves: 1,5 > Wendar: 1,5 > Yavdlom: 1 > Ylaruam: 4 > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > > > -- ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 12:59:18 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: eikab Subject: Some note on Mystara languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some note on Mystara languages Because the player an the masters of Mystara generally try to accord the = mystarian's language at the real wolrd, ever borns some problem. We can = disagree with this habit but a critic isn't useful: that being, is = (Hegel docet).=20 Well, the most problematic language in Mystara to according to the RW = is, just to changing, the traladarans. We have tree chances. 1) The east european toungues, such as russian and bulgarian. Jennifer = Guerra, has indicates them in her traladar mini-gazetter (see the site). = But these have only penalities, because this languages are far away from = the latin/thyathian stocks. Only if the traladar dessceand from the = nithian, the can according this, but in real wolrd this is not true. 2) The ungharian. This language was born by the fusion of the ungarian = tongues of the east asia and the germanic laguages of the north europe = (longobard), without intromission of any tounges, slave or latin. In = effect the modern magjaornsak language doesn't resemble to any european = languages. If the traldarans languages was perform in the dark ages of = this civilation the can use it, but this gives a lot of other problems. 3) the rumeno. Is the best. Because it is of the family of the = neo-latins languages, and find a canon according with the Gazetter of = Karameikos with the names of the NPC'S. farewell =20 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 13:16:18 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: eikab Subject: R: [MYSTARA] Trees of Life and Glantri princely lineages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Andr�s Piquer Otero To: Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 12:25 AM Subject: [MYSTARA] Trees of Life and Glantri princely lineages > Hi! > > I'm still kinda puzzled about Trees of Life, especially those in Glantri: > according to GAZ3, both Erewan and Alhambra clans have a Tree of Life... the > Erewan tree would come from a sapling of Alfheim (Clan Erendyl I guess), but > what about the Belcadiz Tree??? Does it come from the "United Elven > Principality"? Does a Tree of Life make sense in an elven clan removed from > the ways of the Tree?? > > Also, being Trees of Life artifacts (as presented in GAZ5), how is their > presence justified in arreligious Glantri? > Do you allow Elves from Glantri to follow the Way of the Tree and gain Elven > Wizard levels?? > > >the belcadiz simply don't have a tree of life, because they don't worship Insundal and don't follow the the forest path. I follow the Idea of J. Guerra (belcadiz Gazetter on the Vaults of Pandius site) that explane an extra-mystarian origin of the belcadiz elves. However they have several underground faiths, like all others churchs. So now we must built the elf-vleric of belcadiz! > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 13:21:37 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: eikab Subject: R: Re: [MYSTARA] Languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Andr�s Piquer Otero To: Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 12:17 AM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] Languages > Great work in that chart!!!! I would like to see it with a nifty format for > all those diagrams in the Vaults of Pandius website!! > > Recently, I read through GAZ11 again, preparing for my PCs emergence from HW > and mixing up in the WotI events, and I found that "Darokinian" appears to > be an independent language, whereas, for some reason I've forgotten, I got > that image of it being a Thyatian dialect! According to history, it should > be an evolution of Traldar, and so maybe a dialect of Traladaran, but then, > I've seen I read somewhere (probably on this list) that it was quite linked > to Caurenzan Thyatian... > > Yes the chart is good, but with some modify: 1) the traladrans as I had explaned in my previolusy e-mail 2) the belcadiz don't born from the ispan! It's an elvish languages that from the human laguages drain only the words that it needs. p.es. the word abuot politic and istitutions (don, dona, hidalgo ect.)> ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:33:48 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Agathokles Subject: Re: Languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit eikab wrote: > > Yes the chart is good, but with some modify: > 1) the traladrans as I had explaned in my previolusy e-mail Ok, you'd rather have Traladaran as rumanian. But I suppose the derivation tree stands. > 2) the belcadiz don't born from the ispan! It's an elvish languages that > from the human laguages drain only the words that it needs. p.es. the word > abuot politic and istitutions (don, dona, hidalgo ect.)> And personal names, names of places, and all the words we have in canon :P However, that's just my personal preference. Kit's article portrays Belcadizan as a variant of standard elven, IIRC. IMC, the Belcadizan elves came from the Thanegioth Archipelago, which (always IMC) was the original seat of the Ispan people. -- Giampaolo Agosta agathokles@libero.it agosta@fusberta.elet.polimi.it http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles/index.htm ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 09:01:45 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Greg Weatherup Subject: Languages Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit great table, but I got a couple of questions on those languague up north (which admittedly I don't know that much about, so if I'm just plain wrong say so.). 1) Isn't Heldannic (or Heldann, depending on how you want to call it) the language spoken by the northmen in Heldann, Vestland, Oostland, Soderfjord, and parts of norwold (each with differnet dialects possibly), as well as the humans of wendar (I'd imagine the later was heavily influenced by the elvish dialects of Wendar). Thus it wouldn't be derived from Hattian, correct? The Heldannic Knights, coming (mostly) from Hattias speak Hattian, correct? 2) (this one is for everyone) The language of Oceansend.... It's a Thyatian colony (originally) correct? But it has many northmen too right? So do they speak Heldann/Heldannic or Thyatian or both or something else entirely? (I don't at the moment have my PWA's readily accesible at the moment.) Greg Weatherup GWxup@excite.com http:/www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/spock/67/index.html > Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 21:03:33 +0100 > From: Agathokles > Subject: Re: Languages > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Angelo Bertolli wrote: > > > > Thanks for the info on Glantri languages. Where could I find info on > > languages from other areas? > > I made this table for my campaign, so it includes some non canon > languages, and some non canon interpretation of canon languages (ex., I > consider Belcadizan to be a dialect of the human language of the Savage > Coast, and not a dialect of elvish). > > As for RW counterparts, "Old Tongues" the most tricky. I'm not familiar > with all of the RW languages involved, so I'll give only some examples. > > Prehistoric Ancient Languages Old Tongues Modern Modern > Dialects > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Neathar-+--->Antalian---+----->Old-Thyatian->Thyatian-+ > | | +---->Glantrian > | | +---->Slag > | | > | +----->Old-Kerendan->Kerendan-+ > | | +---->Caurenzan > | | > | +----->Ispan---+---->Espa--+ > | | | +------->Belcadizan > | | +---->Verdan > | | > | +----->NeoAntalian+->Hattian--+ > | | | +---->Aalbanese > | | | +---->Heldannic > | | +->Heldanner-+ > | | | +--->Vestlander > | | | +--->Ostlander > | | | +--->Soderfjorder > | | | +--->Oceansender > | | +->Eusdrian > | | > | +----->Dunaelic-+--->Dunael > | +--->Ranax > | +--->Thratian > | > +--->Proto-Jennite---->Old-Jennite-->Jennite > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Laterran---->Latin&Germanic-+->French------->Sylaire----+ > Indoeuropean | +--->Renardois > | +->Old-English-->Anglais-------->Fenswick > +---->Laterran Gaelic-->Scot. Gaelic->Kaelic > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Nithian------>Traldar----+---->OldTraladaran->Traladaran-+ > & | +->Boldavian > Antalian | +->Slagich > | +->Olgarian > +---->Daro Dialects->Daro--+ > | +------>Shire Daro > | +------>Ierendian > +---->Milenian------>Modern Milenian > > RW Equivalences: > Neathar, Antalian: ipothetic indoeuropean tongue. > Old Thyatian: Cato Maior's Latin > Thyatian Common: Cicero's Latin > Glantrian: Early Empire spoken Latin > Old Kerendan: Late Middle-Age Italian (Dante's). > Kerendan: Modern Italian (or Petrarca's Italian, more fittingly). > Caurenzan: like Kerendan, but with heavy Tuscanian accent (think > Benigni's) > Traldar: Homeric Greek > Milenian: Various Greek dialects of the classic age > Modern Milenian: Hellenistic Koine > -- > > > Giampaolo Agosta > > > agathokles@libero.it > agosta@fusberta.elet.polimi.it > http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles/index.htm _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 19:43:50 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Agathokles Subject: Re: Languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greg Weatherup wrote: > > great table, but I got a couple of questions on those languague up north > (which admittedly I don't know that much about, so if I'm just plain wrong > say so.). > > 1) Isn't Heldannic (or Heldann, depending on how you want to call it) the > language spoken by the northmen in Heldann, Vestland, Oostland, Soderfjord, > and parts of norwold (each with differnet dialects possibly), as well as the > humans of wendar (I'd imagine the later was heavily influenced by the elvish > dialects of Wendar). Thus it wouldn't be derived from Hattian, correct? > The Heldannic Knights, coming (mostly) from Hattias speak Hattian, correct? I used "Heldannic" to refer to a Hattian dialect (influenced by Heldanner), and "Heldanner" to refer to the tongue spoken by the Antalian populations in Wendar, Heldann, Norwold and the Northern Reaches. You can use different names, of course. > 2) (this one is for everyone) The language of Oceansend.... It's a Thyatian > colony (originally) correct? But it has many northmen too right? So do > they speak Heldann/Heldannic or Thyatian or both or something else entirely? > (I don't at the moment have my PWA's readily accesible at the moment.) I suppose they speak a form of Heldanner which includes many Thyatian words. Their names are in Heldanner, not Thyatian form. > > | +----->NeoAntalian+->Hattian--+ > > | | | +---->Aalbanese > > | | | +---->Heldannic > > | | +->Heldanner-+ > > | | | +--->Vestlander > > | | | +--->Ostlander > > | | | +--->Soderfjorder > > | | | +--->Oceansender -- Giampaolo Agosta agathokles@libero.it agosta@fusberta.elet.polimi.it http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles/index.htm ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:02:58 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: jason o'brien Subject: Re: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Alphatia > None (favored weapon for a pacifist deity?) how about the pen, after all it is mightier than the sword :-) mortus. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:54:52 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: jason o'brien Subject: Re: Attachment Blunder MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Apologies for the unreadable and "illegal" attachment (28k?). I'm afraid I > don't how to convert my word documents into the e-mails. Can anyone help ? > just highlight all the text in the word document and press CTRL + C together, then go to your email and press CTRL + V together. make sure the cursor is in the text frame first or you could end up putting the whole file in the subject line or something. hope this helps. mortus. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:56:47 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: jason o'brien Subject: Re: url error!! sorry (maps available) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > The MML. > It was called the Midlands gazetteer IIRC. > I dont neccesarily need an interractive map, but that gazetteer has > different cities and different countries and it would have been useful to > have those on a map aswell :) > > I'll see if I have them somewhere. > was it ever posted to a website and if so do you have the URL. mortus. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 19:03:50 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "paul.benfield" Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: <02a301c083d2$72f7ff00$8ff5869f@pbncomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> Alphatia >> None (favored weapon for a pacifist deity?) >how about the pen, after all it is mightier than the sword :-) >mortus. Or what about the Net as there's no chance of damage unless the target's on the edge of a cliff! :-) Paul Benfield ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:15:05 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: The Stalker Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Subject: Re: Languages Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 09:01:45 Greg Weatherup wrote: >great table, but I got a couple of questions on those languague up north >(which admittedly I don't know that much about, so if I'm just plain wrong >say so.). > Well, going by those dreaded canon sources... :) >1) Isn't Heldannic (or Heldann, depending on how you want to call it) the >language spoken by the northmen in Heldann, Vestland, Oostland, Soderfjord, >and parts of norwold (each with differnet dialects possibly), as well as the >humans of wendar (I'd imagine the later was heavily influenced by the elvish >dialects of Wendar). Thus it wouldn't be derived from Hattian, correct? >The Heldannic Knights, coming (mostly) from Hattias speak Hattian, correct? > The Heldannic Territories and Northern Reaches speak Antalian. The Heldannec people have their own dialect called Heldannic (K:KoM, p.104 and 108). >2) (this one is for everyone) The language of Oceansend.... It's a Thyatian >colony (originally) correct? But it has many northmen too right? So do >they speak Heldann/Heldannic or Thyatian or both or something else entirely? >(I don't at the moment have my PWA's readily accesible at the moment.) > According to PWA1 (AC 1010) the people of Oceansend *do* speak Thyatian! Note that this was before any Heldannic invasions or what have we... I would presume that many speak Antalian as well, but that's my own conclusion (many Alphatian, too, given how long it was under Alphatian control) - The Stalker Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:18:35 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: The Stalker Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Subject: Re: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:02:58 jason o'brien wrote: >> Alphatia >> None (favored weapon for a pacifist deity?) >how about the pen, after all it is mightier than the sword :-) > LOL! True, but try convincing a Thyatian of that! ;) Actually, I think Alphatia's weapon could be a flower - ever heard of 'flower power' ? :) - The Stalker Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:29:59 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: The Stalker Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Subject: Re: Languages Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 00:17:29 Andris Piquer Otero wrote: >Great work in that chart!!!! I would like to see it with a nifty format for >all those diagrams in the Vaults of Pandius website!! > >Recently, I read through GAZ11 again, preparing for my PCs emergence from HW >and mixing up in the WotI events, and I found that "Darokinian" appears to >be an independent language, whereas, for some reason I've forgotten, I got >that image of it being a Thyatian dialect! According to history, it should >be an evolution of Traldar, and so maybe a dialect of Traladaran, but then, >I've seen I read somewhere (probably on this list) that it was quite linked >to Caurenzan Thyatian... > >Any ideas?? > This confusion is understandable. For a long time Darokin's language was given only as 'Darokinian', suggesting a separate language. In K:KoA, however, it is suddenly described as a dialect of Thyatian (K:KoA, p. 102), probably so that Thyatian would be more readily be accepted as the 'Common' tongue for Mystara under AD&D 2e rules. Personally I don't mind so much, but it is a bit confusing. - The Stalker, Alphatian student of obscure languages ;) Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 14:57:26 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Mike Donnelly Jr Subject: Re: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Stalker wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:02:58 jason o'brien wrote: > >> Alphatia > >> None (favored weapon for a pacifist deity?) > >how about the pen, after all it is mightier than the sword :-) > > > > LOL! > > True, but try convincing a Thyatian of that! ;) You've obviously never read either a Thyatian peace treaty or Thyatian trade agreement. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:08:45 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Piquer_Otero?= Subject: Re: Languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Well, if Darokinian were not more-or-less close to Thyatian, then most Darokinians would have to be really blingual as they engage in merchant activities abroad or in taking care of the many many foreign people carrying cargo and using the Republic's services... I don't know if it's too radical, but I could see Darokinian language being assimilated to Thyatian after brief contact, especially as the nation grew strong into trade and realized the need of a (sorry for the pun) trade language with neighbours: Glantri (which also went through an analogue process of linguistic Thyatianization in their Common) and Thyatis... and for pre-Stefan Karameikos (in which there was already an incipient Thyatian commercial presence), do you think that Karameikan Traladaran is more or less understandable with Darokinian??? I would say no, I can see Darokinian as RW Venetian Italian: a Thyatian dialect which keeps quite a lot of Traldar elements (as Venetian used Byzantine words), so that a Darokinian can "voluntarily lapse into dialect" and become ununderstandable for foreigners... Traladaran would be kinda "slavized" version of Old Traldar... By the way, how do you handle in your campaigns the dialect issue??? Do you make them language slots or do you just require a time of exposure for the PC to master (if he know another dialect of the same language)? can PCs try, say, Int rolls to understand a thick dialect of an already known language? in CoM, a couple of characters (Haldemar and Raman) spend language slots to master the Ambur dialect of Alphatian for literary usage, but that seems to me kinda extreme! Andr�s ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:09:30 +1100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: shawn stanley Subject: Re: url error!! sorry (maps available) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 16:56 21/01/01 -0000, you wrote: >> >> The MML. >> It was called the Midlands gazetteer IIRC. >> I dont neccesarily need an interractive map, but that gazetteer has >> different cities and different countries and it would have been useful to >> have those on a map aswell :) >> >> I'll see if I have them somewhere. >> >was it ever posted to a website and if so do you have the URL. >mortus. for Midlands stuff go to the Vaults of Pandius/Geography Section/Midlands and the Great Waste/Midlands the direct link is http://dnd.starflung.com/midwaste.html#midlands shawn stanley http://dnd.starflung.com what have you done for me lately ... more to the point what have i done for me - mightyfew, "i can't wait" ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:31:54 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike Donnelly Jr wrote: > > >how about the pen, after all it is mightier than the sword :-) > > LOL! > > True, but try convincing a Thyatian of that! ;) > > You've obviously never read either a Thyatian peace treaty or Thyatian trade agreement. [smiling] Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:56:45 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Agathokles Subject: Re: Languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Andr�s Piquer Otero wrote: > > By the way, how do you handle in your campaigns the dialect issue??? Do you > make them language slots or do you just require a time of exposure for the > PC to master (if he know another dialect of the same language)? can PCs try, > say, Int rolls to understand a thick dialect of an already known language? > in CoM, a couple of characters (Haldemar and Raman) spend language slots to > master the Ambur dialect of Alphatian for literary usage, but that seems to > me kinda extreme! I use affinity between languages, as in the Savage Coast Campaign Setting. For dialects of the same language, I simply assume an higher affinity. -- Giampaolo Agosta agathokles@libero.it agosta@fusberta.elet.polimi.it http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles/index.htm ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 13:03:36 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Ramses Ramirez Subject: Re: What's your Favourite Nation? Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 Well..... I have thought and thought and labored mentally which country is my ABSOLUTE favorite. I dunno. This is a painful process. It would have to be a toss-up between Glantri and Karameikos for me. Most of the other countries (Thyatis, Minrothad, Alfheim,..etc) though would be close behind,however. I do know with pretty good certainty, though that the Known World is my favorite REGION in Mystara. Lancer P.S. Whatever happened to the Hollow World (Milenian Empire,Azcan Empire. I notice Nithia is there though.) or the other Savage Coast kingdoms in this poll? :) > > > >Caroletti said: > >> Yes, I am here again. >> Give a vote if you haven't !!! >> >> VOTES: 91 >> >> Alfheim: 6 >> Alphatia: 8 >> Bellayne: 1 >> Broken Lands: 1 >> Cynidicea: 1 >> Darokin: 6,5 >> Dunwick: 1 >> Ethengar: 3 >> Five Shires: 2 >> Glantri: 12,5 (Second) >> Heldann: 1 >> Hule: 2 >> Ierendi: 1 >> Karameikos: 14,5 (First) >> Minrothad: 1 >> Nithia: 1 >> Northern Reaches: 2,5 >> Norwold: 4,5 >> Rockhome: 3 >> Serraine: 1,5 >> Thyatis: 10 (Third) >> Shadow Elves: 1,5 >> Wendar: 1,5 >> Yavdlom: 1 >> Ylaruam: 4 >> >> ******************************************************************** >> The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp >> The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ >> To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM >> with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. >> >> >> > > > >-- > >******************************************************************** >The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp >The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ >To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM >with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ------------------------------------------------------------ Get Your Free Mail Address at http://www.StarWarsEmail.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 22:03:05 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Angelo Bertolli Subject: Alignment Languages Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I don't know what you think about alignment tongues, but I they were always confusing at best. Well for me, I didn't really care because it's a game and it's not hard to implement a rule about alignment languages even if it doesn't make alot of real sense. However, my friend Jeff decided what these "alignment languages" actually meant. He decided that chaotic was street-talk with alot of slang and other un-understandable words to someone new to the area. (Just read the Lexicon of Theives' Cant http://members.fortunecity.com/abertoll/dnd/lexicon.txt) And that lawful was a high-society talk, which used rare vocabulary and maybe archaic wording in a formal/artsy way. >Subject: Re: alignment languages >Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 10:35:45 -0800 (PST) > > > Don't you remember? Lawful is speech of nobility. Neutral is the dead >language used for classification. Chaotic is the street language. > >--- "Angelo Bertolli" > > wrote: > >How do you handle alignment languages? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:40:22 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Martin Mathes Subject: Re: Alignment Languages just idealistic nonsense, ;) sorry to say that . . . just imagine some beeings from totally differnt corners of any world, but with the same alignment AND THEN THEY CAN TALK IN THEIR ALIGNMENT LANGUAGE, whow, I just treat it, if ever, as a kind of behavior, body and subvocal language, making it easier for beings of similar alignment to get along well. So the two from the former example are more likely not to kill each other on mere sight, and be able to use simple sign language or simple drawings for communication. And understand each other's ideas easier. Martin > >Subject: Re: alignment languages > >Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 10:35:45 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > Don't you remember? Lawful is speech of nobility. Neutral is the dead > >language used for classification. Chaotic is the street language. > > > >--- "Angelo Bertolli" > > > wrote: > > >How do you handle alignment languages? > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:55:26 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Aaron E Nowack Subject: Mystara 3E PBEM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm curious. How many people out there would be interested in a Mystara PBEM using 3E rules? I could probably find the time to run one, but I'd vastly prefer playing, as I never get a chance to play face-to-face (I'm the only person in my group with any interest at all in DM'ing). Aaron Nowack "Never let reality get in the way of a good hypothesis." http://www.geocities.com/anowack/ ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:56:32 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: KoRneR Subject: Re: What's your Favourite Nation? In-Reply-To: <3A69D95D.302BA68F@tin.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Caroletti wrote: Wote for Bellayne from me, and Eusdria from one of my players.. BTW don't nobody likes Magiocracy of Herath? That would have been my second wote.. > Yes, I am here again. > Give a vote if you haven't !!! > > VOTES: 91 > > Alfheim: 6 > Alphatia: 8 > Bellayne: 1 > Broken Lands: 1 > Cynidicea: 1 > Darokin: 6,5 > Dunwick: 1 > Ethengar: 3 > Five Shires: 2 > Glantri: 12,5 (Second) > Heldann: 1 > Hule: 2 > Ierendi: 1 > Karameikos: 14,5 (First) > Minrothad: 1 > Nithia: 1 > Northern Reaches: 2,5 > Norwold: 4,5 > Rockhome: 3 > Serraine: 1,5 > Thyatis: 10 (Third) > Shadow Elves: 1,5 > Wendar: 1,5 > Yavdlom: 1 > Ylaruam: 4 > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > greetings, KoRneR (a.k.a. Ivan Stanojevic) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- PFCode: v1.2a r+d>s BO 0/0/ FD 0- 0 TFC 3 0 99.3% <18nov0> ICQ#: 32555524 feeling like a mail: reaper@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu freak on a leash. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:03:31 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Andrew Theisen Subject: Blackheart Gaz ver. 1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After a lengthy delay, here's the mini-Gaz of the Alphatian Kingdom of Blackheart. Feedback welcome! Kingdom of Blackheart Ruler: King Hugorth the Misanthrope (Wiz20, CE, Member of the Grand Council) Hugorth's epithet doesn't quite do him justice- he dislikes all sentient races equally, not just mankind. He considers everyone else to be inferior and disgusting, and has difficulties when required to carry on a conversation with another being. Mostly, though, Hugorth resents the way intelligent creatures scream and beg when they are being unmercifully tortured and experimented upon. He pays a man he has never met to represent him on the Grand Council- he would have been replaced years ago, but many council members find his predictability refreshing (he always abstains from any vote).=20 Appearance: Height: 5'5", Weight: 190 lbs. Common Alphatian ethnicity. Brown hair, brown eyes, unremarkable features. Hugorth dresses in featureless rumpled clothes of any color, usually spotted with dribbles from the last few days' worth of meals. Apparent age- 50 years. Important People: Belgoroth the Lamer (Clr11, CE, Jammudaru) Hugorth's "son" is, in fact, one of the Misanthrope's greatest successful creations. Experiments in crossbreeding beasts and men resulted in Belgoroth, the only product of such unions to survive. Hugorth raised the abomination as his own son, which is to say, he treated him only slightly better than he treated anyone else. Belgoroth schemes and plots for the day he will replace his "father" on the throne of Blackheart.=20 Appearance: Height: 6'2", Weight: 214 lbs. His head is shaved bald, his eyes are black, and he has the coppery skin tone one associates with Common Alphatians. Belgoroth is a stout, strongly built man. He exercises regularly- not just to keep in shape, but mostly because he finds working out to ease the pain caused by his not-completely-human anatomy. He sweats incessantly, hiding his hairy body beneath shapeless brown garments that seem to be made out of burlap. (They hide his inhuman form somewhat, allowing him to pass as a normal man.) Philosophy: "Anything goes" would be the national catchphrase of Blackheart=85 that is= , if it weren't already "Watch your back." The 'kingdom' is truly an anarchy- the only crimes are assault on king or family (death penalty), damage to kings property (immediate compensation, can result in death if king angry enough). Everything else is eminently legal. Everything.=20 Non-Alphatians often get the wrong impression of Blackheart. Hearing about the tongue-in-cheek humor the Blackhearts make of Alphatian nationalism, and the way other Alphatians grumble about the "cruel bastards of Blackheart" can lead outsiders to think that Blackhearters are misunderstood, or that the rumors of their evil ways are deceptive, offered forth by the wounded pride of other Alphatian nations.=20 They aren't. Every rumor is well deserved. If anything, perhaps the other Alphatians are too easy on their fellow countrymen. True, the Blackhearters poke fun at the prideful ways of many other Alphatians, and scoff at any sense of nationalism, or order, or lawfulness. Yet there is a vicious undertone to all of their jests that goes far beyond individuality or rebelliousness. The Blackhearters are just plain mean. These are people who'd cut out an outsider's vital organs and share a "hearty" laugh (pun intended). They don't spit in the face of nationalism and civic pride just to be rebellious- they do it because they're the toughest, meanest cusses around and they know it. And they don't care if everyone else knows it, too. So why does the Empire tolerate them? For one thing, the Blackhearters, for all their arrogance and disdain, tend to keep to themselves. They don't go around with chips on their shoulders- they don't have to. Most of them are in illicit or dangerous lines of work, and to survive in that business, you've got to refrain from drawing unnecessary attention to yourself.=20 Secondly, the Blackhearters are a valuable resource to wizards across the continent. Anytime some dirty work is needed, the archmages know where to go to find skilled and competent assistance- because no one survives long in Blackheart if he can't take care of himself. Then there is the fact that Blackheart is considered a getaway location for hundreds of the Empire's most prominent wizards. It is one of the few spots they can go to where they can truly be removed from the outside world, a valuable asset for reclusive wizards. Only the foolhardy tread the depths of Blackheart casually. Finally, for all the embarrassment the Blackhearters may cause internally in the Empire, their reputation has only helped the image of imperial Alphatia abroad.=20 Landmarks: 1) Shraek (pop. 20,000): Blackheart's capital city, and the only real settlement of any note within the kingdom's borders. It's population consists of reclusive wizards (1%), townsmen and mercenaries (40%), and slaves, servants, and victims of wizards' mad experiments (59%). Shraek has dark libraries (which charge substantial use fees), taverns, inns, alchemists, poisoners, zzonga dens, crematoriums; almost anything can be found here- including things which would be illegal elsewhere in the Empire. The city itself is dark, and gloomy. By longstanding tradition and kingly decree, the streets are laid out in twisting, winding patterns, constantly crossing and recrossing. All buildings are built in disturbing fashions, and must be built of or painted in dark colors- greys, blacks, midnight tones. The inner quarter of Shraek is surrounded by a warped and oddly angled curtain of black obsidian. It is a marvel of architecture, as it is only a few inches thick at almost all points, but it is nearly indestructible. Only a very few people know that the wall is actually a baaka (see WotI Book One, or Immortal Set DM's Guide). Over the centuries, the city's population has grown to extend outside the walls (into what is called the Outer City, naturally). It is here that most of the commoners make their dwellings, leaving the inner city largely to the manors and townhouses of Shraek's wizardly denizens. There are also several farms in the outer reaches of Shraek, which provide a substantial proportion of the city's agricultural needs. 2) The Ugly Woods: Only a few scant miles from the outer city, the Ugly Woods of Blackheart spring up in the full force of their twisted, ominous glory. In the depths of this wood lay hundreds of wizards' towers, dungeons, castles, and laboratories, all distant and hard to reach. Monsters unlike those found elsewhere roam the forest- deranged experimental victims, nightmare creatures, undead spirits of the woods' former fey races, and creatures unnaturally altered by the poisonous soil of the Ugly Wood. Here, too, is the realm of what is arguably Blackheart's most dangerous denizen. An elder Air Elemental from the Nightmare Dimensional Plane of Air (HD24). Shaddoth by name, this creature was released into the Normal dimension by the magicks of Atzanteotl, in 734 AY. It was largely through the depredations of this beast- driven half mad by its transition to Mystara- that led to the fall of the elvish kingdom of Ilmaryl. Since then, the poisonous gases that constitute its vaporous form have caused the trees and wildlife of Blackheart to take on their unnatural natures- for no normal plant or animal could long survive the dark taint of Shaddoth's foul presence.=20 The poisons of Shaddoth have only been kept in check by the guardian baak that is Shraek's inner curtain wall. Sent by the Immortal Eiryndul to protect his followers in Shiye-Lawr, the baak contains within it a magical artifact that binds Shaddoth to Blackheart. So long as the artifact is functioning, Shaddoth cannot pass beyond the bounds of what is now known as the Ugly Wood. The Nightmair Elemental long gave up trying to assault Shraek (and the baak guardian) directly. It now roams the Ugly Wood, venting its frustration on any unfortunate enough to come across the creature. Several expeditions were sent to destroy Shaddoth centuries ago- none ever returned. Normal magicks are largely ineffectual against the Nightmare creature, and it is physically powerful enough that it can withstand all but the strongest mortals. Though half-mad, it is not stupid- Shaddoth would run rather than fight an obviously superior opponent.=20 Notable Sites in Shraek: 1) Hugorth's Villa- This ominous, four story structure looms over nearby residences. It is built atop the an old asylum for the mentally deranged. When Hugorth became king, he ordered the entire staff fired, and the residents of several surrounding buildings to evacuate in order to make room for his villa. They got off lucky; it is said that the screams of the asylum's patients can still be heard whenever Hugorth is in the city performing his experiments. 2) City Planning Building- To say this structure is an eyesore is an understatement. Built in a myriad of angles and physics-defying shapes, it is the only building in the city that is permitted to exist in violation of the strict color statutes. Its clashing bright hues and tints stand wildly at odds with the blacks, greys, and dark tones of all other buildings in the city. Indeed, sometimes the structure seems to change and shift its features at random.=20 Tolstoy (Sor14) is the current commissioner of the City Planning Department. An idiot savant, he mostly sits and stares outside drooling. Prospective developers rail at the idea of presenting their projects to Tolstoy, since his approval seems completely random. In actuality if he were to be allowed to continue his choices for another millenium or so, the alignment of angles and buildings in the city would bring Shraek in conjunction with the planets, making it the focal point of chaos in the universe, and drastically altering the surrounding landscape. It would also inadvertently elevate Tolstoy to Immortality. The odds of him surviving long enough to see this project through are so astronomical that it would be nearly impossible. His nursemaid, Gelinka (Com2), plots with half a mind to destroy the child. The other half is bound by a geas placed on her by Tolstoy's parents before they died to watch over him. 3) Nicodemus' HydroThaumatoponic Gardens: Nicodemus (Wiz6/Dru9) is one of the most successful businessmen in Shraek. His "gardens" are actually several large buildings filled with massive enchanted aquatic apparatuses that enable him to grow foodstuffs that are several times larger than anything occurring naturally. His gardens provide a large portion of the agriculture to the citizens of Shraek. Secretly, however, Nicodemus is working on a new form of vegetable life. He believes that vegetable matter will one day conquer the world, with him leading the way. Several huge (15 HD) Shambling Mounds patrol the gardens, taking care of any possible intruders. Other Towns/Settlements: 1) The University of Malebolge (pop. 175): Founded in 1946 AY, Malebolge provides its students with areas of specialization not found in many other universities outside of Blackheart. The fields of translocational surgery and thaumaturgical agriculture are particularly sought after by many aspiring archmages. The graduation rate is very low, however, as many seniors don't survive their final thesis projects. 2) Castle Qain (pop. 0): Just one of many abandoned and ruined towers in the woods of Blackheart. Castle Qain was the center of a showdown between a dozen powerful wizards back in 993 AC. The tower still reeks of the magicks that were unleashed, and discerning wizards may also detect the tint of even more powerful, Immortal forces at work in the ruins. Army: Blackheart maintains no regular army. In the unlikely event of invasion, the mercenaries and wizards living within the city would form a powerful adversary to any attacker. (Though under serious threat, they would probably cut their losses and move elsewhere). The Shraek's baak wall is sufficient to prevent any hostile force from entering the inner city itself (it could even potentially stand against minor Immortal attempts to break its defenses). (Note: The army stats listed in PWA1010 must be mercenary forces and conscripts). Colors: Black, Red, and Silver. The heraldic symbol of Blackheart is a black background with a white hand dripping blood in the middle. The hand is set in a gesture that is almost universally considered rude. It should be noted that Blackheart has no formal crest- this logo was created in response to the artistic craze of Mylertendal centuries ago, and has come to be the 'unofficial' crest of the kingdom. Flag: Blackheart has no national flag.=20 What Others Say: Eirikr Samrson, from Frisland: "How do ye know a Blackhearter? He's the one sittin' alone in the dark corner of the tavern with the full stein o' mead, an' the broadsword unsheathed on the seat next to 'im, keepin' watch on anyone who looks too close=85" Malemayns, a noble from Arogansa: "Why doesn't the Council just get rid of Blackheart? Well, half of them have towers in the woods there anyway. Even if they didn't, who would ever want to live there? It's just acres of dead forest. Besides, what about all those vicious sorts who live there now? I wouldn't want them moving down here to my neck of the continent. Bring the property value down something fierce. No, I say it's not worth the bother=85= " Posting on a tavern wall in Shraek: "Have sword, will travel. Special rate on assassinations. Contact Kale at the Rotting Spleen tavern, 13 1/2 Bloody Corpse Way." ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:37:21 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "G.P. Agosta" Subject: Re: Alignment Languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Angelo Bertolli wrote: > I don't know what you think about alignment tongues, but I they were always > confusing at best. Well for me, I didn't really care because it's a game > and it's not hard to implement a rule about alignment languages even if it > doesn't make alot of real sense. However, my friend Jeff decided what > these > "alignment languages" actually meant. He decided that chaotic was > street-talk with alot of slang and other un-understandable words to someone > new to the area. (Just read the Lexicon of Theives' Cant > http://members.fortunecity.com/abertoll/dnd/lexicon.txt) > And that lawful was a high-society talk, which used rare vocabulary and > maybe archaic wording in a formal/artsy way. I've never used them. Why should the character be able to recognize someone's alignment just by speaking to them? Your solution is better than the original version. I could see it used on the Savage Coast, with its alignment-based secret societies. Anyway, I'd never give it for free. -- Giampaolo Agosta agathokles@libero.it agosta@fusberta.elet.polimi.it http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message.