========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:17:46 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard?= Subject: Re: Alignment Languages In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Angelo Bertolli wrote: > new to the area. (Just read the Lexicon of Theives' Cant > http://members.fortunecity.com/abertoll/dnd/lexicon.txt) This document was gone when I checked. What happened? H�vard Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc "God created man in his image, and then man returned the favour." -Voltaire ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:28:13 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard?= Subject: Re: Trees of Life and Glantri princely lineages In-Reply-To: <000301c08338$bc6de5e0$7f14ebc3@uchicago.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Andr�s Piquer Otero wrote: > I'm still kinda puzzled about Trees of Life, especially those in Glantri: > according to GAZ3, both Erewan and Alhambra clans have a Tree of Life... the > Erewan tree would come from a sapling of Alfheim (Clan Erendyl I guess), but > what about the Belcadiz Tree??? Does it come from the "United Elven > Principality"? Does a Tree of Life make sense in an elven clan removed from > the ways of the Tree?? Maybe they _cloned_ the Erewan tree? Now IIRC the Clone spell from OD&D states that if the original creature that is cloned isnt dead, then the clone goes mad. What would an insane Tree of Life be like...? > Also, being Trees of Life artifacts (as presented in GAZ5), how is their > presence justified in arreligious Glantri? It is probably not common knowledge that they are around. In any case, they may see them as magical items rather than divine manifestations. > Do you allow Elves from Glantri to follow the Way of the Tree and gain Elven > Wizard levels?? IMC: Elven Wizard levels yes. Elf spells no. Hope that helps :) H�vard Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc "God created man in his image, and then man returned the favour." -Voltaire ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:29:12 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard?= Subject: Re: .3E Mystaran Elves In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Master's Pawn wrote: > Would we be violating any WOtC copyright if someone who has their Gaz5 handy > were to post that elf spell list? The list or the spell descriptions? AFAIK WotC are pretty liberal on this if it is part of a discussion. H�vard Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc "God created man in his image, and then man returned the favour." -Voltaire ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:37:41 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard?= Subject: Re: Languages In-Reply-To: <000a01c083e5$f7187ae0$0414ebc3@uchicago.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Andr�s Piquer Otero wrote: > Well, if Darokinian were not more-or-less close to Thyatian, then most > Darokinians would have to be really blingual as they engage in merchant > activities abroad or in taking care of the many many foreign people carrying > cargo and using the Republic's services... Ofcourse, you should keep in mind that not all Darokinians are merchants. (In spite of the propaganda.) > I don't know if it's too radical, but I could see Darokinian language being > assimilated to Thyatian after brief contact, especially as the nation grew > strong into trade and realized the need of a (sorry for the pun) trade > language with neighbours: Glantri (which also went through an analogue > process of linguistic Thyatianization in their Common) and Thyatis... and > for pre-Stefan Karameikos (in which there was already an incipient Thyatian > commercial presence), do you think that Karameikan Traladaran is more or > less understandable with Darokinian??? Even though Traladarans and Darokinians have an intermixed history and though there still is alot of contact between Darokin and Karameikos, I think that the two languages are as different as Traladaran and Thyatian. Literally. :) > I would say no, I can see Darokinian as RW Venetian Italian: a Thyatian > dialect which keeps quite a lot of Traldar elements (as Venetian used > Byzantine words), so that a Darokinian can "voluntarily lapse into dialect" > and become ununderstandable for foreigners... Traladaran would be kinda > "slavized" version of Old Traldar... Hmmm.. interesting idea, but I dont think I buy that one.. > By the way, how do you handle in your campaigns the dialect issue??? Do you > make them language slots or do you just require a time of exposure for the > PC to master (if he know another dialect of the same language)? can PCs try, > say, Int rolls to understand a thick dialect of an already known language? > in CoM, a couple of characters (Haldemar and Raman) spend language slots to > master the Ambur dialect of Alphatian for literary usage, but that seems to > me kinda extreme! Usually, slots arent required to learn different dialects. I usually dont use die rolls for this either as it gets in the way of roleplaying IMO. If the languages are related or the two dialects are vastly different, I'd just try and express that through roleplaying. I havent done that recently though as my campaign is very local at the moment, but it might be fun! :) H�vard Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc "God created man in his image, and then man returned the favour." -Voltaire ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:58:14 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Joseph Schmitt Subject: Re: What's your Favourite Nation? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit O.K., although I�m usually the quiet listener to this list, I will take the opportunity to vote now: Call me evil, but I�m giving my vote to Alphatia. I just like the wizardry-over-all-other system they use. In my opinion this suits fantastic to a fantastic world like Mystara is. Caroletti wrote: > Yes, I am here again. > Give a vote if you haven't !!! > > VOTES: 91 > > Alfheim: 6 > Alphatia: 8 > Bellayne: 1 > Broken Lands: 1 > Cynidicea: 1 > Darokin: 6,5 > Dunwick: 1 > Ethengar: 3 > Five Shires: 2 > Glantri: 12,5 (Second) > Heldann: 1 > Hule: 2 > Ierendi: 1 > Karameikos: 14,5 (First) > Minrothad: 1 > Nithia: 1 > Northern Reaches: 2,5 > Norwold: 4,5 > Rockhome: 3 > Serraine: 1,5 > Thyatis: 10 (Third) > Shadow Elves: 1,5 > Wendar: 1,5 > Yavdlom: 1 > Ylaruam: 4 > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:59:46 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: shadow Subject: Re: Alignment Languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I checked his website lat week. Seems as if fortunecity doesn�t allow to link to any other file type other then HTML. Or is this only my problem? H�vard wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Angelo Bertolli wrote: > > > new to the area. (Just read the Lexicon of Theives' Cant > > http://members.fortunecity.com/abertoll/dnd/lexicon.txt) > > This document was gone when I checked. What happened? > > H�vard > > Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) > http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc > > "God created man in his image, and then man returned the > favour." -Voltaire > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:12:45 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard?= Subject: Re: I hate Elminster and Stefan In-Reply-To: <3A6893C8.AA4704BE@tin.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Caroletti wrote: [Terari and Stefan] > Now, Alphatians may be evil subtle and manipulative, > but this doesn't justify a man like Stefan, who remains essentially a > traitor. > And this from an unbiased point of view. 8-) hehe...Ooops! Guilio, we have just slipped into that inflamatory thread that made people leave the list not long ago. We should probably leave these thoughts unanswered :) H�vard Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc "God created man in his image, and then man returned the favour." -Voltaire ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:44:19 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard?= Subject: Re: Blackheart Gaz ver. 1 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20010121230331.008092b0@pop.wans.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Andrew Theisen wrote: > After a lengthy delay, here's the mini-Gaz of the Alphatian Kingdom of > Blackheart. Feedback welcome! Cool stuff! :) Belgoroth seems like an interesting character. Also, I liked the inclusion of the Nightmair Elemental in the Uglywoods. Some comments: > Philosophy: > > "Anything goes" would be the national catchphrase of Blackheart� that is, > if it weren't already "Watch your back." The 'kingdom' is truly an anarchy- > the only crimes are assault on king or family (death penalty), damage to > kings property (immediate compensation, can result in death if king angry > enough). Everything else is eminently legal. Everything. I dont really buy this. Even though there are no written laws, there would be unwritten ones. These are ofcourse, easier to change. They could possibly change from day to day, especially, if the ones who enforce the law are replaced that often. But even if this is the case, laws often tend to stay the same. Murder might be legal, but that doesnt mean you can kill anyone and get away with it. It just means that what you can get away with depends on who you are and who you know. A paragraph about this could make the philosophy part a bit more interesting IMHO. > Non-Alphatians often get the wrong impression of Blackheart. Hearing > about the tongue-in-cheek humor the Blackhearts make of Alphatian > nationalism, and the way other Alphatians grumble about the "cruel bastards > of Blackheart" can lead outsiders to think that Blackhearters are > misunderstood, or that the rumors of their evil ways are deceptive, offered > forth by the wounded pride of other Alphatian nations. > They aren't. Every rumor is well deserved. If anything, perhaps the > other Alphatians are too easy on their fellow countrymen. > True, the Blackhearters poke fun at the prideful ways of many other > Alphatians, and scoff at any sense of nationalism, or order, or lawfulness. > Yet there is a vicious undertone to all of their jests that goes far beyond > individuality or rebelliousness. The Blackhearters are just plain mean. > These are people who'd cut out an outsider's vital organs and share a > "hearty" laugh (pun intended). They don't spit in the face of nationalism > and civic pride just to be rebellious- they do it because they're the > toughest, meanest cusses around and they know it. And they don't care if > everyone else knows it, too. This seems a bit stereotypical. Which is probably your inntetion. But seen from the inside, not everyone can be the biggest fish. What happens to the small ones? Are anyone working against these mean bastards? Would that be the PCs? :) Anyone they can rely on at all in this nasty place? > So why does the Empire tolerate them? For one thing, the Blackhearters, > for all their arrogance and disdain, tend to keep to themselves. They don't > go around with chips on their shoulders- they don't have to. Most of them > are in illicit or dangerous lines of work, and to survive in that business, > you've got to refrain from drawing unnecessary attention to yourself. > Secondly, the Blackhearters are a valuable resource to wizards across > the continent. Anytime some dirty work is needed, the archmages know where > to go to find skilled and competent assistance- because no one survives > long in Blackheart if he can't take care of himself. > Then there is the fact that Blackheart is considered a getaway location > for hundreds of the Empire's most prominent wizards. It is one of the few > spots they can go to where they can truly be removed from the outside > world, a valuable asset for reclusive wizards. Only the foolhardy tread the > depths of Blackheart casually. > Finally, for all the embarrassment the Blackhearters may cause > internally in the Empire, their reputation has only helped the image of > imperial Alphatia abroad. H�vard Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc "God created man in his image, and then man returned the favour." -Voltaire ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:34:25 +0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Federico Kaftal Subject: Ogg.: [MYSTARA] Some note on Mystara languages Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 Well... to be honest, Traladaran names to me resemble a mixture of Bulgarian/Russian AND Rumenian languages: however, these two languages are BOTH related to Latin (Thyatian): the first as its "cousin", the second as a "child". Federico Il Sun, 21 January 2001, eikab ha scritto: > > Some note on Mystara languages > > Because the player an the masters of Mystara generally try to accord the mystarian's language at the real wolrd, ever borns some problem. We can disagree with this habit but a critic isn't useful: that being, is (Hegel docet). > Well, the most problematic language in Mystara to according to the RW is, just to changing, the traladarans. > We have tree chances. > > 1) The east european toungues, such as russian and bulgarian. Jennifer Guerra, has indicates them in her traladar mini-gazetter (see the site). But these have only penalities, because this languages are far away from the latin/thyathian stocks. Only if the traladar dessceand from the nithian, the can according this, but in real wolrd this is not true. > > 2) The ungharian. This language was born by the fusion of the ungarian tongues of the east asia and the germanic laguages of the north europe (longobard), without intromission of any tounges, slave or latin. In effect the modern magjaornsak language doesn't resemble to any european languages. If the traldarans languages was perform in the dark ages of this civilation the can use it, but this gives a lot of other problems. > > 3) the rumeno. Is the best. Because it is of the family of the neo-latins languages, and find a canon according with the Gazetter of Karameikos with the names of the NPC'S. > > farewell > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. AltaVista Free email service ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:50:47 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: DM Subject: Artifacts of Mystara Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Congrats to Michael Diem for his thorough list, altho I may not agree on some of the placements.. ;) Anyway, I am familiar with most of the names, but these really sound completely new, so if you want to enlighten me telling me where did u find them (adventure module/sourcebook..): Cap of Mala Kingdom of Grimm Plume of Fidias Tome of Gambia Carpet of Millicent Illiric's Nose Hand of Kindness Vulcania Crystal Feather of Nyggg (W of I) Crown of Ka (W o I) Serpent Sceptre (W o I) Throne of the Malformed King (W o I) Sword of Ahmed Khel Hule Sword of Canopa Magden, Hule Sword of Lopra Suthus Sword of Falcon Kron Wheel of Infinite Travel Risilvar Redface (Int Sword) Thunderdelve Mt Hammer of Vitroin Thunderdelve Mt Pearl of Destruction Ierendi City Selbrinor's Wavestone Fletcher Reef, Shire Coast Sword of Morphos Blight Swamp I wouldn't call Scorbane, Finder or any other intelligent sword an "artifact" in the "real" sense of the term (ie an object created by Immortals through the use of PP). Also, the Black Vessel is not an artifact, since this is only a prison for a crimson mist horror, and the Black stick is merely a staff with Animate Dead charges. U forgot the Black staff of the Carnifex in the Pits of Banishment (now in Denagoth), the Sword of Sylaire (it's not an artifact either, but man, that's a real prize!), the Ring of Eibon and the Circled mirror of the viper of Averoigne (X2) Anyway, nice work! DM Senior Editor of the Mystaran Almanac First Officer of U.S.S. Unicorn "You don't stop playing because you grow old: you grow old because you stop playing!" Visit Marco's Mystara Homepage at: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Dungeon/2967 And Mystara Italian Homepage at: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Dungeon/9940 Join the Mystara Webring at: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Dungeon/2967/mystring.html Join the Starfleet Academy at: http://gioco.net/startrek (Italian RPG PBEM) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:49:20 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Paul George Dooley Subject: Re: Magic & War Machine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I was thinking more of fireballs and lightning bolts > flying overhead and ocationally being "redirected" by > those lovely mages on the other side (thats the rules > I would use at least) > Whilst there may be such occasionally from sergeants and officers IIRC there aren't any large groups fielded with more than three levels of experience. > I think it would be obvious or at least decernable, > and so our opinions will always differ on this. > Obvious gets you killed, discernable is possible via use of magic or close range visual scrutiny. However if they actually are capable of acting as a sling unit that's harder too, but since we seem to disagree on wether they're a military formation or a group of individuals the relative ease of such will differ wildly depending who's running the game. ;^) > And once again proving that they are NOT the almighty > key to winning a battle, just a cog that the machine > can be designed to work without. If you make all the > other cogs better you can compensate for the removal > of this one. > I never actually said they were the almighty key though, merely pointed out how touse them to improve other forces sucesses on the field. If the enemy has al the same blocks as you have plus the use of magic on his side all things being equal they'll usually win. Don't just ignore the capabilities as irrelevant unless you want to lose > > Opinion again. Since in Alphatias case the > > majority of the mages in the > > army would be the offspring of those who aren't > > nobility this is the only > > place for them to gain such knowledge. > > this is arguable. > Either there are thousands of children of nobles who decide to join the military in Glantri and Alphatia, or there are those who join to get magical training. Occam's Razor gives us a preponderance of the latter, as do some of your own arguements as to the individuality of the mages in units. > > At best they'll be gentry so just get an officer > > who's nobility to > > crucify a couple for disobeying orders. > > IIRC from DotE all mages in alphatia are arictocracy. > Sorry I was thinking of Glantri where if you don't have a title you rank lower, but even in Alphatia the pressure when a Lord tells you what to do will in most cases be more than sufficient. > for common troops yes, but for mages I think that is a > whole different barrel of fish, IMO. > So we differ. I think that my version has a greater credibility though, but that's just IMNSHO! >;^)~ > well ligistics of what works is really up to the DM > and my ruling would be no go, yours clearly differs. > I'm basing mine on what's known of their transport and usage on Earth. Barrels for shipping in, and the dangers of normal fire upon the volatiles within their vessel when ready for usage. Either the elemental is solid enough to pick up the vessels and throw them down, or it's made of highly magical fire, so WHUMPFH! > which of course would have been cast on him by another > mage, and they rely on the fact that the sniper cannot > detect invisible, but to be safe there's a bunch of > invisible guys and a bunch of snipers.... come on it's > a battle, these things are just stuff people try and > often make little difference IMO. To me it is the > tactics and how you commit your large bodies of troops > and where. Also it is the higher level spells once > again that cause the strife not the unit of mages. > Remember where this came from you wanted to take out the mages with your artillery so I used one spell from an officer to neutralise it after it got to the field. if this was actually a battle it would have been totalled several hours ago. BTW don't forget it could be items used by thelow level mages causing the elemental in the first place. Since I can use those same mages to stop you commiting troops where you want to, sometimes even causing routing troops to flee back through your lines due to the same thing causing further disruption etc. I can happily field such a unit to great effect > The Elemental still has to be controled was my point, > according to their description, not the means of > summoning. > Not if it's via the druidical version, then they want to be helpful and just go and do as you ask. Again no need to actually have such a high level caster on the field just a scroll or magic item will suffice. > an advantage that is not the be all and end all. King > Darius lost to Alexander the great because he believed > in his chariots too much. don't trust in one thing > that the other side doesn't have because it don't work > like that, you have to co-ordinate it all, and the > person who does it better wins. Not just I'll kick > your ass with my mages. IMO mages are an unreliable > weapon. Good soldiers are not. > There's that distinction again they can be both you know. Imperial Boltmen spring readily to mind. Why do you keep trying to make me out to be saying that I won't be using them as part of a coordinated strategy BTW. One of the very first things said was that I use them to make other units more effective, not field them as a complete unit on their own (in most cases of course ;^) ). > > When not folowing orders will lead to loss of > > hands and/or tongue, and > > hence magical ability, at the least I'm sure that > > very few will be stepping > > out of line. This actually improves the morale of > > other troops since they > > see that whilst military mages may get better > > treated they also get severely > > punished. > > interesting point and could work well, or really badly > depending on exact circumstances. > Since the nations which field mages have done so for hundreds of years, and stories of such things are told by veterans to the greenies, actual occurrence of such extreme measures will be fairly infrequent. Things like enforced gagging and mittens as well as the lashes or whatever any other soldier gets would be enough. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:05:19 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Geoff Gander Subject: Re: List of Artifacts Interesting list, but here's another one: The Graldara, Niscosenia, Davania. Geoff -- Geoff Gander, BA 97 Cartographer/Game Designer/Government Peon Carnifex Loremaster au998@freenet.carleton.ca : www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Realm/2091 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:12:40 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Geoff Gander Subject: Re: Languages Agathokles tabled: Interesting chart! I would add that, based on a discussion I once had with Bruce Heard, Eusdrian is supposed to be the equivalent of the RW Saxon language (ie: the Saxon invasions of Britain following AD450 or so), with Eusdria being the M-Saxon England. Robrenn is supposed to be based on Gaul, so Ranax would be Gallic (sp?). Geoff -- Geoff Gander, BA 97 Cartographer/Game Designer/Government Peon Carnifex Loremaster au998@freenet.carleton.ca : www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Realm/2091 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:16:39 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Geoff Gander Subject: Re: Languages I've always thought that Darokinian would be more of a patois, sort of like what's spoken in Minrothad. Perhaps the base is Thyatian, with a strong Traladaran influence (from the people who fled there following the initial Thyatian invasion of Traladara around AC 900 - as per GAZ11), with some Ylari loan words in the east (especially around Selenica). Underneath it all, however, would be whatever language was spoken by the Neathar-descended peoples who lived there originally (Ansel Darokin and his bunch, who were not Thyatian IIRC). There may be a possibility of the odd orcish loan word, too, due to the constant frictions with them, as well as the odd elvish word (due to centuries of contact). Geoff -- Geoff Gander, BA 97 Cartographer/Game Designer/Government Peon Carnifex Loremaster au998@freenet.carleton.ca : www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Realm/2091 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:22:32 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Geoff Gander Subject: Re: Languages Greg wrote: >1) Isn't Heldannic (or Heldann, depending on how you want to call it) the >language spoken by the northmen in Heldann, Vestland, Oostland, Soderfjord, >and parts of norwold (each with differnet dialects possibly), as well as the >humans of wendar (I'd imagine the later was heavily influenced by the elvish >dialects of Wendar). That's what it says in the PWAs, anyway. I would assume the Heldannic Knights appropriated the name to add further legitimacy to what they were doing in the area. >The Heldannic Knights, coming (mostly) from Hattias speak Hattian, correct? Yep, but even the PWAs mention that a fair portion of the indigenous Heldanners have been assimilated, though a resistance movement does exist. >2) (this one is for everyone) The language of Oceansend.... It's a Thyatian >colony (originally) correct? But it has many northmen too right? So do >they speak Heldann/Heldannic or Thyatian or both or something else entirely? >(I don't at the moment have my PWA's readily accesible at the moment.) I would think that Thyatian would be the language spoken there, but Heldannic (or Heldanner, whatever - the proper language of the Heldanner people) would also be commonly spoken, and may have added its own words into the Oceansender dialect of Thyatian. Geoff -- Geoff Gander, BA 97 Cartographer/Game Designer/Government Peon Carnifex Loremaster au998@freenet.carleton.ca : www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Realm/2091 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:28:25 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Geoff Gander Subject: Re: Languages Stalker wrote: >I would presume that many speak Antalian as well, but that's my own conclusion (many Alphatian, too, given how long it was under Alphatian control) Hmm...going by what I remember from DotE, Oceansend never became aprt of Norwold - formally, anyway. They seceded from the Thyatian Empire during the Spike Assault of AC 960, and the empire never tried to reclaim them (too busy with the IoD, the Hinterlands, and other concerns, I'd imagine). Since that time, Oceansend was a city-state. I remember reading in the DM's book somewhere that the Oceansender king (can't remember his name, Yarrvik, I think) had received entreaties and other diplomatic pressures from Ericall to swear fealty to him, but had never done so as of AC1000. Nevertheless, there likely would have been some Alphatians living there, so the language could have been spoken in the city. Geoff -- Geoff Gander, BA 97 Cartographer/Game Designer/Government Peon Carnifex Loremaster au998@freenet.carleton.ca : www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Realm/2091 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 16:42:47 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "G.P. Agosta" Subject: Re: Languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Geoff Gander wrote: > Agathokles tabled: > > > > Interesting chart! Thanks :) > I would add that, based on a discussion I once had with Bruce Heard, > Eusdrian is supposed to be the equivalent of the RW Saxon language (ie: > the Saxon invasions of Britain following AD450 or so), with Eusdria being > the M-Saxon England. Ok. > Robrenn is supposed to be based on Gaul, so Ranax > would be Gallic (sp?). Yes, though I wouldn't be able to say what difference there is between, say, Ranax and Thratian. Perhaps the latter is more modeled on Gaelic? -- Giampaolo Agosta agathokles@libero.it agosta@fusberta.elet.polimi.it http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:40:04 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Geoff Gander Subject: Re: Languages Andres wrote: >By the way, how do you handle in your campaigns the dialect issue??? Do you >make them language slots or do you just require a time of exposure for the >PC to master (if he know another dialect of the same language)? can PCs try, >say, Int rolls to understand a thick dialect of an already known language? >in CoM, a couple of characters (Haldemar and Raman) spend language slots to >master the Ambur dialect of Alphatian for literary usage, but that seems to >me kinda extreme! IMC, if a PC speaks a given language, he or she can also understand the various dialects of it, so long as they are not too far removed - otherwise an Intelligence check would be required. I also factor in the time of separation between the languages - a dialect that has had no contact with its mother tongue for many generations might be better thought of as a language unto itself, IMO. Thus, a PC who speaks, say, the Kastelian dialect of modern Milenian, could understand the Milenian dialects of Mivosia and Ilioloosti, but he or she would know the differences in the dialects, and if he or she has had exposure to them they could recognise where a person was from based on their dialect with an Int check: "I recognised him for the Mivosian that he was; they give themselves away so easily, with their clipped tones and contracted vowels - almost as though they were in a hurry." (successful Int check to determine origin) "Polakatsikes? I thought she was from Ilioloosti! Ah well, those outlanders never knew how to speak properly, anyway; they all sound the same to me." (failed check) Following the above example, the PC who speaks Kastelian Milenian, if he or she went to HW Milenia, would probably have to learn classic Milenian as an extra language slot - roughly 1000 years separate the two languages. I might, however, allow the PC to pick out the odd word here or there with a successful Int check, but usually not enough to strong together a decent sentence or two. That would be like me trying to speak the Old English of "Beowulf". Hope this helps, Geoff -- Geoff Gander, BA 97 Cartographer/Game Designer/Government Peon Carnifex Loremaster au998@freenet.carleton.ca : www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Realm/2091 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 16:45:34 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "G.P. Agosta" Subject: Re: Artifacts of Mystara MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DM wrote: > > Anyway, I am familiar with most of the names, but these really sound > completely new, so if you want to enlighten me telling me where did u find > them (adventure module/sourcebook..): > > Pearl of Destruction Ierendi City Eh, eh, this was in Ierendi Gaz. There's a pirate who use this item to destroy ships, so he can plunder them. IIRC, the PCs find the Pearl in a fish which crumbles to dust. -- Giampaolo Agosta agathokles@libero.it agosta@fusberta.elet.polimi.it http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:41:38 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Piquer_Otero?= Subject: Re: Alignment Languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit IMC, I keep alignment languages with a caveat: they can be used to communicate only between characters which share a common "normal" language, and some degree of culture... it is then a mix of "body language" and catchphrases, and can be similar to a kind of slang, but without social class division (alignment goes cross-class): for instance, "having a lab accident" would be a Chaotic catchphrase for Glantrian background... it would only work for Glantrian characters of that alignment (or those of other places which are Chaotic and have hung around in Glantrian society for quite a deal of time). I don't know how each alignment would look like, I thought of Chaos as some kind of mafia-like ironies and grisly jokes/euphemisms; Neutral could be similar to fake British wit and irony, in the mood of "it's so nice to see you" when body language is conveying the contrary... and Lawful, wow, I'm lost there, maybe it's double meaning in normal-looking words which point to greater ends... there are a couple of studies on RW Latin in the time of the Empire, and they show that Christians and non-Christians used a bunch of words with radically different meanings, as Latin words changed nuances through Christian thought... when I read them a couple years ago I thought that could be used for alignment language... Andr�s ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 16:12:02 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard?= Subject: Re: Alignment Languages In-Reply-To: <002401c08481$cac17ea0$1714ebc3@uchicago.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Andr�s Piquer Otero wrote: > IMC, I keep alignment languages with a caveat: they can be used to > communicate only between characters which share a common "normal" language, > and some degree of culture... it is then a mix of "body language" and > catchphrases, and can be similar to a kind of slang, but without social > class division (alignment goes cross-class): for instance, "having a lab > accident" would be a Chaotic catchphrase for Glantrian background... it > would only work for Glantrian characters of that alignment (or those of > other places which are Chaotic and have hung around in Glantrian society for > quite a deal of time). I don't know how each alignment would look like, I > thought of Chaos as some kind of mafia-like ironies and grisly > jokes/euphemisms; Neutral could be similar to fake British wit and irony, in > the mood of "it's so nice to see you" when body language is conveying the > contrary... and Lawful, wow, I'm lost there, maybe it's double meaning in > normal-looking words which point to greater ends... there are a couple of > studies on RW Latin in the time of the Empire, and they show that Christians > and non-Christians used a bunch of words with radically different meanings, > as Latin words changed nuances through Christian thought... when I read them > a couple years ago I thought that could be used for alignment language... Maybe lawful alignment language can be based on Communist Newspeak? Can't really give you any good examples off-hand, but I think the concept fits. It would be like you said: old words with new meanings. OTOH, I still think the alignment tongues should be ditched. languages based on _other_ things than nationality/ethnicity isnt neccesarily a bad idea though. H�vard Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc "God created man in his image, and then man returned the favour." -Voltaire ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:16:02 +0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Federico Kaftal Subject: Ogg.: Re: [MYSTARA] Alignment Languages Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 Ok, friends: let's be honest: alignment languages were a flop! They've ALWAYS been a flop, since the Basic rules: a major bug - something really ridiculous and impossible to explain/defend under rational terms. But nonetheless they were never abandoned in further products - dunno why! My advice: ignore them! Federico Il Mon, 22 January 2001, "G.P. Agosta" ha scritto: > > Angelo Bertolli wrote: > > > I don't know what you think about alignment tongues, but I they were always > > confusing at best. Well for me, I didn't really care because it's a game > > and it's not hard to implement a rule about alignment languages even if it > > doesn't make alot of real sense. However, my friend Jeff decided what > > these > > "alignment languages" actually meant. He decided that chaotic was > > street-talk with alot of slang and other un-understandable words to someone > > new to the area. (Just read the Lexicon of Theives' Cant > > http://members.fortunecity.com/abertoll/dnd/lexicon.txt) > > And that lawful was a high-society talk, which used rare vocabulary and > > maybe archaic wording in a formal/artsy way. > > I've never used them. Why should the character be able to recognize > someone's alignment just by speaking to them? > Your solution is better than the original version. I could see it used > on the Savage Coast, with its alignment-based secret societies. Anyway, > I'd never give it for free. > -- > > > Giampaolo Agosta > > > agathokles@libero.it > agosta@fusberta.elet.polimi.it > http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. AltaVista Free email service ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 17:37:56 +0200 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Solmyr Subject: Re: Mystara 3E PBEM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aaron E Nowack wrote: > > I'm curious. How many people out there would be interested in a Mystara > PBEM using 3E rules? > > I could probably find the time to run one, but I'd vastly prefer > playing, as I never get a chance to play face-to-face (I'm the only > person in my group with any interest at all in DM'ing). > I'd be interested, but I'd also have to be a player, I'm DMing lots of stuff already and I barely ever get to play :) -- ****************** Aleksei Andrievski aka Solmyr, Archmage of the Azure Star solmyr@kolumbus.fi http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Fortress/2198/index.html ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:24:14 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Andrew Theisen Subject: Re: Blackheart Gaz ver. 1 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:44 PM 1/22/01 +0100, you wrote: > >Cool stuff! :) Belgoroth seems like an interesting character. Also, I >liked the inclusion of the Nightmair Elemental in the Uglywoods. Thanks! It seemed odd to me that the "Misanthrope" Hugorth would ever drop progeny, considering that it requires another person to share in the act of procreation, and Aaron Allston's description of Belgoroth in PWA 1010 seemed almost to lend itself to him being "unnatural", so I went with that. The Nightmair elemental, Shaddoth, is a pretty nasty character. One of these days I'll get around to doing a complete stat writeup on him. >Even though there are no written laws, there would be unwritten ones. >These are ofcourse, easier to change. They could possibly change from day >to day, especially, if the ones who enforce the law are replaced that >often. But even if this is the case, laws often tend to stay the same. >Murder might be legal, but that doesnt mean you can kill anyone and get >away with it. It just means that what you can get away with depends on who >you are and who you know. Hmm... I hadn't really thought about this. There are probably agents of enforcement (legal or otherwise) in the city; perhaps factions that "rule" different areas. The philosophy section doesn't lend itself to a massive overview, but you raise an interesting point. I'll try and expand on this for ver. 1.2 >This seems a bit stereotypical. Which is probably your inntetion. >But seen from the inside, not everyone can be the biggest fish. What >happens to the small ones? Are anyone working against these mean bastards? >Would that be the PCs? :) >Anyone they can rely on at all in this nasty place? Yes, and no. :) As you mention, it's a bit of a stereotype- just a general description to give an overview of the "national" character, as it were. Are there some in the city who are more trustworthy and reliable than others? Yes, not everyone is a hardcore, brutal mercenary... just most of them. There would be some organizations and people they could turn to more than others. I was going to include one such "organization", but it may come to light in another format that I've been toying with. I might include something along these lines in ver. 1.2, even if not the particular group I'm thinking of. Thanks for the commentary! ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 20:45:29 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: Artifacts of Mystara MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Illiric's Nose I remember it! It is mentioned in IM2 ! Iliric appeared originally as an Immortal pre.generated PC!!!!!!! > the Sword of Sylaire (it's not an artifact either, but man, > that's a real prize!), the Ring of Eibon and the Circled mirror of the > viper of Averoigne (X2) > They got all destroyed in X2, so why should he mention them? 8-) Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 16:20:36 EST Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Master's Pawn Subject: Re: .3E Mystaran Elves Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The list, because iI would be interested in 1)having it since my Gaz is in an attic somewhere, and 2)trying my hand at adopting the list to 3E for Mystara elves. I always liked that list, as it set Alfhiem elves apart from old AD&D Fighter/M-Us. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 17:57:42 -0600 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: M Novy Subject: Re: Mystara 3E PBEM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I would definitely be interested in a PBEM. I have never done that before but i'm up for it. As long as i just have to email daily or something like that. Mike _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 04:04:18 -0200 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Andre Martins Subject: Re: Mystara 3E PBEM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Solmyr > Aaron E Nowack wrote: > > > > I'm curious. How many people out there would be interested in a Mystara > > PBEM using 3E rules? > > > > I could probably find the time to run one, but I'd vastly prefer > > playing, as I never get a chance to play face-to-face (I'm the only > > person in my group with any interest at all in DM'ing). > > > I'd be interested, but I'd also have to be a player, I'm DMing lots of > stuff already and I barely ever get to play :) (going out of my lurking state for a brief while) I had set some time aside to DM a PBEM, but it seems that game will be, at best, moving at a MUCH slower pace than I was expecting. Therefore, I think I can find the time to run this game, if enough people are interested. Just email me privatelly and we will see what we can come up with. Andr� Martins acrmartins@globo.com.br ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 22:15:57 +0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "Francisco V. Navarro" Subject: Night Out in Glantri (1/6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hail Mystaran! May I present a tale about the City of Canals! Kit Navarro ========== Night Out in Glantri By Kit Navarro Part I AC 1016. Glantri City. "It's a Nytdain night, Sean! We have to go out!" cried the young Krondaharan. "Yeah, Sean," echoed the other Krondaharan, younger than the first, but taller and larger in build. "A night out on the town is in order! Let's go out and have some fun!" Sean McAllister studied the two Krondaharans who had invaded his city apartments, just across the Great School of Magic. They were both Virayanas, cousins of sorts, though their physical differences even made that hard to believe. Their fathers were half-brothers and themselves cousins-or half-cousins-to the recently deceased Prince Jherek Virayana IV. Despite their princely lineage, they were far from inheritors to the throne of Krondahar. And a good thing too, thought Sean. The elder of the two, Goibban, was irresponsible and hedonistic, while Orkajin, was a bit slow in the head and preferred the sword to the wand. Sean kept their company because they were amiable enough, but more importantly, because they could afford the same kind of fun that appealed to Sean and other decadent Glantrian nobles . He did not think much of their character. "Sean's idea of fun will probably get you jailed in the Tower of Sighs for a fortnight, or expelled from the Great School-but then again, considering how poor your grades are, you can do that on your own." Goibban and Orkajin tried to protest this insult, but could not think of a quick retort. They simultaneous turned their faces to their detractor, Goibban with a sneer, Orkajin with his mouth gawking open. Sean turned to study the third young man in this little intrusion of his private quarters. He sat by the window, thoughtlessly browsing through one of Sean's many old, unread books. The light of the moon was caught in his golden-brown hair, the magical light of the room in his sapphire blue eyes. His features were handsome and manly, but his skin was smooth and flawless like a boy's. Patric des Ximes came from the Averoignian town of the same name. Though not noble, Patric was distinctly more aristocratic and of nobler sensibilities than Sean's other two guests. Not only that, but behind Patric's striking features was an intelligent mind superior to most Glantrian wizards Sean had met. And behind that keen mind? Sean wondered what secrets and passions lay beneath. Sean actually liked Patric's company-definitely more so than that of Goibban and Orkajin-and yet Patric always remained aloof, even disdainful of Sean's attentions. "What sort of fun would you have, Patric?" Sean coaxed. "Oh, I wouldn't mind, really. Anything you would like." Sean was unsure if that was a challenge-or an enticement. "Prince Urmahid has a party tonight! We should go!" Orkajin suggested. "Ummm. Rejladan would be there. And after our last ball, I don't think ." Goibban muttered. Orkajin's face went blank. "Your guest." Goibban reminded impatiently. Orkajin's face remained blank. "The lady you met at the." Orkajin's face was still a blank. Goibban put his hands above his head, wriggling his fingers like little worms, and made a terrifying mock scowl at Orkajin. "Oh!" Orkajin replied-finally. Goibban gave an exasperated sigh of relief. "Well, I didn't know she was a medusa!" protested the big lug. "Yehah! Not even after she petrified our gondolier, two guardsmen, the herald, three servants, four guests, and one very unlucky familiar! She even poisoned Ralindi's valet and would have gotten the rest of his entourage, if I hadn't pointed out the serpents sticking out of her headdress!" "Well, it was your idea to bring her along." grumbled Orkajin defensively. "Boys! Boys! Please!" Sean scolded. He had just had about it with their endless, mindless prattle. "We will not go to anymore Krondaharan parties," Sean ordered, "or any other party some hobnobbing, kibitzing, playing genteel Glantrian noble." Sean took a more commanding, somewhat bullying manner. In the corner of his eye, he could see Patric smile. "Besides, I am sick of Urmahid's insipid ideas of extravagance." "So," Patric inquired, his sudden interest and charming smile taking Sean aback, "where do you plan to go?" Sean managed to smile back at Patrick-that naughty, slightly sinister, impish smile he was known for-and boldly replied, "The Bastet!" ========== ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 22:17:08 +0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "Francisco V. Navarro" Subject: Night Out in Glantri (2/6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Night Out in Glantri By Kit Navarro Part II "But the lines are so long! They go all around the block!" exclaimed Orkajin from the gondola. Sean had given up answering Orkajin's question after the fourteenth time he asked if they had arrived at the Bastet. "Of course," Goibban explained with all the seriousness of a Master at the Great School, elucidating a complicated principle of magic, "it's the most popular club in the city these days." Sean was simply amazed at how Goibban could make a prosaic commonplace piece of trivia-which he had only learned about half an hour ago-seem such a profound revelation of cosmic knowledge and philosophical truth. Then again, Sean thought, considering his audience, it wouldn't be difficult. "Why are they dressed comme �a?" Patric asked-the first intelligent question that night, as far as Sean remembered-referring to the elaborate animal-shaped masks and headdresses that the would-be clientele of the Bastet were wearing. "The owner of the Bastet is an aficionado of ancient Nithia-" Sean answered. "-and he requires his guests to take the form of the ancient Nithian Immortals," Patric continued, reading Sean's mind and displaying the impressive contents of his own. "So, Sean," asked Goibban, "why are they dressed up like beast-men?" "Do we have to dress up like that too?" Before Sean was submerged in a sea of stupid questions, their gondola thankfully came to a stop, near the end of the line of the Bastet's patrons. Patric had hopped out of the boat without waiting for his slower companions. Sean followed and strode deliberately to the start of the line. "What about the line, Sean?" Goibban called out. Sean continued on his willful walk and without turning back said, "We are not going to line up." At the entrance of the Bastet stood a tall, muscular, black rakasta, dressed in the outfit of a Nithian pharaoh. The rakasta surveyed the milling crowd carefully, and seemed to serve as both the bouncer and the arbiter of which guest to allow into the club. Sean made his way through the pathetic hopefuls (nothing like a good stinking cloud spell to part a crowd!) and stepped right up to the rakasta. His entrance would have been perfect if Goibban and Orkajin had not bungled into him Gaining his composure and puffing himself full of pomp, Sean addressed the wary rakasta. "Good sir, my companions and I would like to go in," Sean said matter-of-factly. The rakasta pinned his ears down and growled a decidedly unfriendly feral growl. Goibban, who was pressed behind Sean and had his face at Sean's shoulder, whispered into his ear, "Ummm. Sean. the. she." At that point, Sean noticed that the rakasta's breastplate had full, curvaceous, womanly breasts. "My apologies, milady!" Sean said in good-natured insincere cheer. "My friends and I would like to go into the club now, madam!" The rakasta scrutinized the young fops and with a feline voice meowed out, "No!" Sean was taken aback not so much of the outright rejection-The Bastet is, of course, the most exclusive of clubs, and Sean well knew that some of his companion are underage-but at the blatant air of impunity that the rakasta doorman (doorwoman? doorcat?) had. Beside Sean, Patric began to move away, disinterested-whether of the club or Sean's abilities of getting them in, Sean did not know. Sean decided, it was time to break some rules-and to break them with flair � la Glantrian Wizard. "Do you know who I am?" Sean shouted at the rakasta "I am Sean McGregor! Grandson of Prince Brannart McGregor of Klantyre! Son of Marquis Alasdair McAllister of Dunvegan! Cousin to the present Prince of Klantyre! Heir to the throne of both Klantyre and of Dunvegan!" "Mrreow! You cannot come in without a mask. And I can tell that your companions are underage." Sean cranked up the self-righteous indignance, false as it may be. Puffing himself up and raising his voice to imperious level, Sean boomed, "You dare turn down a Glantrian wizard? A scion of a noble house? A future Prince of Glantri!?" The rakasta, cool as a cat, merely repeated, "You cannot come in without a mask. And I can tell that your companions are underage. Mrreow!" With Sean not willing to back down on his pompous bluff and the rakasta not caring any less, a stalemate was about to ensue. Suddenly, a tall, slim man, wearing a debonair night-black cloak and a beautiful golden bull mask, strode up to the rakasta guard. "Felice, my dear," he said, his voice hauntingly handsome, "Forgive my companions' impulsiveness. These young gentlemen are with me. We will get masks inside." The rakasta's face softened, her ears and whiskers relaxing. A handful of ducats from the captivating bull-man it easier for her to yield to his charms. Felice let the gentleman in. Sean and Patric did not hesitate to enter after him. Even the two Krondaharans were, for once, quick to follow. ========== ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 22:18:38 +0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "Francisco V. Navarro" Subject: Night Out in Glantri (3/6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Night Out in Glantri By Kit Navarro Part III The foyer of the Bastet was shadowed in half-light. Its stone walls and false columns were engraved with hieroglyphics. An enchantment to dampen the noise from the outside and silence the sounds from the inside of the club created the atmosphere that the guests were inside a Nithian tomb or necropolis. The gentleman in the golden bull mask walked confidently towards an out of sight stairway. He has obviously been to the Bastet before. After a few steps, he turned to the young wizards, the ruby eyes of his mask faintly glowing, and with that charming voice beckoned them, "Come. This way." Sean was at once apprehensive. But Patric seemed utterly enthralled by the mysterious stranger and promptly obeyed. Sean had no choice but to follow. The darkened stairway lead to a landing. Against both walls stood four statues of the cat-headed Immortal poised serenely on a Nithian throne. In between two of these statues was a booth, manned by a woman wearing a similar cat mask. On the wall behind her hung a dozen or so masks of falcons, jackals, lions, crocodiles, baboons, ibises, and other creatures of Nithian myth. "Bonsoir, monsieur!" the cat-lady greeted. "Voulez-vous des masques?" "Bonsoir, mademoiselle!" the bull-man replied with an impeccable Sylaire accent. He turned to his two young companions and, from out of nowhere, produced a mask of a jackal head. "Bon, I already have a spare one here," he said, waving the black velvet mask in front of Patric, like a Sindhi snake charmer would to hypnotize a cobra. Patric, entranced, took the mask and put it on his head. Its eyes of green emeralds glowed with a light of its own. The gentleman in the bull mask turned to Sean, then to the hostess behind the booth. "My young friend here would be in need of one." His voice was suave and smooth. Sean could not help but be aroused-and chilled. Sean was suddenly shaken out of his reverie (Did he just fall into a trance?) when the cat-lady thrust a falcon-headed mask towards him. It was made of papier-m�ch� and tinsel and sequins, but was more ornate than those of Patric's and their unknown sponsor. Sean reached into his pocket to pay for the mask (with wood chips enchanted to look like gold ducats, of course!), but the bull-headed gentleman stayed him. "Non, mon bel ami, I insist." Sean was in a daze as the amount was settled between the mask seller and the bull-man. All he could think of was how firm and yet soft-and chilling-the gentleman's grip was. Like a rude awakening, the two bumbling Krondaharans bumped into Sean from in the semi-darkness. "Where did you get that Rad-awful mask, Sean?" asked Goibban. Sean could feel a mounting pain in his shoulder. He realized that the hulking Orkajin was grasping on to him tighter and tighter. "Let me go, you fool! What are you doing, for Rad's sake!" Sean lashed out. "Oh," Goibban replied for his less than brilliant cousin, "he just got spooked downstairs! He thought he heard a mummy or something." Sean expected Orkajin to protest stupidly again, but the big dope appeared to be genuinely scared. Sean did manage to wrench his shoulder out of the Krondaharan's vice grip. "Hey, Sean, where did, Patric and Lord Minotaur go?" asked Goibban, single-mindedly oblivious to anything going on. Sean had to turn. Beyond the landing was another flight of stairs upward, leading to a doorway, which (Didn't he just see them?) lead to the inner chamber of the club. Music and the drone of voices emanated from the door. Like walking in a dream, Sean had an image in his mind of Lord Minotaur leading jackal-headed Patric by the hand through that door-but it seemed like a distant memory rather than a recent recall of events he had just witnessed. "I must go in," Sean said apprehensively and yet urgently, donning the falcon-head mask. "Don't leave me here!" wailed Orkajin like a hapless baby. "Come on you!" commanded Goibban, but they were stopped by the sultry cat-headed hostess, who had stepped out from behind their booth. Apparently, the unobservant youths had not seen her till then. "Boys," she said, sounding both seductive and condescending, "You will need masks to enter the club." In her hands, she already had two to offer them, one of a baboon, the other of a hippopotamus. "Thank you, milady," Goibban said hurriedly. "You must pay for them," the cat-lady reminded. "How much?" Goibban asked, reaching for his purse. "Twenty ducats." "Twenty ducats?! Why that's." "Apiece." "What?!" protested Goibban. His purse only contained twenty-odd gold pieces, the rest were silver and copper. Sheepishly, Orkajin said, "I won't have enough money to eat and go home if." "Sean," Goibban called out to his friend who was already at the top of the stairs. Sean turned his falcon head and threw down his own purse (containing another twenty or so pieces of magically disguised tokens). He opened the doors to the inner chamber and entered. ========== ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:10:57 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Angelo Bertolli Subject: Re: Alignment Languages Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I've been having a real problem with fortune city... if anyone wants the lexicon, just email me privately and I'll send it to you, it's pretty big. Angelo Bertolli From: H�vard Subject: Re: Alignment Languages Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:17:46 +0100 On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Angelo Bertolli wrote: >new to the area. (Just read the Lexicon of Theives' Cant >http://members.fortunecity.com/abertoll/dnd/lexicon.txt) This document was gone when I checked. What happened? H�vard Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc "God created man in his image, and then man returned the favour." -Voltaire >From: Automatic digest processor >Reply-To: Mystara >To: Recipients of MYSTARA-L digests >Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 21 Jan 2001 to 22 Jan 2001 (#2001-22) >Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 00:00:11 -0800 > ><< message2.txt >> ><< message4.txt >> ><< message6.txt >> ><< message8.txt >> ><< message10.txt >> ><< message12.txt >> ><< message14.txt >> ><< message16.txt >> ><< message18.txt >> ><< message20.txt >> ><< message22.txt >> ><< message24.txt >> ><< message26.txt >> ><< message29.txt >> ><< message32.txt >> ><< message35.txt >> ><< message38.txt >> ><< message41.txt >> ><< message44.txt >> ><< message47.txt >> ><< message50.txt >> ><< message52.txt >> ><< message54.txt >> ><< message56.txt >> ><< message59.txt >> ><< message61.txt >> ><< message63.txt >> ><< message65.txt >> ><< message67.txt >> _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 19:29:38 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "paul.benfield" Subject: Re: Mystara 3E PBEM In-Reply-To: <20010121.235527.-588625.9.anowack@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Aaron, I'd be interested in joining a 3E game if there's room. At the moment I'd only consider playing as I've never played an PBEM before, (though I lurk in one currently). In the future I'd be more than willing to have a go at DMing if needed however. I can check my email on a daily basis but I live in the UK, so there might be a time lag involved. Cheers Paul Benfield (paul.benfield@ntlworld.com) -----Original Message----- From: Mystara [mailto:MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM]On Behalf Of Aaron E Nowack Sent: 22 January 2001 07:55 To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Subject: [MYSTARA] Mystara 3E PBEM I'm curious. How many people out there would be interested in a Mystara PBEM using 3E rules? I could probably find the time to run one, but I'd vastly prefer playing, as I never get a chance to play face-to-face (I'm the only person in my group with any interest at all in DM'ing). Aaron Nowack "Never let reality get in the way of a good hypothesis." http://www.geocities.com/anowack/ ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 00:05:02 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: The Stalker Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Subject: Re: Artifacts of Mystara Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 20:45:29 Caroletti wrote: >> >> Illiric's Nose > >I remember it! It is mentioned in IM2 ! Iliric appeared originally as an >Immortal >pre.generated PC!!!!!!! > >> the Sword of Sylaire (it's not an artifact either, but man, >> that's a real prize!), the Ring of Eibon and the Circled mirror of the >> viper of Averoigne (X2) >> > >They got all destroyed in X2, so why should he mention them? 8-) > Besides, the "Sacred Butter of Skytte" is obviously missing (as is my very own "The Stalker's Red Herring") :) - The Stalker Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 00:44:48 EST Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Master's Pawn Subject: Nagpa Q MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone with the Mystara Monstrous Compendium tell me what, if any, spellcasting ability might be appropriate for a Nagpa and Bhut? ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 08:18:27 +0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Federico Kaftal Subject: Ogg.: Re: [MYSTARA] Languages Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 In Gaz.1 Karameikos, some NPCs are listed with knowledge of the Darokin language and not with "Common/Thyatian - Darokinian dialect"; while for instance the same Gazetteer lists the language of the Dwarves of Altomonte as a dialect of Dwarvish, not as a language completely different from that of Rockhome: so if Darokin fills a language slot instead, Darokin must be quite different from Thyatian. Federico ____________________ Il Mon, 22 January 2001, Geoff Gander ha scritto: > > I've always thought that Darokinian would be more of a patois, sort of > like what's spoken in Minrothad. Perhaps the base is Thyatian, with a > strong Traladaran influence (from the people who fled there following the > initial Thyatian invasion of Traladara around AC 900 - as per GAZ11), with > some Ylari loan words in the east (especially around Selenica). > Underneath it all, however, would be whatever language was spoken by the > Neathar-descended peoples who lived there originally (Ansel Darokin and > his bunch, who were not Thyatian IIRC). There may be a possibility of the > odd orcish loan word, too, due to the constant frictions with them, as > well as the odd elvish word (due to centuries of contact). > > Geoff > > -- > Geoff Gander, BA 97 > Cartographer/Game Designer/Government Peon > Carnifex Loremaster > au998@freenet.carleton.ca : www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Realm/2091 > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. AltaVista Free email service ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 08:25:36 +0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Federico Kaftal Subject: Ogg.: Re: [MYSTARA] Languages Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 Yes, I agree: and might anybody tell me how the hell are the PCs supposed to understand, in "B10 Night's Dark Terror", the ancient Traldar language? That should sound as different from modern Traladaran as Beowulf from Shakespeare, too. Federico _________________ Il Mon, 22 January 2001, Geoff Gander ha scritto: > > Following the above example, the PC who speaks Kastelian Milenian, if he > or she went to HW Milenia, would probably have to learn classic Milenian > as an extra language slot - roughly 1000 years separate the two languages. > I might, however, allow the PC to pick out the odd word here or there with > a successful Int check, but usually not enough to strong together a decent > sentence or two. That would be like me trying to speak the Old English of > "Beowulf". > > Hope this helps, > > Geoff AltaVista Free email service ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:33:34 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Mzilikazi Subject: Re: Mystara 3E PBEM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm also very interested, but seem to be much in the same boat as everyone else around: I'd love to play, but just don't need yet another game to DM. - Mzilikazi > -----Original Message----- > From: Solmyr [mailto:solmyr@KOLUMBUS.FI] > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 4:38 PM > Subject: Re: Mystara 3E PBEM > > > Aaron E Nowack wrote: > > > > I'm curious. How many people out there would be interested in a Mystara > > PBEM using 3E rules? > > > > I could probably find the time to run one, but I'd vastly prefer > > playing, as I never get a chance to play face-to-face (I'm the only > > person in my group with any interest at all in DM'ing). > > > I'd be interested, but I'd also have to be a player, I'm DMing lots of > stuff already and I barely ever get to play :) > > -- > ****************** > Aleksei Andrievski > aka Solmyr, Archmage of the Azure Star > solmyr@kolumbus.fi > http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Fortress/2198/index.html > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:12:30 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Jacob Skytte Subject: Re: Nagpa Q MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Master's Pawn wrote: > Can anyone with the Mystara Monstrous Compendium tell me what, if any, > spellcasting ability might be appropriate for a Nagpa and Bhut? Nagpas are mages of level 9-12, and in addition have the following = innate powers (3 times per day each): Create flames (2d6 dam. for 1d3 = rds.; save for half), Paralysis (1d4 rds; only affects Lawfuls; save to = avoid), Corruption (1 non-living object within 60 feet decays; magical = items get a save), Darkness 15-ft. radius (as spell), and Phantasmal = Force (as spell). They also carry a Staff of Spell Storing (3 spells of = levels 1-3). Bhuts only rarely have spell-casting abilities. There is the occasional = wizard (max 9th level) or shaman/witchdoctor (max 7th level). Jacob Skytte scythe@wanadoo.dk ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 08:23:57 +0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "Francisco V. Navarro" Subject: Re: {MYSTARA] Languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hail Mystarans! A couple of things about the Ethengarian and Krodaharan languages has recently been brought to my attention by our expert Krondaharan Jennifer Guerra. She puts the Mystaran-RW correspondences this way: Ethengarian=RW Mongolian Krondaharan=RW Mughal Empire dialect (Mongolian + Hindu Arabic) Hulean=RW Turkish Arabic Kit Navarro ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 23:00:47 +0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "Francisco V. Navarro" Subject: Night Out in Glantri (6/6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hail Mystarans! Here is the last part of my Glantrian tale! Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did. Feedback is welcome. Kit Navarro ========== Night Out in Glantri By Kit Navarro Epilogue Dawn was breaking. Nina had spent most of the night worrying and was about to retire, when she heard the light patter of small feet. She saw Marco enter the room they shared. "The master will be furious if he found out!" she scolded in a muffled hiss. "On the contrary, Nina, he was pretty pleased that I went with him to the Bastet tonight! But I'll tell you tomorrow" As Marco lay down, Nina noticed a wet blot on his small jacket. "Marco!" Nina said in alarm, "That's not blood, is it? Are you." Then, her heightened sense of smell then gave her a hint of what the odious stain was. "You didn't wet yourself, did you?" Nina teased the small boy. "No," Marco chuckled, somewhat like a gurgling baby, "My last victim pissed on himself." "And on you, apparently," Nina stated, as she lay down to rest. "Nothing a bit of finery and freshness can't fix!" said Marco, chuckling again as he spoke the magic words of the said spell. The wet spot disappeared. Marco closed the lid of his child-like coffin as he lay for a good day's sleep. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 23:00:05 +0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "Francisco V. Navarro" Subject: Night Out in Glantri (5/6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Night Out in Glantri By Kit Navarro Part V Sean McAllister was in total darkness. Moments before he and his two Krondaharan companions stepped into one of the enchanted sarcophagus portals of the Bastet. The door had not been closed, and Sean hoped the portal's magic would teleport them to the same destination of the previous user-the mysterious gentleman in the bull-mask carrying with him a magically held Patric des Ximes, Sean's friend. Sean removed the falcon-head mask that he was still wearing, and shadow images of his location began to emerge before his eyes. Sean was in a graveyard-or so it seemed. Marble tombstones, gothic sculptures, dead trees, iron gates on ivy-covered mausoleums surrounded him and his two companions. The earth beneath their feet was unleveled, as if freshly dug out, and a mist was creeping in around them. High above them the full moon was shining a sick pale light. The only sound Sean could hear was the chattering of Orkajin Virayana's teeth. And as if that was not proof enough of the Krondaharan's horror, his frightened grip on Sean's shoulder made the message all the more clearer. "W-where are we?" whispered Goibban Virayana, Sean's other companion. "I don't know." Sean said calmly and suspiciously. Sean had never seen any cemetery like this before in or around Glantri City, and not even in Klantyre. The style of the graves was, Sean recognized, Boldavian. (Could the teleportation magic from the Bastet transport them that far?) Sean took a step forward, but not too far, for the terrified Orkajin held him back. He stepped on something that looked like a human skull. Sean reached down for it-Orkajin's grip became tighter-and on a hunch, Sean closed his eyes, before touching the skull. What he felt was not rough bone, but soft velvet; the shape was not rounded, but angular, with three points, like a snout and two dog-like ears. "Wh-what's that, Sean? Is th-th-th-th." said Goibban. Orkajin merely chattered his teeth. Sean opened his eyes and the graveyard scene seemed suddenly unreal to him. He looked towards the light streaming from the moon-The moon is never full on Nytdain!-and blinked. And blinked again. The light was coming from a globe of continual light hanging from the ceiling of a cellar. "I'm s-s-scared!" cried Goibban. Sean could see the ghostly images of tombstones and mausoleums overlapping casks and columns. "Sean! I'm s-s-so scared!" cried Goibban, more panicky this time. Pain shot up Sean's arm as Orkajin cut of its circulation with his grip. "It's all an illusion." Sean whispered to himself as he lifted the object he absently held in his hand. With a clear eye, he could see the jackal-head mask that Patric had been wearing. Goibban shouted in abject terror at the skull and ran. Orkajin ran too in a direction hidden by the illusory trees and tombs. With the two Krondaharans gone (Shouldn't Krondaharans be able to tell an illusion a mile away?), Sean looked around the emerging images of reality around him. He was probably in the wine cellar of the Bastet. The gargoyle statue behind him turned out to be the sarcophagus he had entered from. With the terrifying phantasms dispelled from Sean's eyes, another scene-all too real-played before him a few feet away. The mysterious gentleman, now with his mask off, was leaning over a swooned Patric in an intimate embrace. The man, Boldavian by his striking features, was clutching the handsome youth's smooth, pale neck. With the flick of a tongue and the glint of a sharp tooth, the Boldavian had his face buried in his victim's neck in a deep and unholy kiss. Emotions-rage, horror, jealousy, love-welled up in Sean, as he lifted an arm and began reciting some destructive incantation he was only half-consciously casting. But something emerged from the wine barrels in front of him. It was a small boy. Sean stood frozen, his sorcery dissipating before he could complete it. A deep-rooted phobia flooded up in him. The boy had a devilish grin. Sean screamed and fell back as he felt two tiny pricks pierce his neck. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:59:55 +0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "Francisco V. Navarro" Subject: Night Out in Glantri (4/6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hail Mystarans! Here are the next installments in my little Glantrian tale. Feedback is welcome. Kit Navaro ========== Night Out in Glantri By Kit Navarro Part IV The Bastet was the most popular club in the City of Canals-and with good reason. The motif of the place was ancient Nithian. Walls were adorned with bas-relief profiles of animal headed Immortals. Columns, obelisks, and palm fronds accentuated the furniture whose ends bore heads of jackals, lions, and cats. Golden sarcophagi served as portals to the inner chamber, leading to and from the foyer, the toilette, and private rooms, for guests; and to the kitchen and offices, for the staff. The staff themselves were dressed in costume: the women as Nithian dancing girls, the men as pharaohs, and others (undead servants?) as mummies, wrapped in with authentic-looking bandages. The middle of the chamber had a ghostly image of a Nithian pyramid. It glowed with a multitude of colors while chromatic orbs of light danced around, giving the inner chamber a dizzying atmosphere. Inside the phantasmal pyramid, danced the patrons of the club, to the entrancing music which emanated from an unseen source. The music itself was mysterious and exotic, and seemed to excite primal and ancient urges, not altogether unfamiliar to the cultured and civilized Glantrians. Sean McAllister found himself stepping out of a sarcophagus when he entered the inner chamber from the foyer. (Teleportation magic was at work, no doubt!) Though the eyes of his falcon-mask, Sean scanned the crowd of the Bastet, half in shadow, half in scintillating lights. The animal-head masks provided much anonymity to the guests of the Bastet. The swirling shadows and prismatic lights were no help either. At best, Sean could only point out the Belcadizan patrons-shorter than most others-from the constantly changing menagerie. Sean did recognize one woman in the masquerade-the scandalous Do�a Carmina de Belcadiz-laying seductively poised on a jackal-headed divan. She wore no mask, but was dressed as some Nithian queen, complete with a cobra headdress and eyes painted with kohl. Sean found her wanton displays distasteful, but his attentions were drawn to the hulking leonine hunk in her attendance. With a powerful, hirsute hand, he was feeding her grapes from a bunch in a most suggestive manner. His lion-mask was all too authentic. Sean's attentions were drawn to another couple, newly entered through a mummy case across the chamber. One was dressed as a hippopotamus, the other, a baboon; both were bungling their way through the graceful crowd. It would have taken a fool as big as them to have not identified them at first glance. Sean decided to spare them of future embarrassment, and marched his way towards them. "Goibban! Orkajin!" Sean commanded through his falcon-head mask. "Sean? Is that you?" asked the hippopotamus-man. "Who else do you think it is?" scolded the baboon-man, slapping his partner at the back of the head, tilting the mask out of place. All at once, the hippopotamus-man was bumbling about blindly, tripping over a statue of a sphinx and knocking down an alabaster vase. "Rad's ass! You Rad-forsaken clumsy dolt you!" cursed Goibban through his baboon mask. Sean, maintaining his composure, called over a staff member dressed as a mummy. Placing a couple of fake gold ducats into a bandaged hand, Sean signaled to the servant to clean up the mess quickly and discreetly. Sean also noticed the smell of rotting flesh on the all-too-real mummy servant. Goibban, not wanting to get involved with his blundering cousin, sneaked over to Sean. Before he could denounce that Orkajin was only his half-cousin and of a lesser concubine of a half-brother of his father, Sean pressed him urgently, "Have you seen Patric?" "Wh-what?" Goibban babbled, suddenly taken by the feeblemindedness that ran in the blood that he and Orkajin shared. "Patric? Have you seen him?" "H-how could. They're all masked. I thought he was with." "He went with the stranger," Sean impressed on Goibban, realizing his own rising apprehensions. "You mean, Lord Minotaur?" "Yes, the man in the bull mask. They went ahead inside. I haven't seen them." "How could you? They're all wearing masks." Goibban said matter-of-factly, as if what he said was a profound discovery of cosmic truth. "Goibban! Listen to me!" Sean argued impatiently. "Something's wrong! I think Patric is in danger!" Goibban's mood suddenly changed. Sean could almost see through the baboon mask that Goibban made a know-it-all expression on his face. "Are you jealous, Sean McAllister?" Goibban challenged teasingly but with much impertinence. Sean slapped him so hard that the baboon mask flew off his face and across the room, to be lost somewhere on the dance floor in the phantasmal pyramid. Goibban's face was crimson, with embarrassment more than anything-the papier-m�ch� had absorbed most of the impact. But his singed, frizzy hair standing on end told that Sean employed some magic behind that slap. Goibban was, simply and accurately, shocked. "Now listen to me, and listen well!" Sean commanded imperiously, as befits a true heir of the Marquis of Dunvegan and the Prince of Klantyre. "Patric is in danger! We must find him. He is wearing a black jackal-head mask!" Orkajin with his mask off had just lumbered along and pointed towards the center of the phantasmal pyramid, "You mean like that?" The thick, stubby finger of the slow-witted Krondaharan accurately pointed to a youthful figure, wearing a black velvet jackal mask, dancing closely with a taller debonair man, wearing a golden bull mask with ruby eyes. The two were in a tight, sensual embrace and their bodies were writhing seductively and rhythmically to the hypnotic tune of Nithian music. Sean burst forth towards the dance floor, heedless of the low tables and chairs he was toppling over, and the guests he was stepping on. "Patric!" Sean shouted out, his voice a mixture of warning and welling concern. Patric had not responded to Sean's call, but the golden bull mask turned towards Sean. From where he stood, Sean could swear the ruby eyes shone blood red. All at once, the stranger in the bull mask swept Patric up across the floor, towards the nearest sarcophagus-shaped portal. The young man was not an unwilling companion, but Sean could tell his actions were not of his own volition. Sean pursued, but he knew he would not get to the mummy case in time. He reached into his pouch of spell components and began uttering the only spell he thought would be helpful in this situation. Never before had he hoped so much for his quick casting to work. Sean gripped the iron nail that was the focus of his sorcery, and he instinctively sensed the magic reach out towards his target. The mystery man, Sean's first target, resisted the spell, opened the sarcophagus door and stepped in. But as he turned his golden bull-head, he realized that jackal-headed Patric, Sean's second target, was frozen in his tracks, mere steps away from the sarcophagus. Sean surged through the dancing crowd, thankful for the moments he gained with his spell, but that wasn't enough. The bull-man merely stepped out of the sarcophagus and, with phenomenal strength, picked up the youth in his arms. He stepped back into the sarcophagus, carrying Patric like a babe, and disappeared. Sean reached the mummy case portal just seconds too late-but the door had not been shut. Inside, Sean could see the faint glow of teleportation magic still at work. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:49:24 EST Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Ryan Seratt Subject: Re: Night Out in Glantri MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nice story Francisco. I really enjoyed it. Will you we writting more? The end was kind of abrupt, like there was more to story. Ryan ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:59:38 -0600 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Jennifer Guerra Subject: Re: Night Out in Glantri (6/6) In-Reply-To: <004b01c08616$bbd9f5c0$9dd917d2@fanavarro> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On 1/24/01 9:00 AM, fanavarro@PACIFIC.NET.PH wrote: > Hail Mystarans! > > Here is the last part of my Glantrian tale! > Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did. > Feedback is welcome. Bravo, Kit! A well-told and highly descriptive tale that brings many of the Glantrian characters to life! I especially liked the description of the nightclub; it's a very intriguing and interesting place, and has a lot of setting potential. And Marco...brr! And I thought Claudia from "Interview With the Vampire" was bad! ;-) Congratulations, Jenn -- Valerya's Mystaran Dominion: http://www.geocities.com/valerya1/ Tome of Mystara e-Zine: http://www.geocities.com/mystaratome/ ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:40:03 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: What's your Favourite Nation? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit KoRneR wrote: > On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Caroletti wrote: > > Wote for Bellayne from me, and Eusdria from one of my players.. Uhm, I'm afraid I cannot accept the vote of a non-mml member...if I did, then I would have to ask all the people to ask their comrades, and personally it would take too long...and I would prefer to keep the vote for the people who are or where members of the list. Thanks anyway for the attention, KoRneR, and thank your player on my behalf, too! 8-) Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:42:03 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: What's your Favourite Nation? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Joseph Schmitt wrote: > Call me evil, but I�m giving my vote to Alphatia. Yes, EVIL! EVIL! AAAAAARGH!!!!!!!!!!! 8-)))))))))))) Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:04:06 +0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "Francisco V. Navarro" Subject: Re: Night Out in Glantri MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Nice story Francisco. I really enjoyed it. Will you we writting more? The > end was kind of abrupt, like there was more to story. > Ryan > Thank you. I plan to edit this still. [To Sean... rather Shawn: Please wait for the final] I hope you recognized all the major characters and the cameo appearances. I also hope your recognzied also the spells at work. I was hoping to get into a *casual* mood in how Glantrians use their magic. Kit ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 23:37:46 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: SteelAngel Subject: Dune RPG -OT- (warning profanity!) In-Reply-To: <002301c08662$56c76900$abf517d2@fanavarro> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This may be old news, but, I rarely visit the Wizards' site. God damnit! I have been waiting for ages for this damn game. First LUG gives up the ghost and joins WoTC, and I'm like "great! With WoTC's resources, the game will finally see the light of day!" BUT NOOOOO! They make it a FUCKING LIMITED EDITION availible for about 10 minutes from the WoTC online store and only at GEN Con. Like I have the money to get to GEN Con!!!! Then, "due to contractual obligations and the fact that we are money grubbing whores who sold out to Hasbro, and don't have the good sense to hire freelancers, we have to cancel the Dune line - oh but of course 'Wheel of Time' will come out, as well as a d20 version of Call of Cthulhu." WHO NEEDS ANOTHER VERSION OF COC?? The current system by Chaosium is EXCELLENT! Any hardcore Lovecraft RPG fan loves that version! I could go into more reasons why a d20 CoC is dumb, but I'll spare you all. But there is only 2000 or so copies of an RPG that generated SO MUCH FUCKING FANBASE That you can find a copy on the shelves of eBay for $200+ dollars. EVERY GODDAMN DUNE GAME IS IN THE HANDS OF A COLLECTOR, not a _Player_. WHAT ARE THESE FUCKIGN MORONS AT WoTC _THINKING_? Ethan ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 00:17:55 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: SteelAngel Subject: Rant rethought. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, looking some stuff up, it looks like WoTC lost the license to produce the Dune game. It seems a bit fishy though that the Herbert family wouldn't renew it, considering that I had heard that they loved the LUG version. Kinda fishy.. but.. Oh foo.. Damn 'em anyway and their silly prequels. Ethan ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 23:46:55 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Aaron E Nowack Subject: Re: Dune RPG -OT- (warning profanity!) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 23:37:46 -0500 SteelAngel writes: > WHAT ARE THESE FUCKIGN MORONS AT WoTC _THINKING_? Actually, from what I have heard, the real reason that the Dune RPG was canceled was because nobody noticed that the licensce was going to expire, and that reaquiring the license would have been to expensive. So they're only stupid, not moronic. :) Unfortunatly, I was really looking forward to the Dune RPG too. :( But what really pisses me off is that they're selling L5R, which is the stupidest buisiness descision I've ever heard of. L5R is making a profit, and has been undergoing outstanding growth. Not only that, but they had already invested tons of money into making and hyping the big relaunch with Gold Edition, money that will now be wasted. Aaron Nowack "Never let reality get in the way of a good hypothesis." http://www.geocities.com/anowack/ ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:29:12 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Geoff Gander Subject: Re: Languages Agathokles wrote: >Yes, though I wouldn't be able to say what difference there is between, >say, Ranax and Thratian. Perhaps the latter is more modeled on Gaelic? That's what I would say, myself. Geoff -- Geoff Gander, BA 97 Cartographer/Game Designer/Government Peon Carnifex Loremaster au998@freenet.carleton.ca : www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Realm/2091 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:38:51 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Geoff Gander Subject: Re: Ogg.: Re: [MYSTARA] Languages Frederico wrote: > >In Gaz.1 Karameikos, some NPCs are listed with knowledge of the Darokin language and not with "Common/Thyatian - Darokinian dialect"; while for instance the same Gazetteer lists the language of the Dwarves of Altomonte as a dialect of Dwarvish, not as a language completely different from that of Rockhome: so if Darokin fills a language slot instead, Darokin must be quite different from Thyatian. Hmmm...I think this is another case of TSR inconsistencies, with one writer not consulting what was already written before writing the Darokin Gaz. If this is indeed the case, then it's really up to the DM to decide. But I think it's quite a minor thing, though. What do others think? Do Daros speak their own language, or a dialect of Thyatian, or something else? Geoff -- Geoff Gander, BA 97 Cartographer/Game Designer/Government Peon Carnifex Loremaster au998@freenet.carleton.ca : www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Realm/2091 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:48:24 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Geoff Gander Subject: Re: Dune RPG -OT- (warning profanity!) I understand how frustrated you must feel Ethan, but I'm afraid I will have to ask you to try not to use profanity on the list again. That rule has been in place since before I accepted the mantle of List Ogre, and I do not want to make any exceptions to that rule. Everyone is free to express their feelings, but I don't think profanity of any sort will advance the matter. This applies for everyone. No exceptions. Geoff -- Geoff Gander, BA 97 Cartographer/Game Designer/Government Peon Carnifex Loremaster au998@freenet.carleton.ca : www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Realm/2091 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:54:19 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "G.P. Agosta" Subject: Re: Ogg.: Re: [MYSTARA] Languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Geoff Gander wrote: > >> In Gaz.1 Karameikos, some NPCs are listed with knowledge of the Darokin language and not with "Common/Thyatian - Darokinian dialect"; while for instance the same Gazetteer lists the language of the Dwarves of Altomonte as a dialect of Dwarvish, not as a language completely different from that of Rockhome: so if Darokin fills a language slot instead, Darokin must be quite different from Thyatian. > > Hmmm...I think this is another case of TSR inconsistencies, with one > writer not consulting what was already written before writing the Darokin > Gaz. If this is indeed the case, then it's really up to the DM to decide. > But I think it's quite a minor thing, though. > > What do others think? Do Daros speak their own language, or a dialect of > Thyatian, or something else? IMO, there's no specific reason why Darokinians should speak Thyatian, except providing a "Common" for the Known World, which is a meta-game reason. Otherwise, the Darokinians aren't of Thyatian stock, have never been a Thyatian colony (IIRC), while they have been subject to strong influences from other neighbouring lands (Alfheim, Ylaruam, Traladara, even Sind). IMO, if Darokinian language is somewhat similar to Thyatian, it is so only because both share an Antalian ancestry. -- Giampaolo Agosta agathokles@libero.it agosta@fusberta.elet.polimi.it http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:29:43 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Aaron E Nowack Subject: Re: Ogg.: Re: [MYSTARA] Languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:38:51 -0500 Geoff Gander writes: > Frederico wrote: > What do others think? Do Daros speak their own language, or a > dialect of > Thyatian, or something else? IMC, for simplicities sake, I decided that most nations in the Known World spoke varients of either Thyatian or Alphatian. The Darokinian language was originally a dialect of Traladaran, but has since evolved to become very similar to the Thyatian language- and the Thyatian language evolved towards it. It's close enough that it's really become an odd dialect with a lot of Traladaran influence. Aaron Nowack "Never let reality get in the way of a good hypothesis." http://www.geocities.com/anowack/ ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 21:17:24 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Martin Mathes Subject: Someone on the list is infected! no offense meant, ;) no lycanthrop or vampire has to fear anything from me, at least for the moment ;) while going through the postings of the last hours my computer gave me a virus alert: w32/hybris-b found so please check your system health. Martin PS: I use this e-mail adress exclusively for the mystara mailing list. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:14:11 -0600 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Jennifer Guerra Subject: Tome of Mystara announcement - Please read!! Comments: cc: Carl Quaif , Greg Weatherup , James Mishler , James Ruhland , Jacob Skytte , clumsydwarf@usa.net, alanderekjones@msn.com, strawberry@jamm.com, dornhoff@bio.umass.edu, enee@xs4all.nl, ashaktur@hotmail.com, jsmill@wans.net, erik@canadiensfan.com, hmusseau@yahoo.com Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit [Apologies for the long cc line; we're also trying to reach past contributors who may not be on the MML. If you get duplicate copies, please forgive us.] Greetings fellow Mystarans, It is with both great anticipation and with great regret that we make this announcement. First, the bad news: Due to matters beyond our control, we have decided to cease publication of the Tome of Mystara e-Zine. *However*, there is also good news: We're planning on leaving with a bang! Yes, Tome of Mystara will have one, last, "Super Issue"! We're asking that everyone contribute, to make this the biggest and best Tome issue of them all. We need: adventures (the more the merrier!), articles, stories, artwork, music, op-ed pieces, setting expansion...in short, whatever you have, if it's good, write to us with the idea! (*Read the "legal stuff" first, though!*) All queries and entries should be sent to valerya1@yahoo.com for priority processing. The deadline for submissions will be 15 March 2001. Now, the legal stuff: 1) We do require that the piece not be previously published online or on the MML, and that they remain so for 30 days after the _release_ of the issue. 2) We request that entries be submitted in proper HTML format - PLEASE, no Word files, javascripted footnotes, etc. The less time we have to spend re-formatting yoru work, the more we can publish! Be kind. 3) ***Please QUERY*** your submission first - this means to write me a brief note describing your piece and asking if we can use it. I would hate to reject something you spent hours working on. The last issue will be released whenever we have it prepared, probably around the first of May. Well, that's that. Please write with your ideas! Jennifer Guerra Kevin Turner Editors, Tome of Mystara e-Zine -- Tome of Mystara e-Zine: http://www.geocities.com/mystaratome/ ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 00:08:34 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Daniel Mayer Subject: Re: Someone on the list is infected! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Martin Mathes wrote: > > no offense meant, ;) > > no lycanthrop or vampire has to fear anything from me, at least for the > moment ;) > > while going through the postings of the last hours my computer gave me a > virus alert: > > w32/hybris-b found > > so please check your system health. > > Martin Yes indeed. For my True-Sighted Eyes it seems the virus comes from Italy... or should I say from Thyatis? I recieved two Hybris-B til today. My "Scanner"-spell tells about it, it was first found in Nov. 2000. So use the most recent spell inventions, too. I wasn�t able to kill the virus, though. I use a Sophos 3.40 (12/2000)-spell. It�s is quite bad at removing "cause infection"-spells, I fear. Someone to trade a remover-spell for this information? Or the information which spell to use? Daniel Mayer Laren Nightmaster Tower of Dreams P.S.: The header of the last "cause Hybris-B"-spell I recieved mentions the evil mage "libero.it" with a synonym "m3u7o3" and thy cryptic numerical invention number "151.30.74.147". Take this as call to duel, evil spawn! ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:51:04 -0600 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: M Novy Subject: Re: Someone on the list is infected! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed If someone on the list can assist me I would appreciate it. My McAfee VirusScan is about 3 years old....So do I need to go and upgrade it or can i just go to the website and do that. Mike _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 23:32:44 EST Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "Larry E. Lamb" Subject: I have a question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello to all on the list. IM not sure what to label this so if IM wrong IM sorry. I would like to know if anyone has changes Karameikos into a Celtic type setting. IM going to try to change it into a Celtic style setting and remove the native "immortals' with the gods in the Legends and Lore book. Any thoughts? ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 07:09:00 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: Someone on the list is infected! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Yes indeed. For my True-Sighted Eyes it seems the virus comes from > Italy... or should I say from Thyatis? > P.S.: The header of the last "cause Hybris-B"-spell I recieved mentions > the evil mage "libero.it" Then it's not me. 8-) Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 07:10:53 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: Tome of Mystara announcement - Please read!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > First, the bad news: Due to matters beyond our control, we have decided to > cease publication of the Tome of Mystara e-Zine. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! > We're asking that everyone contribute, I'll see what I can do... Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 07:19:40 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: Blackheart Gaz ver. 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > All buildings are built in disturbing fashions Yes, yes, muhahahah!!!! > and must be built of or painted in dark colors- greys, blacks, midnight > tones. The inner quarter of Shraek is surrounded by a warped and oddly > angled curtain of black obsidian. MUHAHAHAHAHAHHA > It is a marvel of architecture, as it is > only a few inches thick at almost all points, but it is nearly > indestructible. Only a very few people know that the wall is actually a > baaka Uh? Argh, I had already thought about Nightmare connections...8-) > Here, too, is the realm of what is arguably Blackheart's most dangerous > denizen. An elder Air Elemental from the Nightmare Dimensional Plane of Air > (HD24). MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! > Mystara- that led to the fall of the elvish kingdom of Ilmaryl. ????? What's Ilmaryl? Did I forget about it or what? > The poisons of Shaddoth have only been kept in check by the guardian baak Ah, now I see the connection, yahoo! > They got off lucky; it is said that the screams of the > asylum's patients can still be heard whenever Hugorth is in the city > performing his experiments. Good, good, good! > 2) City Planning Building- To say this structure is an eyesore is an > understatement. Built in a myriad of angles and physics-defying shapes, it > is the only building in the city that is permitted to exist in violation of > the strict color statutes. Its clashing bright hues and tints stand wildly > at odds with the blacks, greys, and dark tones of all other buildings in > the city. Indeed, sometimes the structure seems to change and shift its > features at random. Marvelous marvelous marvelous > > Tolstoy (Sor14) [...] the alignment of angles and buildings in the city would > bring Shraek in conjunction with the planets, making it the focal point of > chaos in the > universe, and drastically altering the surrounding landscape. Heh heh heh. > It would also inadvertently elevate Tolstoy to Immortality. Uh? > He believes that vegetable matter will one day conquer the world, with him > leading the way. Several huge (15 HD) Shambling Mounds patrol the gardens, > taking care of any possible intruders. One of my players would be very happy to serve Nicodemus > 1) The University of Malebolge (pop. 175): You didn't mention Professor Cthulhudrew...8-) > 2) Castle Qain Is this a reference to something I can't recall? Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis Now playing: "Nuages. That which passes, passes like clouds" by King Crimson. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 07:25:00 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: Blackheart Gaz ver. 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The Nightmair elemental, Shaddoth, is a pretty nasty character. One of > these days I'll get around to doing a complete stat writeup on him. And I will put it on the Nightmare Project Web Page.... > Hmm... I hadn't really thought about this. There are probably agents of > enforcement (legal or otherwise) in the city; perhaps factions that "rule" > different areas. Factions? I don't know. Wouldn't it be too "legal"? I mean, considering the chaotic nature of Blackheart, I suppose that there could be mercenaries paid by someone (the Misanthrope?) to control things, but not factions nor organizations, in my opinion. I don't mean that there can't be an organization in Blackheart, just that it can't be involved in state politics and activities. Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 01:31:12 EST Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "Larry E. Lamb" Subject: Re: Blackheart Gaz ver. 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/25/01 10:20:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, scarole@TIN.IT writes: << > He believes that vegetable matter will one day conquer the world, with him > leading the way. Several huge (15 HD) Shambling Mounds patrol the gardens, > taking care of any possible intruders. >> That sounds like the anime "Blue Seed". ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 08:10:24 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Martin Mathes Subject: Dispell for w32/hybris-b There is a very easy (yet somehow online time taking and not truely l/g) way to get the highest version of the sophos spell. My university offers the sophos spell for university members for free . . . on a open download page, for a lot of systems . . . http://www.uni-essen.de/hrz/antivirus/sophos.html That was the way i got rid of this tiny monster Martin ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:16:44 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "G.P. Agosta" Subject: Re: Blackheart Gaz ver. 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> Tolstoy (Sor14) [...] the alignment of angles and buildings in the city would >> bring Shraek in conjunction with the planets, making it the focal point of >> chaos in the >> universe, and drastically altering the surrounding landscape. > > Heh heh heh. > >> It would also inadvertently elevate Tolstoy to Immortality. > > Uh? Very Planescape-ish... reminds me of the "Harbinger House" PS module. -- Giampaolo Agosta agathokles@libero.it agosta@fusberta.elet.polimi.it http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:13:35 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Mzilikazi Subject: Re: Ogg.: Re: [MYSTARA] Languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: Aaron E Nowack [mailto:anowack@JUNO.COM] > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 6:30 PM > Subject: Re: Ogg.: Re: [MYSTARA] Languages > > > On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:38:51 -0500 Geoff Gander > writes: > > Frederico wrote: > > What do others think? Do Daros speak their own language, or a > > dialect of > > Thyatian, or something else? > > IMC, for simplicities sake, I decided that most nations in the Known > World spoke varients of either Thyatian or Alphatian. > The Darokinian language was originally a dialect of Traladaran, but has > since evolved to become very similar to the Thyatian language- and the > Thyatian language evolved towards it. It's close enough that it's really > become an odd dialect with a lot of Traladaran influence. My first source of information on Darokin, was PWA1 which said Darokinians spoke Thyatian. I've alway stuck with that even when I found other sources that said otherwise. My rationalization for that has been that Thyatis has been the dominant nation in the area for quite some time now, and since Darokin is very oriented towards foreign lands, trade and diplomacy, they eventually adapted the most commonly spoken language as their own. O course they've also added in quite a bit of Elven, Ylari, Sindhi, Traldar etc., but they can still communicate properly with the average Thyatian... Of course this is more of a rationalization I thought up to have the Darokinians speaking Thyatian than a chain of logic as to what language they should be speaking. Anyway, pull that chain one step longer, and you've got a new language anyway.... -Mzilikazi ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:30:13 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: eikab Subject: question of a 1.000.000 gp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hy at all Do someone of you know why our world is called Mystara and what it = means? A question never heard before eh?=20 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:49:23 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: eikab Subject: allinent language MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, the AM-L is a flop, also if I never think so before. If this languages is a body-lang. you must think to a kaotik manscorpion = who meets a kk alphatian: the m-scorpion wuold to communicate that he's = kk and shapes (i. e.) his tail. What can the human understain? So if the AM-L if a particulary slang, figure in your minds a lawful one = who be born in a city-sewer and never heard and never acquire the = knowoledge of an high-tounge. When he talks, what could the others think = of you? Or the Mystara's societies are like the schemes of Auguste = Comte?!=20 And then, if the AM-Lang, is useful for give secret messages, if = everyone can acquire this lang., where going the secretely? Finally, what this special seings are useful, respect the many others = kind of caommunicate? Just to say: "Hi, I'm lawful, and you?" noooooot! farewell =20 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:51:19 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: eikab Subject: the langue of magic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable do someone of you never thynked, of maked, a language, for the = read/write/cast the spells? ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:48:41 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: allinent language MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > If this languages is a body-lang. you must think to a kaotik manscorpion who meets a kk alphatian: the m-scorpion wuold to communicate that he's kk and shapes (i. e.) his tail. What can the human understain? LOL! Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:19:01 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "G.P. Agosta" Subject: Re: question of a 1.000.000 gp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit eikab wrote: > Hy at all > Do someone of you know why our world is called Mystara and what it means? > > A question never heard before eh? IIRC, there was a contest on Dragon Magazine to choose the name for the world (and its moons). In-game-wise, there's no ready answer. Someone proposed that "Mystara" should be an Alphatian term, since the Alphatians are the most common aliens on Mystara, and it is reasonable that a world name not meaning "earth" would be created by non-natives of that world. As to the meaning, I've no clue. -- Giampaolo Agosta agathokles@libero.it agosta@fusberta.elet.polimi.it http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:19:02 +0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Federico Kaftal Subject: Ogg.: Re: [MYSTARA] question of a 1.000.000 gp Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 I guess that the author of the name (whoever may be) meant to say something like "Myst-Terra" = "Earth of Mysts" or else "Earth of Mystery". Very evocative... Federico Il Fri, 26 January 2001, "G.P. Agosta" ha scritto: > > eikab wrote: > > > Hy at all > > Do someone of you know why our world is called Mystara and what it means? > > > > A question never heard before eh? > > IIRC, there was a contest on Dragon Magazine to choose the name for the > world (and its moons). > > In-game-wise, there's no ready answer. Someone proposed that "Mystara" > should be an Alphatian term, since the Alphatians are the most common > aliens on Mystara, and it is reasonable that a world name not meaning > "earth" would be created by non-natives of that world. As to the > meaning, I've no clue. > -- > > > Giampaolo Agosta > > > agathokles@libero.it > agosta@fusberta.elet.polimi.it > http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. AltaVista Free email service ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:03:03 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: SteelAngel Subject: Re: Ogg.: Re: [MYSTARA] question of a 1.000.000 gp In-Reply-To: <20010126151902.23608.cpmta@c000.muc.cp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Federico Kaftal wrote: > I guess that the author of the name (whoever may be) meant to say something like "Myst-Terra" = "Earth of Mysts" or else "Earth of Mystery". > Very evocative... Hmm. I never heard about this. What Dragon was it in? Also, I see a few spanish sites that have Mystara in the name. Is there a Spanish word 'mystara'? Ethan ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:14:05 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Martin Mathes Subject: Re: the langue of magic eikab said: > do someone of you never thynked, of maked, a language, for the read/write/cast the spells? > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > > > Hi, there was a set of alphabets given in the dungeon master survival kiz 2512 from tsr. but they are, as the hole product, somehow unsatisfying. when i find some time i'm going to scan them in and transform them to printable ttf or something usefull. there is a hin (halfling alphabet and some language in the hin gazetteer thats all i know of for the surface oh, there is also some ancient nithian (rw egyptian hieroglyphs in both scripts, ancient and newer) in the nithia gazetteer Martin -- ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 19:15:59 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Martin Mathes Subject: Re: the langue of magic Martin Mathes said: > eikab said: > > > do someone of you never thynked, of maked, a language, for the > read/write/cast the spells? > > > > ******************************************************************** > > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > there was a set of alphabets given in the dungeon master survival kiz 2512 > from tsr. but they are, as the hole product, somehow unsatisfying. > > when i find some time i'm going to scan them in and transform them to > printable ttf or something usefull. > > there is a hin (halfling alphabet and some language in the hin gazetteer > > thats all i know of for the surface > > oh, there is also some ancient nithian (rw egyptian hieroglyphs in both > scripts, ancient and newer) in the nithia gazetteer > > Martin > -- > uh i just found my exemplar, the alphabets in the dm survival kit are: an elvish, a dwarvish and a magical alphabet. they are even with an phonetic transcription. hey, and the dwarves have no vowels, :) and there is a rune alphabet in the northern reaches gaz. Martin ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:40:07 EST Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "Larry E. Lamb" Subject: Re: Ogg.: Re: [MYSTARA] question of a 1.000.000 gp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/26/01 7:25:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, kaftal@ALTAVISTA.IT writes: << I guess that the author of the name (whoever may be) meant to say something like "Myst-Terra" = "Earth of Mysts" or else "Earth of Mystery". Very evocative... >> I like that...sounds......interesting. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 20:30:17 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: eikab Subject: R: Re: [MYSTARA] the langue of magic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, 've seen at once ago, in an advancedd&d site some ttf of elvish, dwarves, celtic runes and similar. But now I don't remember its URL, but ins't important: these ttf didn't run good in my word and blocked the system. Another thing: I don't request only the alfa-beta letter, I'm interested to kwon if someone has created some grammatical rules or some fixed formules about casting spell. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:20:57 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Martin Mathes Subject: Re: R: Re: [MYSTARA] the langue of magic eikab said: > Yes, 've seen at once ago, in an advancedd&d site some ttf of elvish, > dwarves, celtic runes and similar. But now I don't remember its URL, but > ins't important: these ttf didn't run good in my word and blocked the > system. > Another thing: I don't request only the alfa-beta letter, I'm interested to > kwon if someone has created some grammatical rules or some fixed formules > about casting spell. > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > > > the northern reaches gaz describes a kind of rune magic. the palladium rpg has a interesting concept of magic signs, with protective circles etc. so if you can get your hands on one of this . . . get it martin -- ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 22:22:43 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Piquer_Otero?= Subject: Re: the langue of magic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I think that the only languages which are "specific for magic" as citated in TSR products are Old Alphatian for the Alphatian mages and Old Nithian for Nithian spellcasters. Rules say that clerical scrolls are in Common, so it seems that no special language goes for cleric magic, just orisons and prayers in a maybe more archaic version of the common language of the cleric's nation. (as in Mystara Immortals are worshipped cross-nations, I don't think that a particular Immortal favours a language over another). And for other M-Users, I think that the language they use springs from the Sphere of Energy, so that the "read magic" spell works world-wide: maybe it's a kind of "primaeval language" of sorts. I could also see the idea of every M-U developing his own personalized version of a primaeval language of magic (not spoken by mortals), so that everybody else needs a spell, which would draw Energy to confer universal meaning and understanding, to read somebody else's scrolls and spellbooks. IMC, I follow this idea, and so I don't let Clerics read foreign scrolls unless they know the language or they have a Helm of Reading. MUs can get to the universal root of magic with any text, but onthe other hand they need the Read Magic spell. But that's all a house rule of my own. Otherwise, a Thyatian cleric being able to pick and read a scroll filled with an orison written in "common" from the Land of Hule would feel as weird as alignment languages themselves! Andr�s ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 23:50:43 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "paul.benfield" Subject: Re: Dispell for w32/hybris-b In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is this virus a plot by some Glantrian terrorist group? [OOC] Just as an aside I'd highly recommend people try InoculateIT PE as a reliable anti-virus package. http://antivirus.ca.com/ (follow the download free software link). It's very easy to update (you don't need to restart Windows afterwards!) and has caught some very nasty viruses before they could do any damage to my PC. So long as it's not for business use on a network there's no charge for the software or the updates! Cheers Paul Benfield (paul.benfield@ntlworld.com) -----Original Message----- From: Mystara [mailto:MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM]On Behalf Of Martin Mathes Sent: 26 January 2001 08:10 To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Subject: [MYSTARA] Dispell for w32/hybris-b There is a very easy (yet somehow online time taking and not truely l/g) way to get the highest version of the sophos spell. My university offers the sophos spell for university members for free . . . on a open download page, for a lot of systems . . . http://www.uni-essen.de/hrz/antivirus/sophos.html That was the way i got rid of this tiny monster Martin ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:17:53 -0600 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: M Novy Subject: Re: Dispell for w32/hybris-b Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Thanks for the help :) >From: Martin Mathes >Reply-To: Mystara >To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM >Subject: [MYSTARA] Dispell for w32/hybris-b >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 08:10:24 -0000 > >There is a very easy (yet somehow online time taking and not truely l/g) >way >to get the highest version of the sophos spell. > >My university offers the sophos spell for university members for free . . . >on a open download page, for a lot of systems . . . > >http://www.uni-essen.de/hrz/antivirus/sophos.html > >That was the way i got rid of this tiny monster > >Martin > >******************************************************************** >The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp >The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ >To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM >with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 20:39:28 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Andrew Theisen Subject: Re: Blackheart Gaz ver. 1 In-Reply-To: <96.f35857a.27a273b0@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:31 AM 1/26/01 EST, you wrote: >In a message dated 1/25/01 10:20:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, scarole@TIN.IT >writes: > ><< > He believes that vegetable matter will one day conquer the world, with >him > > leading the way. Several huge (15 HD) Shambling Mounds patrol the gardens, > > taking care of any possible intruders. > >> > >That sounds like the anime "Blue Seed". Never heard of it, but I'll keep my eyes out- maybe it'll give me some inspiration for a related project I just came up with that Nicodemus would be connected to- think "evil druids". :) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 11:00:48 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: Celtic Karameikos MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Hello to all on the list. IM not sure what to label this so if IM wrong IM > sorry. I would like to know if anyone has changes Karameikos into a Celtic > type setting. IM going to try to change it into a Celtic style setting and > remove the native "immortals' with the gods in the Legends and Lore book. Any > thoughts? Uhm. The first thing to do is to check Robrenn, a "celtic" based nation of the Savage Coast here on Mystara. That would give you clues to a celtic fantasy land. If you feel that Robrenn is what you need, you could simply use it in place of Karameikos, changing the names of the places and cities, and then using the Legends & Lore version of the Robrennian gods. If it doesn't fit your idea, however, you could work everything from zero, but I think that you probably ought to change 90% of Karameikos to making it fit a celtic setting. However it's an interesting idea, share your ideas here on the list and I'll be sure to comment them. Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 11:31:19 -0000 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Martin Mathes Subject: Re: the langue of magic Andr�s Piquer Otero said: > I think that the only languages which are "specific for magic" as citated in > TSR products are Old Alphatian for the Alphatian mages and Old Nithian for > Nithian spellcasters. Rules say that clerical scrolls are in Common, so it > seems that no special language goes for cleric magic, just orisons and > prayers in a maybe more archaic version of the common language of the > cleric's nation. (as in Mystara Immortals are worshipped cross-nations, I > don't think that a particular Immortal favours a language over another). And > IMC, I follow this idea, and so I don't let Clerics read foreign scrolls > unless they know the language or they have a Helm of Reading. MUs can get to > the universal root of magic with any text, but onthe other hand they need > the Read Magic spell. But that's all a house rule of my own. Otherwise, a > Thyatian cleric being able to pick and read a scroll filled with an orison > written in "common" from the Land of Hule would feel as weird as alignment > languages themselves! > > Andr�s > yeah, the ability of clerics to read scrolls from any other belief is somewhat funny. in one of the groups where i'm player, a cleric of a n/g religion read a scroll from an c/e cult . . . a "harm" to stop a fire elemental . . . and it got wrong ;) just imagine, as all the scrolls should start with something like: "In the name of the great and benevolent immortal XXXX . . . i command the evil/good forces to do the following!" and have such a scroll read out by an l/e cleric. i determine for every scroll, to wich of the immortals the scroll refers. so a cleric will normally only use scrolls from immortals that are friendly to his own patron. For using a scroll from an opposing immortal ther is always the possibility of malfunction. especcialy funny when the name of the immortal is missing or i use a seldom used alias. :) Martin -- ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 13:29:27 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard?= Subject: Re: question of a 1.000.000 gp In-Reply-To: <000001c0879b$4eeb54a0$e9841b97@vucppqlj> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, eikab wrote: > Hy at all > Do someone of you know why our world is called Mystara and what it means? > > A question never heard before eh? When the D&D setting was converted into AD&D it had already grown beyond the Known World and TSR needed a name for the new product line. There was a competition in Dragon Magazine to name the new setting, but apparently, there were no good ideas og too few people answered so Bruce Heard came up with the name Mystara -the Mystery Star- himself. Personally, I also like the idea of it as being Myst Terra, as someone else suggested. Also, it would make sense that it was named by the Alphatians as they, being alien, would need a name for the new world. The people of Blackmoor probably also had a name for their world, but it would have been forgotten by now. Unless, ofcourse, Mystara being a fantasy world, things can have true names, and the Alphatians believing that they named the world, actually simply discovered the world's true name.. H�vard Haavard R. Faanes (hoc@nvg.ntnu.no) http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/~hoc "God created man in his image, and then man returned the favour." -Voltaire ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:52:49 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: KoRneR Subject: Re: question of a 1.000.000 gp In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Alphatians as they, being alien, would need a name for the new world. how alien???? > The people of Blackmoor probably also had a name for their world, but it > would have been forgotten by now. Unless, ofcourse, Mystara being a > fantasy world, things can have true names, and the Alphatians believing > that they named the world, actually simply discovered the world's true > name.. this one's good.. greetings, KoRneR (a.k.a. Ivan Stanojevic) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- PFCode: v1.2a r+d>s BO 0/0/ FD 0- 0 TFC 3 0 99.3% <18nov0> ICQ#: 32555524 feeling like a mail: reaper@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu freak on a leash. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:56:42 EST Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Brant Casavant Subject: Re: question of a 1.000.000 gp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 01/27/2001 7:38:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, hoc@NVG.NTNU.NO writes: << Personally, I also like the idea of it as being Myst Terra, as someone else suggested. >> That makes a lot of sense. I mean, the academic name for the planet could be/is "Myst Terra," but it's called Mystara by most people, probably as a mispronunciation. Just like the real name for Earth is "Terra," but everyone calls it "Earth" anyway. =) - Brant ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 19:15:37 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Alphatians = Aliens MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit KoRneR wrote: > > Alphatians as they, being alien, would need a name for the new world. > > how alien???? Alphatians came from another dimension. Although they are unmistakenly human, they come are not native to our world. Mystara to the Mystarans! Sorry, Jens...8-) Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:35:00 -0600 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: George Hrabovsky Subject: Re: question of a 1.000.000 gp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, the real name of Earth is, in fact, Earth. Terra is Latin for Earth. The only latin-like word that I can come up with for Mystara would be something like mes-terra, which could be something like "World of harvest," if we stretched it a bit. In Norwegian, Mistere is something like "Loser." In French, mystere is "Mystery." This lends itself to the Alphatians having named the world upon their arrival. These are all I really had time to look up. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brant Casavant" To: Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] question of a 1.000.000 gp > In a message dated 01/27/2001 7:38:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, > hoc@NVG.NTNU.NO writes: > > << Personally, I also like the idea of it as being Myst Terra, as someone > else suggested. >> > > That makes a lot of sense. I mean, the academic name for the planet could > be/is "Myst Terra," but it's called Mystara by most people, probably as a > mispronunciation. Just like the real name for Earth is "Terra," but everyone > calls it "Earth" anyway. =) > > - Brant > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:04:35 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Mike Donnelly Jr Subject: Re: Tome of Mystara announcement - Please read!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Caroletti wrote: > > First, the bad news: Due to matters beyond our control, we have decided to > > cease publication of the Tome of Mystara e-Zine. > > NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! > > > We're asking that everyone contribute, > > I'll see what I can do... > > Iulius Sergius Scaevola > Captain of the XXth Cohort > Port Lucinius, Thyatis Sounds like the smuggling fees and bribes are going up in Thyatis... ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:57:33 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: The Stalker Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Subject: Re: Alphatians = Aliens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 19:15:37 Caroletti wrote: >KoRneR wrote: > >> > Alphatians as they, being alien, would need a name for the new world. >> >> how alien???? > >Alphatians came from another dimension. Although they are unmistakenly human, >they come are not native to our world. > This is not entirely accurate. The Alphatians originated on a different world, now called Old Alphatia, this is true, yes. However, the destruction of Old Alphatia and the survivors subsequent settlement on Mystara was more than 2,000 years into Mystara's past. Yet there are still those who insist that Alphatians are alien, even though they are more Mystaran than similar foreign settlers in Glantri such as the Flaems or, even more appropriately, the peoples from Klantyre or Nouvelle Averoigne. The Alphatian Empire has existed on Mystara for more than 2,000 years, so while it is indeed possible that some of the original settlers may yet live due to powerful spells, these would be an extremely distinct minority of the population - the vast majority of Alphatians are indeed Mystaran in that they were born on Mystara and have never lived elsewhere... This claim of being 'aliens' is, well, foreign to me, yet it persists, though there are those for which it would be more appropriate... >Mystara to the Mystarans! >Sorry, Jens...8-) > That's 'Master Stalker' to you! ;) - The Stalker Great Gift Idea! FREE cell phone, internet ready at Lycos Marketplace http://www.inphonic.lycos.com/redirect.asp?referringpage=www.lycosd1 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:59:49 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: The Stalker Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Subject: Re: Tome of Mystara announcement - Please read!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:04:35 Mike Donnelly Jr wrote: >Caroletti wrote: > >> > First, the bad news: Due to matters beyond our control, we have decided to >> > cease publication of the Tome of Mystara e-Zine. >> >> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO >> OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! >> We finally agree on something! :( >> > We're asking that everyone contribute, >> >> I'll see what I can do... >> >> Iulius Sergius Scaevola >> Captain of the XXth Cohort >> Port Lucinius, Thyatis > >Sounds like the smuggling fees and bribes are going up in Thyatis... > Quite. I'm just surprised that nobody has blamed Alphatia for this vile deed yet... :) - The Stalker Great Gift Idea! FREE cell phone, internet ready at Lycos Marketplace http://www.inphonic.lycos.com/redirect.asp?referringpage=www.lycosd1 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:18:19 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Mike Donnelly Jr Subject: Re: Tome of Mystara announcement - Please read!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Stalker wrote: > >> > First, the bad news: Due to matters beyond our control, we have decided to > >> > cease publication of the Tome of Mystara e-Zine. > >> > >> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > >> OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! > >> > > We finally agree on something! :( > > >> > We're asking that everyone contribute, > >> > >> I'll see what I can do... > >> > >> Iulius Sergius Scaevola > >> Captain of the XXth Cohort > >> Port Lucinius, Thyatis > > > >Sounds like the smuggling fees and bribes are going up in Thyatis... > > > > Quite. I'm just surprised that nobody has blamed Alphatia for this vile deed yet... :) That comes later. The next step is for the Heldanes to smuggle forged copies to Thyatis reporting they were obtained from Alpahtia. *Then* we start blaming Alphatia... ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 22:28:32 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: The Stalker Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Subject: Re: Tome of Mystara announcement - Please read!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:18:19 Mike Donnelly Jr wrote: >The Stalker wrote: > (snip) >> >> Quite. I'm just surprised that nobody has blamed Alphatia for this vile deed yet... :) > >That comes later. The next step is for the Heldanes to smuggle forged copies to Thyatis >reporting they were obtained from Alpahtia. *Then* we start blaming Alphatia... > LOL. Actually, I'm well aware of this, as the tactic is indeed an old one. What I can't figure out is two things. 1. How come the Thyatians don't see this - I may not credit them with vast intellect, but really... and... 2. What is the Glantrian connection to all this scheming and plotting? Surely there *must* be one! ;) - The Stalker Great Gift Idea! FREE cell phone, internet ready at Lycos Marketplace http://www.inphonic.lycos.com/redirect.asp?referringpage=www.lycosd1 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 22:49:36 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: Tome of Mystara announcement - Please read!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > Quite. I'm just surprised that nobody has blamed Alphatia for this vile deed yet... :) > > That comes later. The next step is for the Heldanes to smuggle forged copies to Thyatis > reporting they were obtained from Alpahtia. *Then* we start blaming Alphatia... We found a lot of smuggled copies on a cargo ship that arrived yesterday. We received a clue to look on the "Bellissaria" ship, and we found them there. There's no need to tell you where the ship came from. Now, what more evidence do we need ? I mean, would you dare to accuse an officer of the Thyatian Empire to *create* false evidences ? Would you? 8-) Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 17:36:59 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Mike Donnelly Jr Subject: Re: Tome of Mystara announcement - Please read!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Caroletti wrote: > We found a lot of smuggled copies on a cargo ship that arrived yesterday. We > received a clue to look on the "Bellissaria" ship, and we found them there. > There's no need to tell you where the ship came from. > Now, what more evidence do we need ? > I mean, would you dare to accuse an officer of the Thyatian Empire to *create* > false evidences ? Would you? Publicly or on the sly? As to the Galantrian connection, exactly who do you think printed them up and gave the idea to the Heldaners? Would you actually believe that they could think up such a complex plot on their own? I'd be suprised to find more than a handful of them that can read/write a civilized tongue. Just don't ask which principality this plot originates it. Once it gets to Galantri, it's hard to say what's really going on there... ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 02:05:59 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: The Stalker Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Subject: Re: Tome of Mystara announcement - Please read!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 17:36:59 Mike Donnelly Jr wrote: >Caroletti wrote: > >> We found a lot of smuggled copies on a cargo ship that arrived yesterday. We >> received a clue to look on the "Bellissaria" ship, and we found them there. >> There's no need to tell you where the ship came from. >> Now, what more evidence do we need ? >> I mean, would you dare to accuse an officer of the Thyatian Empire to *create* >> false evidences ? Would you? > Well, I would... for all the good it would do me! You Thyatians would still be too paranoid to believe me, I'm sure... :) >Publicly or on the sly? > >As to the Galantrian connection, exactly who do you think printed them up and gave the idea to >the Heldaners? Would you actually believe that they could think up such a complex plot on >their own? I'd be suprised to find more than a handful of them that can read/write a >civilized tongue. > Ah, yes, quite true. Then again, I'd be surprised to learn that about the Glantrians as well, wouldn't I ? ;) >Just don't ask which principality this plot originates it. Once it gets to Galantri, it's >hard to say what's really going on there... > Not that we concern ourselves much with such things, eh? ;) - The Stalker Great Gift Idea! FREE cell phone, internet ready at Lycos Marketplace http://www.inphonic.lycos.com/redirect.asp?referringpage=www.lycosd1 ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:24:13 -0500 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Mike Donnelly Jr Subject: Re: Tome of Mystara announcement - Please read!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Stalker wrote: > On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 17:36:59 > Mike Donnelly Jr wrote: > >Caroletti wrote: > > > >> We found a lot of smuggled copies on a cargo ship that arrived yesterday. We > >> received a clue to look on the "Bellissaria" ship, and we found them there. > >> There's no need to tell you where the ship came from. > >> Now, what more evidence do we need ? > >> I mean, would you dare to accuse an officer of the Thyatian Empire to *create* > >> false evidences ? Would you? > > > > Well, I would... for all the good it would do me! You Thyatians would still be too paranoid to believe me, I'm sure... :) Just a FYI, I certainly am *not* Thyatian. I'm not entirely sure what my character would be. There isn't a land of wiseguys, so I'm kinda out of luck. (Were I to pick a place in the realms of fantasy I'd be in Tolkein's Middle-Earth as a Vanyar.) > Ah, yes, quite true. Then again, I'd be surprised to learn that about the Galantrians as well, wouldn't I ? ;) Um, I don't have anything against the folks from Galantri. > >Just don't ask which principality this plot originates it. Once it gets to Galantri, it's > >hard to say what's really going on there... > > > > Not that we concern ourselves much with such things, eh? ;) No, it's just kinda a world unto itself and an utterly confusing one at that. You don't know the players without a linup and on every lineup there seems to be a few misprints. It all comes down to that one question: who is playing who? ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 18:54:38 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "David S. Leland" Subject: My 3E Callarii Elf traits In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I thought this might be of interest to some. It's the way I've=20 adapted the Callarii elves to 3e. Please note this reflects my=20 tastes and campaign, and is not intended to reflect a "canonical"=20 conversion. Also included here are the first five levels of my=20 Callarii spell list. IMC, the Callarii learn spells through rituals=20 led by Treekeepers. Eventually, I'll make a Treekeeper prestige=20 class for the Callarii (although it will probably be similar to the=20 kind I'd use for Alfheim). One perk of this prestige class will be=20 access to spells which non-Treekeepers can't master (e.g. goodberry,=20 identify). Callarii Elven Racial Traits: =B7 +2 Dexterity, -2 Intelligence: The Callarii are just as agile and=20 graceful as other elves, but are comparatively robust and healthy,=20 and suffer no penalty to Constitution. On the other hand, Callarii=20 education focuses on physical and intuitive skills at the expense of=20 pure knowledge and reasoning skills. They are not less intelligent=20 by nature, but are trained to be shrewd fighters, not great=20 thinkers. While the Callarii are somewhat anti-intellectual, they=20 are too easy-going to be disdainful or snobbish towards wizards,=20 scholars and the like. Rather, they view intellectuals and their=20 pursuits at worst with amusement and at best with a superficial=20 curiosity. =B7 Medium-size: As Medium-size creatures, elves have no special=20 bonuses or penalties due to their size. =B7 Elven base speed is 30 feet. =B7 Class restrictions: All Callarii elves, even non-adventurers, are=20 trained in youth to wield bow, sword, and spell, becoming=20 multi-classed apprentice fighter/sorcerers at 1st level (most choose=20 fighter as the primary apprentice class). Adventuring Callarii=20 become level 1/1 fighter/sorcerers at 2nd level, and afterwards may=20 advance in either or both classes at any rate without penalty. Most=20 progress in both classes with emphasis on the fighter class. A few=20 are satisfied with their 1 level of sorcery and advance as fighters=20 exclusively thereafter. The rare mage-equivalents of the Callarii do=20 the reverse, studying elven sorcery preferentially or exclusively=20 after completing their 1 level of fighting. No other classes are=20 open to the Callarii. =B7 Class skills: Rather than the standard fighter and sorcerer class=20 skills, the following are class skills for Callarii regardless of=20 which of the two classes they advance in: Climb, Concentration,=20 Craft, Handle Animal, Heal, Jump, Knowledge (nature), Listen, Move=20 Silently, Profession, Ride, Search, Spot, Swim, Wilderness Lore. =B7 Low-light Vision: Elves can see twice as far as humans in=20 starlight, moonlight, torchlight, and similar conditions of poor=20 illumination. They retain the ability to distinguish color and=20 detail under these conditions. =B7 +2 racial bonus to Listen, Search, and Spot checks: An elf who=20 merely passes within 5 feet of a secret or concealed door is entitled=20 to a Search check to notice it as if she were actively looking for=20 the door. An elf=92s senses are so keen that she practically has a=20 sixth sense about hidden portals. =B7 -2 racial penalty on saves versus spells and attacks that stun,=20 blind, deafen, or cause damage via visual or auditory=20 overstimulation: The drawback of elves=92 keen senses is that they are=20 more vulnerable to sensations that are so intense as to be=20 harmful. This includes spells such as color spray, sunbeam, sound=20 burst and shout but not spells like blindness/deafness, power word=20 blind, and power word stun, which do not work by overloading the=20 senses. =B7 Slow Natural Healing: One drawback of elves=92 great lifespan is=20 that just as it takes a long time for their bodies to mature and to=20 grow old, it takes a lot of time to heal. Elves recover =BD hp per=20 character level per day of rest if they engage in light, nonstrenuous=20 travel or activity, or 1 full hp per character level per day if they=20 do nothing but get complete bed rest (for other PC races it is 1 hp=20 and 1=BD hp, respectively). For instance, a wounded 1st level elf=20 requires 2 days of rest to regain 1 hp, or only 1 day if she does=20 nothing but rest. Combat or spellcasting prevents any healing for a=20 given day. Temporary ability damage heals at the rate of 1 point for=20 every 2 days of rest, or 1 point for each day of complete bed rest=20 (half the rate of other PC races). Elves benefit from magical=20 healing normally. =B7 No scrolls: Callarii do not have access to the Scribe Scroll feat=20 and can not use arcane scrolls despite being sorcerers. They can=20 decipher scrolls with read magic or a Spellcraft check if they=20 purchase one or more ranks, but cannot cast from them. Callarii=20 create and prefer to use magic items that are easy to use in combat,=20 certainly not spell completion items like scrolls. =B7 +1 racial bonus to attack rolls against orcs and goblinoids=20 (goblins, hobgoblins, and bugbears): The Callarii are trained in=20 special combat techniques to allow them to fight their traditional=20 enemies more effectively. =B7 +2 racial bonus to Ride checks, no penalty for bareback=20 riding: Callarii learn to ride horses without a saddle or stirrups=20 (just a bridle), and do not suffer the normal 5 bareback penalty to=20 Ride checks when doing so. =B7 Automatic Languages: Elven (Callarii dialect) and either Thyatian=20 or Traladaran; Other Language Options: Thyatian, Traladaran, Goblin,=20 Fairy, Orc, Gnome. For centuries, all Callarii have spoken Elven and=20 Traladaran, but now that the Thyatians seem to be =93in charge=94 of=20 human affairs, some younger elves place a higher priority on learning=20 Thyatian as their human tongue (especially those who aspire to join=20 the Duke=92s Elvenguard). Callarii selecting extra languages (due to=20 high intelligence or skill purchase) choose from among the languages=20 of their traditional enemies, demihuman neighbors, and whichever=20 human language they did not pick as automatic. =B7 Preferred occupational skills: Craft (armorsmithing, boatbuilding,=20 bowmaking, leatherworking, weaponsmithing), Profession (boating) =B7 Preferred weapons: long sword, dagger, and longbow =B7 Regional Feat: BOAT EXPERT [General -- Regional Callarii] You have a knack for boats, and are skilled in building, piloting,=20 buying, and selling them. Prerequisites: One rank in Craft (boatbuilding) and one rank in=20 Profession (boating). Benefit: You get a +2 to Craft (boatbuilding) skill checks,=20 Profession (boating) skill checks, and Appraise checks involving=20 boats. 0-LEVEL Dancing Lights. Figment torches or other lights. Daze. Creature loses next action. Detect Magic. Detects spells and magic items within 60 ft. Detect Poison. Detects poison in one creature or small object. Flare. Dazzles one creature (-1 attack). Ghost Sound. Figment sounds. Light. Object shines like a torch. Mending. Makes minor repairs on an object. Read Magic. Read scrolls and spellbooks. Resistance. Subject gains +1 on saving throws. 1st-LEVEL Alarm. Wards an area for 2 hours/level. Animal Friendship. Gains permanent animal companions. Calm Animals. Calms 2d4 +1/level HD of animals, beasts, and magical=20 beasts. Cause Fear. One creature flees for 1d4 rounds. Detect Animals or Plants. Detects species of animals or plants. Endure Elements. Ignores 5 damage/round from one energy type. Entangle. Plants entangle everyone in 40-ft.-radius circle. Expeditious Retreat. Doubles your speed. Faerie Fire. Outlines subjects with light, canceling blur,=20 concealment, etc. Jump. Subject gets +30 on Jump checks. Mage Armor. Gives subject +4 armor bonus. Magic Missile. 1d4+1 damage; +1 missile/two levels above 1st (max=20 +5). Magic Weapon. Weapon gains a +1 bonus. Message. Whispered conversation at a distance. Obscuring Mist. Fog surrounds you. Pass Without Trace. One subject/level leaves no tracks. Silent Image. Creates minor illusion of your design. Sleep. Put 2d4 HD of creatures into comatose slumber. Summon Nature=92s Ally I. Calls animal to fight for you. True Strike. Adds +20 bonus to your next attack roll. Ventriloquism. Throws voice for 1 min./level. 2nd-LEVEL Animal Messenger. Sends a Tiny animal to a specific place. Blur. Attacks miss subject 20% of the time. Bull=92s Strength. Subject gains 1d4+1 Str for 1 hr./level. Cat=92s Grace. Subject gains 1d4+1 Dex for 1 hr./level. Cure Light Wounds. Cures 1d8 + 1/level damage (max +5). Daylight. 60-ft radius of bright light. Delay Poison. Stops poison from harming subject for 1 hour/level. Endurance. Subject gains 1d4+1 Con for 1 hr./level. Fog Cloud. Fog obscures vision. Invisibility. Subject is invisible for 10 min./level or until it=20 attacks. Melf=92s Acid Arrow. Ranged touch attack; 2d4 damage for 1 round + 1=20 round/three levels. Minor Image. As silent image, plus some sound. Mirror Image. Creates decoy duplicates of you (1d4 + 1/three levels,=20 max 8). Protection from Arrows. Subject immune to most ranged attacks. Resist Elements. Ignores 12 damage/round from one energy type. Scare. Panics creatures up to 5 HD (15-ft. radius). See Invisibility. Reveals invisible creatures or objects. Silence. Negates sound on one creature or in 15-ft. radius. Speak with Animals. You can communicate with natural animals. Summon Nature=92s Ally II. Calls animal to fight for you. Summon Swarm. Summons swarm of small crawling or flying creatures. Warp Wood. Bends wood (shaft, handle, door, plank). Web. Fills 10-ft. cube/level with sticky spider webs. 3rd-LEVEL Blink. You randomly vanish and reappear for 1 round/level. Cure Moderate Wounds. Cures 2d8 +1/level damage (max +10). Dispel Magic. Cancels magical spells and effects. Displacement. Attacks miss subject 50%. Fly. Subject flies at speed of 90. Greater Magic Weapon. +1 bonus/three levels (max +5). Gust of Wind. Blows away or knocks down smaller creatures. Haste. Extra partial action and +4 AC. Hold Person. Holds one person helpless; 1 round/level. Invisibility Sphere. Makes everyone within 10 ft. invisible. Keen Edge. Doubles normal weapon=92s threat range. Major Image. As silent image, plus sound, smell, and thermal effects. Neutralize Poison. Detoxifies venom in or on subject. Protection from Elements. Absorb 12 damage/level from one kind of=20 energy. Slow. One subject/level takes only partial actions, -2 AC, -2 melee=20 rolls. Speak with Plants. You can talk to normal plants and plant creatures. Summon Nature=92s Ally III. Calls animal to fight for you. 4th-LEVEL Antiplant Shell. Keeps animated plants at bay. Confusion. Makes subject behave oddly for 1 round/level. Control Plants. Talk to and control plants and fungi. Cure Serious Wounds. Cures 3d8 + 1/level damage (max +15). Dimension Door. Teleports you and up to 500 lbs. Fear. Subjects within cone flee for 1 round/level. Freedom of Movement. Subject moves normally despite impediments. Giant Vermin. Turns insects into giant vermin. Hallucinatory Terrain. Makes one type of terrain appear like another=20 (field into forest, etc.). Hold Monster. As hold person, but any creature. Improved Invisibility. As invisibility, but subject can attack and=20 stay invisible. Locate Creature. Indicates direction to familiar creature. Polymorph Self. You assume a new form. Quench. Extinguishes nonmagical fires or one fire magic item. Repel Vermin. Insects stay 10 ft. away. Solid Fog. Blocks vision and slows movement. Summon Nature=92s Ally IV. Calls animal to fight for you. Magus Coeruleus ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 02:48:06 EST Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: "Larry E. Lamb" Subject: Re: Celtic Karameikos MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, what i liked about karameikos was the scocal class structure. It fit what i was trying to create. I wanted karameikos to be Celtic and thyits to be Romen. now, the other have been some what difacult, but i plan to use the ones thats the easest to identify with the panthoens on the legends and lore book. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 10:42:24 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Caroletti Subject: Re: Celtic Karameikos MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Larry E. Lamb" wrote: > Well, what i liked about karameikos was the scocal class structure. It fit > what i was trying to create. I wanted karameikos to be Celtic and thyits to > be Romen. now, the other have been some what difacult, but i plan to use the > ones thats the easest to identify with the panthoens on the legends and lore > book. Do you mean that you have difficulties using Thyatians as Romans? If it is a deity problem I have ideas for using Mystaran Immortals as direct counterparts of Roman gods (then using Greek gods from Legends and Lore for their stats and worshippers). Anyway, using Celts for the Karameikans would be a hard work...a lot of things should be changed. Do you have any ideas yet? Iulius Sergius Scaevola Captain of the XXth Cohort Port Lucinius, Thyatis ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 09:57:11 -0800 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: Ricardo Matheus Subject: Maps on Rules Cycl. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I noticed that the maps contained in the end of the Rules Cyclopedia are somewhat more detailed than those of the few gazzetters I have (for example one of the maps shows some lighthouses near Thyatis City that don�t appear on the map from DotE). Does somebody knows where those maps appeared originally? Or are they made especially for the RC? (they don�t give this impression) Darkblood (back from summer vacation and readying the next map for the Mystara Map Navigator) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 20:59:31 +0100 Reply-To: Mystara Sender: Mystara From: thibault sarlat Subject: Re: Maps on Rules Cycl. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i think they come from the Trail maps (TM series) Thibault Sarlat. ICQ 16622177. homepage http://www.mystara.com.bi Join me at: thibsylv@club-internet.fr or at clenarius@hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Ricardo Matheus To: Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 6:57 PM Subject: [MYSTARA] Maps on Rules Cycl. > I noticed that the maps contained in the end of the Rules Cyclopedia are > somewhat more detailed than those of the few gazzetters I have (for example > one of the maps shows some lighthouses near Thyatis City that don�t appear > on the map from DotE). Does somebody knows where those maps appeared > originally? Or are they made especially for the RC? (they don�t give this > impression) > > Darkblood > (back from summer vacation and readying the next map for the Mystara Map > Navigator) > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message.