Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 wolffenjugend_dup Sep 15, 2005 20:28:34	Is the Horax having skills a mistake? Normally mindless vermin don't receive any skills. I checked the errata for the Bestiary of Krynn but there was nothing there...
#2 wolf72 Sep 16, 2005 18:57:19	i believe the SRD agrees with you about vermin, but any skills they have are based off of their abilities and racial bonuses (so 0 ranks)
#3 wolffenjugend_dup Sep 16, 2005 20:13:57	Huh? How do you figure that?
#4 wolf72 Sep 17, 2005 21:08:11	Skill points equal to (2 + Int modifier, minimum 1) per Hit Die, with quadruple skill points for the first Hit Die, if the vermin has an Intelligence score. However, most vermin are mindless and gain no skill points or feats. (emphasis mine) If you check under Vermin in the SRD all the vermin only have skills listed if they have an ability modifier or racial bonus. At one time I could have sworn it was written (3.0 maybe?) ... oh, well that's all I have to go on.
#5 wolffenjugend_dup Sep 18, 2005 9:07:32	Horax only have a racial bonus to Climb. That doesn't explain the other two skills...
#6 wolf72 Sep 18, 2005 20:06:46	sorry dude, that's all I got you're completely correct, climb should only be +10 (8 racial bonus +2 str) and it shouldn't have anything for listen/spot (they got 14 skill points from somewhere). maybe Cam will stop in and clear the issue up ... in the mean time I'd just give it those extra ranks, or take 'em away ... your choice.
#7 cam_banks Sep 18, 2005 21:14:28	I'll see if the horax's author can shed some light on it for you folks... Cheers, Cam
#8 cam_banks Sep 18, 2005 21:30:32	The horax has 14 skill ranks it shouldn't have. Drop the Climb bonus by 4 ranks, and add Alertness as a bonus feat, which drops the Listen and Spot down to +2. You're good to go. Cheers, Cam
#9 wolffenjugend_dup Sep 19, 2005 5:32:57	Thanks all!
#10 wolffenjugend_dup Nov 22, 2005 16:09:53	Should it lose its feats too?
#11 wolf72 Nov 22, 2005 17:00:50	Should it lose its feats too? technically yes, but you can make them bonus feats instead
#12 neuro Nov 28, 2005 0:21:40	Is the Horax having skills a mistake? Normally mindless vermin don't receive any skills. I checked the errata for the Bestiary of Krynn but there was nothing there... Wait... errata? where?!
#13 wolf72 Dec 01, 2005 21:03:51	Wait... errata? where?! go to dragonlancenexus.com (i think that's right) ... look under products and errata.