Help? Opinions on Athasian Paladin?

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#1

zombiegleemax

Sep 20, 2005 6:02:09
I found this on my computer. I made it awhile ago and I can't remember exactly how I decided on the build. Could some people take a look at it and give some comments? Specifically the monarch's tattoos: are they too powerful?
thanks
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Paladins

Good saves: fort, ref
Bad save: will
BAB: good
Hit Dice: d10

Secular Authority: as a templar.
Detect Magic: at will as per the spell.
Smite: Add Cha mod to attack and class level to damage.
Monarch's Blessing: Add Cha mod to all saves
Deadly Touch: Deal cha mod x class level in damage each day by touch
Damage Reduction: as a barbarian
Sneak Attack: as a rogue
Monarch's Tattoo I: Gain spell resistance equal to class level + 10
Monarch's Tattoo II: Gain power resistance equal to class level +10

1st: Detect Magic, Secular Authority, smite 1/day
2nd: Monarch's Blessing, Deadly Touch
3rd: Sneak Attack 1d6
4th: Damage reduction 1/-
5th: Smite 2/day
6th: Sneak Attack 2d6
7th:
8th:
9th: Damage reduction 2/-, Sneak Attack 3d6
10th: Smite 3/day
11th: Monarch's Tattoo I
12th: Sneak Attack 4d6
13th: Monarch's Tattoo II
14th: Damage reduction 3/-
15th: Smite 4/day, Sneak Attack 5d6
16th:
17th:
18th: Sneak Attack 6d6
19th: Damage reduction 4/-
20th: Smite 5/day
#2

elonarc

Sep 20, 2005 6:14:43
1. Why good Fortitude and Reflex saves, but bad Will save? Fortitude and Will or rather just Fortitude fit better IMHO. The class gets Monarch's Blessing after all.

2. Skills are missing.

3. The class abilities are WAY too powerful. Good BAB + Paladin abilities, but no spells, mount and cure disease. OK. But you make up for by giving the class
-the Templar's secular authority
and
-the Rogue's sneak attack
and
-the Barbarian's damage reduction
and
-spell resistance
and
-psionic resistance

Notice something wrong? I do. The class is seriously overpowered. Munchkin-size overpowered.
#3

zombiegleemax

Sep 20, 2005 7:29:40
any suggestions? like i said, i found this on my computer while going through old files and i don't even remember making it, so it's probably at least a year and a half old maybe. i dunno. it's also incomplete, as no skills show. i think all i did really was take a paladin, remove the spells and mount and stuff and try to add in some blackguard, and then lose interest and leave it incomplete in a folder titled "random stuff" . . . which is the place i dump random things i don't feel like dealing with at the moment. i was cleaning out old files and "dealing with" some of them finally, and came across this. so . . .

I dunno, maybe I should just dump the idea entirely
#4

kalthandrix

Sep 20, 2005 8:29:03
It looks pretty cool and kinda simular to Xlore's Athasian Paladin.

If you have time, I would like to see the completed write up of this class- It could also be something that could be converted into a PrC instead of a core class if your were so inclined.
#5

xlorepdarkhelm_dup

Sep 20, 2005 8:33:45
That reminds me, I have to retrofit my paladin write-up, I've made some changes, fusing in some of the features of the Marshal class from the Miniatures Handbook, while removing some of the redundancy of the Paladin's abilities.
#6

ruhl-than_sage

Sep 20, 2005 18:01:47
How do you justify to sneak attack and the DR, when I saw those I was like