Galdra

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#1

nytcrawlr

Nov 07, 2005 9:07:55
Kalthandrix wrote:
#2

kalthandrix

Nov 07, 2005 10:15:52
I just wanted it to be different then some of the other weapons out there- not like a spinoff of a Shatterspike.

It is too bad the the parry rules are kind of hard to use because that would be the best method to use with this weapon- Well liek I said, it was a rough idea that I had been playing with.

I do think that we should go with the idea I told you about with the original blade being taken apart and several elven tribes having a part of it- which would substanciate their belief that their tribe is the 'one' with the real blade. How many parts could we get out of that idea though- blade, cross guard, hilt, pommel, maybe some kind of jewel that rests in the hilt- so what like 5.
#3

nytcrawlr

Nov 07, 2005 10:41:06
I do think that we should go with the idea I told you about with the original blade being taken apart and several elven tribes having a part of it- which would substanciate their belief that their tribe is the 'one' with the real blade. How many parts could we get out of that idea though- blade, cross guard, hilt, pommel, maybe some kind of jewel that rests in the hilt- so what like 5.

I was thinking more of the blade shattered and the pieces were used to forge the weapons the elven tribe leaders have now.
#4

kalthandrix

Nov 07, 2005 10:59:10
I was thinking more of the blade shattered and the pieces were used to forge the weapons the elven tribe leaders have now.

So now that the pieces are forged into other blades- who would it ever become some weapon again? Or is it that we are not making the weapon as it might be in the current era, but when it was still in the hands of the elven king?

Oooh- here is an idea to play of of yours- the original blade was totally covered with runes, from tip to tang, edge and everything. When the blade was shattered, the peices were taken and reforged as you said, but the pieces of the original blade, while part of a new weapon, are still distinctive due to the runes that the peice still bears- so each blade that has a section would be different, maybe unmaked except for the section of the original blade that is forged into the new weapon.
#5

nytcrawlr

Nov 07, 2005 12:35:11
Hmmmm, let me re-think this. This is starting to get away from my initial plan that Sorak did indeed have Galdra, but since he wasn't the "chosen one" it was able to be broken as easily as it was.

I was later going to have Sorak die as he went on a quest to fix the blade then have the blade pieces be lost (can't remember if the blade disentegrated or shattered into several pieces right now). Later a half-elf NPC idea that has been floating in my grey matter for quite some time was going to stumble upon it, and I was going to make her the "chosen one".

Let me ponder some more....
#6

squidfur-

Nov 07, 2005 16:09:23
Hmmmm, let me re-think this. This is starting to get away from my initial plan that Sorak did indeed have Galdra, but since he wasn't the "chosen one" it was able to be broken as easily as it was.

I was later going to have Sorak die as he went on a quest to fix the blade then have the blade pieces be lost (can't remember if the blade disentegrated or shattered into several pieces right now). Later a half-elf NPC idea that has been floating in my grey matter for quite some time was going to stumble upon it, and I was going to make her the "chosen one".

Let me ponder some more....

Nice. I like where this is going. Hope to hear the rest soon.
#7

kalthandrix

Nov 07, 2005 20:40:34
Hmmmm, let me re-think this. This is starting to get away from my initial plan that Sorak did indeed have Galdra, but since he wasn't the "chosen one" it was able to be broken as easily as it was.

I was later going to have Sorak die as he went on a quest to fix the blade then have the blade pieces be lost (can't remember if the blade disentegrated or shattered into several pieces right now). Later a half-elf NPC idea that has been floating in my grey matter for quite some time was going to stumble upon it, and I was going to make her the "chosen one".

Let me ponder some more....

Well all of my ideas were for a present day 'what happened to the kings swor' type of scenero- I plan on doing a write up on just the blade- whole and everything- and if it can be worked into a story arc later be individual DMs well that would be just swell.
#8

nytcrawlr

Nov 08, 2005 7:02:25
Well all of my ideas were for a present day 'what happened to the kings swor' type of scenero- I plan on doing a write up on just the blade- whole and everything- and if it can be worked into a story arc later be individual DMs well that would be just swell.

Works for me. Though I do like your idea I just think it's best to write it up whole like you are saying and take it from there.

Which is what I was initially going to do as well.

As far as my idea, I always had it planned that a non-full blooded elf was going to be the new elven leader to unite the tribes. Always seemed a far more interesting idea to have it be a half breed, whether it was Sorak or a half-elf or something. And I like the concept of Sorak and all, I just think he's fulfilled his role and can die now while trying to live his "destiny".
#9

kalthandrix

Nov 08, 2005 7:11:48
I was looking through Weapons of Legacy last night for ideas for another weapon and I seen this one ability that would be great for Galdra- IIRC is was called deflect strike- it was like exceptional deflecton in that it could deflect ranged attacks and ray-effects.

I think something like that, some ability boost to Dex and Cha for elven wielders, and ability to do some wicked sundering are going to be the core of the version of Galdra that I write up.
#10

nytcrawlr

Nov 08, 2005 7:29:33
I was looking through Weapons of Legacy last night for ideas for another weapon and I seen this one ability that would be great for Galdra- IIRC is was called deflect strike- it was like exceptional deflecton in that it could deflect ranged attacks and ray-effects.

I think something like that, some ability boost to Dex and Cha for elven wielders, and ability to do some wicked sundering are going to be the core of the version of Galdra that I write up.

Cool. I would also have it give a decent deflection bonus to AC or something similar, but the Dex boost might be enough there depending on how much you give.

What about also giving the wielder the Leadership feat, and if they already have it give them another Cha boost or something?
#11

kalthandrix

Nov 08, 2005 7:39:21
Cool. I would also have it give a decent deflection bonus to AC or something similar, but the Dex boost might be enough there depending on how much you give.

What about also giving the wielder the Leadership feat, and if they already have it give them another Cha boost or something?

Good idea- I will do a preliminary write up on the basic sword abilities sometime today or tomorrow.
#12

kalthandrix

Nov 08, 2005 15:44:25
Here youu go Nyt- This is a rough draft at this point but I think it is cool.

Galdra, the Sword of Elven Kings

Defending, ghost touched, speed, elven longblade +6

This weapon also grants the wielder the following abilities-

• Galdra ignores the hardness of all items when used to make Sunder attacks.

• All elves that are friendly with the wielder are effected with greater heroism while within a 30' radius when the sword is used in battle.

• Galdra is the sword of the elven kings, and as such elves will seek out the wielder in order to join him. The wielders Leadership score is +20 when determining the number of followers he has (this increase does not apply to the level of a cohort). The wielder is considered to have the Leadership feat while this weapon is in their possession. All followes gained are of elven-blood.

Galdra also grants the wielder the following feats while it is being wielded-

• Exceptional Deflection

• Infinite Deflection

• Superior Iniatitive

#13

nytcrawlr

Nov 08, 2005 15:54:45
Here youu go Nyt- This is a rough draft at this point but I think it is cool.

#14

nytcrawlr

Nov 08, 2005 21:29:22
Nice. I like where this is going. Hope to hear the rest soon.

I will try to have a little more posted to the boards tomorrow work permitting. I want to be careful though cause I think I have at least one player wandering around this board from time to time and don't want to give too much away before the campaign starts sometime after football season is over.

Kal - How about adding something in the special weaknesses category where the sword can only be sundered if it's not in the hands of the "true" leader (whomever that may be in each individual DM's campaign), and when in the "true" leader's hands it is immune to sundering. Or maybe gets a bonus to not being sundered when in the "true" leader's hands.

I was also thinking that maybe the radius effect of greater heroism should be extended some, maybe to 60', or give a few more things to the elven followers to boost them some.

Can't think of anything right now, but I will sleep on it.
#15

kalthandrix

Nov 08, 2005 22:05:18
I will try to have a little more posted to the boards tomorrow work permitting. I want to be careful though cause I think I have at least one player wandering around this board from time to time and don't want to give too much away before the campaign starts sometime after football season is over.

Kal - How about adding something in the special weaknesses category where the sword can only be sundered if it's not in the hands of the "true" leader (whomever that may be in each individual DM's campaign), and when in the "true" leader's hands it is immune to sundering. Or maybe gets a bonus to not being sundered when in the "true" leader's hands.

I was also thinking that maybe the radius effect of greater heroism should be extended some, maybe to 60', or give a few more things to the elven followers to boost them some.

Can't think of anything right now, but I will sleep on it.

I like the special weakness- I will include it when I do some more writing on it (need to really finish the OM I think before I get too far with this weapon).

As for the radius- consifder it done. But, as for additional bonuses for elven followers- well I do not see what else they really need- they get a +4 moral bonus on attacks, saves, and skill checks, they are immune to fear, and they get temporary hit points (which I will have based on the level of the wielder just for a little twist). I think that this makes elven followers of the blade wielder pretty buffed up and anything more would be straight over kill -> Put your power gamer away for tonight Nytcrawlr :D :P

For the increased sunder resistance when wielded by the 'true' leader- well I think I will take a little some thing from my favorite PrC in the Book of Exalted Deeds- the Anointed Knight and when wielded by the 'true' leader of the elves, Galdra will gain +10 hardness and +50 hp (in addition to what it would normally get for being uber-enchanted). That will make it darn near indestructible!
#16

nytcrawlr

Nov 08, 2005 22:14:11
Put your power gamer away for tonight Nytcrawlr :D :P

"Small nuke! Must be a small nuke!!!!"

:D

Seriously, I forgotten how kick ass greater heroism truly is, and I like your idea of basing it off of the character level of the wielder.

Also digging the sunder stuff, totally forgot about that PrC, stopped looking at Exalted Deeds (despite how much it rocks!) since I'm not allowing most of that book in my DS campaigns.

Good stuff Kal.
#17

kalthandrix

Nov 08, 2005 22:21:00
"Small nuke! Must be a small nuke!!!!"

:D

Seriously, I forgotten how kick ass greater heroism truly is, and I like your idea of basing it off of the character level of the wielder.

Also digging the sunder stuff, totally forgot about that PrC, stopped looking at Exalted Deeds (despite how much it rocks!) since I'm not allowing most of that book in my DS campaigns.

Good stuff Kal.

Thanks Nyt-

Ya the BoED is a great book- IMC Oronis has several features from it and I allow (if anyone were to play one) his templars to take some of the feats from there too. Also, I have Levitan the Calm (?spelling? -the h-g psion in Raam) with the Vow of Poverty feat and all of the cool (for an NPC) abilities.

As for the spell effect- well the personal power of the king of elves is personified in Galdra.
#18

kalthandrix

Nov 09, 2005 7:35:05
Okay Nytcrawlr- I am back and recharged for another day! Did you have any great revelations during the night?
#19

nytcrawlr

Nov 09, 2005 7:58:26
Okay Nytcrawlr- I am back and recharged for another day! Did you have any great revelations during the night?

Still pondering.

Work is pretty slow so far, so I should be able to get something churned out here shortly on that NPC idea I had. Will probably just be a short story at first.

As far as Galdra, I haven't come up with anything else new. I think we are good for now and I might write up some fluff for it if you want.
#20

kalthandrix

Nov 09, 2005 8:10:52
Still pondering.

Work is pretty slow so far, so I should be able to get something churned out here shortly on that NPC idea I had. Will probably just be a short story at first.

As far as Galdra, I haven't come up with anything else new. I think we are good for now and I might write up some fluff for it if you want.

Ya that would be fine if you wanted to do the fluff- I have several other projects that are urning for my attention (darn OM will not get off my back). I will do a full write up on the abilities of Galdra and e-mail it to you so it and the fluff can be in one doc and post- I should be able to get it done sometime this morning.
#21

nytcrawlr

Nov 09, 2005 8:20:53
I think something like that, some ability boost to Dex and Cha for elven wielders

You still plan on adding these? Like maybe a +5 to both or something, hmmmm.
#22

kalthandrix

Nov 09, 2005 8:47:17
You still plan on adding these? Like maybe a +5 to both or something, hmmmm.

Naa- overkill with the other abilities like the defending and the bump for leadership I thought more then covered both of those in a better way then a straight ability stat boost.

I just e-mailed you the word doc with the ability write up- let me know if you think something should be tweeked, but I thank it is tops right now.
#23

kalthandrix

Nov 09, 2005 19:02:27
Well I believe that the abilities of Galdra have been hammered out pretty well between Nytcrawlr and I.

I am thinking that I will wait to post the final version of its abilities until Nyt gets the fluff text finished so it can all go together in one doc- so if anyone is wanting to see this thing soon poke Nyt with a stick or other sharp objrct- but becareful not to disable his hands because he will need those to type :D
#24

kalthandrix

Nov 10, 2005 10:19:38
Alright everyone- here is the finished version put together by Nytcrawlr and myself.

Let us know what you think!

Galdra, the Sword of Elven Kings

In ages past, before the great wars and extinction of several of the green races, there existed one green race known as the elves. These people once lived in the skies looking down upon the newly formed world of green land and blue skies and as the years passed the elves became content with their life, all but one, and his name was Coraanu.

Coraanu fled the elven civilizations of the age and ran across the night sky fleeing them, until he could find a place of his own. Coraanu raced across the land, gathering elves anywhere he went to join his new tribe, and finally after centuries of running and gathering, his tribe was finally perfect, and with it spawned even more perfect tribes that mimicked his first, the original Star Racers. Sometime during the long years of Coraanu’s run, he forged a blade of great beauty and strength, a perfect reflection of his people. In this blade he captured starlight to remind him of his people’s first home in the sky and he named it Galdra.

Finally, the inevitable came, and war spread across the land, wars that were meant to rid the world of the abominations that were the green races. Coraanu, with Galdra at his side, used his influence with his people to get them to unite as one once more and fight back against those who would wipe them from the face of Athas.

Centuries past and battles were won and lost. On and on the battles waged, never ending it seemed, and slowly Coraanu knew sorrow, for he realized that to continue in this struggle would be the death of his beloved people. So finally, with one desperate act Coraanu took up Galdra, which had become a symbol of the elven unity, and shattered it across his leg. He then held it aloft for all elves to see that their race was indeed broken and he told his people to break up and flee, so that this enemy could not be destroy them all. He told them to never forget the old ways, and to always tell the creation story of the elves through song and dance on the anniversary of this day from this point forward, for their kingdom was shattered, as was Galdra. Remember he told them, fore someday this blade may be whole again and on that day so too would be the elven people.

With that Coraanu took the broken symbol of the elves and watched as his people scattered to the winds. Once the last of the elves were gone from his sight, Coraanu took the shards of Galdra and hid them in various regions of the world, only keeping with him at all times only the hilt that still had a portion of the once mighty blade attached, to remind him of what had been lost.

No one is sure what happened after that, much was lost in the stories and those that tell it only remember what is now after that fateful day. However, rumors have spread that Coraanu is still alive, and Galdra has reformed whole again, and praises are sung with dance that the day will soon come when the first Star Racer, Coraanu, will bring back the symbol of the elven race with him and unite all elves into one tribe again, and when that times comes they will never falter again under their faithful leader and symbol of all elven kind.

Quietly Galdra beckons to the true heir of Coraanu Star Racer, and soon it shall be heard and sought out, for all elven kind…


Description

To most, Galdra looks like an ordinary elven longblade forged of steel and of beautiful design. The truth of the weapon’s true beauty is only revealed when taken up by the heir of Coraanu, when that occurs, the blade shines brightly, its beauty more noticeable, and a song is felt in every heart that holds elven blood. Small runes, etched into the blade begin to appear when taken up by the true heir, one for each of the original elven tribes that Coraanu helped create. The blade itself looks like steel, but is actually made of a long forgotten white metal that appears to be always shiny and slightly warm to the touch, like a stone left in the sun. The hilt and pommel are one piece and made of the same metal as the blade with the hilt tightly wrapped with strands of Coraanu’s own hair. The cross piece is made of sturdy ivory and has markings which are unknown to most sages of today, but it has been assumed that the runes are written in the language of the first elves of the green era.

Powers

Galdra is a defending, ghost touched, speed, elven longblade +6

This weapon also grants the wielder the following abilities-

• Galdra ignores the hardness of all items when used to make Sunder attacks.

When taken up by the true heir of the elven kingdom the blade shines like a star and it is by this sign that the elven people will know that their king is among them. In the hands of the true heir, Galdra glows with a clear, steady radiance, shedding light out to a 10’ radius surrounding the wielder and with it the full might of this weapon is truly awoken.

The following abilities are only active when wielded by the true heir.

Unwavering Strength. Throughout its existence, this blade has never wavered in battle nor shied away from the horrors that are produced upon a field of battle. As such, the wielder of Galdra is immune to effects that produce exhaustion, fatigue, fear and shaken conditions and he gains a +6 morale bonus to all saving throws while this blade is held during battle.

Rally to the King. Anyone of elven blood, that are friendly to the wielder are affected with greater heroism while within a 60' radius when the sword is used in battle. The duration of the spell and the bonus temporary hit points granted with this effect are determined by the wielder’s character level. The wielder of Galdra does not gain the benefits of this spell.

Forge the Nation. Galdra is the sword of the elven kings, and as such elves will seek out the wielder in order to join him. The wielder is considered to have the Epic Leadership feat while this weapon is in their possession and they gain a +20 morale bonus to their Leadership score for determining the number of followers he has. The bonus to the bearer’s Leadership score gained from this weapon does not grant a cohort if the wielder did not have the Leadership feat before gaining Galdra, nor does the increase allow for a higher level of cohort if the wielder had one before obtaining Galdra. All followers gained are of elven-blood.

Unbreakable. In the hands of any but the true heir to the elven throne, this weapon has a hardness of 11 and 32 hit points. When taken up by its true heir, Galdra is neigh unbreakable. Its hardness becomes 44 and it now has 140 hit points. If the weapon is ever broken, the shards of Galdra will always remain in the vicinity of the largest piece unless magical means are used to prevent this.

The true heir of this blade is able to shatter this weapon at will, but doing so causes the blade to never again function for that person and they loose all benefits the weapon provided (i.e. followers gained from the increased Leadership score). It is believed that this is what happed when the last elven king lived and the elven nation became nothing more then separate tribes.

Galdra also grants the true heir the following feats while it is being wielded-

Exceptional Deflection

Infinite Deflection

Superior Initiative

#25

nytcrawlr

Nov 10, 2005 10:25:30
It's so beautiful!

#26

kalthandrix

Nov 10, 2005 10:33:43
It's so beautiful!


I know- we do great work!! :D *pats self on back*
#27

kalthandrix

Nov 10, 2005 13:03:17
Hey Nyt- they all must be stunned by the collective awesomeness of our work- as it appears everyone has been struck speechless
#28

nytcrawlr

Nov 10, 2005 13:13:28
Well, we must have done something right. We are up to 177 views.

:D
#29

kalthandrix

Nov 10, 2005 13:26:51
Well, we must have done something right. We are up to 177 views.

:D

Ya but how many of those are your and mine? Oh well-

I will send the like to the archive thread to have it posted there when Pennarin gets the time.
#30

nytcrawlr

Nov 10, 2005 13:43:00
Ya but how many of those are your and mine?

It can't be that many.

Especially since the cookies the forums holds seem to be smart and only count you once per login, no matter how many times you view a particular thread.

At least, that is how I'm seeing it work so far.
#31

Pennarin

Nov 10, 2005 14:30:45
What powers did Galdra confer on Sorak?
#32

nytcrawlr

Nov 10, 2005 14:35:15
What powers did Galdra confer on Sorak?

Galdra from the ToO novels was all about deflecting attacks and sundering the attacker's weapon.

There wasn't anything directly that it confered onto Sorak from what I remember, but what it could do in the novels seemed pretty limited.
#33

Pennarin

Nov 10, 2005 14:46:19
Galdra from the ToO novels was all about deflecting attacks and sundering the attacker's weapon.

There wasn't anything directly that it confered onto Sorak from what I remember, but what it could do in the novels seemed pretty limited.

So Sorak did not gain the following?
Galdra also grants the true heir the following feats while it is being wielded-

• Exceptional Deflection

• Infinite Deflection

• Superior Initiative

#34

nytcrawlr

Nov 10, 2005 14:58:49
So Sorak did not gain the following?

He more or less did, but the novels also made Sorak, or at least alluded to it, that he was the "true heir". I'm changing that story and saying he isn't and leaving it up to the DM to fill that gap.
#35

kalthandrix

Nov 10, 2005 15:21:32
I should probably point out that I did not even look in the ToO books when I was designing the abilities of this weapon :embarrass

I basically went with what I thought would be cool and from the little I remember from when I read the books (the shattering of all weapons was the only thing that stuck out in my mind really)- the one time I read them when they first came out about what, 10 years ago!
#36

nytcrawlr

Nov 10, 2005 15:32:01
I should probably point out that I did not even look in the ToO books when I was designing the abilities of this weapon :embarrass

It's all good man. Between the ideas I gave you and what idea you initially had you did a damn good job with it and come pretty close to what I was envisioning for the sword.
#37

kalthandrix

Nov 13, 2005 17:51:52
Hey Nyt- I had an idea today that I think should be added to the weapon.

I was thinking that anyone wielding Galdra should get a +10 circumstance bonus to diplomacy checks when dealing with anyone of elven blood and the heir should enjoy a +20 to the same skill or all elven people should automatically be considered two catagories higher when determining their attitude toward the true wielder of Galdra.

IIRC in the ToO books, elves who recognized the blade Sorak had were much more helpful then they normally were.
#38

squidfur-

Nov 13, 2005 22:07:37
I'd say yeah, but only to those of elven blood (elves, half-elves, elf-tareks, dwelfs, and elflings). I think if they saw a human, for example, an elf would see it as his duty to reclaim the sword for elvenkind.
#39

lyric

Nov 14, 2005 0:21:04
I do recall the blade having a great ability to slice through objects and people (when in the hands of the right weilder, whether that was Sorak or an elf)

Also, do you think there should be a curse associated with the blade? Something making 'some' elves work against the weilder of Galdra? Or that they want the sword for themselves? You could even toss in there that the SK's would be out to get the weilder (as they would be)...

And what about the factor of the sword breaking when used by a defiler?? (not just held, but used in an attack) it should shatter and blind (at least temporarily) the weilder, maybe even harming him.

These are abilities I recall from the book.. Thoughts?

I like what you have so far though, very much...

(sorry I've been away from the forum so long, been hunting around other boards)..
#40

nytcrawlr

Nov 14, 2005 7:00:36
I was thinking that anyone wielding Galdra should get a +10 circumstance bonus to diplomacy checks when dealing with anyone of elven blood and the heir should enjoy a +20 to the same skill or all elven people should automatically be considered two catagories higher when determining their attitude toward the true wielder of Galdra.

IIRC in the ToO books, elves who recognized the blade Sorak had were much more helpful then they normally were.

Yeah, I remember that too.

I'd say do the +10 for any elven wielder, then two categories higher for the true heir.
#41

nytcrawlr

Nov 14, 2005 7:06:46
Also, do you think there should be a curse associated with the blade? Something making 'some' elves work against the weilder of Galdra? Or that they want the sword for themselves? You could even toss in there that the SK's would be out to get the weilder (as they would be)...

I don't recall that being mentioned in the novels anywhere, but it's been awhile since I've read those books.

And what about the factor of the sword breaking when used by a defiler?? (not just held, but used in an attack) it should shatter and blind (at least temporarily) the weilder, maybe even harming him.

Now I do remember that since you bring it up. We should definately work something like this into Galdra Kal.
#42

lyric

Nov 14, 2005 9:28:25
the part i mentioned about working against the weilder, is simply saying that some elves might see him with the sword, and say, "That's not my king, slay the imposter!" and be suspicious of the sword really being Galdra, and attempt to kill the weilder as a con artist, and steal the sword in case it is real, to place it in the hands of a "true" elf... (and of course, try to place their tribe on top)... more of a situational thing.. I just recall in the books an elf here or there who turned on Sorak, not trusting him. I think the elf in question was tribal...

though this doesn't have to be a part of the swod, a dm could simply add it in himself as a plot advancement
#43

kalthandrix

Nov 14, 2005 18:52:02
I don't recall that being mentioned in the novels anywhere, but it's been awhile since I've read those books.

Now I do remember that since you bring it up. We should definately work something like this into Galdra Kal.

I will do something to the weapon to add the diplomacy thing to it and also put in there about the weapon shattering if used by a defiler- I had forgot about that part too. I may get to it tonight, but more then likely it will have to wait until this weekend- I want it to be cool and I am prety busy this week at work.

Thanks for your input Lyric!!
#44

lyric

Nov 14, 2005 19:58:11
hey Kal, what are friends for eh? If it weren't for you guys, there would be significantly less cool stuff in the dark sun world keep up the good work!

Oh hey, I don't recall if I mentioned or if anyone mentioned... doesn't the sword act as a sword of sharpness?? (does that still exist in 3e??) it slices through anything in the hands of the right weilder..
#45

kalthandrix

Nov 14, 2005 21:11:46
hey Kal, what are friends for eh? If it weren't for you guys, there would be significantly less cool stuff in the dark sun world keep up the good work!

Oh hey, I don't recall if I mentioned or if anyone mentioned... doesn't the sword act as a sword of sharpness?? (does that still exist in 3e??) it slices through anything in the hands of the right weilder..

Well, the way I see it- the whole sharpness aspect could be explained by the crit range of the weapon and the ability that they weapon has to ignore an items hardness.

I did make something that was like sharpness- it was the deep cutting weapon enchantment at increased the critical multiplier- but something like that may be overkill at this point IMO.

Thanks for the props Lyric- if you have time, I could always use your help adding to the coolness with the NPC Guide project I am organizing- so far it is just WolfHeart and myself. Drop me a line and let me know if you got the time
#46

lyric

Nov 15, 2005 0:15:16
I just seem to vaguely recall Sorak placing the sword in the hands of a gladiator in tyr (someone from one of the main series? I don't recall, memory is very faint) the gladiator swung the sword at a table, and it bit into the table.. then sorak swung at the table.. and chopped right through it.. if you're mechanic acheives the same thing, I say good as is.. especially if the ability is only available to an appropriate user of the sword.

As for the NPC deal.. I'm intrigued, tell me more. I think I may have some time
#47

Pennarin

Nov 15, 2005 0:39:56
Er, mmm, ur...Kal and Nyt, you should fast reread (or read) ToO, just to be safe.
#48

nytcrawlr

Nov 15, 2005 8:26:29
Er, mmm, ur...Kal and Nyt, you should fast reread (or read) ToO, just to be safe.

Why, what are we missing?

I remember enough from the books to at least make stats for Galdra and what it was capable of, I just forgot the whole defiler thing (which is pretty important I know).

If we are missing anything else that is just as important, please let us know.
#49

kalthandrix

Nov 15, 2005 19:07:57
Hey Nyt- i sent you a revised version. Let me know if you like the changes and I will repost.
#50

kalthandrix

Nov 15, 2005 20:48:26
Here you are- a revised version of Galdra- per feedback received from you fellows.
Galdra, the Sword of Elven Kings

In ages past, before the great wars and extinction of several of the green races, there existed one green race known as the elves. These people once lived in the skies looking down upon the newly formed world of green land and blue skies and as the years passed the elves became content with their life, all but one, and his name was Coraanu.

Coraanu fled the elven civilizations of the age and ran across the night sky fleeing them, until he could find a place of his own. Coraanu raced across the land, gathering elves anywhere he went to join his new tribe, and finally after centuries of running and gathering, his tribe was finally perfect, and with it spawned even more perfect tribes that mimicked his first, the original Star Racers. Sometime during the long years of Coraanu’s run, he forged a blade of great beauty and strength, a perfect reflection of his people. In this blade he captured starlight to remind him of his people’s first home in the sky and he named it Galdra.

Finally, the inevitable came, and war spread across the land, wars that were meant to rid the world of the abominations that were the green races. Coraanu, with Galdra at his side, used his influence with his people to get them to unite as one once more and fight back against those who would wipe them from the face of Athas.

Centuries past and battles were won and lost. On and on the battles waged, never ending it seemed, and slowly Coraanu knew sorrow, for he realized that to continue in this struggle would be the death of his beloved people. So finally, with one desperate act Coraanu took up Galdra, which had become a symbol of the elven unity, and shattered it across his leg. He then held it aloft for all elves to see that their race was indeed broken and he told his people to break up and flee, so that this enemy could not be destroy them all. He told them to never forget the old ways, and to always tell the creation story of the elves through song and dance on the anniversary of this day from this point forward, for their kingdom was shattered, as was Galdra. Remember he told them, fore someday this blade may be whole again and on that day so too would be the elven people.

With that Coraanu took the broken symbol of the elves and watched as his people scattered to the winds. Once the last of the elves were gone from his sight, Coraanu took the shards of Galdra and hid them in various regions of the world, only keeping with him at all times only the hilt that still had a portion of the once mighty blade attached, to remind him of what had been lost.

No one is sure what happened after that, much was lost in the stories and those that tell it only remember what is now after that fateful day. However, rumors have spread that Coraanu is still alive, and Galdra has reformed whole again, and praises are sung with dance that the day will soon come when the first Star Racer, Coraanu, will bring back the symbol of the elven race with him and unite all elves into one tribe again, and when that times comes they will never falter again under their faithful leader and symbol of all elven kind.

Quietly Galdra beckons to the true heir of Coraanu Star Racer, and soon it shall be heard and sought out, for all elven kind…


Description

To most, Galdra looks like an ordinary elven longblade forged of steel and of beautiful design. The truth of the weapon’s true beauty is only revealed when taken up by the heir of Coraanu, when that occurs, the blade shines brightly, its beauty more noticeable, and a song is felt in every heart that holds elven blood. Small runes, etched into the blade begin to appear when taken up by the true heir, one for each of the original elven tribes that Coraanu helped create. The blade itself looks like steel, but is actually made of a long forgotten white metal that appears to be always shiny and slightly warm to the touch, like a stone left in the sun. The hilt and pommel are one piece and made of the same metal as the blade with the hilt tightly wrapped with strands of Coraanu’s own hair. The cross piece is made of sturdy ivory and has markings which are unknown to most sages of today, but it has been assumed that the runes are written in the language of the first elves of the green era.


Powers

Galdra is a defending, ghost touched, speed, elven longblade +6

This weapon also grants the wielder the following abilities-

Galdra ignores the hardness of all items when used to make Sunder attacks.

Galdra grants a +10 morale bonus to any elven wielder when it comes to all Diplomacy checks made with anyone of elven blood.

When taken up by the true heir of the elven kingdom the blade shines like a star and it is by this sign that the elven people will know that their king is among them. In the hands of the true heir, Galdra glows with a clear, steady radiance, shedding light out to a 10’ radius surrounding the wielder and with it the full might of this weapon is truly awoken.

The following abilities are only active when wielded by the true heir.

Assist the Heir. Anyone of elven blood who sees Galdra will be much more helpful then normal. Consider their attitude to be two categories higher when it comes to determining NPC reactions toward the heir of Coraanu, as well negotiation outcomes when resolving Diplomacy checks.

Unwavering Strength. Throughout its existence, this blade has never wavered in battle nor shied away from the horrors that are produced upon a field of battle. As such, the wielder of Galdra is immune to effects that produce exhaustion, fatigue, fear and shaken conditions and gain a +6 morale bonus to all saving throws while this blade is held during battle.

Rally to the King. Anyone of elven blood, that are friendly to the wielder are affected with greater heroism while within a 60' radius when the sword is used in battle. The bonus temporary hit points granted with this effect are determined by the wielder’s character level. The wielder of Galdra does not gain the benefits of this spell.

Forge the Nation. Galdra is the sword of the elven kings, and as such elves will seek out the wielder in order to join him. The wielder is considered to have the Epic Leadership feat while this weapon is in their possession and they gain a +20 morale bonus to their Leadership score for determining the number of followers he has. The bonus to the bearer’s Leadership score gained from this weapon does not grant a cohort if the wielder did not have the Leadership feat before gaining Galdra, nor does the increase allow for a higher level of cohort if the wielder had one before obtaining Galdra. All followers gained are of elven-blood.

Unbreakable. In the hands of any but the true heir to the elven throne, this weapon has a hardness of 11 and 32 hit points. When taken up by its true heir, Galdra is neigh unbreakable. Its hardness becomes 44 and it now has 140 hit points. If the weapon is ever broken, the shards of Galdra will always remain in the vicinity of the largest piece unless magical means are used to prevent this.

Reforming: If Galdra is ever shattered, it will begin to reform itself, usually by the next sunrise from the time it was first shattered, depending upon the circumstances of Galdra becoming broken.

The true heir of this blade is able to shatter this weapon at will, but doing so causes the blade to never again function for that person and they loose all benefits the weapon provided (i.e. followers gained from the increased Leadership score). It is believed that this is what happed when the last elven king lived and the elven nation became nothing more then separate tribes. If it is intentionally shattered by the true heir, Galdra will start reforming during the sunrise one month from the time of when it was shattered by the heir. This process takes one full year to reform per character level of the true heir who shattered the blade. Once it is totally reformed Galdra will begin calling to the next true heir, not stopping till the true heir finds it and wields it for the first time.

If Galdra is shattered in combat by another weapon, it will begin reforming on the next sunrise and will be whole again within 10 days. It continues to call to the true heir during the entire time of the reforming process if they are not already in possession of Galdra.

The blade of elven kings has no tolerance for wielders whom defile the land, and if this mighty weapon is ever used by a defiler or one whom willing and knowingly serves a defiler (i.e. a templar), the blade will shatter in their hands. If this happens, Galdra will never function for the one whom shattered the blade nor will it work for the true heir again if that elf willing gave the blade to the defiler. If this weapon is shattered due to being in possession of a defiler or their servants, then it will start reforming itself on the sunrise of 10th day after the blade was shattered and be completely whole again in one month per character level of the individual who caused Galdra to shatter.


Galdra also grants the true heir the following feats while it is being wielded-

Exceptional Deflection

Infinite Deflection

Superior Initiative

#51

kalthandrix

Nov 15, 2005 20:56:46
Oh ya- Lyric. As for the whole sharpness thing, I think it was covered with the ability to ignore hardness of items- which would explain why the blade did as it did in the book. I would have pointed out that earlier, but I was brain-dead when I posted my previous comment on this matter.

As for helping on the Guide- check out the thread NPC Guide and it will explain exactly what is going on with that project.
#52

Pennarin

Nov 16, 2005 13:45:11
The whole "a defiler causes the sword to shatter" bit is more subtle than that in the novels. The guy who cause Galdra to shatter is not a wizard defiler, but rather a fighter type whose heart is as bad as that of a defiler's: he espouses the same phylosophical ideas as a defiler, without actually being one.

In that case, a templar, defiler, or any dedicated servant to the cause of a dragon king, would fit the bill. Plus it should mention the DM is the ultimate judge of weither or not a PC follows the precepts of the defilers, weither he knows it or not.
#53

nytcrawlr

Nov 16, 2005 14:06:27
The whole "a defiler causes the sword to shatter" bit is more subtle than that in the novels. The guy who cause Galdra to shatter is not a wizard defiler, but rather a fighter type whose heart is as bad as that of a defiler's: he espouses the same phylosophical ideas as a defiler, without actually being one.

Ok, so it was the old bounty hunter guy that Nibenay hired to take out Sorak that made the blade shatter. I couldn't remember if it was him or not.

In that case, a templar, defiler, or any dedicated servant to the cause of a dragon king, would fit the bill. Plus it should mention the DM is the ultimate judge of weither or not a PC follows the precepts of the defilers, weither he knows it or not.

Yeah, good point Penn. Not sure I want to go with the vague definition of "defiler" that most of the 2nd gen DS authors used though, makes it seem too open. Though it would give the DM something cool to toy with if we went that way.

I will ponder some on this.
#54

kalthandrix

Nov 16, 2005 17:57:01
I personally do not like the idea of shifting the language to make it so open ended- if we were to go that vague then it would be better to state the specific alignment(s) that would cause the blade to shatter, like any evil for example.

We could always say that the bounty hunter was an actual defiler- an apprentice or something who found the whole path of the arcane to be too much work and therefore opted to use a blade.
#55

Pennarin

Nov 16, 2005 18:52:14
We could always say that the bounty hunter was an actual defiler- an apprentice or something who found the whole path of the arcane to be too much work and therefore opted to use a blade.

Well, are you making the novel's Galdra or your own?
#56

nytcrawlr

Nov 16, 2005 20:37:23
I personally do not like the idea of shifting the language to make it so open ended- if we were to go that vague then it would be better to state the specific alignment(s) that would cause the blade to shatter, like any evil for example.

We don't have to define the vagueness of this part of the weapon, leave that to the DM, just like we did with the whole true heir thing and not actually coming out and saying Sorak was it, despite what the novels were implying.

The whole special destruction, etc. section is mostly for the DM anyways, it just defines a way to incooperate the artifact into his campaign and remove it if need be, and I think that is good way to go with the defiler specific part of Galdra.
#57

lyric

Nov 16, 2005 20:39:21
How about a compromise? something specific and DM monitored.. state anyone who weilds the sword who is a defiler, or who serves the cause of defilers (knowingly or not, and hence decided on by the DM) will cause the sword to break..

That way, someone who steals the sword, who is evil, and uses it, may not shatter it. But, that same person, who steals the sword for a defiler, or who knows the sword would be used for purposes contrary to the sword's making (whether he knows the sword's identity or not) would break the sword.

To say that any evil alignment would shatter the sword, makes it seem that elves aren't allowed to be evil, and an elf among humans who would kill without hesitation (to protect his race) may not be considered evil by a racial weapon such as galdra.. though (hu)man slaughter is often considered evil by some.. in or out of the arena..

The one who broke the sword in the book, was a defiler by association. In the service to a SK.. an elf tribe that has a defiler, and tolerates that defiler, may be evil all round.. but a theif from that tribe, I don't think should necessarily be automatically bound to shatter the sword if its ever used.. that individual theif may know of no other magic, he may not even like magic, but it would be up to the DM if he was tained by it or not, due to his history and current tolerance of defilers in his tribe..
#58

nytcrawlr

Nov 16, 2005 21:00:00
Pretty much what I had in mind.
#59

kalthandrix

Nov 16, 2005 22:24:50
Well, are you making the novel's Galdra or your own?

Well the only response to that is this- it is both. We do not know the actual abilities nor the exact background of the weapon nor the people whom have used the weapon in the book. While Nyt's and my efforts have been to stay true to the abilities we believe it had in the book, there is no actual way to know so therefore we put in things we think would make a good weapon quality for an item like this to have.

My whole comment on the bounty hunter in the book was just a hypothetical solution to the issue at hand.

That all being said- I do like the proposal put forth by Lyric- fits perfectly and I think that the language is clear enough to be used.

If my comment seem strange, well forgive me- it has been a loooooong week so far of looking at numbers and trying to figure out how badly someone can mess up an accounts payable ledger :D

Anywho- I am off to bed to recharge the cranium. Later
#60

kalthandrix

Nov 30, 2005 12:25:37
Hey all- I made a few mods on the defiler stuff that had been tossed around and some font changes- Just hit the link in my sig and you will go right to the sword correct sword entry.
#61

nytcrawlr

Dec 08, 2005 22:33:18
Any one with time want to do an image of Galdra?

Be awesome if someone could.

I'll beg if I have to!

:bounce:
#62

kalthandrix

Dec 09, 2005 7:33:32
I would ask greyorm but I know he is busy right now- and I do not want to distract him from he great work of making an illustration of Stonecutter :D - Call me a selfish SOB, care I do not!
#63

nytcrawlr

Dec 09, 2005 8:01:49
I would ask greyorm but I know he is busy right now- and I do not want to distract him from he great work of making an illustration of Stonecutter :D - Call me a selfish SOB, care I do not!

Eh, I'm in no rush. If he wants to do it, more power to him, and I will wait patiently.

:D
#64

kalthandrix

Dec 09, 2005 8:29:46
Eh, I'm in no rush. If he wants to do it, more power to him, and I will wait patiently.

:D

Well maybe if he sees these posts and has the time he will volunteer himself- but I would also like to see what others could do on the board too-

Anyone feel like a contest- best picture get to be come the picture for the swors and maybe we could get authorizarion from the Equipment peeps and see if the weapon and picture could get put into the DS Arms & Equipment Guide!
#65

Sysane

Dec 09, 2005 9:23:25
Any one with time want to do an image of Galdra?

Be awesome if someone could.

I'll beg if I have to!

:bounce:

I could try and bang out a black and white pen and ink if thats what your looking for.
#66

nytcrawlr

Dec 09, 2005 9:37:25
I could try and bang out a black and white pen and ink if thats what your looking for.

I was hoping for color, but I will take a black and white one as well, especially if it's pretty to my eyes.
#67

kalthandrix

Dec 09, 2005 9:38:35
I could try and bang out a black and white pen and ink if thats what your looking for.

Have at it my friend! I would like to see whatever you would like to kick in!

I have thought of knocking one out but I have no great skilz with drawing- we will see- I got several projects right now and a huge addiction to GuildWars to contend with. :D
#68

Sysane

Dec 09, 2005 9:47:29
Have at it my friend! I would like to see whatever you would like to kick in!

I have thought of knocking one out but I have no great skilz with drawing- we will see- I got several projects right now and a huge addiction to GuildWars to contend with. :D

I'm not promising a major masterpiece, but I might as well as use my degree in art for something. Drawing Galdra shouldn't be to hard.
#69

kalthandrix

Feb 11, 2006 20:40:59
I'm not promising a major masterpiece, but I might as well as use my degree in art for something. Drawing Galdra shouldn't be to hard.

Hey Sysane- any chances of you still knocking out a picture of this weapon- petty please with broy on top! :D