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#1 Zardnaar Jan 10, 2006 3:27:50	One interesting idea I hade was to start a thread dedicated to the complete series of books. Basically we go through the complete Adventurer,Arcane, Divine,Warrior and create a resource (maybe stickied) of what we think is allowed in Athas. We could have lists of feats, spells, prcs etc that are considered "official". Note that we don't post what the feats etc actually do just their names. Also included new templar spell lists etc. Good idea/stupid?
#2 Kamelion Jan 10, 2006 3:56:58	For my own campaigns, I put together a doc giving notes on converting the prestige classes from the DMG, XPH and Complete X series to the DS setting. I posted it to the boards a while back, but as the search functions is apparently gone forever, I have no idea what the actual thread was. If there is enough interest, I'll post it again - it's not official or anything, but there might be some ideas there that folks could use.
#3 darksoulman Jan 10, 2006 4:31:51	If there is enough interest, I'll post it again - it's not official or anything, but there might be some ideas there that folks could use. Please do, sounds very interesting indeed!
#4 nytcrawlr Jan 10, 2006 5:03:23	This sounds like a good idea actually. I've been looking for a reason to go through all of the books again. Post away Kam!
#5 zombiegleemax Jan 10, 2006 5:49:29	I've already done this, actually. I went through all the books I have and wrote down all the PrCs I figured would be allowed. I also wrote down all the feats I would allow. I haven't yet done spells and powers, though. All the core classes I re-wrote a lot of the abilities and class descriptions. The idea is to eventually finish this for all PrCs, too. A lot of stuff gets tweaked and even more is likely to just get axed because while "cool," doesn't exactly serve any real purpose. You'll notice I didn't just go and assume all the athas.org PrCs would be good. Anyway, here's my list. Includes short description and original source material, except for the allowed core classes: the only wacky ones are defiler and preserver (my own write-ups using a spell point system which i recently revised to make more streamlined), bard (athas.org version), cleric (athas.org one), gladiator (athas.org one), marshal (miniatures handbook), noble (a mix of star wars rpg and dragonlance: think the dragonlance one, but with the bonus feats of the swrpg one), scout (lightly modified from compelte adventurer), and templar (athas.org). xxxxx Core Classes Barbarian (Frenzied warriors of the wastes.) Bard (Entertainers and assassins.) Defiler (Wizards fueled with stolen life energy.) Druid (Avenging wielders of divine magic and servants of the land.) Elemental Cleric (Divine spellcasters serving the elements.) Fighter (Versatile warriors.) Gladiator (Trained arena combatants.) Marshal (Lead and complement allies in battle.) Noble (Affluent members of higher society.) Preserver (Ecologically conscious wizards fueled by life energy.) Psion (Masters of psionic powers.) Psychic Warrior (Martial masters of psionic power.) Rogue (Versatile and deadly experts of varied skills.) Scout (Mobile warriors.) Templar (Divine spellcasting servants of the sorcerer-monarchs.) Wilder (Emotional masters of psionic power.) Prestige Classes Aerial Avenger (Masters of aerial attacks. Dr319) Archmage (Masters of Arcane magic. DMG) Assassins (Masters of murder and poison. DMG) Beastmaster (Gains animal companion allies. CA) Blighter (Anti-druids stealing life energy from the land. CD) Blood Magus (Arcane mastery fueled by blood. CAr) Bonded Summoner (Cleric bonded with an elemental ally. MH) Cerebremancer (Advance both psionic and arcane power. EPH) Cerebrex (Psionic mastery over the central nervous system. Dr317) Cryokineticist (Psionic mastery over cold. FB) Doomlord (Agents of entropy. PH) Dread Commando (Swift and deadly combatants. HoB) Dread Pirate (Masters of crewed ships. CA) Earth Dreamer (Cleric especially tuned to earth. RoS) Elemental Scion (Gain affinity with elemental grafts. MoE) Extreme Explorer (Explores dangerous new frontiers. ECS) Flux Adept (Psionic mastery over body chemistry. Dr317) Hierophant (Masters of Divine magic. DMG) Hulking Hurler (Use size and strength to throw anything as a weapon. CW) Invisible Blade (Masters of fighting with daggers. CW) Justiciar (Masters at hunting and capturing people. CW) Legendary Leader (Inspiring military leaders. HoB) Loremaster (Masters of knowledge and spellcasting or manfesting. DMG) Master Thrower (Master at ranged attacks with thrown weapons. CW) Master of the Unseen Hand (Psionic master of telekinesis. CW) Menacing Brute (Intimidation through size and strength. RoD) Mind Mage (Blending magic and psionics. Dr313) Mindbender (Psionic master of mental manipulation. CAr) Mystic Theurge (Advance arcane and divine magic as one. DMG) Occult Slayer (Hunters and killers of magic users. CW) Osteomancer (Psionic mastery over the form and functions of bones. Dr317) Outcast Champion (Half-breed avengers of minorities. RoD) Pyokineticist (Psionic mastery over fire. EPH) Quori Nightmare (Psionic powers through nightmares. RoE) Shadowmind (Psionic assassin. CA) Stonelord (Warriors bonded with earth. CW) Stormlord (Divine masters of elemental storms. CD) Streetfighter (Always ready opportunistic brawlers. CA) Tactical Soldier (Fight well with others. MH) Tempest (Expert in fighting with two weapons. CA) Thrallherd (Masters of psionic domination. EPH) Ur-Priest (Thieves and wielders of divine magic and abilities. CD) Vigilant Sentinel (Spies and infiltrators. MoE) Walker in the Waste (master and center of the desert. SS) War Hulk (Mindless brutes that favor strength. MH) War Mage (Effective combat support wizards. AoM, ToHS) Warchief (Lead tribes in battle. MH) Athas.Org Prestige Classes Arena Champion (Master gladiator feeding on an audience) Arrow Knight (Draji elite archer) Black Cassock (Tyrian templar) Cerulean (Fuel magic with the power of the Cerulean Storm) Draqoman (City-state guides and contacts) Dune Trader (Merchants) Eagle Knight (Draji elite warrior) Earth Defender (Preserver that defends land or creatures) Elementalist (Elemental Cleric with extra mastery over her element) Element Singer (Elven tribal elemental cleric) Elemental Master (Elemental Cleric with total mastery over her element) Elite Sniper (Expert with ranged attacks from concealment) Grove Master (Protector of a chosen guarded land) Jaguar Knight (Draji elite warrior) Kreen Slayer (Elven hunters of kreen) Kuotagha (Raamish secret police) Leech (Defiler who leeches animal life to fuel power) Master Scout (Expert scout in a chosen terrain, Rangers) Moon Priest (Draji templar) Myrmeleon (Defiler infiltrators of the Veiled Alliance who mask their defiler taint) Necromant (Fuel magic with energy from the Gray, becoming like an undead) Oba's Servant (Gulgan templar or druid) Poisonmaster (Master at creating and using poisons) Psionic Monk (masters of unarmed combat) Reaver (Hunters and slavers who search for prey to capture) Restorationist (Preserver in tune with nature who seeks to repair the land) Royal Defiler (Defiler in service of a sorcerer-monarch) Servant of Badna (Raamish templar) Shadow (Elves of the Shadow tribe, specializing in black ops) Shadow Templar (Ex-templars of Balic once Andropinis is in the Black) Shadow Wizard (Fuel magic with the power of the black, becoming a shadow) Templar of the Scale (Giuestenese templar) Tik-tik (Kreen clutch protectors) Veiled One (Wizards of the Veiled Alliance) Wife of Nibenay (Nibenese templar) Yellow Robe (Urikite templar) Abbreviations AoM: Age of Mortals CA: Complete Adventurer CAr: Complete Arcane CD: Complete Divine CW: Complete Warrior DLCS: Dragonlance Campaign Setting DMG: Dungeon Master's Guide DR#: Dragon Magazine Number ECS: Eberron Campaign Setting EPH: Expanded Psionics Handbook FB: Frostburn HoB: Heroes of Battle MH: Miniatures Handbook MoE: Magic of Eberron PH: Planar Handbook RoD: Races of Destiny RoE: Races of Eberron RoS: Races of Stone SS: Sandstorm ToHS: Towers of High Sorcery
#6 Kamelion Jan 10, 2006 6:05:07	Cool. I'll stick them in another thread because this is like the 3rd time that I have posted it and it'll be easier to find again later if it has its own thread.
#7 jon_oracle_of_athas Jan 11, 2006 14:52:11	Judging from previous discussions, it seems people will never agree on the totality of class fits. It's very subjective, and I don't think it is appropriate that athas.org makes such an official list. Though, keep the unofficial lists coming!
#8 squidfur- Jan 12, 2006 17:26:44	Judging from previous discussions, it seems people will never agree on the totality of class fits. It's very subjective, and I don't think it is appropriate that athas.org makes such an official list. Though, keep the unofficial lists coming! I agree with this, however, I don't think it'd be too much to ask for to have an official list of PrC adjustments/varifications for those listed as OGC - ie, those from the DMG and XPH (something along the lines of what we've done with the assassin).
#9 zombiegleemax Jan 12, 2006 19:06:07	I think it would be a very good idea for Athas.org to adjust some of the the classes. I find that a lot of Dragon Magazine Classes and Feats are way too over powered. They have good concepts but are too over powered, and a lot of the classes and Feats were written in 3.0 wich can be very unbalanced when you go to 3.5 rules.