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#1radnoviusJun 23, 2006 18:58:55 | So I haven't gotten any feedback on this PrC posted in my archive, so I thought to start a separate thread for it since the other recent PrCs have gotten a good looking over. I've changed it a little from when it was first posted. New PrC for those pursuing advanced beinghood.
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#2PennarinJun 25, 2006 13:23:46 | A few things to consider as you wish: The class skills are lacking key wizard skills like Bluff, Disguise, and Profession. Ascendant Lore: The transcendent scholar has studied advanced beings. He gains +2 x his transcendent scholar level as a competency bonus to any check concerned with advanced beings using his class skills. Make that a bonus to related Knowledge checks. It is a "Lore" ability after all. Transcendent Focus: [...] Once the transcendent scholar reaches the 10th level of the Advanced being PrC, thereby satisfying this focus, he loses the benefit of the focus but gains a bonus psionic enchantment. Here you say "Advanced being PrC", while it is not the name of your class. Check the rest of the text for similar misnaming. Also, if you receive a bonus psionic enchantment, it should be mentionned you receive it when gaining your first psionic enchantment. Transcendent Focus: [...] He gains the dwarven banshee template with some modifications. His focus changes to destroying all manifesters who share his base spell-casting class. Better language here might help things along. Mention that you become an undead similar to a dwarven banshee. Mention that you use the dwarven banshee template with 'the following modifications:'. "His focus changes to destroying all manifesters who share his base spell-casting class": aroo? Transcendent Spellcrafting You may end up having the same problem as I for the Aspirant, in that the bonuses are too high. |
#3radnoviusJun 26, 2006 0:36:42 | Thanks for the input. I'm going to refer to the Transcendent Scholar as TS for brevity in typing.A few things to consider as you wish: Actually, I left these out purposefully. The TS is so focused on attaining knowledge, that everything else falls to the wayside to a certain degree. I might consider adding bluff and/or disguise. On the other hand I might base some additional class skills based on the PrC upon which the transcendent scholar is focused on becoming. Make that a bonus to related Knowledge checks. It is a "Lore" ability after all. Lore was the best I could come up with I may rename it. As it is it applies to the class skills: Decipher Script - The TS has studied extensively enough that he can start to recognize common words and symbols in writings pertaining to advanced beings. Gather Information - The TS knows what to ask and can sense the ring of truth in rumors around communities concerning the pursuit of his knowledge. Knowledges - This one is self explanatory. Psicraft/Spellcraft - The intensive study of the mechanics involved in becoming an advanced being makes designing and learning such spells simpler. Here you say "Advanced being PrC", while it is not the name of your class. Check the rest of the text for similar misnaming. Also, if you receive a bonus psionic enchantment, it should be mentionned you receive it when gaining your first psionic enchantment. I think you misunderstood me here. Basically the transcendent focus goes away once the PC has totally become the advanced being (reached level 10 of Dragon, Avangion, Elemental, etc.) At this time, the player gains an extra psionic enchantment. Better language here might help things along. Mention that you become an undead similar to a dwarven banshee. Mention that you use the dwarven banshee template with 'the following modifications:'. Good suggestion, I'll do that. You may end up having the same problem as I for the Aspirant, in that the bonuses are too high. I was thinking about that as well. What I may do is apply a bonus of half his ranks in knowledge (psionics)/psicraft. This would kind of fall into line with the metapotency conceived for the Dragon PrC. On the other hand it isn't coupled with any increase in manifester or spellcrafter levels. Ascendent Lore provides a pretty hefty bonus, but it is relatively limitted in scope. I might knock it down to a bonus of just +TS-level instead of 2 x. |
#4squidfur-Jun 26, 2006 16:21:45 | the reason that bluff and disguise are so important to a wizard, is that these skills apply to a wizards ability to keep his spellcasting on the down-low, and to keep a spellbook, in hidden format - respectively. Without these, the chances that a wizard will even survive long enough to take this PrC is greatly reduced...and if he can't survive, then what's the point? |
#5radnoviusJun 28, 2006 0:19:10 | I understand the need for bluff and disguise for wizards and am not advocating taking them away from the wizard class. On the other hand, not everyone taking this PrC will have any arcane spellcasting ability. Characters who take this PrC will have to be at least 8th level (Wiz or Clr 3, Psion 3, Cereberemancer 2) just to meet the spellcasting/manifesting prereqs, and I think they'd need an additional level just to reach the 10 Spellcraft. The goal of the PrC is to give them an ability to catch up on knowledge/information gathering types of skills to help them progress to avanced being. Thus, they could devote more of their wizard skill points to survival based skills earlier on, and use the TS PrC to catch up in the information skills. |