New Releases

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#1

cnahumck

Nov 07, 2006 11:53:02
So... with the coming of new releases that are already in the works, like Lost Cities of the Trembling Plains, and Secrets of the Deadlands, I was wondering what supplements and resources people would like to see for their games. I am not saying any of these would get made (I am not a member of athas.org) but I was wondering what people thought was needed, as far as rules, regional supplements, etc.

Not to be left out, here are mine:

City State Update: a supplement (either one for each city or one comprehensive) that updates and fleshes out the cities of the tablelands. This would include mapping out Raam, Urik and Balic in ways similar to CSoD and CSoT, as well as the Ivory Triangle stuff. For those cities that have info, a few pages about the current situation.

Kreen Empire: pretty self explanatory.

Ruins of Athas: A smaller supplement that works as a guide to the ruins of athas, and gives maps, encounters and treasure for exploring ruins.


anyway, those are a few right off the bat. And these don't include the stuff already in the works like Advanced Being rules and the like.
#2

Sysane

Nov 07, 2006 13:07:13
Legends of the Cleasning Wars. A solid fluff suppliment focused on info pretaining to Rajaat's war and the races and key individuals that it effected. Written in the light of Max Brook's book "World War Z: An Oral History of the Zombie War".
#3

redkank_dup

Nov 07, 2006 13:17:06
Love the idea of a treatment of the kreen empire. The stuff in the WC hints at so much detail - it would be killer to see that fleshed out. Also like the Ruins of Athas idea - there is always use for little adventure hooks and single-session stories. Personally, I'd also like to see something that gives more details on the islands, inhabitants and creatures of the silt sea. I have a real fondness for the Big Dusty.

I wouldn't like to see something on the Cleansing Wars, Green Age, Rajaat, Champions or anything historical. Can't stand the idea of filling in all the blanks and assigning canon to the vastness of Athas' history. Those things should be for the individual DM to decide on, not the subject of any official releases. Poo on that idea. Poo, I say!
#4

kalthandrix

Nov 07, 2006 13:39:14
I have been looking into putting together a Monsterous Races of Athas suppliment - detailing a handfull of some of the more popular monsterous races that can be played as PCs.

Then there is my NPC Guide that is in process.

And of course, both Chris and I have been doing a little stuff on Cleansing War era material, which we kicked of by making the Twilight Soldier template - but there is more to come I believe.
#5

cnahumck

Nov 07, 2006 15:16:19
I know that some of the stuff that is on the way will have some stuff on the cleansing wars, and the green age. I really want to put together something like legends of the cleansing wars, but don't currently have the time. but it is on my list and will be done eventually.

I got lots of good ideas...
#6

squidfur-

Nov 07, 2006 23:12:59
City-State of Urik
City-State of Balic
City-State of Raam
the Silt Archipelago (practically finished, just need to get ahold of Aphgan )Empire of the Kreen (this would be a freakin' ton of work, but hella cool)

I'm also diggin' the idea of a City-State update.

I also think a Races of Athas supplement would be hella nifty.

ohh, and something detailing the Athasian Illithid.....come on Penn, you know it'd be freakin' awesome!!!!

...this to name a few:D
#7

Pennarin

Nov 08, 2006 0:27:39
the Silt Archipelago (practically finished, just need to get ahold of Aphgan

A terrific supplement until you get to the small bit that explains that the Barkka, mysterious and fascinating goblin-made artifacts hinted at throughout the document, are....fantasy mechs: a giant "robot" suit, you get in, drive it, etc.

If the supplement gets published, I hope that part gets changed to vague and mysterious, like the Dark Lens is throughout the PP. I imagined Barkkas to be magma-forged smooth stones shaped like eggs, with roiling nearly black magma inside, lean and as tall as a human.
#8

Pennarin

Nov 08, 2006 0:30:33
There will be no forthcoming illithid document, or new material on it. Sorry squid, but I know you already knew that ;)

I would like, though, one day, to really start the Nok/Farcluun project, and the Black Sand project.

In the mean time I have to make the equipment project happen.
#9

zombiegleemax

Nov 08, 2006 0:43:42
Legends of the Cleasning Wars. A solid fluff suppliment focused on info pretaining to Rajaat's war and the races and key individuals that it effected. Written in the light of Max Brook's book "World War Z: An Oral History of the Zombie War".

I hate the word fluff.

I think a Legends of the Cleansing Wars would be grand. Who is the resident Green Age Expert on this forum?
#10

cnahumck

Nov 08, 2006 6:40:39
I am not sure that there is one, but I have been compiling a list of everything that could possibily be useful. It is something that has been working in the back of my brain for awhile.
#11

zombiegleemax

Nov 09, 2006 19:46:36
Well cnahumck, it looks like you and will have to pick up the Green Age torch! I have a green project in the works myself.
#12

cnahumck

Nov 09, 2006 22:00:22
well, I am helping with Lost Cities currently. If that goes well, and my stuff is well recieved, then I will more seriously pursue the Cleansing Wars stuff. Right now two full time masters programs, staying happily married, and working as close to full time as I can are eating up all my time. But I have a lot of ideas, and the people I have shared them with have given positive responses. Kal and I will probably do something eventually, but he has a lot on his plate, too. NPC guide and all; which I will also be helping out with.
#13

thebrax

Nov 10, 2006 0:04:27
I would rather see the cleansing wars developed region by region, adventure by adventure, and story by story. Pure histories should just compile the info we've had so far. From what I've seen, unified timelines just written for the sake of writing the timeline, end up creating more problems than good. Tell the history of a place while describing the place. Otherwise we just tie the hands of the adventure writers.
#14

thebrax

Nov 10, 2006 0:13:49
City-State of Urik
City-State of Balic
City-State of Raam
the Silt Archipelago (practically finished, just need to get ahold of Aphgan )Empire of the Kreen (this would be a freakin' ton of work, but hella cool)

I'm also diggin' the idea of a City-State update.

I also think a Races of Athas supplement would be hella nifty.

Agreed!

I'll add City-State of Celik

A guide to the Forest Ridge, Rohorind forest, and Small Water. Halfling adventures, sort of the FERAL halfling's answer to "thri-kreen of Athas." (The life-shapers are another book entirely!)

Ditto for Pterrans, with descriptions of Lost Scale, etc.

A regional guide to the Hinterlands, sort of along the lines of WC or Lost Cities.

A regional guide to the Scorched Plateau.

Better yet, a follow-up to the Wanderer's Guide, i.e. imperfect and often wrong but well-written guides that players can read for regions outside the tablelands, e.g. the Wanderer's guide to the Hinterlands, the Wanderer's Guide to the Trembling Plains, etc.

War and skirmish rules.

Faces of Athas along the lines of our Faces of the Forgotten North, except filled with useful generic NPCs to plug into caravans and cities.

Most important, I'd like to see adventure modules. Lots of them.
#15

zombiegleemax

Nov 10, 2006 7:11:12
Coming late into this thread but here goes:
I'd be really keen to see a new release done on Athasian clerics,
combining all the great work of Athas.org and others on new domains, elemental ascendant advanced beings (maybe that's already in the pipeline somewhere?), and hopefully describing more of that good stuff on the base elements, the para-elements, and perhaps even the quasi elements and how they all fit together.
I was banging around some ideas for what I hope would be disturbing new cleric domains, able to match Silt for it's 'revelry' in Athas' demise, and could add an edge to the standard take of the elements, much like Earth, Air, Fire and Water did.
Plus something on ex-templars (not to mention druids) would be welcome.
#16

elonarc

Nov 10, 2006 8:14:22
Most important, I'd like to see adventure modules. Lots of them.

Seconded. I'd like some adventures much more than modules which detail yet another part of Dark Sun.
#17

methvezem

Nov 10, 2006 8:20:50
I'm working on a flora project listing all official plus many unofficial types of plants dotting the wilds of Athas. Mind you, I don't know if it will be of use to many of you but at least it will be comprehensive and could be used as a reference. ;)

I also begun work on a supplement on the Sea of Silt like Sandstorm and Stormwrack, but this one is a long way down the road.

And yes, finish the equipment project :embarrass
#18

cnahumck

Nov 10, 2006 10:02:48
I have been thinking about people's responses to the idea of Cleansing War and Green Age stuff, and I think that I have an idea for a solution.

If we have a supplement called Legends of the Past, or Legends of the Cleansing Wars, or Legends of Ages Past or something, then it could be a series of adventures that allowed PC's to explore ruins around the Tablelands and find out more about the past that way. They could encounter undead from the Green Age who would fill them in on things. I think that this has been done other places. This way, we deal only with those characters points of view, and not "this is how it happened."

This could be a good way to go. So I put it out there for the community to rip apart:D
#19

brun01

Nov 10, 2006 10:08:02
I want the tohr-kreen supplement and their invasion.
#20

thebrax

Nov 10, 2006 10:45:19
I have been thinking about people's responses to the idea of Cleansing War and Green Age stuff, and I think that I have an idea for a solution.

If we have a supplement called Legends of the Past, or Legends of the Cleansing Wars, or Legends of Ages Past or something, then it could be a series of adventures that allowed PC's to explore ruins around the Tablelands and find out more about the past that way. They could encounter undead from the Green Age who would fill them in on things. I think that this has been done other places. This way, we deal only with those characters points of view, and not "this is how it happened."

This could be a good way to go. So I put it out there for the community to rip apart:D

Agreed! Kind of like an expanded, broader version of my "dead Cities" chapter in LCotTP, or like Secrets of the Dead Lands. Do one ruin after another, kind of like Villages of the Waste for ancient dead people I think we've probably overused chatty undead; probably some cities have writings on the walls or documents (like Balin's book re Moria in FotR) that give some backstory.
#21

thebrax

Nov 10, 2006 10:51:56
I want the tohr-kreen supplement and their invasion.

Oh yeah. Better let the CSoU team finish first, though, unless we think that the kreen are going to obliterate Urik. It's on the front lines, isn't it?
#22

cnahumck

Nov 10, 2006 11:24:02
Agreed! Kind of like an expanded, broader version of my "dead Cities" chapter in LCotTP, or like Secrets of the Dead Lands. Do one ruin after another, kind of like Villages of the Waste for ancient dead people I think we've probably overused chatty undead; probably some cities have writings on the walls or documents (like Balin's book re Moria in FotR) that give some backstory.

The other thing that could work would be using psionics and spells that allow you to view the past. I remember in 2ed there was a power, sensitivity to psychic impressions I think, that let you do this. Hopefully before Christmas I can put together a rough outline...
#23

thebrax

Nov 10, 2006 11:46:28
The other thing that could work would be using psionics and spells that allow you to view the past. I remember in 2ed there was a power, sensitivity to psychic impressions I think, that let you do this. Hopefully before Christmas I can put together a rough outline...

Both sensitivity to psychic impressions and object reading are in the XPH.
#24

terminus_vortexa

Nov 10, 2006 14:25:44
I want a 3.5E Version of Kinetic Control that does not require an epic manifestation to acquire.
#25

Sysane

Nov 10, 2006 14:30:57
I wrote one up and posted KC here months ago. I think its in the DS thread achieves if I'm not mistaken.
#26

thebrax

Nov 10, 2006 14:39:58
Comprehensive charts of which Athasian creatures appear in which terrain, so DMs don't have to fish through all the books to pick appropriate travel encounters.

Other types of electronic downloadable files (non-documents):

  • A set of macros or a VB application to shorten prep-time for making DS characters and/or monsters.

  • Soundtracks for different cities and areas.

  • Animated 3d walk-throughs of different Athasian cities, towns, and other locations, with appropriate music.

  • An animated gladiator fight between two muls and a Braxat, with the screams of a bloodthirsty Urikite mob in the background.
#27

thebrax

Nov 10, 2006 14:41:20
Large scale poster maps that we could print at a copy shop, scaled for figurines.
#28

thebrax

Nov 10, 2006 14:51:20
I want a Tshirt with a picture of Esme's amazing new meorty Asherak the goblin (did I send you that pic), and a caption that reads:

You have violated the sacred laws of Juhudhuzar. The fine is nine copper pieces.

#29

thebrax

Nov 10, 2006 14:56:37
That's the fine in Juhudhuzar for "unauthorized knifing of a human or any other animal."
#30

kalthandrix

Nov 10, 2006 15:20:23
I want a Tshirt with a picture of Esme's amazing new meorty Asherak the goblin (did I send you that pic), and a caption that reads:

I did not get the pic
#31

thebrax

Nov 10, 2006 15:41:58
Asherak’s the meorty in Juhudhuzar. He’s statted in FFN, and some of his history and present actions are described in Dead Cities, that document that you’re reviewing now, Robert. I just emailed Esme's amazing pic to you and Chris. Just received it myself yesterday.
#32

Pennarin

Nov 10, 2006 15:59:36
I have a few comments on the goblin cities of the north, Brax, as per two months old excerpts. You want me to send them to you privately, or to Will?
#33

thebrax

Nov 10, 2006 17:08:31
Thanks! I just sent you our updated version. The old versions won't update or reconcile. Send it to me; Will wrote the original Dead Cities but I've been editing.

Regarding what I said about needed a product with a complete monster list by terrain, see this question: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=737612 as evidence that DMs could really use that.