I think this would be interesting to look at.
Did their families fight on their siad, or was it like the Civil War were we have brother vs. brother fighting each other.
Also, does anyone think it is out of the realm of posibiliity that at least Rajaat's parents and/or close kin still live today - the pyreen are effectively immortal IIRC, so this does not defy logic that they could still be living. I do not know, mainly because I have never read any of my DS accessory books cover to cover, but is there any canon material that tells of of their fate?
I just bring this up as food for thought and to maybe spur on some thinking and discussion.
As for the other SKs that's an interesting question, and as the thought is sinking in it's becoming a cooler and cooler idea.
I see no reason why at least some wouldn't have relatives somewhere or another, and thanks to places like the Pristine Tower it's possible that there could be New Races (or heck, even established races) that are, remotely, blood-relatives of an SK. Then there's the elf-human crossbreeding ability; if you can get half-elves, and they're not sterile (no reason to think so since mul's specifically are noted as such while H-E's aren't), then you could get 3-quarter-elves, etc....so it'd even be possible that there are elves out there whose distant ancestors were half-elves that were blood relatives of an SK, who over the years managed to "breed back" their elven genes until now there's no sign of their human ancestor's past...but still a blood connection to an SK.Beyond that, if we were to really get into this I think it'd be best to start by going through the list of Champions and their birthplaces (if known), and determining if those locations are 1) still around (under the same name or another), 2) were located near a city/settlement that remains in modern-day Athas, and 3) if there's any historical reason to doubt that many-if-any individuals from their birthplaces survived. From there we could probably extrapolate out what locations are likely to have blood-relatives of the SKs.
The major problem with figuring out if any of their family members were involved in the CW is knowing the "real" history of the SK - we really don't have a whole lot, if any, historical information to go off of that'd help determine this. Andropinis probably came from an aristocratic family in a democratic society, given how he took over Balic, so I could definitely see some of his relatives having fought on either side of the war. As for the others I really can't think of any background notes for 'em that'd help with this.
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As for the SK kings there was a very interesting thread about Myron and Daskinor being brothers. I'll see if I can find the thread and link it here.
IIRC Rajaat was "born of the Rebirth" so he doesn't have parents - in fact, AFAIK, no Pyreen have parents as they were all a "special" result of the Rebirth.
Wasn't this more fan speculation than actual canonical fact?
As the the brother thing, I think I was the one who suggested that twist - I could be mistaken.
I do not think that the idea that all pyreen were born at the dawn of the Rebirth - that Rajaat was born at or around that time I do not doubt, but to say that all pyreen were born at that time, and did not have parents is an idea I have issues with.
I think that in the VP it said that Tithian was related to Wyan
Right you are, my padiwan learner.
As the the brother thing, I think I was the one who suggested that twist - I could be mistaken.
You're right. It was you
Here's the link:
http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=481751
I do not think that the idea that all pyreen were born at the dawn of the Rebirth - that Rajaat was born at or around that time I do not doubt, but to say that all pyreen were born at that time, and did not have parents is an idea I have issues with.
I think it says that in the Wanderer's Chronicle...but I'm going off of memory so I'm probably wrong. :P
I think "born of the rebirth" means that they were merely altered by the Pristine Tower like everybody else. So they would have had parents, they just would have been Rhulisti.
Duuuurrrrr...good point. *sigh*
It's been a long day.
I think it says that in the Wanderer's Chronicle...but I'm going off of memory so I'm probably wrong. :P
Rajaat wasn't born until some time into the Green Age, according to the timeline.
In my campaign, Pyreen are like villichi. Born to non-pyreen parents, and gathered by Pyreen, but only beginning to manifest their differences in adulthood. Sometimes it's not until they see their kids die of old age that they start wondering if there's something different about them. Then the older Pyreen get around to finding them, and educating them in their ways. In this story, Rajaat being 'ugly' was relevant because they could not recognize him as pyreen, and therefore didn't socialize him as pyreen.
I think that in the VP it said that Tithian was related to Wyan
I think that he lied (he said the wyan and sacha were the generals who accompanied Kalak when he conquered Tyr).
He would be the only one born like this, Kinda think of it as Ankin (Star Wars) but without a mother (Athas was the Mother). I also think Pyreen have a racial memory, just like that of Athasian Dolphians. So once he realised that the World was changing, and unlike other Pyreen who try to save the World, he sought to destroy Athas, and then without all the races (Save Halflings) would die out and the world would just go back to the Blue age (He was insane).