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#1
dragonofthedawn
Dec 31, 2006 14:57:30 Some friends and I decided to start palying Dragonlance (persuaded some since i am crazy with dragons^^)after reading some of the novels but we have no idea how to play. Thus far we only played FR and a bit of CoC. Could anyone please give a link that explain the basics or explain explain himself? The plot and storline would be helpfull as well.
#2
valharic
Jan 01, 2007 13:48:10 This link might give you some insight. Otherwise it depends on what age you play in. The War of the Lance takes place during the 4th age. The Age of Mortalsis the 5th age and is post War of Souls. I would recomend picking those up.
#3
dragonofthedawn
Jan 01, 2007 17:30:00 thanks that's a very helpfull link :D
#4
zombiegleemax
Jan 01, 2007 20:42:04 You might also want to pick up the following:
DL Campaign Setting
Holy Order of the Stars
Towers of High Sorcery
Knightly Orders of Ansalon:P
#5
dragonofthedawn
Jan 01, 2007 20:52:35 which are the "main books" for starting a campaign?
#6
valharic
Jan 01, 2007 23:01:01 The Dragonlance Campaign Settingis the original book. The other two I mentioned earlier are the main books for each age. The others are supplemental books but are well worth it.

Here is a link to all the DL books out there for D&D 3.5
#7
dragonofthedawn
Jan 02, 2007 8:15:43 Which age is the best to paly in? I read about both of them but still don't know much
#8
zombiegleemax
Jan 02, 2007 14:11:22 It's a matter of taste actaully, unlike other settings DL is rich en Eras! also it depends on wich one the DM is more familiar with.

-WotL is the classic era of play: divine magic is restored and Dragons return to the World.

-Chaos War: the end of the 4th age, this one is good for a short campaign, power players and/or quick level advancement.

-5th Age and War of Soul: this new Era allows the players to choose more freelly (spontaneous casters are allowed), and it's updated to the novels.

There are many more, like the Lost Wars (my favorite), Kinslayer War, Dwarfgate Wars. But if u are totally new to DL post-WotL/Blue lady's war is a good Choice. Feel free to ask :D
#9
dragonofthedawn
Jan 02, 2007 16:39:42 I, too, thought of starting with the WotL. Well, to start with, in the DL Campaign Setting book will it have both the classes and races as well as how to run a DL campaign? Also, will it have all Eras contained or a certain one? If it doesn't contain the classes and races which book does? Furthermore, which book is the one I need the most to run a WotL campaign? In DnD the book with the creatures is the Monster Manual. Which is the one here?
Sorry for the many questions but as I told earlier I am a total beginner in DL:D :angelhide and i already like it^^
#10
zombiegleemax
Jan 02, 2007 17:04:14 You might also want to get Tasslehoff's Map Pouch.
#11
dragonofthedawn
Jan 03, 2007 2:06:23
You might also want to get Tasslehoff's Map Pouch.

Watch this one?
#12
zombiegleemax
Jan 03, 2007 17:52:59 Tasslehoff has two sets of map pouches out, one for the War of the Lance and the other with the Age of Mortals. Beautiful maps to say the least.
#13
dragonofthedawn
Jan 04, 2007 2:06:14
I, too, thought of starting with the WotL. Well, to start with, in the DL Campaign Setting book will it have both the classes and races as well as how to run a DL campaign? Also, will it have all Eras contained or a certain one? If it doesn't contain the classes and races which book does? Furthermore, which book is the one I need the most to run a WotL campaign? In DnD the book with the creatures is the Monster Manual. Which is the one here?
Sorry for the many questions but as I told earlier I am a total beginner in DL:D :angelhide and i already like it^^

Could someone answer these question please? I'd really like to know^^
#14
zombiegleemax
Jan 04, 2007 3:11:34 To run a War of the Lance setting, You will need the Dragonlance Campaign Setting, the War of the Lance (which is sort of like an accesorry and adventure togethor), and would probably benefit most from the Dragonlance DM screen which is hard to come by but includes a small DM insert with charts, and the like. Everything you need will be in these books, yes

As a side note, some classes suffer greatly at the beginning, which you need to make the players aware of. First, there are no Divine Casters. Period. No Clerics/Druids (they can be the class, but NO SPELLS OR ABILITIES), Paladins and Sorcerers don't exist, and Rangers and similar classes have no spells. Bards DO NOT GET ANY CURE OR RESTORATION SPELLS (ever).

Otherwise The PHB, DMG, and MM 1 and 2. Many Complete books and others will not be as useful, and you need to incourage the players to act like normal, realistic people, running from some encounters, not taking things for granted, and roleplaying.
#15
zombiegleemax
Jan 04, 2007 8:20:46 Bards as they exist in the PHB do not exist until the Age of Mortals.
#16
dragonofthedawn
Jan 04, 2007 9:05:37 Do the books have campaign of their own, or should I download some? If i have to download any links would be welcome

EDIT I saw somewhere a book called "Bestiary of Krynn: Revised". Would I need that one as well? Also, the WotL book you mensioned is from these series: Dragons of Autumn: War of the Lance Chronicles, Volume I or maybe War of the Lance: Dragonlance Campaign Setting Supplement???
#17
cam_banks
Jan 04, 2007 13:34:27 If you have the resources, consider the following for a War of the Lance campaign:

Dragonlance Campaign Setting
War of the Lance: Campaign Setting Supplement
Dragons of Autumn: War of the Lance Chronicles, Vol I
Dragons of Winter: War of the Lance Chronicles, Vol 2 (not yet released)
Dragons of Spring: War of the Lance Chronicles, Vol 3 (not yet released)

Also useful, but not critical, are:
Bestiary of Krynn: Revised (PDF only at the moment, but in stores soon)
Towers of High Sorcery (revises the Wizards of High Sorcery)
Knightly Orders of Ansalon (revises the Knights of Solamnia)
Holy Orders of the Stars (revises the gods and their clerics)
Races of Ansalon (not yet released; revises a number of the races)

Cheers,
Cam
#18
dragonofthedawn
Jan 04, 2007 17:59:21 Is the Bestiary of Krynn the only book with creatures? Also, the seasonal books(autumn, winter, spring :D) are campaigns to follow or supplements?

EDIT: When will the Dragons of Winter: War of the Lance Chronicles, Vol 2 and Dragons of Spring: War of the Lance Chronicles, Vol 3 be released?
#19
valharic
Jan 04, 2007 19:35:29
Is the Bestiary of Krynn the only book with creatures? Also, the seasonal books(autumn, winter, spring :D) are campaigns to follow or supplements?

EDIT: When will the Dragons of Winter: War of the Lance Chronicles, Vol 2 and Dragons of Spring: War of the Lance Chronicles, Vol 3 be released?

Yes the Bestiary is the only creature book published for 3.5 ed. for DL

Yes Dragons of Autumn, Winter, and Spring are adventures.

No firm dates on the release of the last 2 but they will be within the year 2007.
#20
dragonofthedawn
Jan 05, 2007 4:35:47 The character sheets samples are contained in DLCS?
#21
cam_banks
Jan 06, 2007 18:36:26
The character sheets samples are contained in DLCS?

There's no character sheet in the DLCS. I'm assuming you mean a blank one? Dragonlance uses the standard character sheets, since it's still D&D. If instead you're talking about character writeups, like Tanis and Raistlin, those are all in the War of the Lance sourcebook, and as pregenerated player characters in Dragons of Autumn, Winter, and Spring.

Cheers,
Cam
#22
dragonofthedawn
Jan 07, 2007 15:25:33 One more thing, since there is no divine magic in the WotL, the only healing method is sleeping and potions?
#23
darthsylver
Jan 07, 2007 20:08:37 That is correct for the firsst few years of the war, and healing potions should be rare seeing as nobody has been able to make them for over 200 years.

After the battle at the high clerist tower, clerics should become a little more common. Say from being rare to uncommon.
#24
zombiegleemax
Jan 08, 2007 7:19:01 Additionally, even then, one above level 3 or 4 should still be very very uncommon, aside from Pc's.
#25
dragonofthedawn
Jan 08, 2007 9:02:44 then healing is an impossible thing to do during WotL?
#26
cam_banks
Jan 08, 2007 9:35:37
then healing is an impossible thing to do during WotL?

Not at all. After Goldmoon and Elistan bring word of the true gods back to the world, you're back in business. Player character clerics are going to be the most prominent of their kind, however, so don't expect every town and village to have somebody sitting in their temple waiting to cast raise dead on you.

Cheers,
Cam
#27
valharic
Jan 08, 2007 9:40:40
then healing is an impossible thing to do during WotL?

Short of Divine intervention, yes.
#28
dragonofthedawn
Jan 09, 2007 10:45:44 So spells like Cure X Wounds will exist only After Goldmoon and Elistan bring word of the true gods back to the world?
#29
cam_banks
Jan 09, 2007 10:47:56
So spells like Cure X Wounds will exist only After Goldmoon and Elistan bring word of the true gods back to the world?

Correct.

Cheers,
Cam
#30
leowar
Jan 10, 2007 11:43:35 DragonOfTheDawn you say that there is no divine magic before Goldmoon and Elistan. That isn't completly correct because there is divine magic.
In the book "Dragons of autmn twilight" Gilthanas was helped by druids and they healed him.
So that mines that there is still divine magic or am I wrong?
(page 263 of the book, Gilthanas is telling his story to the Speaker)
#31
darthsylver
Jan 10, 2007 22:42:29 Technically speaking yes, there is some divine magic before Goldmoon and but it is mostly in the hands of those followers of evil gods who are breaking the rules, like Verminaard, but it stands to reason that there might be other deities who either break or bend these rules to maintain the balance. What is meant with Goldmoon and Elistan is that this the start of a serious change in the knowledge of the olds gods for the side of good.

Now what you must remember even though there was no healing magic, mortal still learned how to accelerate the healing of a person through medicine and herbs. Now if gilthanas said the druids used magic to heal him then yes they were able to tap divine magic, and they were one of a rare few before the end of the war of the lance. If gilthanas just said that the druids helped him and healed him, he propably was referring to medical help rather than magical.
#32
zombiegleemax
Jan 10, 2007 23:07:41 Nah, the druids where herbalists, only.
#33
dragonofthedawn
Jan 11, 2007 9:31:37 Anyone knows of any safe ordering site which has the following books?
Dragonlance Campaign Setting
War of the Lance: Campaign Setting Supplement
Dragons of Autumn: War of the Lance Chronicles, Vol I
Bestiary of Krynn: Revised
Dungeon Master's Screen
#34
zombiegleemax
Jan 12, 2007 16:40:35 Bestiary Revised isnt out yet. Amazon has these books at a discount.
#35
dragonofthedawn
Jan 17, 2007 13:33:49 I can't get the DLCS from amazon It says "the item you requested cannot be shipped to the country you selected" and i have tried out all the DLCS offers
#36
valharic
Jan 17, 2007 15:27:38 Try ordering it directly from Margret Weis Productions.
#37
zombiegleemax
Jan 18, 2007 14:41:10
The character sheets samples are contained in DLCS?

It is true, there are not official DL character sheets. But Ema has made the best sheets I have ever seen.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 dragonofthedawn Dec 31, 2006 14:57:30	Some friends and I decided to start palying Dragonlance (persuaded some since i am crazy with dragons^^)after reading some of the novels but we have no idea how to play. Thus far we only played FR and a bit of CoC. Could anyone please give a link that explain the basics or explain explain himself? The plot and storline would be helpfull as well.
#2 valharic Jan 01, 2007 13:48:10	This link might give you some insight. Otherwise it depends on what age you play in. The War of the Lance takes place during the 4th age. The Age of Mortalsis the 5th age and is post War of Souls. I would recomend picking those up.
#3 dragonofthedawn Jan 01, 2007 17:30:00	thanks that's a very helpfull link :D
#4 zombiegleemax Jan 01, 2007 20:42:04	You might also want to pick up the following: DL Campaign Setting Holy Order of the Stars Towers of High Sorcery Knightly Orders of Ansalon:P
#5 dragonofthedawn Jan 01, 2007 20:52:35	which are the "main books" for starting a campaign?
#6 valharic Jan 01, 2007 23:01:01	The Dragonlance Campaign Settingis the original book. The other two I mentioned earlier are the main books for each age. The others are supplemental books but are well worth it. Here is a link to all the DL books out there for D&D 3.5
#7 dragonofthedawn Jan 02, 2007 8:15:43	Which age is the best to paly in? I read about both of them but still don't know much
#8 zombiegleemax Jan 02, 2007 14:11:22	It's a matter of taste actaully, unlike other settings DL is rich en Eras! also it depends on wich one the DM is more familiar with. -WotL is the classic era of play: divine magic is restored and Dragons return to the World. -Chaos War: the end of the 4th age, this one is good for a short campaign, power players and/or quick level advancement. -5th Age and War of Soul: this new Era allows the players to choose more freelly (spontaneous casters are allowed), and it's updated to the novels. There are many more, like the Lost Wars (my favorite), Kinslayer War, Dwarfgate Wars. But if u are totally new to DL post-WotL/Blue lady's war is a good Choice. Feel free to ask :D
#9 dragonofthedawn Jan 02, 2007 16:39:42	I, too, thought of starting with the WotL. Well, to start with, in the DL Campaign Setting book will it have both the classes and races as well as how to run a DL campaign? Also, will it have all Eras contained or a certain one? If it doesn't contain the classes and races which book does? Furthermore, which book is the one I need the most to run a WotL campaign? In DnD the book with the creatures is the Monster Manual. Which is the one here? Sorry for the many questions but as I told earlier I am a total beginner in DL:D :angelhide and i already like it^^
#10 zombiegleemax Jan 02, 2007 17:04:14	You might also want to get Tasslehoff's Map Pouch.
#11 dragonofthedawn Jan 03, 2007 2:06:23	You might also want to get Tasslehoff's Map Pouch. Watch this one?
#12 zombiegleemax Jan 03, 2007 17:52:59	Tasslehoff has two sets of map pouches out, one for the War of the Lance and the other with the Age of Mortals. Beautiful maps to say the least.
#13 dragonofthedawn Jan 04, 2007 2:06:14	I, too, thought of starting with the WotL. Well, to start with, in the DL Campaign Setting book will it have both the classes and races as well as how to run a DL campaign? Also, will it have all Eras contained or a certain one? If it doesn't contain the classes and races which book does? Furthermore, which book is the one I need the most to run a WotL campaign? In DnD the book with the creatures is the Monster Manual. Which is the one here? Sorry for the many questions but as I told earlier I am a total beginner in DL:D :angelhide and i already like it^^ Could someone answer these question please? I'd really like to know^^
#14 zombiegleemax Jan 04, 2007 3:11:34	To run a War of the Lance setting, You will need the Dragonlance Campaign Setting, the War of the Lance (which is sort of like an accesorry and adventure togethor), and would probably benefit most from the Dragonlance DM screen which is hard to come by but includes a small DM insert with charts, and the like. Everything you need will be in these books, yes As a side note, some classes suffer greatly at the beginning, which you need to make the players aware of. First, there are no Divine Casters. Period. No Clerics/Druids (they can be the class, but NO SPELLS OR ABILITIES), Paladins and Sorcerers don't exist, and Rangers and similar classes have no spells. Bards DO NOT GET ANY CURE OR RESTORATION SPELLS (ever). Otherwise The PHB, DMG, and MM 1 and 2. Many Complete books and others will not be as useful, and you need to incourage the players to act like normal, realistic people, running from some encounters, not taking things for granted, and roleplaying.
#15 zombiegleemax Jan 04, 2007 8:20:46	Bards as they exist in the PHB do not exist until the Age of Mortals.
#16 dragonofthedawn Jan 04, 2007 9:05:37	Do the books have campaign of their own, or should I download some? If i have to download any links would be welcome EDIT I saw somewhere a book called "Bestiary of Krynn: Revised". Would I need that one as well? Also, the WotL book you mensioned is from these series: Dragons of Autumn: War of the Lance Chronicles, Volume I or maybe War of the Lance: Dragonlance Campaign Setting Supplement???
#17 cam_banks Jan 04, 2007 13:34:27	If you have the resources, consider the following for a War of the Lance campaign: Dragonlance Campaign Setting War of the Lance: Campaign Setting Supplement Dragons of Autumn: War of the Lance Chronicles, Vol I Dragons of Winter: War of the Lance Chronicles, Vol 2 (not yet released) Dragons of Spring: War of the Lance Chronicles, Vol 3 (not yet released) Also useful, but not critical, are: Bestiary of Krynn: Revised (PDF only at the moment, but in stores soon) Towers of High Sorcery (revises the Wizards of High Sorcery) Knightly Orders of Ansalon (revises the Knights of Solamnia) Holy Orders of the Stars (revises the gods and their clerics) Races of Ansalon (not yet released; revises a number of the races) Cheers, Cam
#18 dragonofthedawn Jan 04, 2007 17:59:21	Is the Bestiary of Krynn the only book with creatures? Also, the seasonal books(autumn, winter, spring :D) are campaigns to follow or supplements? EDIT: When will the Dragons of Winter: War of the Lance Chronicles, Vol 2 and Dragons of Spring: War of the Lance Chronicles, Vol 3 be released?
#19 valharic Jan 04, 2007 19:35:29	Is the Bestiary of Krynn the only book with creatures? Also, the seasonal books(autumn, winter, spring :D) are campaigns to follow or supplements? EDIT: When will the Dragons of Winter: War of the Lance Chronicles, Vol 2 and Dragons of Spring: War of the Lance Chronicles, Vol 3 be released? Yes the Bestiary is the only creature book published for 3.5 ed. for DL Yes Dragons of Autumn, Winter, and Spring are adventures. No firm dates on the release of the last 2 but they will be within the year 2007.
#20 dragonofthedawn Jan 05, 2007 4:35:47	The character sheets samples are contained in DLCS?
#21 cam_banks Jan 06, 2007 18:36:26	The character sheets samples are contained in DLCS? There's no character sheet in the DLCS. I'm assuming you mean a blank one? Dragonlance uses the standard character sheets, since it's still D&D. If instead you're talking about character writeups, like Tanis and Raistlin, those are all in the War of the Lance sourcebook, and as pregenerated player characters in Dragons of Autumn, Winter, and Spring. Cheers, Cam
#22 dragonofthedawn Jan 07, 2007 15:25:33	One more thing, since there is no divine magic in the WotL, the only healing method is sleeping and potions?
#23 darthsylver Jan 07, 2007 20:08:37	That is correct for the firsst few years of the war, and healing potions should be rare seeing as nobody has been able to make them for over 200 years. After the battle at the high clerist tower, clerics should become a little more common. Say from being rare to uncommon.
#24 zombiegleemax Jan 08, 2007 7:19:01	Additionally, even then, one above level 3 or 4 should still be very very uncommon, aside from Pc's.
#25 dragonofthedawn Jan 08, 2007 9:02:44	then healing is an impossible thing to do during WotL?
#26 cam_banks Jan 08, 2007 9:35:37	then healing is an impossible thing to do during WotL? Not at all. After Goldmoon and Elistan bring word of the true gods back to the world, you're back in business. Player character clerics are going to be the most prominent of their kind, however, so don't expect every town and village to have somebody sitting in their temple waiting to cast raise dead on you. Cheers, Cam
#27 valharic Jan 08, 2007 9:40:40	then healing is an impossible thing to do during WotL? Short of Divine intervention, yes.
#28 dragonofthedawn Jan 09, 2007 10:45:44	So spells like Cure X Wounds will exist only After Goldmoon and Elistan bring word of the true gods back to the world?
#29 cam_banks Jan 09, 2007 10:47:56	So spells like Cure X Wounds will exist only After Goldmoon and Elistan bring word of the true gods back to the world? Correct. Cheers, Cam
#30 leowar Jan 10, 2007 11:43:35	DragonOfTheDawn you say that there is no divine magic before Goldmoon and Elistan. That isn't completly correct because there is divine magic. In the book "Dragons of autmn twilight" Gilthanas was helped by druids and they healed him. So that mines that there is still divine magic or am I wrong? (page 263 of the book, Gilthanas is telling his story to the Speaker)
#31 darthsylver Jan 10, 2007 22:42:29	Technically speaking yes, there is some divine magic before Goldmoon and but it is mostly in the hands of those followers of evil gods who are breaking the rules, like Verminaard, but it stands to reason that there might be other deities who either break or bend these rules to maintain the balance. What is meant with Goldmoon and Elistan is that this the start of a serious change in the knowledge of the olds gods for the side of good. Now what you must remember even though there was no healing magic, mortal still learned how to accelerate the healing of a person through medicine and herbs. Now if gilthanas said the druids used magic to heal him then yes they were able to tap divine magic, and they were one of a rare few before the end of the war of the lance. If gilthanas just said that the druids helped him and healed him, he propably was referring to medical help rather than magical.
#32 zombiegleemax Jan 10, 2007 23:07:41	Nah, the druids where herbalists, only.
#33 dragonofthedawn Jan 11, 2007 9:31:37	Anyone knows of any safe ordering site which has the following books? Dragonlance Campaign Setting War of the Lance: Campaign Setting Supplement Dragons of Autumn: War of the Lance Chronicles, Vol I Bestiary of Krynn: Revised Dungeon Master's Screen
#34 zombiegleemax Jan 12, 2007 16:40:35	Bestiary Revised isnt out yet. Amazon has these books at a discount.
#35 dragonofthedawn Jan 17, 2007 13:33:49	I can't get the DLCS from amazon It says "the item you requested cannot be shipped to the country you selected" and i have tried out all the DLCS offers
#36 valharic Jan 17, 2007 15:27:38	Try ordering it directly from Margret Weis Productions.
#37 zombiegleemax Jan 18, 2007 14:41:10	The character sheets samples are contained in DLCS? It is true, there are not official DL character sheets. But Ema has made the best sheets I have ever seen.