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#1 dragonofthedawn Mar 19, 2007 7:52:14	Finally i got ahold of the books i ordered (WotL, Dragons of Autumn). I ordered The Bestiary of Krynn as well but it didn't arrived. I ordered then from amazon so it may arrive later. About the DLCS book i got it from a bookstore soi am only waiting for The Bestiary of Krynn to start with some friends. Now, i need someone to fill me in or give a link on the basics of DL for a DM and PCs :D
#2 zombiegleemax Mar 19, 2007 8:46:30	Look at Dragonlance.com
#3 r2-ds Mar 26, 2007 13:37:37	While you're researching online.....try fitting in the "Chronicles" series of novels. You wont find anything better to bring you up to speed on the events surrounding the War of the Lance.
#4 zombiegleemax Mar 26, 2007 16:31:40	And also get the Legends books as well.
#5 dragonofthedawn Mar 27, 2007 9:57:50	And also get the Legends books as well. What are Legends books?
#6 r2-ds Mar 27, 2007 11:39:32	Legends was the series of novels that was written after Chronicles. While kind of convoluted, the gist of it is the story of how Raistlin goes back in time to become the Wizard Fistandantilus......hence becoming the Master of both past and present. Worth reading.....but not necessary for info on the War of the Lance. Incidentally my interest in Dragonlance fiction pretty much died out after these novels. The rest are hit and miss.
#7 zombiegleemax Mar 27, 2007 17:34:52	The history presented in the Legends books is not convoluted.
#8 r2-ds Mar 27, 2007 17:38:50	For the casual reader it may appear as such. Otherwise I wouldnt have said so.
#9 zombiegleemax Mar 27, 2007 17:49:10	That is a matter of opinion.
#10 r2-ds Mar 27, 2007 18:02:15	Alright..........I don't normally digress into these ******* matches, but today i'm up for it. Which by the way has absolutely nothing to do with the OP's question. Which is also why I contributed to this thread in the first place. It "is" a matter of opinion. And it is the one I gave, just as your opinion is that the history is not convoluted. However, I need not repeat that which we have already said. Opinions vary, and one should be respectful of that, especially if it doesn't harm anyone. It's part of what makes the Dungeons and Dragons game what it is. Yet when "anonymous" posters such as we hide behind our key boards, it becomes easy to make quips and remarks that we wouldn't otherwise were we in a room of our peers. Its very reminiscent of the "he said she said" scenario, or the "my big brother can beat up your big brother". I don't think I need to explain any further.
#11 zombiegleemax Mar 27, 2007 23:08:53	Thanks for your opinion.:P
#12 zombiegleemax Mar 27, 2007 23:11:45	Perhaps if you could present reasons for your statements the discussion could be fruitful rather than throwing hissy fits.
#13 r2-ds Mar 27, 2007 23:26:07	In all honesty, I thought I had. As I said before "casual" readers might not grasp the complexity of Raistlins character. Or the deep relationships between himself and Caramon, Chrysania. How it all fits together with Fistandantilus and how all of that relates back to "Chronicles". I know I sure as heck found it a difficult read. Of course that was 12 years ago. Then again.......maybe my interest level just wasn't there as it was with Chronicles...
#14 zombiegleemax Mar 27, 2007 23:29:31	I actually prefer Legends to Chronicles.
#15 r2-ds Mar 27, 2007 23:40:41	Several of my friends have said the same. I guess my interest in DL began to rise again when Dragons of the Dwarven Depths came out. Even though it was a new novel....reading it proved to be quite nostalgic. It was easy to see how both Margaret and Tracy had "developed" as writers. Better writers now, if you ask me.
#16 darthsylver Mar 28, 2007 0:04:14	While I did enjoy both trilogies, I sort of thought that Legends has less to do with Raistlin's relationships with others than it had to do with Fistandantilus's desire to become a god and in my opinion the entire legends series was imple a second try at godhood for Fisty rather than a story about the majere brothers. If I wanted to read about raistlin and caramon I would read "The Soulforge," "Brothers in Arms" and "The Majere Brothers" instead.
#17 zombiegleemax Mar 28, 2007 6:20:59	Soulforge is a way cool book. If you are a Raistlin or Caramon fan that is definetley worth reading. So is Brothers-in-Arms.
#18 zombiegleemax Mar 28, 2007 7:01:47	You know what I did not notice, none of us welcomed our new lancer friend. Welcome Dragonofthe Dawn!!!:D :P
#19 dragonofthedawn Mar 28, 2007 9:50:01	Thanks for the welcome :P Let's hope I will do just fine, and get a replacement for my DLCS
#20 darthsylver Mar 28, 2007 19:46:54	O man will I never live this down, Trey has had to remind me of my manners. Yes Dragon of the Dawn welcome to IMO the best boards of the bunch.
#21 zombiegleemax Mar 28, 2007 22:13:50	I am a very nice person Darth! :P
#22 darthsylver Mar 29, 2007 8:12:47	Yes, so it seems....
#23 zombiegleemax Mar 29, 2007 22:46:28	I dont forget to welcome people! :P
#24 darthsylver Mar 30, 2007 23:49:04	There's no I in team Trey. So there!! :P :P :P
#25 zombiegleemax Mar 31, 2007 10:57:19	Bad Darth, no pie for you.
#26 cat_god Apr 08, 2007 23:44:20	There is, however, a 'me.' It's just backwards with an 'a' in the middle. I only read the Chronicles series.
#27 zombiegleemax Apr 09, 2007 1:02:17	If I wanted to read about raistlin and caramon I would read "The Soulforge," "Brothers in Arms" and "The Majere Brothers" instead. If by "The Majere Brothers" you mean "The Brothers Majere" Than I would suggest not reading that one... Of course that is unless you enjoy gouging your own eyes out...
#28 cat_god Apr 09, 2007 20:03:32	If by "The Majere Brothers" you mean "The Brothers Majere" Than I would suggest not reading that one... Of course that is unless you enjoy gouging your own eyes out... Was it really that bad?
#29 darthsylver Apr 09, 2007 20:20:28	Depends on your point of view. I thought it was o-kay.
#30 zombiegleemax Apr 09, 2007 21:30:05	Well I really should have added "IMO" to my sentence... that is a sure fire way to start a flamewar. But yes... In my opinion that book was bad bad bad bad. Not nearly as bad as the the other preludes books IMO. See!
#31 zombiegleemax Apr 09, 2007 21:45:31	gREAT COVERS.
#32 darthsylver Apr 09, 2007 23:07:58	Originally posted by Bandit_raist Well I really should have added "IMO" to my sentence... that is a sure fire way to start a flamewar. I apologize if I made you think I was upset with your comment, I wasn't. I was just saying that although some people may or may not enjoy a certain book, one will only truly know if they like after they read it. That is all.
#33 zombiegleemax Apr 10, 2007 1:03:21	It's all good man. But seriously, those books where messed up... ~ Raist and Caramon meet a cat demi-god. ~ Tas goes to candyland after freeing a talking mammoth, ~ Kitiara and Sturm go to the moon and find "magical mushrooms", ~ Tanis enters some guys mind and travels back in time then for the last five years he ends up carving heads or something in a mountin, ~ Flint says he "loves gully dwarves" and would like to take them back to Solace w/ him, and ~ a dragon adds what I am sure would be considered an illegal substance to Riverwind's drink and he trips out... I think someone was tripping when those ones where written.
#34 zombiegleemax Apr 10, 2007 7:36:59	These books, as I understand it, were legends.
#35 zombiegleemax Apr 10, 2007 14:33:35	Ah I must have missed that.
#36 lancereaver Apr 16, 2007 8:39:23	As far as I know, Tasslehoff's and Riverwind's stories were probably true. We've always heard Flint complain about "wooly mammoth stories" and I'm pretty sure that one's true. He did say he went to place with death on black wings. The others, who knows whether or not they are true? Only the characters themselves. There was a part in Dragons of Summer Flame (or maybe it was The Second Generation) where someone said something to the effect of, "They also say Sturm and Kitiara went to Lunitari in a gnomish vessel," which, in that book, they did. Who knows? Perhaps they are true.
#37 zombiegleemax Apr 16, 2007 20:46:29	They were legends.
#38 lancereaver Apr 17, 2007 14:22:18	So you say, but when you laid the geas on me, Treymordin, you unknowingly forced me to wear the All-Knowing Fig leaf of Doom! The Fig Leaf has shared this information with me, therefore, I am right, and you are wrong.
#39 zombiegleemax Apr 17, 2007 22:39:23	But since you allegedly have removed my geas and the leaf you remain in your ignorance. TAKE THAT!!
#40 lancereaver Apr 18, 2007 8:06:45	I kept the fig leaf! We have been through a lot together. Therefore, it still imparts me with knowledge. We better be careful and get back on topic, or this one will be closed too. I have a couple of questions: Whatever happened to Porthios, Gilthanas, and Silvara? I heard Porthios got his face all disfigured, how did that happen? And I never knew what happened to Gilthanas and Silvara.
#41 darthsylver Apr 18, 2007 19:19:22	For Porthios's story read Alliances, it goes into it really well. As far as for Gilthanas and Silvara I am not sure.
#42 zombiegleemax Apr 18, 2007 20:25:11	However good Alliances maybe it does not mesh well with other previous works dealing with the deposed Speaker of the Sun. Gilthanas is in the last two of the AGE OF MORTALS campaign modules.
#43 zombiegleemax Apr 19, 2007 11:47:26	And I never knew what happened to Gilthanas and Silvara. Yeah, I'm not going to say much about it. But in Price of Courage Gilthanas is a bad-a$$.
#44 zombiegleemax Apr 19, 2007 19:59:36	That depends on how he is run.
#45 lancereaver Apr 20, 2007 9:05:05	I ended up looking it up on DragonLance Nexus. So Porthios got caught full on in dragon fire during the Chaos War? Is it just me, or does anyone else find it hard to read any of the books not containing the original characters? A couple of months ago, I tried to read Knights of the Crown, and I couldn't get through it. It's also hard for me to get through a DL book not written by Weis or Hickman. Does that happen to anybody else here?
#46 gerrin Apr 20, 2007 18:45:56	O man will I never live this down, Trey has had to remind me of my manners. Yes Dragon of the Dawn welcome to IMO the best boards of the bunch. Yep and thats why I have come back. Dragonlance fans are the greatest no matter what. These boards need some love as I have been sorely neglecting them for the last couple of years.
#47 zombiegleemax Apr 20, 2007 19:30:16	I think that it depends on what is going on. If the author changes continuity i.e. Rise of Solamnia, then yes, they are hard to read.
#48 darthsylver Apr 20, 2007 20:06:16	I don't know about that Trey. When I first read the Minotaur trilogy it took me six months to read the first book. After I started reading the second however I finished both the second and the third in about 3 weeks. The characters didn't change so much or even the plotline so I believe it simply has to do with our attitutde toward the book we are reading. If you are interested in the book, I mean actually interested, more than just reading the book because it is dragonlance book then it will be more enjoyable. For instance, I have been waiting for books about Taladas since the Time of the Dragon supplement and I blew through those in about two days, each.
#49 zombiegleemax Apr 22, 2007 9:12:17	That depends on how he is run. In the campaign journal I was reading the party was able to catch up to Gil and tried confronting him about the thing that happend in Specter of Sorrows and he ended up putting the hurtin on the party before teleporting away.. (I think he changed up Frost's spell list or something)
#50 zombiegleemax Apr 22, 2007 9:53:56	Good for him.
#51 lancereaver Apr 23, 2007 8:15:24	Minotaurs don't really interest me, Darth, except for Galdar of course. Trey! You changed your avatar! What's up with that?
#52 zombiegleemax Apr 23, 2007 20:14:59	I also like the Demon Queen of Spiders. I needed a change, I had been Black Robed Raistlin since I started this.:P