Which 2nd Ed book is the Greyhawk campaign setting as needed by a DM?
Thank you!
Note also that the Living Greyhawk Gazetteer is pretty much edition-neutral.
It would help much if the people from paizo would post the content tables of the books.
Nethertheless I appreciate their work and am looking forward to your answers. Thanks a lot!
'From The Ashes' is a fantastic great big starting point, the best since the old-school porfolio/boxed set. The 'Living Greyhawk Gazetteer' is also very good for this purpose, but I like FTA a bit more. 'The Adventure Begins' is, for my money, the best starting point for getting into Greyhawk - but it's not nearly as comprehensive as the other options.
But I'm hardly a Greyhawk scholar - while I own some of the books, my actual playing time in Greyhawk has been minimal. (Hopefully not for much longer!) I'd trust an actual regular Greyhawk player over me in this area!
What about "AD&D Greyhawk: The Adventure Begins"? It sounds pretty much like a campaign setting too.
That book details the City of Greyhawk itself, summarizes the history of the Flanaess since the time of the From the Ashes boxed set, and has miscellaneous other information, but it isn't the complete campaign setting. If you want to have enough information on the Flanaess to game there, you won't get it from The Adventure Begins.
Are there also rules for specialty priests provided in this book (From the Ashes)?
Yes, for all the most famous gods. Some of the lesser gods didn't get any detail until 3rd edition.
That really helped my out.
A summer of Greyhawk awaits me!
The Adventure Begins updates things to 591, but is not complete enough on its own. Nor is the Living Greyhawk Gazeteer, though it is close. You will quickly want City of Greyhawk, which is actually pre-FtA (From the Ashes), but then shows you were some of the characters in FtA were first mentioned.
Enjoy Greyhawk. Fantastic, amazing setting.
ROB
Got tired of Forgotten Realms, and I'm hoping to make a move over to the land of Iuz, Vecna, Mordenkainen, Tenser, and other venerable names.
From the ashes is pretty much the main source for 2nd ed AD&D. I don't remember it once saying see original boxed set or what have you. It covered everything from geography to religions. All the while it covered the changes behind the greyhawk wars.
if you want to know whats in the gnarley forest you can look in "from the ashes" if you want to know what pelor and his clergy are like you can find it in "from the ashes". You don't need the first ed. boxed set at all.
There were some other sources that came out later that fleshed out area's in more depth. I particularly liked "the marked lands" which, if memory serves, covered the vesve forest/high folk area's and detailed what occurred during the wars and afterwards.
I'm glad somebody started this thread ...
Glad I could help:P
The answers here helped me a lot.
Thanks to all who contributed.
Oh while I am thinking about it...
In from the ashes it had a little campaign book that detailed the area around the free city of greyhawk. It mentions a lot of npc's that were listed in the "city of greyhawk" boxed set. Don't be alarmed when you read that. The city of greyhawk boxed set was set in the time period right before the greyhawk wars started. If I remember the timeline right the shield lands had fallen and that was about it.
Anyways a lot of the NPCs that the from the ashes campaign book indexes from the city boxed set either disapear during the war years, leave to go fight somewhere or die. There isn't any real need to go searching for the city of greyhawk boxed set to get their prehistory. The campaign book in from the ashes tells what happened to most and updates/replaces the npc's detailed in the city boxed set.
Carl Sargent vision of Greyhawk...
The Living Greyhawk Gazeteer updates the setting again, post Greyhawk Wars.
From the ashes had that campaign book that covered the area around the free city. If you are really interested in that area then "Greyhawk- the adventure begins" by roger e. moore is well worth the money.
From the ashes was early 2nd ed and set around 584 I think and the adventure begins updated the area around the free city of greyhawk to 591. Had a pretty good map of the city and some maps of the towns.. It was still 2nd ed so you wont have problems with compatability other then time line (one set in/around 584 the other 591).
Anyways I think it is one of the best greyhawk products out there. Roger E Moore did a great job on it.
I think they have some second hand copies up at amazon.com.
Mike
Anyways I think it (TAB) is one of the best greyhawk products out there. Roger E Moore did a great job on it.
My problem with TAB is that it has nothing really new in it. It's an update of FTA and the GH City box. Roger's flaw in the approach to it was the driving need to take every loose end, plot hook and NPC in GH City and neatly wrap them up. Would've been fine if an equal amount of new loose ends, plot hooks and NPCs were added, but that was not the case.
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Essential 2E Greyhawk products.
And don't forget to get the free stuff:
A House on Summoner Court by Roger Moore (2E adventure)
WGR7 Ivid the Undying (2E, a gorgeous pdf version of the unpublished accessory by Carl Sargent)
(2 different covers available here)
Living Greyhawk Journal 0 (3E, introduction to the Circle of Eight)
Duicarthan's Greyhawk magic item conversions from Greyhawk Adventures (3E)
The Living Greyhawk Deities pdf
Much information from The Adventure Begins is available on this site
This site has some material from FtA and some hard to find articles on Greyhawk gods from polyhedron magazine.
The Greyhawk Compendium also has some great info (and a very nice layout!)
More free stuff:
http://ulmo.mux.net/greyhawk/wizards.html (2E)
Canonfire download section