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Dark Sun Planar Diagram

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#1
astrimedes
Oct 03, 2007 1:27:37 A little while ago I drew a planar diagram for my game, to cement it in my and my players' heads how the planes work in 3.5 DS. I like how it turned out, and I thought I'd share it. I used the Athas.org D&D 3.5 to Dark Sun planar equivalences heavily to determine how I drew it.

Dark Sun Cosmology

I also have some desert-y pictures from Las Vegas in there that are kind of Athasian-looking.

What are you guys' takes on how the Athasian planes generally function in your games?
#2
monastyrski
Oct 03, 2007 3:33:01 I shall not easily accept the Gray to be out of the elemental planes. And I shall not even try to depict the Black, the Gray, the Ethereal, and the Astral planes all coexistent with the Prime Material, and the Gray separating the Ethereal and the Astral, but not separating the Black from the Prime Material, in neither two nor three-dimensional diagram.
#3
Grummore
Oct 03, 2007 7:10:19 On my web site : http://siltskimmer.net/_access/dsplanes.pdf
#4
phoenix_m
Oct 03, 2007 15:30:50 Interesting, exellent work both of you.

On my web site : http://siltskimmer.net/_access/dsplanes.pdf

I'd like to argue one point on the Black, to me, it seems to have a Negitive Energy traits on top of your talked about Shadow traits.

A little while ago I drew a planar diagram for my game, to cement it in my and my players' heads how the planes work in 3.5 DS. I like how it turned out, and I thought I'd share it. I used the Athas.org D&D 3.5 to Dark Sun planar equivalences heavily to determine how I drew it.

Dark Sun Cosmology

I also have some desert-y pictures from Las Vegas in there that are kind of Athasian-looking.

What are you guys' takes on how the Athasian planes generally function in your games?

I prefer your artistic take on the Elemental Planes. (sorry Grummore)
#5
Grummore
Oct 03, 2007 23:50:18
I prefer your artistic take on the Elemental Planes. (sorry Grummore)

No offence, it's not my work, I only host it
#6
thebrax
Oct 03, 2007 23:59:42
I also have some desert-y pictures from Las Vegas in there that are kind of Athasian-looking.

Yeah, it's pretty Dark Sunnish around here. Maybe I'll host Brax Con II next year in Death Valley, about an hour from my house.
#7
astrimedes
Oct 04, 2007 1:02:21 Grummore, thanks for the link. I somehow missed that when I was looking for information about DS cosmology. If I had found that, I wouldn't have gone through the trouble of making my own diagram

Thanks for the complement, Phoenix.

Also: pictures of stark deserty stuff rule. Brax, do you have any pictures you've taken out there? Death Valley must be pretty amazing.
#8
jon_oracle_of_athas
Oct 04, 2007 13:03:16
Yeah, it's pretty Dark Sunnish around here. Maybe I'll host Brax Con II next year in Death Valley, about an hour from my house

Brax Con I rocked. It will be hard to top.
#9
cnahumck
Oct 04, 2007 13:16:13 Bruno and I have talked about Chris Con 08...
#10
jon_oracle_of_athas
Oct 05, 2007 1:30:50 Where would it be held?
#11
Sysane
Oct 05, 2007 7:04:21 Its funny that you bring up Cons. My friends and I head down to a buddy's summer place on Cape Cod every Fall for "Cape Con" weekend. Its pretty much a geekfest where we predominately play one of our long standing campaigns (Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil) for 2-3 days straight of uninterrupted role-playing.

In-between rolling dice, we watch the typical movie classics, (i.e. evil dead, conan, episodes of Chappelle's Show, etc...), play a game of Dungeon Quest, reminisce about past campaigns and drink beer. Its a blast to say the least. Its actually coming up this month. This will be our 3rd year of Cape Con. Its good to get away and be a dork for a few days ;)
#12
cnahumck
Oct 05, 2007 7:57:00
Where would it be held?

Chicago. If things go right, and Bruno can make it, we may run an adventure we are tossing back and forth.
#13
phoenix_m
Oct 10, 2007 9:51:56
...for 2-3 days straight of uninterrupted role-playing.

Must be nice to be young and invulinerable :D
I had a 14 hour game last week I thought was going to kill me.
#14
Sysane
Oct 10, 2007 10:32:44
Must be nice to be young and invulinerable :D
I had a 14 hour game last week I thought was going to kill me.

Ain't that young, but I hear where you're coming from. Large scale fights involving tons of minis can kill ya.
#15
terminus_vortexa
Oct 10, 2007 16:08:08 I had a thought.....could it be that the Athasian Inner Planes are coterminous with the Prime Material (occupying different "dimensions" of the same space), and they are ALL inside the Grey, and this is why the Athasian inner planes are cut off from the rest of the inner planes? They're the exact same planes and dimension, but the Grey is in the way?
#16
xlorepdarkhelm_dup
Oct 10, 2007 18:18:00
I had a thought.....could it be that the Athasian Inner Planes are coterminous with the Prime Material (occupying different "dimensions" of the same space), and they are ALL inside the Grey, and this is why the Athasian inner planes are cut off from the rest of the inner planes? They're the exact same planes and dimension, but the Grey is in the way?

I tend to run with the notion that the Grey has cut everything off -- the inner planes, Athas, the Black.... all are trapped "within" the Grey, and severed from what they originally were part of (one exception -- I do permit that the Plane of Mirrors, a transitive plane, is still connected to things outside the Grey -- but how many mirrors are there [left] on Athas with the capability to traverse planes through them...? I can think of one in particular, offhand).

Of course, I also rule in my campaigns that the Black used to be part of the Plane of Shadows (the part severed and left inside of the Grey), and that the Positive/Negative Energy Planes have become infused into the Elemental/Paraelemental planes (for Positive), or the Black/Grey (for Negative).

I also tend to operate with the notion that the Grey is an anomalous fusion of the Ethereal and the Astral, and that it counts for both planes for Athas.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 astrimedes Oct 03, 2007 1:27:37	A little while ago I drew a planar diagram for my game, to cement it in my and my players' heads how the planes work in 3.5 DS. I like how it turned out, and I thought I'd share it. I used the Athas.org D&D 3.5 to Dark Sun planar equivalences heavily to determine how I drew it. Dark Sun Cosmology I also have some desert-y pictures from Las Vegas in there that are kind of Athasian-looking. What are you guys' takes on how the Athasian planes generally function in your games?
#2 monastyrski Oct 03, 2007 3:33:01	I shall not easily accept the Gray to be out of the elemental planes. And I shall not even try to depict the Black, the Gray, the Ethereal, and the Astral planes all coexistent with the Prime Material, and the Gray separating the Ethereal and the Astral, but not separating the Black from the Prime Material, in neither two nor three-dimensional diagram.
#3 Grummore Oct 03, 2007 7:10:19	On my web site : http://siltskimmer.net/_access/dsplanes.pdf
#4 phoenix_m Oct 03, 2007 15:30:50	Interesting, exellent work both of you. On my web site : http://siltskimmer.net/_access/dsplanes.pdf I'd like to argue one point on the Black, to me, it seems to have a Negitive Energy traits on top of your talked about Shadow traits. A little while ago I drew a planar diagram for my game, to cement it in my and my players' heads how the planes work in 3.5 DS. I like how it turned out, and I thought I'd share it. I used the Athas.org D&D 3.5 to Dark Sun planar equivalences heavily to determine how I drew it. Dark Sun Cosmology I also have some desert-y pictures from Las Vegas in there that are kind of Athasian-looking. What are you guys' takes on how the Athasian planes generally function in your games? I prefer your artistic take on the Elemental Planes. (sorry Grummore)
#5 Grummore Oct 03, 2007 23:50:18	I prefer your artistic take on the Elemental Planes. (sorry Grummore) No offence, it's not my work, I only host it
#6 thebrax Oct 03, 2007 23:59:42	I also have some desert-y pictures from Las Vegas in there that are kind of Athasian-looking. Yeah, it's pretty Dark Sunnish around here. Maybe I'll host Brax Con II next year in Death Valley, about an hour from my house.
#7 astrimedes Oct 04, 2007 1:02:21	Grummore, thanks for the link. I somehow missed that when I was looking for information about DS cosmology. If I had found that, I wouldn't have gone through the trouble of making my own diagram Thanks for the complement, Phoenix. Also: pictures of stark deserty stuff rule. Brax, do you have any pictures you've taken out there? Death Valley must be pretty amazing.
#8 jon_oracle_of_athas Oct 04, 2007 13:03:16	Yeah, it's pretty Dark Sunnish around here. Maybe I'll host Brax Con II next year in Death Valley, about an hour from my house Brax Con I rocked. It will be hard to top.
#9 cnahumck Oct 04, 2007 13:16:13	Bruno and I have talked about Chris Con 08...
#10 jon_oracle_of_athas Oct 05, 2007 1:30:50	Where would it be held?
#11 Sysane Oct 05, 2007 7:04:21	Its funny that you bring up Cons. My friends and I head down to a buddy's summer place on Cape Cod every Fall for "Cape Con" weekend. Its pretty much a geekfest where we predominately play one of our long standing campaigns (Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil) for 2-3 days straight of uninterrupted role-playing. In-between rolling dice, we watch the typical movie classics, (i.e. evil dead, conan, episodes of Chappelle's Show, etc...), play a game of Dungeon Quest, reminisce about past campaigns and drink beer. Its a blast to say the least. Its actually coming up this month. This will be our 3rd year of Cape Con. Its good to get away and be a dork for a few days ;)
#12 cnahumck Oct 05, 2007 7:57:00	Where would it be held? Chicago. If things go right, and Bruno can make it, we may run an adventure we are tossing back and forth.
#13 phoenix_m Oct 10, 2007 9:51:56	...for 2-3 days straight of uninterrupted role-playing. Must be nice to be young and invulinerable :D I had a 14 hour game last week I thought was going to kill me.
#14 Sysane Oct 10, 2007 10:32:44	Must be nice to be young and invulinerable :D I had a 14 hour game last week I thought was going to kill me. Ain't that young, but I hear where you're coming from. Large scale fights involving tons of minis can kill ya.
#15 terminus_vortexa Oct 10, 2007 16:08:08	I had a thought.....could it be that the Athasian Inner Planes are coterminous with the Prime Material (occupying different "dimensions" of the same space), and they are ALL inside the Grey, and this is why the Athasian inner planes are cut off from the rest of the inner planes? They're the exact same planes and dimension, but the Grey is in the way?
#16 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Oct 10, 2007 18:18:00	I had a thought.....could it be that the Athasian Inner Planes are coterminous with the Prime Material (occupying different "dimensions" of the same space), and they are ALL inside the Grey, and this is why the Athasian inner planes are cut off from the rest of the inner planes? They're the exact same planes and dimension, but the Grey is in the way? I tend to run with the notion that the Grey has cut everything off -- the inner planes, Athas, the Black.... all are trapped "within" the Grey, and severed from what they originally were part of (one exception -- I do permit that the Plane of Mirrors, a transitive plane, is still connected to things outside the Grey -- but how many mirrors are there [left] on Athas with the capability to traverse planes through them...? I can think of one in particular, offhand). Of course, I also rule in my campaigns that the Black used to be part of the Plane of Shadows (the part severed and left inside of the Grey), and that the Positive/Negative Energy Planes have become infused into the Elemental/Paraelemental planes (for Positive), or the Black/Grey (for Negative). I also tend to operate with the notion that the Grey is an anomalous fusion of the Ethereal and the Astral, and that it counts for both planes for Athas.