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Problems at the Vaults

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#1
chimpman
Oct 22, 2007 10:12:17
stanles wrote:
#2
stanles
Oct 22, 2007 19:41:21
Hi Shawn,

I tried hitting the Wyrmsteeth pages again last night from home and didn't see any problem. I've also just hit them from work, and still no problem. So from my end it appears that the problem is fixed. Thanks! :D

good, thanks to know ... though you could have titled the thread differently
#3
chimpman
Oct 22, 2007 21:34:52
good, thanks to know ... though you could have titled the thread differently

Lol. ...sorry
#4
wilhelm_
Oct 23, 2007 6:23:46 Hm, I'm also having problems as well:

‹
#5
chimpman
Oct 23, 2007 9:41:51 Yup,

Hey Shawn, the problems came back for me as well.
#6
maddog
Oct 23, 2007 11:31:21 IE, right? Never a problem with Firefox and this is as good as any reason to switch.

http://www.mozilla.com

--Ray.
#7
Hugin
Oct 23, 2007 13:14:59
IE, right? Never a problem with Firefox and this is as good as any reason to switch.

http://www.mozilla.com

--Ray.

Come to think of it, I believe it was the first occasion of this garbled error that I was told about Firefox by members of this forum and switched. I can't recall ever experiencing the problem again (could be wrong though).
#8
stanles
Oct 23, 2007 17:38:50
Yup,

Hey Shawn, the problems came back for me as well.

ok so maybe the title of the thread was well chosen. At least you're my test case John which proves that the problem which was fixed is now recurring, rather than it never having been fixed at all.
#9
stanles
Oct 23, 2007 17:41:20
IE, right? Never a problem with Firefox and this is as good as any reason to switch.

http://www.mozilla.com

--Ray.

well I know that I use Firefox, but then again I also don't access the Vaults myself ... I've got them on my laptop, I don't need to :D
#10
stanles
Oct 24, 2007 5:34:19
Yup,

Hey Shawn, the problems came back for me as well.

could people who are currently experiencing problems let me know what version of IE they are running, and what their operating system is. Also are there any other particulars which can guarantee that you see the problem?

I'm just asking because my website support can't recreate the problem at this time, and I can't recreate the problem either. I have IE 6 on a Windows XP system.
#11
gazza555
Oct 24, 2007 6:12:57 I can report that the Vaults works fine with Opera 9.23. I do like the Speed dial feature which is like a collection of favourite sites. Here's a picture of my start up screen

IMAGE(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f153/Mortis57/opera.jpg)

Regards
Gary
#12
stanles
Oct 24, 2007 22:31:11
could people who are currently experiencing problems let me know what version of IE they are running, and what their operating system is. Also are there any other particulars which can guarantee that you see the problem?

I'm just asking because my website support can't recreate the problem at this time, and I can't recreate the problem either. I have IE 6 on a Windows XP system.

... ?
#13
wilhelm_
Oct 24, 2007 22:36:17 Same here, IE 6 and Windows XP
#14
chimpman
Oct 25, 2007 17:06:08
ok so maybe the title of the thread was well chosen. At least you're my test case John which proves that the problem which was fixed is now recurring, rather than it never having been fixed at all.

;) Wait till you hear this...

IE 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_qfe.070227-2300
Windows XP; SP2

...but the problem is gone again. I'll check again for the next couple of days just to make sure this is a reproducable problem. Right now it looks like something funny is going on. Not sure.
#15
stanles
Oct 25, 2007 17:58:51
;) Wait till you hear this...

IE 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_qfe.070227-2300
Windows XP; SP2

...but the problem is gone again. I'll check again for the next couple of days just to make sure this is a reproducable problem. Right now it looks like something funny is going on. Not sure.

that sounds good. Could you let me know either way, if the problem resurfaces or if it doesn't?

cheers
shawn
#16
wilhelm_
Oct 27, 2007 9:17:04
...but the problem is gone again.

Same here
#17
stanles
Oct 27, 2007 9:41:08
Same here

huzzah, maybe it was just some sort of caching issue that it appeared to stay around for some people a while longer ...

at least it seems to be gone new though
#18
gazza555
Nov 05, 2007 6:04:28 Seems as good a thread as any to mention this.

Shawn there's a slight problem with the new Vaults update the link to the new 3.5 conversion of the redcap doesn't work

Regards
Gary
#19
stanles
Nov 05, 2007 6:09:53 All fixed.

Another problem is that I forgot to put Beau's stuff up again ...
#20
wilhelm_
Feb 17, 2008 19:39:34
‹¥Z
#21
stanles
Feb 18, 2008 13:44:31
It's back again, but only for Explorer 6e. It works perfectly with Mozilla Firefox.

sigh
#22
barons_man
Feb 18, 2008 16:21:06
It's back again, but only for Explorer 6e. It works perfectly with Mozilla Firefox.

Daft question: Have you tried F5 when the problem occurs to refresh your local cache? as IE6 (and sometimes IE7) gets confused and needs a forced refresh, whereas Firefox appears more resilient in cache usage.
#23
stanles
Feb 18, 2008 16:33:09
It's back again, but only for Explorer 6e. It works perfectly with Mozilla Firefox.

As of 5 pm New York time they fixed it again by disabling gzip and they said that they added a configuration that should more permanently disable this. Let me know how it goes.
#24
culture20
Feb 18, 2008 16:51:22
As of 5 pm New York time they fixed it again by disabling gzip and they said that they added a configuration that should more permanently disable this. Let me know how it goes.

So they've got a background script that is using gzip to compress files (presumably ones that haven't been touched in X number of days)? It's nice in theory, but useless for web purposes (unless they have a specialized web-content handler for their web daemon that gunzips compressed stuff; even then, they could run out of "free" space easily if someone ran a spider on their sites [not just the vaults]).
#25
stanles
Feb 19, 2008 5:34:45

So they've got a background script that is using gzip to compress files (presumably ones that haven't been touched in X number of days)? It's nice in theory, but useless for web purposes (unless they have a specialized web-content handler for their web daemon that gunzips compressed stuff; even then, they could run out of "free" space easily if someone ran a spider on their sites [not just the vaults]).

OH OK, I was sort of wondering what might be going on. Although I think one of the specific pages that someone mentioned here that had a problem was on atlas.html ... actually yeah that's the most recent one and the time before that the Átila had a problem with - not one of the least visited pages, it's usually the second most visited page after the main page.
#26
agathokles
Feb 19, 2008 10:02:13

So they've got a background script that is using gzip to compress files (presumably ones that haven't been touched in X number of days)? It's nice in theory, but useless for web purposes (unless they have a specialized web-content handler for their web daemon that gunzips compressed stuff; even then, they could run out of "free" space easily if someone ran a spider on their sites [not just the vaults]).

Actually, it wouldn't be completely useless. It would just transform storage cost to runtime cost -- if someone ran a spider, the handler would only gunzip a file at a time or so, thus keeping the space limited to zipped files + cache of currently requested and unzipped files. Obviously, in a spider run all files would be eventually unzipped, making the process much slower. In a typical (non-spider) run, caching might well limit the cost of access while allowing a significant space reduction.

However, the real benefit is when the clients support compressed files. Mozilla does, IE does not. Apache can be configured to serve compressed files to Mozilla, and decompress files before sending them to IE:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_deflate.html

GP
#27
wilhelm_
Feb 24, 2008 5:33:54
Daft question: Have you tried F5 when the problem occurs to refresh your local cache? as IE6 (and sometimes IE7) gets confused and needs a forced refresh, whereas Firefox appears more resilient in cache usage.

Lol. yes, I tryed, and more than once. But just for fun, really, since it was working fine with Mozilla ;)

As of 5 pm New York time they fixed it again by disabling gzip and they said that they added a configuration that should more permanently disable this. Let me know how it goes.

Yes, it's perfect since that day. Sorry for the late answer :embarrass
#28
stanles
Feb 24, 2008 11:11:28
Yes, it's perfect since that day. Sorry for the late answer :embarrass

that's OK, at least it was the answer that I wanted to hear.
#29
wilhelm_
Feb 24, 2008 11:22:02
that's OK, at least it was the answer that I wanted to hear.

lol

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 chimpman Oct 22, 2007 10:12:17	stanles wrote:
#2 stanles Oct 22, 2007 19:41:21	Hi Shawn, I tried hitting the Wyrmsteeth pages again last night from home and didn't see any problem. I've also just hit them from work, and still no problem. So from my end it appears that the problem is fixed. Thanks! :D good, thanks to know ... though you could have titled the thread differently
#3 chimpman Oct 22, 2007 21:34:52	good, thanks to know ... though you could have titled the thread differently Lol. ...sorry
#4 wilhelm_ Oct 23, 2007 6:23:46	Hm, I'm also having problems as well: ‹
#5 chimpman Oct 23, 2007 9:41:51	Yup, Hey Shawn, the problems came back for me as well.
#6 maddog Oct 23, 2007 11:31:21	IE, right? Never a problem with Firefox and this is as good as any reason to switch. http://www.mozilla.com --Ray.
#7 Hugin Oct 23, 2007 13:14:59	IE, right? Never a problem with Firefox and this is as good as any reason to switch. http://www.mozilla.com --Ray. Come to think of it, I believe it was the first occasion of this garbled error that I was told about Firefox by members of this forum and switched. I can't recall ever experiencing the problem again (could be wrong though).
#8 stanles Oct 23, 2007 17:38:50	Yup, Hey Shawn, the problems came back for me as well. ok so maybe the title of the thread was well chosen. At least you're my test case John which proves that the problem which was fixed is now recurring, rather than it never having been fixed at all.
#9 stanles Oct 23, 2007 17:41:20	IE, right? Never a problem with Firefox and this is as good as any reason to switch. http://www.mozilla.com --Ray. well I know that I use Firefox, but then again I also don't access the Vaults myself ... I've got them on my laptop, I don't need to :D
#10 stanles Oct 24, 2007 5:34:19	Yup, Hey Shawn, the problems came back for me as well. could people who are currently experiencing problems let me know what version of IE they are running, and what their operating system is. Also are there any other particulars which can guarantee that you see the problem? I'm just asking because my website support can't recreate the problem at this time, and I can't recreate the problem either. I have IE 6 on a Windows XP system.
#11 gazza555 Oct 24, 2007 6:12:57	I can report that the Vaults works fine with Opera 9.23. I do like the Speed dial feature which is like a collection of favourite sites. Here's a picture of my start up screen Regards Gary
#12 stanles Oct 24, 2007 22:31:11	could people who are currently experiencing problems let me know what version of IE they are running, and what their operating system is. Also are there any other particulars which can guarantee that you see the problem? I'm just asking because my website support can't recreate the problem at this time, and I can't recreate the problem either. I have IE 6 on a Windows XP system. ... ?
#13 wilhelm_ Oct 24, 2007 22:36:17	Same here, IE 6 and Windows XP
#14 chimpman Oct 25, 2007 17:06:08	ok so maybe the title of the thread was well chosen. At least you're my test case John which proves that the problem which was fixed is now recurring, rather than it never having been fixed at all. ;) Wait till you hear this... IE 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_qfe.070227-2300 Windows XP; SP2 ...but the problem is gone again. I'll check again for the next couple of days just to make sure this is a reproducable problem. Right now it looks like something funny is going on. Not sure.
#15 stanles Oct 25, 2007 17:58:51	;) Wait till you hear this... IE 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_qfe.070227-2300 Windows XP; SP2 ...but the problem is gone again. I'll check again for the next couple of days just to make sure this is a reproducable problem. Right now it looks like something funny is going on. Not sure. that sounds good. Could you let me know either way, if the problem resurfaces or if it doesn't? cheers shawn
#16 wilhelm_ Oct 27, 2007 9:17:04	...but the problem is gone again. Same here
#17 stanles Oct 27, 2007 9:41:08	Same here huzzah, maybe it was just some sort of caching issue that it appeared to stay around for some people a while longer ... at least it seems to be gone new though
#18 gazza555 Nov 05, 2007 6:04:28	Seems as good a thread as any to mention this. Shawn there's a slight problem with the new Vaults update the link to the new 3.5 conversion of the redcap doesn't work Regards Gary
#19 stanles Nov 05, 2007 6:09:53	All fixed. Another problem is that I forgot to put Beau's stuff up again ...
#20 wilhelm_ Feb 17, 2008 19:39:34	‹¥Z
#21 stanles Feb 18, 2008 13:44:31	It's back again, but only for Explorer 6e. It works perfectly with Mozilla Firefox. sigh
#22 barons_man Feb 18, 2008 16:21:06	It's back again, but only for Explorer 6e. It works perfectly with Mozilla Firefox. Daft question: Have you tried F5 when the problem occurs to refresh your local cache? as IE6 (and sometimes IE7) gets confused and needs a forced refresh, whereas Firefox appears more resilient in cache usage.
#23 stanles Feb 18, 2008 16:33:09	It's back again, but only for Explorer 6e. It works perfectly with Mozilla Firefox. As of 5 pm New York time they fixed it again by disabling gzip and they said that they added a configuration that should more permanently disable this. Let me know how it goes.
#24 culture20 Feb 18, 2008 16:51:22	As of 5 pm New York time they fixed it again by disabling gzip and they said that they added a configuration that should more permanently disable this. Let me know how it goes. So they've got a background script that is using gzip to compress files (presumably ones that haven't been touched in X number of days)? It's nice in theory, but useless for web purposes (unless they have a specialized web-content handler for their web daemon that gunzips compressed stuff; even then, they could run out of "free" space easily if someone ran a spider on their sites [not just the vaults]).
#25 stanles Feb 19, 2008 5:34:45	So they've got a background script that is using gzip to compress files (presumably ones that haven't been touched in X number of days)? It's nice in theory, but useless for web purposes (unless they have a specialized web-content handler for their web daemon that gunzips compressed stuff; even then, they could run out of "free" space easily if someone ran a spider on their sites [not just the vaults]). OH OK, I was sort of wondering what might be going on. Although I think one of the specific pages that someone mentioned here that had a problem was on atlas.html ... actually yeah that's the most recent one and the time before that the Átila had a problem with - not one of the least visited pages, it's usually the second most visited page after the main page.
#26 agathokles Feb 19, 2008 10:02:13	So they've got a background script that is using gzip to compress files (presumably ones that haven't been touched in X number of days)? It's nice in theory, but useless for web purposes (unless they have a specialized web-content handler for their web daemon that gunzips compressed stuff; even then, they could run out of "free" space easily if someone ran a spider on their sites [not just the vaults]). Actually, it wouldn't be completely useless. It would just transform storage cost to runtime cost -- if someone ran a spider, the handler would only gunzip a file at a time or so, thus keeping the space limited to zipped files + cache of currently requested and unzipped files. Obviously, in a spider run all files would be eventually unzipped, making the process much slower. In a typical (non-spider) run, caching might well limit the cost of access while allowing a significant space reduction. However, the real benefit is when the clients support compressed files. Mozilla does, IE does not. Apache can be configured to serve compressed files to Mozilla, and decompress files before sending them to IE: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_deflate.html GP
#27 wilhelm_ Feb 24, 2008 5:33:54	Daft question: Have you tried F5 when the problem occurs to refresh your local cache? as IE6 (and sometimes IE7) gets confused and needs a forced refresh, whereas Firefox appears more resilient in cache usage. Lol. yes, I tryed, and more than once. But just for fun, really, since it was working fine with Mozilla ;) As of 5 pm New York time they fixed it again by disabling gzip and they said that they added a configuration that should more permanently disable this. Let me know how it goes. Yes, it's perfect since that day. Sorry for the late answer :embarrass
#28 stanles Feb 24, 2008 11:11:28	Yes, it's perfect since that day. Sorry for the late answer :embarrass that's OK, at least it was the answer that I wanted to hear.
#29 wilhelm_ Feb 24, 2008 11:22:02	that's OK, at least it was the answer that I wanted to hear. lol