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#1 mistress_of_mockery Apr 29, 2008 5:54:55	http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=224516&page=1&pp=30 Forgotten Realms 4e is three books, period, done, end of line: Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide, Player’s Guide to FR, and DM’s Guide to FR. All settings will be done like that, one per year, until they run out of settings. They mentioned Greyhawk, Ravenloft, Dark Sun, and Spelljammer as settings on their list! Eberron, of course, is the ‘09 setting release (same three books), but it will also get DDI updates starting in June.
#2 highpriestmikhal Apr 29, 2008 10:57:39	It's a chance, but a chance isn't a certainty. We'd need to make it loud and clear that Ravenloft would be worth their time and money. I've given up on petitions and polls and would suggest something more straightforward--like painting "BRING BACK RAVENLOFT!" in bright spray paint on their office walls. Or we could do as the lobbyists do and just bribe those in charge. Seriously, though. I'd expect some sort of online poll or survey to gauge what the gamers want to see re-released. That is, if the bigwigs decide to listen to the players this edition.
#3 mistress_of_mockery Apr 29, 2008 12:11:47	*shrugs* I'd rather the smallest bit of a chance than an absolute no.
#4 rotipher Apr 29, 2008 12:40:38	Better yet, let's wait to see if the FR and Eberron fans have hissy-fits over how 4E treats their favorite game-settings, before we call strongly for an immediate Ravenloft revival. Better no new products than out-and-out terrible new products, IMO.
#5 highpriestmikhal Apr 29, 2008 14:47:42	Better yet, let's wait to see if the FR and Eberron fans have hissy-fits over how 4E treats their favorite game-settings, before we call strongly for an immediate Ravenloft revival. Better no new products than out-and-out terrible new products, IMO. Good point. For all your Ravenloft needs, hit Paizo and the fan sites. At 62 Ravenloft products and $4 a download, Paizo is a fraction of what I paid for the crap Wizards released/licensed (including such catastrophes as the BoVD and BoED).
#6 mistress_of_mockery Apr 29, 2008 16:38:21	... And here I was thinking this was good news...
#7 highpriestmikhal Apr 29, 2008 17:26:28	Good news, bad news, that remains to be seen. I'll reserve final judgement if/when Ravenloft 4e is released. I'm also a jaded, cynical, embittered person (Dr. Illhousen would have a field day with me). Of course my predictions are going to be gloom and doom; that's just how I view life.
#8 beckettvampire Apr 29, 2008 21:07:14	Sounds to me that if (and I think it likely will) does come out, it will be at the far tail end of 4th and only exist a few months at best before 5th ed.
#9 humanbing Apr 30, 2008 18:23:58	Frankly, I'm getting to be of the opinion that even Third edition wasn't a particularly good vehicle for Ravenloft to go in. I'm getting very close to dumping d20 entirely and converting some Ravenloftish things to another game system. The ones I'm looking at are: Undying Armies Tristat dX Amazing Engine Call of Cthulhu Because I have sourcebooks for them. I'm toying with these other ones if I can borrow or download pdfs of the sourcebooks: GURPS Hero System Warhammer FRP 2nd Edition Mercenaries Spies & Private Eyes Beyond the Supernatural Mutants & Masterminds Deliria World of Darkness I'm aiming for a game system where combat is very deadly, where roleplaying is more important than rolling dice and figuring bonuses, where there are no classes, and skills and feats are very open-form. I am thinking of disassembling the spell list entirely and merely saying that you learn spells purely as you find them and they do not even have levels - just a cost you must pay each time you cast them. (This can be material components or a roll you have to make, or even taking damage or becoming fatigued, etc.) Call of Cthulhu is currently my top choice, but it has a slight drawback in that it does not have an "opposed roll" system, which I thought was a good development. I may try to put one in.
#10 kwdblade May 05, 2008 13:44:24	I think Heroes of Horror was about as far as Wizards was willing to go with reintroducing the horror genre. Once again, Wizards is really aiming for a younger fan-base with 4th edition, and Ravenloft has always been a mature setting, as has the horror genre in general, because, lets face it, you've got to have the patience and the brass to accept that you really aren't the biggest baddest thing in the land. I can see an article here and there, but I doubt it will get much bigger than that. And even if it does, all they are going to do is convert things into 4th edition. I wouldn't expect anything new.
#11 zordris May 05, 2008 14:34:52	Well Mistress of Mockery, In my tiny little humble opinion I am glad to hear what you had to post, so thank you for posting it. I am a veteran gamer now, with a total passion and obsession for Ravenloft. Even if what they produce is rubbish, I'll be buying it, and if I think its rubbish content, I simply wont use it. If I get even the glimer of a new idea or a new character, or a new peice of information on the places and legends then it was worth whatever they decide to price it at. Thanks again for letting me know! Me x
#12 tec-goblin May 13, 2008 6:46:30	There are other reasons to think that Ravenloft has a big chance of being ported to 4e: 1) the points of light concept 2) the fact that Slavisceck encouraged "mixing and matching" from the various campaign settings we like - and 2 from the old campaign settings are especially appropriate for that: Ravenloft and Planescape 3) the Ravenloft novels that have been postponed for marketing reasons (according to Marmell): http://ww2.wizards.com/Books/Wizards/?doc=main_2008ravenlofttitles and http://www.amazon.com/Mithras-Court-Novel-Ravenloft-Dominion/dp/0786950684/ref=pd_bbs_7?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210678865&sr=8-7 and another one for 2009 i cannot find right now What could this mean for us? A Campaign Guide with more ideas of how to bring the Mists to various settings, a useful porting of some darklords and monsters to 4e rules, possibly some new Ravenloft monsters and domains. A Player's guide with interesting powers and paths for our characters and a couple of adventures (chance is that one would be good, one with be more or less mindless). I don't see any potential for beautiful detailed things like the Gazetteers, but I see potential for something that would help us with the rules, for good artwork and some adventure ideas. I would buy everything ;).
#13 mistress_of_mockery May 14, 2008 6:39:24	Oh and by the way, Greyhawk, Ravenloft and Dark Sun are definately getting 4e campaigns down the line as well as Planescape and Spelljammer (which they just started working out). They assured us that we can look forward to most of the old campaign setting being remade, and mentioned the above by name. Just another poster. Could be all lies, but thats what he heard at the GAMA tradeshow (just saw that post).
#14 i_am_the_law May 20, 2008 11:20:58	From what I've read, much of the feel of the Shadowfell concept seems to be derived from Ravenloft, and it would easily be "plugged in." If that's the case, we may not see a full campaign setting - just a major adventure book.
#15 thanael May 21, 2008 3:39:55	If it's as good and true to the Ravenloft campaign setting as Expedition to Castle Ravenloft was, I think i will pass on that one.