* * * Wizards Community Thread * * * -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Thread : Harper Dress Code Started at 11-16-03 01:53 PM by Ars Loqui Visit at http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=133354 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 1] Author : Ars Loqui Date : 11-16-03 01:53 PM Thread Title : Harper Dress Code To make a long story short, I need to paint a Harper. I've got the miniature already, but despite all of my research in various FR texts, I was unable to locate any indication of a 'dress code' or colors that are commonly worn by Harpers. Can anybody help me out? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 2] Author : Hiryu Date : 11-16-03 02:54 PM The harpers are a relatively dissorganized and carefree group, and the only dress code they have (that I know of) is carrying a golden harp pin or necklace. However, this symbol is always carried underneath the clothes to prevent identification of the character as a harper. I think you should be able to paint your miniature any way you like. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 3] Author : Ars Loqui Date : 11-17-03 10:09 PM I thought it was a silver harp pin, but I could be mistaken. I think I'm going to go white robes with embellishments of purple and then a dark brown leather breastplate--when it's finished I'll post a pic. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 4] Author : Kuje31 Date : 11-17-03 10:41 PM Originally posted by Ars Loqui I thought it was a silver harp pin, but I could be mistaken. I think I'm going to go white robes with embellishments of purple and then a dark brown leather breastplate--when it's finished I'll post a pic. It is a silver harp. :). And well most Harper's really don't have a dress code...... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 5] Author : Ars Loqui Date : 11-18-03 08:36 AM Aaaaaahhhhhhhh... :-) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 6] Author : Hiryu Date : 11-18-03 01:20 PM My bad... I could swear it was golden, haevn't read Code of the Harpers in a while :D -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 7] Author : The WarOverlord Date : 11-19-03 11:43 AM No dress code, just a loose code of ethnics The Silver pin is a magic item and the initiates and lower Harpers rarely have them. Also, though they prefer Bards, any class can be a Harper and it can be hard for a Fighter to lug around a tuba ;) In fact in "Dark Alliance" for PS2 you are offered a position in the Harpers but they don't offer any "goodies" or weapons, or Armor and you gotta perform a task first (Quite potentially deadly one too) and by the end of the game the Baddies consider you "A meddling Harper" though I was unaware I even was officially initiated :rolleyes: (and how did they even know? :confused: ) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 8] Author : Meyanna Greenleaf Date : 11-19-03 01:33 PM Well Meet, Well other than a Silver harp pin. I would think do to there woodsy lifestyle. I think leather armor, maybe chainmail. Clothing of greens and browns this might give you an Idea. The most common weapons. This is my own way that I think of The Harpers someone may see them a little differently than I. "This is just a guide line" Untill swords cross -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 9] Author : Fonkin Hoddypeaks Date : 11-20-03 08:01 AM Originally posted by The WarOverlord The Silver pin is a magic item and the initiates and lower Harpers rarely have them. All Harpers have a Harper pin (so they can identify themselves to other Harpers and Harper agents) but not all Harper pins are magical. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 10] Author : gos Date : 11-20-03 07:26 PM This is all covered in great detail in "Fashions of Faerun." ;) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 11] Author : The WarOverlord Date : 11-20-03 07:56 PM Originally posted by Fonkin Hoddypeaks All Harpers have a Harper pin (so they can identify themselves to other Harpers and Harper agents) but not all Harper pins are magical. Oops, My Bad I Have the 2nd Eddiion "Hero's Lorebook" so I only know of the magical pins and their owners. Maybe all my Characters that were Harpers were "secret Harpers" cause no pins were ever issued/mentioned to them :confused: :rolleyes: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 12] Author : The WarOverlord Date : 11-20-03 10:47 PM Thread Title : Re: Harper Dress Code Originally posted by Ars Loqui To make a long story short, I need to paint a Harper. I've got the miniature already, but despite all of my research in various FR texts, I was unable to locate any indication of a 'dress code' or colors that are commonly worn by Harpers. Can anybody help me out? My conversation about Harper pins just reminded me there is images of the people in the "Hero's Lore Book" and some of them are Harpers. Their descriptions also tells of what they like to wear. This should give you a good starting point: Olive Ruskettle: (membership questionable) Has a brown "wench" style Dress with a slit up the long skirt that stops art the hip, it is long sleeved with the cuffs just above her wrist. She has a long Red velvet cloak lined with white fur. She prefers "girly" dress Martine: Buckskin trousers, white shirt, fur half cape, black leather boots, and black leather half-gloves Elminster: Classical "Mages Robes" that are dark Purple. Mari Al'maren: Robin Hood and his merry men ring any bells? Lander: Prefers robes in the desert, dresses like a Buccaneer otherwise Danilo Thann, Arilyn Moonblade: I am thinking "3 Musketeers" looking at them :D Lareal Silverhand: Noblewoman gowns most of the time but will wear "adventuring leathers" on a whim. Kelben "Blackstaff" Arunsun: Little more than a fur lined robe that looks "monkish" and he dresses for comforts not look Wynter: Buck Naked :D (or would that be horse naked? :smirk: ) Shandril Shessair: Short shifts and tunics (Think how a girl turns her boyfriend's shirt that comes down to her mid thighs into a minidress by hearing a belt at the waist) Myrmeen Lhal: Chain mail armor wean adventuring (unless in disguise), Ceremonial armor and silver headdress shaped like Phoenix -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 13] Author : Kuje31 Date : 11-20-03 11:12 PM Thread Title : Re: Re: Harper Dress Code Originally posted by The WarOverlord My conversation about Harper pins just reminded me there is images of the people in the "Hero's Lore Book" and some of them are Harpers. Their descriptions also tells of what they like to wear. This should give you a good starting point: Olive Ruskettle: (membership questionable) Has a brown "wench" style Dress with a slit up the long skirt that stops art the hip, it is long sleeved with the cuffs just above her wrist. She has a long Red velvet cloak lined with white fur. She prefers "girly" dress Martine: Buckskin trousers, white shirt, fur half cape, black leather boots, and black leather half-gloves Elminster: Classical "Mages Robes" that are dark Purple. Mari Al'maren: Robin Hood and his merry men ring any bells? Lander: Prefers robes in the desert, dresses like a Buccaneer otherwise Danilo Thann, Arilyn Moonblade: I am thinking "3 Musketeers" looking at them :D Lareal Silverhand: Noblewoman gowns most of the time but will wear "adventuring leathers" on a whim. Kelben "Blackstaff" Arunsun: Little more than a fur lined robe that looks "monkish" and he dresses for comforts not look Wynter: Buck Naked :D (or would that be horse naked? :smirk: ) Shandril Shessair: Short shifts and tunics (Think how a girl turns her boyfriend's shirt that comes down to her mid thighs into a minidress by hearing a belt at the waist) Myrmeen Lhal: Chain mail armor wean adventuring (unless in disguise), Ceremonial armor and silver headdress shaped like Phoenix Grin, half of these arn't harpers any more. :) Or many of them are part of Khelben's Moonstars, or dead or part of neither organization. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 14] Author : The WarOverlord Date : 11-21-03 04:01 AM Thread Title : Re: Re: Re: Harper Dress Code Originally posted by Kuje31 Grin, half of these arn't harpers any more. :) Or many of them are part of Khelben's Moonstars, or dead or part of neither organization. Well it is a very old book and the organization is overrated anyway :angel: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 15] Author : Kuje31 Date : 11-21-03 01:32 PM Thread Title : Re: Re: Re: Re: Harper Dress Code Originally posted by The WarOverlord Well it is a very old book and the organization is overrated anyway :angel: Aye, I know it's a old book. I was just being a smart :censored: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 16] Author : wanderingminstrelnasheen Date : 11-24-03 08:05 PM Green and Gold are the "Harper Colors", although they often do not prominently display them for secrecy. However, if this is a portrait, you might consider it. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 17] Author : The White Sorcerer Date : 11-25-03 07:54 AM Thread Title : Re: Re: Harper Dress Code Originally posted by The WarOverlord Elminster: Classical "Mages Robes" that are dark Purple. Elminster wears red robes, not purple. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 18] Author : aravilar_holistacia Date : 12-02-03 12:13 PM Thread Title : Re: Re: Re: Re: Harper Dress Code Originally posted by The WarOverlord Well it is a very old book and the organization is overrated anyway :angel: Oh, thanks a bunch, TWO. I'd say that the Harpers can wear whatever they desire. As the FRCS says, "A harper can be the peasant in rags and beat-up leather armor, or the fighter in gleaming mithral full plate." Either way, they would probably have their harper pin on their person somewhere. From the MoF, you will see that there are two types of Harper pin, BOTH of which are magical items. The lesser one functions as a ring of mind shielding. The greater Harper pin grants the following effects: immunity to magic missile, nondetection, resist elements (electricity), undetectable alignment, and +5 resistance bonus on saves versus mind-affecting effects. Again, the pin is the only Harper dress code there is. I suppose even that may not be a standard, considering that we Harpers are not exactly the most open group there is. Aravilar Holistacia, Harper Foundation Founder -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Downloaded from Wizards Community (http://forums.gleemax.com) at 05-10-08 08:19 AM.