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Thread : Spellslayer (from Sha'ir's Handbook)
Started at 06-02-04 09:05 AM by Dungeonmastercal
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[Post 1]
Author : Dungeonmastercal
Date : 06-02-04 09:05 AM
Thread Title : Spellslayer (from Sha'ir's Handbook)

I'm trying to convert this to a PrC, but am having trouble balancing it.  Has anyone else tried this, or have some suggestions? 

Thanks!!!!!!

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[Post 2]
Author : vader42xx
Date : 06-02-04 09:28 AM

I don't know if this will help as I don't have the Sha'ir's Handbook (not for many years now) but Dragon magazine #315 has a write up of the Sha'ir for 3.5.

If you don't already have that then it might give you some ideas as to what you might want to do. If you do have that then I'm the wrong person to ask, sorry. :)

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[Post 3]
Author : Dungeonmastercal
Date : 06-02-04 09:32 AM

Vader, thanks for getting back to me, but maybe I wasn't really clear in my post.  It's not the Sha'ir I want (I have that issue) but the Spellslayer kit from the book.  I'm trying to make it into a Prestige Class, and after 5 attempts, have become a bit frustrated!

Thanks, though!

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[Post 4]
Author : vader42xx
Date : 06-02-04 11:30 AM

Nope, you were clear...I was just making sure you at least had the base to work from. :)

So, since you do, I can't help you any further other than to look at what you've got and try to help out. But I don't even know what the original looks like so I don't know that I'd even be the best person to ask there. ;)

And you're welcome by the way. :)

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[Post 5]
Author : Sildatorak
Date : 06-08-04 04:56 AM
Thread Title : warning--3e-speak ahead

This is going to be a little bit rambly since I am tired and it is dang near 4 am here.

The spellslayer definitely has light armor proficiency and would probably get the spells listed as spell-like abilities at the appropriate levels. I think you might want to make DC's charisma based since they aren't memorizing and casting spells.

I'd give them the wizard skill list and throw in a couple of rogue skills also (disguise, climb, move silently, hide, I can't remember off the top of my head if they actually had these or just used spell like abilities to mimic them).

Spellslaying is the toughest of their abilities to deal with…might want to model it after the Assassin PrC's death touch.

Given the flavor of the class you probably should have a prerequisite of not actually have any arcane spellcasting ability (in addition to the having seen magical destruction and being approached by the Spellslayer organisation). You also might want to have some ranks of knowledge (arcana) as a prereq, keeping in mind that it will be cross-classed for pretty much anyone who doesn't cast arcane spells. If you are doing this for 3.5 you might have the "stealthy" feat as a pre-req, too, or the one that is +2 to disguise and bluff checks. Chaotic alignment requirement is a no-brainer.

Anyway, I'm going to sleep and maybe post more on this later after I've re-read that part of my Sha'ir's Handbook.

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[Post 6]
Author : Dungeonmastercal
Date : 06-08-04 08:31 AM

Sildatorak,

Thanks for the reply.  Your suggestions are pretty much on track with a lot of what I've worked on so far.  There are some balance issues that I'm still to resolve, though.  

Thanks!!!

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