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Thread : Shadow and Water Elves
Started at 08-19-04 03:38 PM by Lost Woodrake
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[Post 1]
Author : Lost Woodrake
Date : 08-19-04 03:38 PM
Thread Title : Shadow and Water Elves

GAZ9 states several times that the Minrothad Water Elves resemble Shadow Elves - and hints about an optional connection between the two. Yet I haven't found any deveolpment of this possibility. 

It could be a good disguise for Shadow-Elves in the Known World - since Water Elves are the most common Minrothad merchants around. But is there any real historical linkage between Shadow Elves and the Meditor?

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[Post 2]
Author : Cthulhudrew
Date : 08-19-04 04:18 PM
Thread Title : Re: Shadow and Water Elves

Originally posted by Lost Woodrake 
GAZ9 states several times that the Minrothad Water Elves resemble Shadow Elves - and hints about an optional connection between the two. Yet I haven't found any deveolpment of this possibility. 

It could be a good disguise for Shadow-Elves in the Known World - since Water Elves are the most common Minrothad merchants around. But is there any real historical linkage between Shadow Elves and the Meditor?  

Well, the clans that became the Shadow Elves and the Meditor clan all originated in Grunland/Evergrun. The SE Clans (Gelbalf, Porador, Felistyr, and err... the other one) migrated north prior to the Great Rain of Fire, while the Meditor didn't migrate north until after the GRoF. 

Presumably the "resemblance" issue is mostly in reference to the fact that the SE are pale skinned and light-haired (from their centuries of below-ground living) and the Water Elves are pale-skinned and light-haired (from living in the sun? Doesn't really explain the pale skin, but...)

My assumption is that the SE are the way they are from living underground, but possibly both clans were always light-skinned and  fair-haired, and living underground merely made this more prominent for the SE clans?

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[Post 3]
Author : Lost Woodrake
Date : 08-22-04 05:53 AM

Yeah, I guess that is the most coherent solution to the matter - although it still doesn't explain the Meditor pale skin, nor the fact that other clans from Evergrun don't share the resemblence.

Nevermind. At least it opens up that option of having a Shadow Elf spy passing off as a Meditor merchant. Better yet - a Meditor merchant who is suspected by the PCs to be a SE, and gets them into trouble with the notorious Minrothaddan legal system! :smirk:

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[Post 4]
Author : Cthulhudrew
Date : 08-22-04 08:52 PM

Something else I just thought of- the Sheyallia elves (from Graakhalia) aren't described as being pale skinned like the SE are, though they've been underground nearly as long, IIRC. So perhaps it isn't lack of sunlight (at least not entirely) that causes the lack/lesser degree of pigmentation, but a trait of their "branch" of elvenkind? IE, both the Water Elves and the SE clans come from a branch of elves that are naturally light skinned. This might then explain why the WE (who work in sunlight quite a bit) remain pale, and why the SE are as well (perhaps slightly moreso due to the lack of sunlight?). At the same time, this could explain why the Sheyallia, who also live underground, seem not to be as pale as the SE.

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[Post 5]
Author : Lost Woodrake
Date : 08-23-04 02:28 PM

Good. I like that. It does make sense.
Thanks!

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