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Hugin

12-01-04, 12:42 AM		Something I did a long time ago for my Mystara campaigns was to do up a number of different breeds of horses with five quality levels (in the manner of the horses presented in the Golden Khan of Ethengar gazetteer). Having a variety of horses was interesting to me and my players, after all, you don't have only just two weapons to chose from do you? I'm currently upgrading them to 3.5 and will post them as I do them (hopefully!).

I started by having a kind of template or basis to build different horses with different characteristics. This is the list of horses that have been in my games for quite some time now:

Heavy Horses
Kaltstein - a strong horse bread mainly in Darokin for plowing fields. Chestnut, bay (redish), or roan (gold, brown or black w/ white hair).
Percherval - a large, noble looking work horse found in Glantri known for its ease of handling (which I translate as a higher WIS). Grey, or black.
Rahedan - perhaps the strongest horse on Mystara, it is found mainly in Wendar and also in Heldann, where it is often trained as a heavy war horse. Black, grey, or brown & w/ long white hair on the lower leg covering its feet.
Randellyn Bay - both strong and easily handled, it's found in Alphatia. Bay w/ darker hair on back and black hair on back of its neck.
Stregger - a large horse that the Hattians have found are suited well to training as war horses. Black, brown, bay chestnut, grey.
Tilsdale - a rare breed found mostly in Klantyr, Glantri, that is very good for plowing and pulling. Black, grey, roan (gold, brown or black w/ white hair), bay, or brown.

Medium Horse
Cayuse - one of the horses used by the Atruaghin peoples, it has good balance but is also strong and well behaved. Its origins are unknown. Almost any colour, however no white markings except for below the knees or on the face.
Elstrick - the horse in Darokin for pulling carts and carrigages. It has good eyesight as well as endurance and toughness. Usually reddish but can be brown or black.
Guadalante - Common on the Savage Coast, it is prized for its mobility and trainability. grey, or bay & black.
Kerendan - the horse of the Kerendans and of much of Thyatis. It is tough and agile. Born dark coloured, gradually changing pure white by age 4-10, usually at 7 years. 1 in 200 remain brown or black.
Ythronner - a horse bread in Karameikos about a century ago using the Kerendan, but its is not quite as good, or as common. It is often used as a multi-purpose horse. Dark brown w black legs and mane to bay.

Light Horse
Akhal-Teke - this is the horse of the Ethengarian hordes and is well rounded in ability. It is very rare outside Ethengar. Distintive metallic golden sheen overlaying a fine haired coat coloured dun (yellowish or bluish), bay, gray, or black.
Alasiyan - the high-strung horse prized greatly by the Ylari for its speed, jumping ability, and endurance in the desert. Chestnut (gold), bay (reddish), grey, or black.
Antalian Cob - found in the northern climates of Norwold, Heldann, the Reaches, and northern Isle of Dawn, it is sturdy, strong, hardy, and surprisingly agile. almost any colour except a painted pattern.
Arapaloosa - reknown for its strength, balance, and climbing ability among the Savage Coast region. Leopard (white w/dark blotches over hind), snowflake (spots all over, more on hind), blanket (blotches over upper hind), marble, frost.
--------- - first horse to be used by the Atruaghin people, and common in Sind and the Savage Coast, it has many names; the Atruaghin's simply called it "painted". It is a good climbing horse that is (as the Atruaghins say) "always aware of what is happening around it, even before you are". Overo (solid colour w/ large uneven patches of white all over body), or tobiano (white coat w/ large uneven patches of solid colour).

Ponies
Cabalsaw - used as a pack animal on the Savage Coast. Almost any colour.
Cruth - great pack animal for rugged terrain and used as mounts by hin that want to go off the trail. Found in Darokin, through the Shires, and into Karameikos. Brown, grey, chestnut, almost any.
Ostlandic - the pony believed to have been native only to the Islands of the Ostlanders. Perhaps the pony with the greatest endurance. Almost any colour or colour combination.
Thothian - almost exclusive to the the Isle of Dawn, with the exception of very wealty citizens of Thyatis or Alphatia that puschase these diminuative ponies for their young children. In behavior and loyalty, it is claimed to be like that of gentlest dog. Black, brown, chestnut, gray, or patchy.

As I update the stats to 3.5 I'll also give more detail, such as height, skills, and price. I'll also show what happens when a horse gets trained for use in combat (kind of like a prestige class, but for horses! :D ).

As always, comments and ideas are more than welcome.
Spellweaver

12-01-04, 09:20 AM		Extremely cool ideas! :clap:

I have a few questions:

What makes the Tilsdale so rare in Glantri? Does that make it more valuable or just rare?

Does Vestland, Soderfjord and Ostland import the Rahedan from Heldann and the Kaltstein from Darokin for warfare and agriculture? Or what do they uses for such purposes? Not the Antalian cob or the Ostlandic? (I know next to nothing about horses, so I am not sure how much "lighter" a light horse is than a medium horse :D )


As I update the stats to 3.5 I'll also give more detail, such as height, skills, and price. I'll also show what happens when a horse gets trained for use in combat (kind of like a prestige class, but for horses! :D ).

As always, comments and ideas are more than welcome.

Wow! Can't wait to read that! A great touch of colour to my campaign!

:-) Jesper
lonewolf

12-01-04, 10:21 AM		very nice
although im missing the famous horses of the Alfheim elves
Kheldren

12-01-04, 10:52 AM		I obviously haven't read my Ethengar Gazetteer often enough... How do these compare with the horse qualities in Gaz2 Ylaruam?
Lost Woodrake

12-01-04, 02:16 PM		Nice... I'm beginning to imagine the different variants of unicorns, centaurs, pegasi and pegataurs that can be bred from these horses...
Hugin

12-01-04, 10:51 PM		What makes the Tilsdale so rare in Glantri? Does that make it more valuable or just rare?
It's just not a common horse in general. I would guess that if magic wasn't as predominate as it is in glantri, or the horse was originally bred elsewhere, it could easily have been more widespread. It is also very likely that it is a fairly recent breed of horse that will probably spread, but slowly.

Does Vestland, Soderfjord and Ostland import the Rahedan from Heldann and the Kaltstein from Darokin for warfare and agriculture? Or what do they uses for such purposes? Not the Antalian cob or the Ostlandic? (I know next to nothing about horses, so I am not sure how much "lighter" a light horse is than a medium horse
The nations of the Northern Reaches indeed use the Rahedan (for war and peace) as the Heldannic Knights seem to import and bred a lot of Streggers for warhorses, creating a surplus of the Rahedans. This makes getting the Rahedan that much more easier for the Reaches now. As for the light / medium horse difference, it isn't much. For game purposes, generally the "heavier" a horse is, the stronger and larger, but slower and less agile it is.

A great touch of colour to my campaign!
That's why I did it :D . Another thing I usually have done up is a couple of stables listing what specific horses they have for sale. The type, colour, and quailty (which the PCs use a handle animal check to see if they can determine), along with the price. In most cases, the farther a horse is from its "normal range", the more expensive the price.

although im missing the famous horses of the Alfheim elves
Forgot completely about those! I'll have to look into that.

I obviously haven't read my Ethengar Gazetteer often enough... How do these compare with the horse qualities in Gaz2 Ylaruam?
The ones in the Ethengar gaz are more complete stat-wise; the Ylaruam ones only show speed (faster than the Ethengar horse) and the chances of a defect.

Nice... I'm beginning to imagine the different variants of unicorns, centaurs, pegasi and pegataurs that can be bred from these horses...
Hey, nice idea, didn't think about that!
Hugin

12-05-04, 06:40 PM		Having difficulty putting the chart of one of the horses on the boards. I'm trying to put it the HTML wrap from my Word doc, but ahhhh... :banghead:
Hugin

12-06-04, 07:32 PM		STREGGER Heavy Horse

The Stregger is a large horse that the Hattians have found to be suited well to training
as war horses; it is willing and very adaptable, has good nerves and intelligence.
Streggers are heavily built, with good shoulders and a compact, rounded body,
large barrel and a heavy croup. The legs are short and heavily boned and yet has large
canter strides and enormous jumping ability. They are from 64" - 68" at the shoulders
and are black, brown, bay chestnut, or grey.

Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 10 14 17 18 19
Dex 5 9 12 14 15
Con 7 12 17 18 19
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 8 11 14 16 17
Cha 3 4 6 8 9

Speed 20’ 40’ 50’ 50’ 60’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 2 3 3 4 4
AC 8 11 13 15 15
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 2d8+1(11) 3d8+9(22) 4d8+16(34) 5d8+20(42)
Attacks -6 melee -3 melee -1 melee +1 melee +1 melee
Damage 1d6 1d6+1 1d6+1 1d6+2 1d6+2
Saves +0/-1/-1 +4/+2/+0 +6/+4/+3 +8/+6/+4 +8/+6/+4
Breed Bonus Feat: Willingness*
Feat 1 Endurance
Feat 2 Run

Skill Ranks
Balance 1 2 2 3 3
Climb
Jump
Listen 2 2 2 2 3
Spot 1 1 2 2 2

Light 90 170 260 300 350
Medium 180 340 520 600 700
Heavy 270 510 780 900 1050
Pull 450 850 1300 1500 1750

Price 20gp 70gp 200gp 600gp 1800gp

*Willingness: This feat grants the rider of a mount a +3 bonus to ride checks attempting to
Leap, Spur Mount, or Control Mount in Combat.
http://www.magpiefarm.com/gigconf.jpg
Hugin

12-06-04, 07:39 PM		:w00t: :dancin: :w00t: :dancin:

It's Alive! ALIVE! The Stregger, that is. Sorry, I'm a little exstatic about getting it to show up in the columns. Please let me know if any of you are having trouble veiwing it properly and/or suggestions to fix it as well. Oh, and questions/commits welcome (as always :D ).
Hugin

12-06-04, 09:30 PM		KERENDAN Medium Horse

The horse of the Kerendans and of much of Thyatis. It is tough and agile, known for
its long-distance running and excellent jumping ability. The Kerendan has a long,
powerful back, a low, but well-defined wither, and a powerful neck. The chest is
wide and deep, and a good deep girth giving good heart and lung room. The main and
tail are usually sparse and fine. Born dark coloured, gradually changing pure white by
age 4-10, usually at 7 years. 1 in 200 remains brown or black. Kerendans usually
stand at between 61" - 64".

Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 9 13 16 17 18
Dex 7 11 14 16 17
Con 7 12 17 18 19
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 6 9 12 14 15
Cha 3 4 6 8 9

Speed 30’ 50’ 60’ 60’ 70’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 1 2 3 4 4
AC 8 11 14 16 16
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 2d8+2(11) 3d8+9(22) 4d8+16(34) 5d8+20(42)
Attacks -7 melee -4 melee -1 melee +0 melee +1 melee
Damage 1d4-1 1d4 1d4+1 1d4+1 1d4+2
Saves +0/+0/-2 +4/+3/-1 +6/+4/+2 +8/+6/+3 +8/+7/+3
Breed Bonus Feat: Skill Focus (Jump)
Feat 1 Endurance
Feat 2 Run

Skill Ranks
Balance 1 1 1 1 1
Climb
Jump 1 2 3
Listen 1 2 2 2 2
Spot 2 2 2 2 2

Light 80 140 230 260 300
Medium 160 280 460 520 600
Heavy 240 420 690 780 900
Pull 400 700 1150 1300 1500

Price 20gp 70gp 210gp 650gp 2000gp
http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/lipizzaner/lipizzaner4.JPG http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/lipizzaner/lipizzaner2.JPG
Hugin

12-06-04, 10:02 PM		YTHRONNER Medium Horse

The Ythronner is a horse breed in Karameikos about a century ago using the Kerendan,
but it is not quite as good, or as common. However, it is generally more easily managed
than the Kerendan, and is often used as a multi-purpose horse. The ideal Ythronner has
good,
well-shaped shoulders. The back is strong and often straight. Good, strong limbs and
joints are a feature of this bred. Its colours do not vary greatly, ranging only from dark
brown with black legs and mane to bay and a height of 64" - 68" at the shoulders.

Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 9 13 16 17 18
Dex 6 10 13 15 16
Con 7 12 17 18 19
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 7 10 13 15 16
Cha 3 4 6 8 9

Speed 20’ 40’ 50’ 50’ 60’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 1 2 3 4 4
AC 8 11 13 15 16
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 2d8+2(11) 3d8+9(22) 4d8+16(34) 5d8+20(42)
Attacks -7 melee -4 melee -1 melee +0 melee +1 melee
Damage 1d4-1 1d4 1d4+1 1d4+1 1d4+2
Saves +0/+0/-2 +4/+3/-1 +6/+4/+2 +8/+6/+3 +8/+7/+3
Breed Bonus Feat: Easily Managed*
Feat 1 Endurance
Feat 2 Run

Skill Ranks
Balance 1 1 1 1
Climb
Jump 1 1 2
Listen 2 2 2 3 3
Spot 2 2 2 2 2

Light 80 140 230 260 300
Medium 160 280 460 520 600
Heavy 240 420 690 780 900
Pull 400 700 1150 1300 1500

Price 20gp 60gp 180gp 550gp 1600gp

*Easily Managed: Grants a +3 bonus to any Handle Animal check on this animal.

http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/russiantrakhener/bal.JPG http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/russiantrakhener/aragorn.JPG
On the left is an example of brown with black legs and mane, and on the right is the bay (reddish).
Hugin

12-06-04, 11:09 PM		AKHAL-TEKE Light Horse

This is the horse of the Ethengarian hordes and is well rounded in ability. It is very rare
outside Ethengar. The Akhal-Teke is one of the most beautiful, elegant and proud horses
on Mystara but are also vigorous, excitable, and restless. Its endurance is second to
none and it’s resistance to heat is second only to the Alasiyan. The horse of the Ethengars
has a back that is long and a rib-cage that is shallow. The coat is exceptionally
fine and the skin thin, in character with a horse of desert-like origins. It has a distinctive
metallic golden sheen overlaying a fine haired coat coloured dun (yellowish or bluish), bay,
gray, or black. A feature of the breed is a short, silky tail. Height ranges from 59" - 62".

Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 8 13 15 16 17
Dex 8 12 15 17 18
Con 7 12 16 17 18
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 5 8 11 13 14
Cha 5 6 8 10 11

Speed 30’ 50’ 60’ 60’ 70’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 1 2 3 3 4
AC 9 12 14 15 17
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 2d8+2(11) 3d8+9(22) 4d8+12(30) 5d8+20(42)
Attacks -7 melee -4 melee -2 melee +0 melee +0 melee
Damage 1d4-1 1d4 1d4+1 1d4+1 1d4+1
Saves +0/+1/-3 +4/+4/-2 +6/+5/+1 +7/+7/+2 +8/+8/+3
Breed Bonus Feat: Grass Trekker*
Feat 1 Endurance
Feat 2 Run

Skill Ranks
Balance 1 2 2 2 2
Climb
Jump 1 1 2 2 3
Listen 1 1 1 1 1
Spot 1 1 1 2 2

Light 75 140 200 230 260
Medium 150 280 400 460 520
Heavy 225 420 600 690 780
Pull 375 700 1000 1150 1300

Price 20gp 60gp 180gp 540gp 1620gp
Price Note: These prices may increase by as much as double when outside the Khanates.

*Grass Trekker: This is a feat from the Savage Species book. It grants a jump bonus
and a forced march bonus.

http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/akhalteke/akhalteke01.JPG http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/akhalteke/palotly.JPG
Spellweaver

12-07-04, 06:58 AM		Wow!! :cheer: :clap: Outstanding!

Very cool!

I can understand why you were frustrated that nothing will appear in columns in this :censored: CMS - I have had the same problems trying to produce family trees and other stuff with the tabulator keypad.

But whatever you did seems to work out fine and I have been able to copy-paste it to my own campaign files :D

I really, really like giving the species feats!

One question: You mention that the Ethengarian horse has the feat "grass-trekker" and that it gives a bonus to e.g. jump. Have you done any thinking on what sort of food these species require? Can some of the more expensive, finers breeds only survive on premium wheat or can the ponies survive on a few bits of grass on a mountainside?

It seems to me that would make an immense difference, particularly when choosing which horse to outfit one's cavalry with!

Keep up the good work!

;-) Jesper
Hugin

12-07-04, 06:24 PM		I can understand why you were frustrated that nothing will appear in columns in this :censored: CMS - I have had the same problems trying to produce family trees and other stuff with the tabulator keypad.

But whatever you did seems to work out fine and I have been able to copy-paste it to my own campaign files :D
It almost got to the point where I wasn't even going to post them. My main problem was the spacing of the "columns" in the HTML wrap, if they were adjustable, it would have been SOOOO much easier. But, Alas!, I kept tweeking my Word docs so they worked. Now it is basically cut and paste.

I really, really like giving the species feats!
Me too! (I'm not sure if I can post the benefits of feats from Savage Species in more detail or not?)

One question: You mention that the Ethengarian horse has the feat "grass-trekker" and that it gives a bonus to e.g. jump. Have you done any thinking on what sort of food these species require? Can some of the more expensive, finers breeds only survive on premium wheat or can the ponies survive on a few bits of grass on a mountainside?

It seems to me that would make an immense difference, particularly when choosing which horse to outfit one's cavalry with!
That's an interesting thought, unfortunatly I know nothing about this stuff. In fact, I know next to nothing about horses! I just researched them on the internet and loosely based the Mystara horses off ours ! (That's how I get the pics ;) ) 4 down, 16 to go... 17 with the Alfheim horse which I haven't done before... 18 actually for lesser and greater Alfheim horses... I should shut up now...
Hugin

12-07-04, 08:28 PM		KALTSTEIN Heavy Horse

The Kaltstein is a strong horse bred mainly in Darokin for plowing fields and pulling heavy
merchant wagons; preferring the Elstrick for pulling carriages, carts, and the smaller wagons.
A characteristic of these horses, which makes a lasting impression on those who have
handled them, is their good disposition. The person who keeps a team wants one not only
trustworthy, but one in which they can take pride as well. They are usually chestnut,
bay (reddish), or roan (gold, brown or black w/ white hair) but can be found brown or black.
Kaltsteins stand 63" - 67" in height at the shoulders.

Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 11 15 18 19 20
Dex 5 9 12 14 15
Con 7 12 17 18 19
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 7 10 13 15 16
Cha 3 4 6 8 9

Speed 20’ 40’ 50’ 50’ 60’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 2 3 3 4 4
AC 8 11 13 15 15
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 2d8+1(11) 3d8+9(22) 4d8+16(34) 5d8+20(42)
Attacks -6 melee -3 melee +0 melee +1 melee +2 melee
Damage 1d6 1d6+1 1d6+2 1d6+2 1d6+2
Saves +0/-1/-2 +4/+2/+0 +6/+4/+2 +8/+6/+3 +8/+6/+4
Breed Bonus Feat: Skill Focus (Balance)
Feat 1 Endurance
Feat 2 Run

Skill Ranks
Balance 1 1 1 2 2
Climb
Jump
Listen 2 2 3 3 4
Spot 1 2 2 2 2

Light 100 200 300 350 400
Medium 200 400 600 700 800
Heavy 300 600 900 1050 1200
Pull 500 1000 1500 1750 2000

Price 20gp 55gp 170gp 500gp 1500gp
http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/poitevin/hostielinotte.jpg
Hugin

12-07-04, 09:14 PM		ANTALIAN COB Light Horse

Found in the northern climates of Norwold, Heldann, the Reaches, and northern Isle
of Dawn, the Antalian Cob is sturdy, strong, hardy, and surprisingly agile. A notable
feature is the coarse, erect mane, which is characteristic of primitive equines. Were
it left alone, the mane would grow as long as that of any other breed, but by ancient
tradition it is hogged so that the black hairs at the centre stand above the rest. Almost
any colour except a painted pattern and standing 56"-61".

Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 8 13 15 16 17
Dex 8 12 15 17 18
Con 7 12 16 17 18
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 6 9 12 14 15
Cha 3 4 6 8 9

Speed 20’ 40’ 50’ 50’ 60’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 1 2 3 3 4
AC 9 12 14 15 17
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 2d8+2(11) 3d8+9(21) 4d8+12(30) 5d8+20(42)
Attacks -7 melee -4 melee -2 melee +0 melee +0 melee
Damage 1d4-1 1d4 1d4+1 1d4+1 1d4+1
Saves +0/+1/-2 +4/+4/-1 +6/+5/+2 +7/+7/+3 +8/+8/+3
Breed Bonus Feat: Winter’s Child*
Feat 1 Endurance
Feat 2 Run

Skill Ranks
Balance 1 1 1
Climb 1 1 1 1 1
Jump
Listen 2 2 2 3 3
Spot 1 2 2 2 3

Light 75 140 200 230 260
Medium 150 280 400 460 520
Heavy 225 420 600 690 780
Pull 375 700 1000 1150 1300

Price 15gp 45gp 135gp 400gp 1200gp

*Winter’s Child is a feat from Savage Species that lowers the DC of your Fortitude Save
in cold weather, among other things.
http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/fjord/7.jpg http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/fjord/2.jpg
An adult (notice the crescent shape of the mane) and the head of a yearling.
Hugin

12-13-04, 10:58 PM		CABALSAW Pony

These Ponies are a race of small hardy horses, compact and good natured, used as a
pack animal on the Savage Coast. The Cabalsaw has the unusual trait of drinking salt
water, giving them an appearance of being "fat" or "bloated". They are of almost any
colour and from 46" - 50"

Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 6 10 13 14 15
Dex 6 10 13 15 16
Con 6 9 12 14 15
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 5 8 11 13 14
Cha 2 3 4 6 7

Speed 20’ 30’ 40’ 40’ 50’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 0 1 2 3 3
AC 8 11 13 15 16
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 1d8-1(3) 2d8+2(11) 3d8+6(19) 4d8+8(26)
Attacks -7 melee -5 melee -3 melee -1 melee +0 melee
Damage 1d3-2 1d3 1d3 1d3+1 1d3+1
Saves +0/+0/-3 +1/+2/-2 +4/+4/+0 +5/+5/+2 +6/+6/+2
Breed Bonus Feat: Alertness
Feat 1 Endurance
Feat 2 Run

Skill Ranks
Balance 1 1 1 1 2
Climb 1 1 2 2 2
Jump
Listen 1 1 1 1 1
Spot 1 1 1 2 2

Light 30 50 75 90 100
Medium 60 100 150 180 200
Heavy 90 150 225 270 300
Pull 150 250 375 450 500

Price 10gp 25gp 70gp 200gp 600gp

http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/chincoteaguepony/h3.JPG http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/chincoteaguepony/h01.JPG
Hugin

12-13-04, 11:02 PM		RAHEDAN Heavy Horse

This is a horse that the Hattians and Heldannic Knights have bred specifically to achieve
a large and muscular breed ideally suited for carrying armed men into combat. It is
considered to be among the strongest of horses on Mystara. This breed’s ancestors
were originally from the northern climates and its breeding has ensured the animal is
well accustomed to cold weather. The Rahedan is found mainly in Wendar, Heldann,
and Hattias, but is slowly spreading into neighbouring countries like Norwold, the Northern
Reaches, and on the Thyatian mainland as a work horse. It is usually only seen as black,
grey, or brown, and with long white hair on the lower leg covering its feet. 66"- 72"

Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 12 16 19 20 21
Dex 5 9 12 14 15
Con 7 12 17 18 19
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 6 9 12 14 15
Cha 3 4 6 8 9

Speed 20’ 40’ 50’ 50’ 60’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 2 3 3 4 4
AC 8 11 13 15 15
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 2d8+1(11) 3d8+9(22) 4d8+16(34) 5d8+20(42)
Attacks -5 melee -2 melee +0 melee +2 melee +2 melee
Damage 1d6 1d6+1 1d6+2 1d6+2 1d6+2
Saves +0/-1/-2 +4/+2/-1 +6/+4/+2 +8/+6/+3 +8/+6/+3
Breed Bonus Feat: Winter’s Child*
Feat 1 Endurance
Feat 2 Great Fortitude

Skill Ranks
Balance 1 1 2 2 2
Climb
Jump
Listen 2 3 3 3 4
Spot 1 1 1 2 2

Light 120 230 350 400 450
Medium 240 460 700 800 900
Heavy 360 690 1050 1200 1350
Pull 600 1150 1750 2000 2250

Price 25gp 70gp 200gp 600gp 1800gp

*Winter’s Child is a feat from Savage Species that lowers the DC of your Fortitude Save in
cold weather, among other things.
http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/shire/stallion.JPG
Hugin

12-13-04, 11:05 PM		OSTLANDIC Pony

This pony, according to legend and that is generally believed, was originally native only
to the Islands of the Ostlanders as a gift to Cnute from Odin himself. As a result, all
these ponies in Ostland are descended from a relatively small gene pool, but over the
centuries ruthless selection, by man and nature, has eradicated the faults that might
be expected to occur in such a closely related population. This breed has perhaps the
greatest endurance of any pony. The Ostlandic is rather stocky, with a deep chest,
well-set neck and strong limbs, 48" - 52" at the shoulders and almost any colour or
colour combination.

Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 6 10 13 14 15
Dex 6 10 13 15 16
Con 7 10 13 15 16
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 5 8 11 13 14
Cha 2 3 4 6 7

Speed 20’ 30’ 40’ 40’ 50’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 0 1 2 3 3
AC 8 11 13 15 16
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 1d8(4) 2d8+2(11) 3d8+6(19) 4d8+12(30)
Attacks -7 melee -5 melee -3 melee -1 melee +0 melee
Damage 1d3-2 1d3 1d3 1d3+1 1d3+1
Saves +0/+0/-3 +2/+2/-2 +4/+4/+0 +5/+5/+2 +6/+6/+2
Breed Bonus Feat: Winter’s Child*
Feat 1 Endurance
Feat 2 Toughness

Skill Ranks
Balance 1 1 1 1 1
Climb 1 1 1 1 1
Jump
Listen 1 1 1 2 3
Spot 1 1 2 2 2

Light 30 50 75 90 100
Medium 60 100 150 180 200
Heavy 90 150 225 270 300
Pull 150 250 375 450 500

Price 10gp 25gp 80gp 240gp 700gp

*Winter’s Child is a feat from Savage Species that lowers the DC of your Fortitude Save in
cold weather, among other things.
http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/icelandic/icelandic3.GIF
Spellweaver

12-14-04, 08:28 AM		I'm hooked! :cheer: :clap: Keep 'em coming!

;-) Jesper
Hugin

12-20-04, 09:47 PM		RANDELLYN BAY Heavy Horse

This horse is both strong and easily handled. They are mainly found on Alphatia but
also appear in any most areas controlled by this Empire. The Randellyn Bay is used primarily
as a work horse, ploughing fields, drawing carriages, and as a durable pack animal. They
also prove to be courageous but are still rarely trained as war horses. The Randellyn Bay
has nice action covering the ground well with elegant paces, they are highly intelligent
and learn fast, once taught they never forget. Its colouring is purely Bay with black
points, black legs to just above the knee, black mane and tail. They stand 64" - 66" at
the shoulders.

Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 11 15 18 19 20
Dex 5 9 12 14 15
Con 7 12 17 18 19
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 8 11 14 16 17
Cha 3 4 6 8 9

Speed 20’ 40’ 50’ 50’ 60’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 2 3 3 4 4
AC 8 11 13 15 15
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 2d8+1(11) 3d8+9(22) 4d8+16(34) 5d8+20(42)
Attacks -6 melee -3 melee +0 melee +1 melee +2 melee
Damage 1d6 1d6+1 1d6+2 1d6+2 1d6+2
Saves +0/-1/-1 +4/+2/+0 +6/+4/+3 +8/+6/+4 +8/+6/+4
Breed Bonus Feat: Easily Managed*
Feat 1 Endurance
Feat 2 Run

Skill Ranks
Balance 1 1 1 2 2
Climb
Jump
Listen 2 2 3 3 3
Spot 1 2 2 2 3

Light 100 200 300 350 400
Medium 200 400 600 700 800
Heavy 300 600 900 1050 1200
Pull 500 1000 1500 1750 2000

Price 25gp 75gp 220gp 650gp 1900gp

*Easily Managed: Grants a +3 bonus to any Handle Animal check on this animal.
http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/clevelandbay/grace.JPG
Hugin

12-20-04, 10:21 PM		CAYUSE Medium Horse

One of the horses used by the Atruaghin peoples, it has good balance but is also strong
and well behaved. They have since been traded in small numbers with Darokin and so are
found here and there around the western portion of the Known World. This breed is
becoming well-known for it's stocky build, heavy muscling and compact appearance.
The origins of the Cayuse are unknown. They appear in almost any colour, however no
white markings except for below the knees or on the face. The Cayuse is usually
56" - 54" tall.

Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 10 14 17 18 19
Dex 7 11 14 16 17
Con 6 11 16 17 18
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 6 9 12 14 15
Cha 3 4 6 8 9

Speed 20’ 40’ 50’ 50’ 60’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 1 2 3 4 4
AC 8 11 14 16 16
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 2d8(9) 3d8+9(22) 4d8+12(30) 5d8+20(42)
Attacks -6 melee -3 melee -1 melee +1 melee +1 melee
Damage 1d4 1d4+1 1d4+1 1d4+2 1d4+2
Saves +0/+0/-2 +3/+3/-1 +6/+5/+2 +7/+7/+3 +8/+7/+3
Breed Bonus Feat: Skill Focus (Balance)
Feat 1 Endurance
Feat 2 Run

Skill Ranks
Balance 1 1 1 2 2
Climb 1 1 1
Jump
Listen 2 2 2 2 3
Spot 1 2 2 2 2

Light 90 170 260 300 350
Medium 180 340 520 600 700
Heavy 270 510 780 900 1050
Pull 450 850 1300 1500 1750

Price 20gp 60gp 180gp 550gp 1650gp
http://www.granadafarms.com/images/stallions/runaway2.jpg
Hugin

12-23-04, 10:53 PM		ALASIYAN Light Horse

In temperament, Alasiyans are intelligent, affectionate, fiery, courageous, and gentle,
with high self-esteem. These high-strung horses are prized greatly by the Ylari for their
speed, jumping ability, and endurance in the desert. It is said of these noble animals that
when move, they have the appearance of floating on air. Alasiyans usually come in
chestnut (gold), bay (reddish), grey, or black, but may be of any solid colour as well as
white markings. Height ranges from about 57" - 61".

Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 7 12 14 15 16
Dex 9 13 16 18 19
Con 6 11 15 16 17
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 4 7 10 12 13
Cha 4 5 7 9 10

Speed 40’ 60’ 70’ 70’ 80’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 1 2 3 3 4
AC 8 11 14 15 16
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 2d8(9) 3d8+6(19) 4d8+12(30) 5d8+15(37)
Attacks -8 melee -4 melee -2 melee -1 melee +0 melee
Damage 1d4-2 1d4 1d4+1 1d4+1 1d4+1
Saves +0/+1/-3 +3/+4/-2 +5/+6/+1 +7/+8/+2 +7/+8/+2
Breed Bonus Feat: Desert Dweller
Feat 1 Endurance
Feat 2 Run

Skill Ranks
Balance
Climb
Jump 2 2 3 3 4
Listen 1 2 2 3 3
Spot 1 1 1 1 1

Light 70 120 170 200 230
Medium 140 240 340 400 460
Heavy 210 360 510 600 690
Pull 350 600 850 1000 1150

Price 20gp 60gp 180gp 550gp 1700gp

* Desert Dweller is a feat from Savage Species that lowers the DC of your Fortitude Save
in hot weather among other things.
http://www.arabhorse.com/show_results/2004/paris/photos/head/Colts_AjmanMoniscione_137_P.jpg http://www.arabhorse.com/show_results/2004/paris/photos/stallions/1_CH_Eternity_422_Paris04.jpg
Hugin

01-03-05, 08:57 PM		PERCHERVAL Heavy Horse

This is a large, noble looking work horse found primarily in Glantri, but has spread over
the western half of the Known World. The Percherval is a gentle spirited horse that is
well known for its ease of handling. They appear only as grey, dapple, or black and
stand at a good 63" - 69".

Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 10 14 17 18 19
Dex 5 9 12 14 15
Con 7 12 17 18 19
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 8 11 14 16 17
Cha 3 4 6 8 9

Speed 20’ 40’ 50’ 50’ 60’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 2 3 3 4 4
AC 8 11 13 15 15
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 2d8+1(11) 3d8+9(22) 4d8+16(34) 5d8+20(42)
Attacks -6 melee -3 melee -1 melee +1 melee +1 melee
Damage 1d6 1d6+1 1d6+1 1d6+2 1d6+2
Saves +0/-1/-1 +4/+2/+0 +6/+4/+3 +8/+6/+4 +8/+6/+4
Breed Bonus Feat: *Easily Managed
Feat 1 Endurance
Feat 2 Run

Skill Ranks
Balance 1 1 2 2 3
Climb
Jump
Listen 2 2 2 3 3
Spot 1 2 2 2 2

Light 100 200 300 350 400
Medium 200 400 600 700 800
Heavy 300 600 900 1050 1200
Pull 500 1000 1500 1750 2000

Price 20gp 60gp 180gp 550gp 1600gp

*Easily Managed: Grants a +3 bonus to any Handle Animal check on this animal.

http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/percheron/misty.JPG http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/percheron/team.JPG
Hugin

01-03-05, 09:49 PM		ELSTRICK Medium Horse

The dominate horse in Darokin used for pulling carts and carriages. It has good eyesight
as well as endurance and toughness. Elstricks have short backs, but it is their luxuriant,
long mane and tail, that appeal to merchants who desire a little touch of elegance pulling
their goods, and them selves around. Usually reddish in colour, but this can vary from
brown to black. Height ranges from 60" - 64" in most cases.

Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 10 14 17 18 19
Dex 5 9 12 14 15
Con 7 12 17 18 19
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 7 10 13 15 16
Cha 3 4 6 8 9

Speed 20’ 40’ 50’ 50’ 60’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 1 2 3 4 4
AC 7 10 13 15 15
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 2d8+2(11) 3d8+9(22) 4d8+16(34) 5d8+20(42)
Attacks -6 melee -3 melee -1 melee +1 melee +1 melee
Damage 1d4-1 1d4 1d4+1 1d4+2 1d4+2
Saves +2/-1/-2 +7/+2/+0 +8/+4/+2 +10/+6/+3 +10/+6/+4
Breed Bonus Feat: Great Fortitude
Feat 1 Endurance
Feat 2 Run

Skill Ranks
Balance 1 1 2 2 3
Climb
Jump
Listen 1 2 2 2 2
Spot 2 3 3 4 4

Light 90 170 260 300 350
Medium 180 340 520 600 700
Heavy 270 510 780 900 1050
Pull 450 850 1300 1500 1750

Price 20gp 60gp 175gp 525gp 1600gp

Sorry, no pics at the moment. :(
Hugin

01-03-05, 10:52 PM		ARAPALOOSA Light Horse

Renown for its strength, balance, and climbing ability among the Savage Coast region,
this breed was selectively bred to be an all-purpose horse. The arapaloosa can be found
as a pack animal, a riding horse, and the power pulling a cart. They would have completely
displaced the Guadalante variety if it wasn’t for the fact that the Arapaloosa is more free-
spirited and less courageous, making for a war horse inferior to those of the Guadalante.
These horses come in solid colours as well as some contrasting patterns; Leopard (white
with dark blotches over the hind quarters), snowflake (spots all over, more predominately
on the hind), blanket (blotches over upper hind), marble (white over the hip area with a
contrasting base color), frost (white specks with a dark background). Height ranges from
56" - 63" at the shoulders.

Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 8 12 15 16 17
Dex 7 11 14 16 17
Con 6 11 15 16 17
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 5 8 11 13 14
Cha 3 4 6 8 9

Speed 30’ 50’ 60’ 60’ 70’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 1 2 3 3 4
AC 8 11 14 15 16
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 2d8(9) 3d8+6(19) 4d8+12(30) 5d8+15(37)
Attacks -8 melee -4 melee -2 melee +0 melee +0 melee
Damage 1d4-1 1d4 1d4+1 1d4+1 1d4+1
Saves +0/+0/-3 +3/+3/-1 +5/+5/+1 +7/+7/+2 +7/+7/+3
Breed Bonus Feat: Skill Focus (Climbing)
Feat 1 Run
Feat 2 Endurance

Skill Ranks
Balance 1 2 2 2 3
Climb
Jump 1 1 2 2 2
Listen 1 1 1 2 2
Spot 1 1 1 1 1

Light 75 120 200 230 260
Medium 150 240 400 460 520
Heavy 225 360 600 690 780
Pull 375 600 1000 1150 1300

Price 15gp 45gp 130gp 400gp 1200gp

Sorry, no pics for this one either, yet.
Hugin

01-16-05, 06:17 PM		“PAINTED” Light Horse

These horses ran wild in the hilly grasslands surrounding the Sind Desert and Plain of Fire.
It is the first horse to be used by the Atruaghin people, and can also be found in Sind
and as far as the Savage Coast. This horse has many names; the Atruaghins simply called it
Kotla, meaning "painted", or Gyuda’n meaning “horse”. It is interesting that the Sindi word
for horse is Ghoda, and that they also call the horse Chitra, which is Sindi for “painted”.
This is a good climbing horse with nice stability that is (as the Atruaghins say) "always
aware of what is happening around it, often before you are". The “painted” horse gets its
name from the two pattern variations it can be found in; Overo, which is a solid colour with
large uneven patches of white all over body, or tobiano, which is a white coat with large
uneven patches of solid colour. The colour can be nearly any but is always the same across
the horse’s body. This is one of the smallest of Mystara’s true horses at between 55" - 61"
and its speed is not as great as other light horses.

Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 7 12 14 15 16
Dex 8 12 15 17 18
Con 6 11 15 16 17
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 9 12 15 17 18
Cha 3 4 6 8 9

Speed 20’ 40’ 50’ 50’ 60’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 1 2 3 3 4
AC 9 12 14 15 17
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 2d8(9) 3d8+6(19) 4d8+12(30) 5d8+15(37)
Attacks -8 melee -4 melee -2 melee -1 melee +0 melee
Damage 1d4-2 1d4 1d4+1 1d4+1 1d4+1
Saves +0/+1/-1 +3/+4/+1 +5/+5/+3 +7/+7/+4 +7/+8/+5
Breed Bonus Feat: Alertness
Feat 1 Endurance
Feat 2 Run

Skill Ranks
Balance 1 1 1 1 1
Climb 1 1 2 2 2
Jump
Listen 1 2 2 2 3
Spot 1 1 1 2 2

Light 70 120 170 200 230
Medium 140 240 340 400 460
Heavy 210 360 510 600 690
Pull 350 600 850 1000 1150

Price 15gp 45gp 125gp 375gp 1100gp
http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/americanpaint/WaterBreak.jpg
This is an example of the tobiano pattern; a white coat with dark brown patches.
Hugin

01-17-05, 09:25 PM		CRUTH MOUNTAIN Pony

This is a great pack animal for rugged terrain and is also used as mounts by adventurous
hin that want to go off the wagon trail. The Cruth pony is found in its greatest
numbers in and around the Cruth Mountains, including Darokin, through the Shires, and
into Karameikos. This is a remarkable pony for rugged terrain, possessing great stability
and fortitude. However, although this pony has been “domesticated” for centuries, it
still has its sense of freedom and individuality, and can therefore be a bit stubborn. The
head of the Cruth Mountain Pony is its distinguishing feature; it is small, with neat pointed
ears, big bold eyes and a wide forehead. The Cruth is usually brown, grey, or chestnut, but
can be of almost any colour and stands between 44" - 48" at the shoulders.

Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 7 11 14 15 16
Dex 7 11 14 16 17
Con 7 10 13 15 16
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 4 7 10 12 13
Cha 2 3 4 6 7

Speed 20’ 30’ 40’ 40’ 50’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 0 1 2 3 3
AC 8 11 14 16 16
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 1d8(4) 2d8+2(11) 3d8+6(19) 4d8+12(30)
Attacks -7 melee -5 melee -2 melee -1 melee +1 melee
Damage 1d3-2 1d3 1d3+1 1d3+1 1d3+1
Saves +0/+0/-3 +2/+2/-2 +4/+5/+0 +5/+6/+2 +10/+7/+2
Breed Bonus Feat: Peak Hopper*
Feat 1 Endurance
Feat 2 Great Fortitude

Skill Ranks
Balance 1 1 2 2 2
Climb 1 1 1 1 1
Jump
Listen 1 1 1 2 2
Spot 1 1 1 1 2

Light 35 60 90 100 115
Medium 70 120 180 200 230
Heavy 105 180 270 300 350
Pull 175 300 450 500 575

Price 8gp 25gp 70gp 200gp 600gp

*Peak Hopper is a feat from Savage Species that grants a bonus to balance and climb checks.
http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/welsh/sectiona.JPG
Hugin

01-17-05, 09:30 PM		For anybody that is using these horses, please note that I had to correct a mistake on the Cabalsaw and Ostlandic ponies' Feat 2 entries (shhh... I messed up).
Hugin

01-29-05, 04:29 PM		TILSDALE Heavy Horse

These horses were first bred in the Klantyre and Krondahar regions of Glantri for ploughing
he fields of the broad Vesubian Valley. The vast majority of tilsdales are solid coloured bay
or brown with four white legs; the long silky feathering around the feet being a distinctive
feature, with softer hair than the rest. As the white colouring was introduced for the legs in
typical Glantrian flare, the breed experienced a "spread" and resulted in more colour variations.
Traditionalists are more likely to favour the bay or brown colours, and these are often slightly
more expensive, but the horse also comes in black, grey, or roan (gold, brown or black
with white hair). Typical heights are between 64" - 69".

Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 11 15 18 19 20
Dex 5 9 12 14 15
Con 7 12 17 18 19
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 6 9 12 14 15
Cha 4 5 7 9 10

Speed 20’ 40’ 50’ 50’ 60’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 2 3 3 4 4
AC 8 11 13 15 15
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 2d8+1(11) 3d8+9(22) 4d8+16(34) 5d8+20(42)
Attacks -6 melee -3 melee +0 melee +1 melee +2 melee
Damage 1d6 1d6+1 1d6+2 1d6+2 1d6+2
Saves +0/-1/-2 +4/+2/-1 +6/+4/+2 +8/+6/+3 +8/+6/+3
Breed Bonus Feat: Great Fortitude
Feat 1 Endurance
Feat 2 Run

Skill Ranks
Balance 1 1 2 3 3
Climb
Jump
Listen 2 2 2 2 3
Spot 1 2 2 2 2

Light 100 200 300 350 400
Medium 200 400 600 700 800
Heavy 300 600 900 1050 1200
Pull 500 1000 1500 1750 2000

Price 20gp 55gp 170gp 510gp 1500gp

http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/clydesdale/new4.JPG http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/clydesdale/ccut.JPG
Hugin

02-15-05, 11:21 PM		GUADALANTE Medium Horse

Originating in the region now known as the Yazak Steppes, the first humans to domesticate
this breed is believed to be the Oltecs. Elves that settled in the Savage Coast region
also used these horses. This breed has gone by many, many names over its very long history.
In the Known World area where this breed is only now becoming more readily available than
rare, it is referred to as the Guadalante; after the very young nation where the locals call it
“their horse”. Muscular in build, the overall picture of the Guadalante is a horse of great
beauty and balance, loved for its mobility and trainability. Most are coloured grey or bay but
they also come in black, chestnut, or white. Heights are generally 60" - 64".

Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 9 13 16 17 18
Dex 7 11 14 16 17
Con 6 11 16 17 18
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 8 11 14 16 17
Cha 4 5 7 9 10

Speed 20’ 40’ 50’ 50’ 60’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 1 2 3 4 4
AC 8 11 14 16 16
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 2d8(9) 3d8+9(22) 4d8+12(30) 5d8+20(42)
Attacks -7 melee -4 melee -1 melee +0 melee +1 melee
Damage 1d4-1 1d4 1d4+1 1d4+1 1d4+2
Saves +0/+0/-1 +3/+3/+0 +6/+4/+3 +7/+6/+4 +8/+7/+4
Breed Bonus Feat: Easily Managed*
Feat 1 Endurance
Feat 2 Run

Skill Ranks
Balance 1 1 1 1 1
Climb
Jump 1 1 2 2 3
Listen 1 2 2 2 2
Spot 1 1 1 2 2

Light 80 140 230 260 300
Medium 160 280 460 520 600
Heavy 240 420 690 780 900
Pull 400 700 1150 1300 1500

Price 25gp 70gp 190gp 570gp 1700gp

*Easily Managed: Grants a +3 bonus to any Handle Animal check on this animal.
http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/andalusian/andspot.jpg http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/andalusian/andstal.jpg
havard

02-16-05, 10:13 AM		I am enjoying this thread very much Hugin, especially with the prictures, to get some idea what these horses look like.

Keep em coming! :)

Håvard
Hugin

02-16-05, 07:41 PM		Thanks for the encouragement, Havard!

For anybody who is asking themselves "Why is this guy bothering with all this work just for some stupid horses?", the answer was displayed as recently as last game session when one player said to another player "This isn't just a horse! This is one of the finest Ethengarian Akhal-Teke steeds, and if you recall, he saved your lives". :D

Well, there's only two more to do and then there's the Alfhiem horse... both of them.
If someone has any ideas or comments on these horses, I'd be interested in hearing them.
Spellweaver

02-16-05, 08:14 PM		Don't have anything to comment on the steeds other than I also enjoy the posts and look forward to using it in my campaign. I have begun to view the horse races like cars. Some people prefer Crystler, others a Lambogini and others yet a Mercedes. Why should it be any different with mounts in a fantasy world? Horses of different races of high quality could, and should IMO, hold the same level of interest and prestige as expensive cars do in ours.

Just my :twocents: worth

:-) Jesper
Hugin

02-16-05, 08:34 PM		Thanks funny, Spellweaver because that is exactly the analogy I used with my players in describing the breeds and qualities. Great minds... ;)
Hugin

02-21-05, 10:05 PM		THOTHIAN Pony

The Thothian pony is almost exclusive to the Lower Thothia grasslands on the Isle of Dawn.
The only notable exceptions are among wealthy citizens of the Empires of Thyatis or
Alphatia that purchase these diminutive ponies for their young children. Their origin is certainly
as ancient as it is forgotten (to all save a very, very few). In behaviour and loyalty, it is
claimed to be like that of the gentlest dog. Buyer beware however, the smallest of
these ponies are breed by horse traders to achieve their petite size, but at the expense
of everything else. This means a person could find themselves paying for superior or
superb stock for a “miniature” animal, but with the attributes of a poor pony or even a nag.
The standard Thothian is usually black, brown, chestnut, grey, or patchy and between
40" - 44" whereas the “miniature” Thothian that some profit-seekers have developed can
mature at under 34”.

Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 4 8 11 12 13
Dex 5 9 12 14 15
Con 7 10 13 15 16
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 8 11 14 15 16
Cha 4 5 6 8 9

Speed 20’ 20’ 30’ 40’ 40’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 0 1 2 3 3
AC 7 10 13 15 15
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 1d8(4) 2d8+2(11) 3d8+6(19) 4d8+12(30)
Attacks -8 melee -6 melee -4 melee -2 melee -1 melee
Damage 1d3-3 1d3-1 1d3 1d3+1 1d3+1
Saves +0/-1/-1 +2/+1/+1 +4/+4/+2 +7/+5/+3 +9/+6/+4
Breed Bonus Feat: Easily Managed*
Feat 1 Endurance
Feat 2 Great Fortitude

Skill Ranks
Balance 2 2 2 2 3
Climb 1 1
Jump
Listen 1 1 2 2 2
Spot 1 1 1 1 1

Light 20 40 60 65 75
Medium 40 80 120 130 150
Heavy 60 120 180 195 225
Pull 100 200 300 325 375

Price 8gp 25gp 80gp 250gp 750gp

*Easily Managed: Grants a +3 bonus to any Handle Animal check on this animal.
http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/shetland/b3.jpg http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/shetland/b1.jpg
First picture is of mares and foals, and the second is of a stallion.
Hugin

02-21-05, 11:14 PM		:pint: Finally, all my original horse breeds have been updated in 3E. Please note that all the ponies have been updated as well; I calculated their loads as a large animal instead of a medium animal, but it's all fixed now.

Of course, this doesn't necessarily mean the list includes every horse breed there is on Mystara. I'm going to do a slight variation of the Cruth mountain-pony for the Dwarves of Rockhome. There's also the lesser and greater Alfheim horses that I'm going to do up.

Hopefully the next thing to post is the "War Mount" template. I actually used a level progression (which I can't seem to find at the moment) back when I played OD&D rules and was therefore going to "convert" that into a 5-level PrC for horses. But now that I've really looked into it, I think it might get a little too powerful (10 HD horse anyone?).

Anyway, once a horse has successfully been trained for combat riding (through the handle animal check in the PHB), the template gets added to the horse. Rather basic really but I'll see what I can do to spice it up a bit.
Spellweaver

02-22-05, 09:58 AM		Sounds great! I am looking forward to seeing it!

:-) Jesper
stanles

02-24-05, 04:27 AM		:pint: Finally, all my original horse breeds have been updated in 3E.

how about the Arapaloosa?
Gazza555

02-24-05, 04:36 AM		how about the Arapaloosa?

Scroll up Shawn :D

(no pics though)

Gary
stanles

02-24-05, 04:46 AM		Scroll up Shawn :D

(no pics though)

Gary

stoopid, I did a find on that page and couldn't find it. I did miss it when it was first posted though. Got it now at least.
Hugin

03-05-05, 10:39 AM		LIGHT HORSE BASE STATS
Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 7 12 14 15 16
Dex 7 11 14 16 17
Con 6 11 15 16 17
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 6 9 12 14 15
Cha 3 4 6 8 9

Speed 30’ 50’ 60’ 60’ 70’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 1 2 3 3 4
AC 8 11 14 15 16
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 2d8(9) 3d8+6(19) 4d8+12(30) 5d8+15(37)
Attacks -8 melee -4 melee -2 melee -1 melee +0 melee
Damage 1d4-2 1d4 1d4+1 1d4+1 1d4+1
Saves +0/+0/-2 +3/+3/-1 +5/+5/+2 +7/+7/+3 +7/+7/+3
Breed Bonus Feat: (any)
Feat 1 (first feat is usually endurance)
Feat 2 (second feat is usually run)

Skill Ranks (I consider each of these skills a class skill for a horse; a nag starts with
four skill ranks and each quality class has one more rank than the next lower class)
Balance
Climb
Jump
Listen
Spot
Light 70 120 170 200 230
Medium 140 240 340 400 460
Heavy 210 360 510 600 690
Pull 350 600 850 1000 1150


MEDIUM HORSE BASE STATS
Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 9 13 16 17 18
Dex 6 10 13 15 16
Con 6 11 16 17 18
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 6 9 12 14 15
Cha 3 4 6 8 9

Speed 20’ 40’ 50’ 50’ 60’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 1 2 3 4 4
AC 8 11 13 15 16
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 2d8(9) 3d8+9(22) 4d8+12(30) 5d8+20(42)
Attacks -7 melee -4 melee -1 melee +0 melee +1 melee
Damage 1d4-1 1d4 1d4+1 1d4+1 1d4+2
Saves +0/+0/-2 +3/+3/-1 +6/+4/+2 +7/+6/+3 +8/+7/+3
Breed Bonus Feat: (any)
Feat 1 (first feat is usually endurance)
Feat 2 (second feat is usually run)

Skill Ranks (I consider each of these skills a class skill for a horse; a nag starts with
four skill ranks and each quality class has one more rank than the next lower class)
Balance

Climb
Jump
Listen
Spot

Light 80 140 230 260 300
Medium 160 280 460 520 600
Heavy 240 420 690 780 900
Pull 400 700 1150 1300 1500


HEAVY HORSE BASE STATS
Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 11 15 18 19 20
Dex 5 9 12 14 15
Con 7 12 17 18 19
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 6 9 12 14 15
Cha 3 4 6 8 9

Speed 20’ 40’ 50’ 50’ 60’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 2 3 3 4 4
AC 8 11 13 15 15
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 2d8+1(11) 3d8+9(22) 4d8+16(34) 5d8+20(42)
Attacks -6 melee -3 melee +0 melee +1 melee +2 melee
Damage 1d6 1d6+1 1d6+2 1d6+2 1d6+2
Saves +0/-1/-2 +4/+2/-1 +6/+4/+2 +8/+6/+3 +8/+6/+3
Breed Bonus Feat: (any)
Feat 1 (first feat is usually endurance)
Feat 2 (second feat is usually run)

Skill Ranks (I consider each of these skills a class skill for a horse; a nag starts with
four skill ranks and each quality class has one more rank than the next lower class)
Balance
Climb
Jump
Listen
Spot

Light 100 200 300 350 400
Medium 200 400 600 700 800
Heavy 300 600 900 1050 1200
Pull 500 1000 1500 1750 2000


PONY BASE STATS
Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 6 10 13 14 15
Dex 6 10 13 15 16
Con 6 9 12 14 15
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 5 8 11 13 14
Cha 2 3 4 6 7

Speed 20’ 30’ 40’ 40’ 50’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 0 1 2 3 3
AC 8 11 13 15 16
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 1d8-1(3) 2d8+2(11) 3d8+6(19) 4d8+8(26)
Attacks -7 melee -5 melee -3 melee -1 melee +0 melee
Damage 1d3-2 1d3 1d3 1d3+1 1d3+1
Saves +0/+0/-3 +1/+2/-2 +4/+4/+0 +5/+5/+2 +6/+6/+2
Breed Bonus Feat: (any)
Feat 1 (first feat is usually endurance)
Feat 2 (second feat is usually run)
Skill Ranks
Balance
Climb
Jump
Listen
Spot

Light 30 50 75 90 100
Medium 60 100 150 180 200
Heavy 90 150 225 270 300
Pull 150 250 375 450 500
(Note that a pony is a medium size animal)
These are the base stats that I used to make the various breeds. I thought I might as well share them so that if anyboby wanted to make some other breeds it would be a little easier. I actually noticed an error with the speed figures of the Cabalsaw Pony while doing this, so they have been corrected.

I haven't had the chance to sit down and do the Alfheim Horse yet but I did do some reading on it. Two facts stand out;
1) It is a small horse that the gaz calls a "pony".
2) It is speculated that the horse is related to the Steppe horses of Ethengar, which is also called a "pony" in gaz 5, but refered to as a "light horse" in gaz 12.

I'm inclined to have the Alfheim related to the Enthengarian horse, but of a smaller size; small enough to be a pony. I think a pony is more the elves style anyway, possibly bred that way from the original stock by the elves.
Gazza555

03-10-05, 04:42 AM		Hugin

Just rembered that there are the Krugel ponies in Hollow World. I can give you their BD&D stat's if you want to use/convert them.

Gary
Hugin

03-10-05, 07:08 PM		Hugin

Just rembered that there are the Krugel ponies in Hollow World. I can give you their BD&D stat's if you want to use/convert them.

Gary
Thanks, Gary. I looked in the HW DM's Sourcebook and saw where it mentions "wild ponies", but I could'nt find any stats or description. If you could tell me where they're found, that would be great.

Btw, impressive recall!
Gazza555

03-14-05, 04:25 AM		I believe that they are in the Adventures booklet from the boxed set.

Gary
Hugin

03-14-05, 08:33 AM		Found it! Thanks again, Gary!
Hugin

03-27-05, 04:32 PM		KRUGEL Pony

The preferred Krugel mount is a large species of pony standing 50”-56” in height. Not so
fleet as a riding horse, it is very nimble, especially good at taking the broken terrain of the
Krugel lands and southern foothills. They are predominately grey and palamino, with
other solid colours including black, brown, and bay.

Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 8 12 15 16 17
Dex 7 11 14 16 17
Con 6 9 12 14 15
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 5 8 11 13 14
Cha 2 2 3 5 6

Speed 20’ 30’ 40’ 40’ 50’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 0 1 2 3 3
AC 8 11 14 16 16
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 1d8-1(3) 2d8+2(11) 3d8+6(19) 4d8+8(26)
Attacks -6 melee -4 melee -2 melee +0 melee +1 melee
Damage 1d3-1 1d3 1d3+1 1d3+1 1d3+1
Saves +0/+0/-3 +1/+2/-2 +4/+5/+0 +5/+6/+2 +6/+6/+2
Breed Bonus Feat: Peak Hopper*
Feat 1 Endurance
Feat 2 Run

Skill Ranks
Balance 2 2 2 3 3
Climb 1 1 2 2 2
Jump
Listen 1 1 1 1 2
Spot

Light 40 65 100 115 130
Medium 80 130 200 230 260
Heavy 120 200 300 345 390
Pull 200 325 500 575 650

Price 15gp 30gp 90gp 275gp 800gp

* Peak Hopper is a feat from Savage Species that grants a bonus to Climb and Balance checks.

http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/eriskay/Larkphoto.jpg http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/eriskay/eriskay.JPG
Hugin

04-12-05, 11:46 PM		ROCHUIN GILTIRN Pony (lesser)

“Rochuin Giltirn” is the name of the great Alfheim pony in the tongue of the elves that bred
them. It translates as “the swift horse of the Star Watcher”, referring of course to their
king of legend, King Mealiden. Shortly after the founding of Alfheim (to the elves a couple of
centuries are not all that long), this king was introduced to chevalls from the Traldar lands to
the south. The elves created a marvellous forest, but the horses that inhabited the
steppes that were once in its place were not adjusting to the new environment,
and thus their reproductive rates were falling. To help the elves with their dwindling herd
of ponies, the unicorns and chevalls began selective cross-breeding that lead to the modern elven pony.
The “lesser” Rochuin Giltirn (simply called the Rochuin or Alfhiem by the fast-talking horse traders)
is the only variety allowed outside of the nation of Alfheim and is usually still proclaimed as
“genuine” Alfheim ponies. These are short-legged, quick, mobile and highly prized for their
“intelligence” and ability to fight on their own. The pony’s coat displays its relationship to the
Akhal-Teke; it is fine haired with some metallic golden sheen and generally coloured bay,
brown, or black. The tail of the Rochuin Giltirn is also like the Akhal-Teke, being silky but
longer, and its height ranges from 50” – 56”.

Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 6 10 13 14 15
Dex 8 12 15 17 18
Con 6 9 12 14 15
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 7 10 13 15 15
Cha 3 4 5 7 8

Speed 30’ 40’ 50’ 50’ 60’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 0 1 2 3 3
AC 9 12 14 16 17
Hit Dice 1d8-2(2) 1d8-1(3) 2d8+2(11) 3d8+6(19) 4d8+8(26)
Attacks -6 melee -4 melee -2 melee +0 melee +1 melee
Damage 1d3-2 1d3 1d3 1d3+1 1d3+1
Saves +0/+1/-3 +1/+3/-2 +4/+5/+0 +5/+6/+2 +6/+7/+2
Breed Bonus Feat: Weapon Finesse
Feat 1 Run
Feat 2 Endurance

Skill Ranks
Balance
Climb 1 1 1 1 1
Jump 1 1 2 2 3
Listen 1 1 1 1 1
Spot 1 1 1 2 2

Light 30 50 75 90 100
Medium 60 100 150 180 200
Heavy 90 150 225 270 300
Pull 150 250 375 450 500

Price 15gp 40gp 100gp 300gp 900gp

http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/newforest/mtrooper.jpg http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/newforest/wildponies.jpg
Spellweaver

04-17-05, 05:48 AM		Cool, thank's again Hugin for posting these! :clap:

:-) Jesper
Hugin

04-19-05, 09:03 PM		The training of a horse to become a mount for use in combat requires a least two steps. The first is the conditioning of the horse to accept a rider and respond to his prompts. This takes about three weeks and a successful Handle Animal check (DC 15). This allows normal Ride checks on the horse. Without this training, just getting on the horse takes a Ride check (DC 20), and staying in the saddle also requires Ride checks (DC 15). This adds around 15% - 25% to the value of the horse.

Once the horse has been trained for riding, the horse can be conditioned for the chaotic enviroment of battle and for more aggressive use of it's hooves. This also takes three weeks and a successful Handle Animal check (DC 20). This increases the horse's value again by about 10% - 15%. This training has several effects on the horse;

- Melee attacks with hooves are no longer considered to be secondary and therefore do not suffer the -5 penalty to hit (add +5 to the listed melee attack bonus). Damage also now receives the full strength modifier.
- Can now use a bite attack as a secondary attack form at a -5 to hit and one-half strength modifier applied to damage.
- Fight with Warhorse Ride checks can now be attempted to attack with both the horse and a weapon.
- Control Mount in Combat Ride checks no longer need to be made for normal combat situations.
Hugin

04-19-05, 09:19 PM		Well, as you can see above, I've finally decided on how to handle taking the horse to warhorse. In years past I used a kind of "class" for horses including levels (5 in total) and I had seriously thought about doing the same thing for them when I changed over to 3E. After alot of reading, thinking, and rethinking, I felt it was best to kept things simple and straight forward with existing rules. This was actually my second time working it out; I did it last night only to loss it all when I tried to submit it. It was 12:30 in the night so I gave up and went to bed! :weep:

Anyway, there it is, comments always appreciated.
Spellweaver

04-20-05, 05:51 AM		As usual, I am very impressed and like it very much.

I am already thinking about how a member of my party should be offered a Stregger that nobody has been able to tame and train... :plotting:

Thus, getting a "personal" horse of high quality becomes a little adventure in itself. :)

:-) Jesper
Hugin

04-21-05, 12:27 AM		As usual, I am very impressed and like it very much.

I am already thinking about how a member of my party should be offered a Stregger that nobody has been able to tame and train... :plotting:

Thus, getting a "personal" horse of high quality becomes a little adventure in itself. :)

:-) Jesper
Thanks, Jesper! Many stories where the hero has a horse, it is often portrayed as a character onto itself, so why not a little adventure to get it. You could give some of the more "spirited" individual horses a circumstance penalty to the handle animal check raising the DC to "break" him. I bet the character will think a little more of his horse than just something to carry stuff.
chatdemon

04-27-05, 09:11 AM		What, no Bovine Philly? [/KODT]

Seriously though, this is good stuff. I'm using OD&D, so the actual stats I may disregard, but the descriptions are great setting fluff to add some variety and uniqueness to an otherwise mundane aspect of the game. I like adding things that can give the owners a sense of individuality and pride in ownership without having to dump a weird mighty magica item on the player, so these detailed horses will come in handy. Nice work.
Hugin

04-27-05, 06:48 PM		Glad you enjoyed the horses, chatdemon. I certainly agree that the descriptions are the more useful parts to everyone, but if you did want to do something for OD&D, at least these could be used for comparison. It still humours my how much the players get into the process of buying a horse; you'd think they *were* buying magic items!
Goldrak

04-27-05, 07:12 PM		Hi!

Again, great work here!!!
Can you post links to the various horse breeds by nation?
It would be of great help to those who want to use these breeds to have them separated by nation.

:)
Hugin

04-28-05, 12:33 AM		The following list shows where horses are commonly found by nation. A horse listed as common is a dominate breed in that nation and sells for roughly the prices listed in their descriptions. Uncommon horses are found in these nations, but are fewer and generally anywhere from 20% - 50% more than the listed prices. In nearly all cases, any horse may be found for sale in any nation, but may go for as much as 50% - 100% more than listed if you are able to find one. (Note this list is only a "first draft" and may change)


Norwold
Common
Rahedan
Antalian Cob

Uncommon
Stregger
Ostlandic
Wendar
Common
Rahedan
Antalian Cob

Uncommon
Stregger
Elstrick
Heldann
Common
Rahedan
Stregger
Antalian Cob

Uncommon
Kerendan
Ostlandic
Northern Reaches
Common
Rahedan
Antalian Cob
Ostlandic

Uncommon
Stregger
Ethengar
Common
Akhal-Teke
Antalian Cob
Glantri
Common
Percherval
Tilsdale
Elstrick

Uncommon
Rahedan
Kaltstein
Kerendan
Antalian Cob
Rochuin Giltirn (false)
Rockhome
Common
(Rockhome pony TBA)

Uncommon
Rahedan
Antalian Cob
Alfheim
Common
Rochuin Giltirn (false)
Ylaruam
Common
Alasiyan

Uncommon
Akhal-Teke
Darokin
Common
Kaltstein
Cayuse
Elstrick
Kerendan
Painted
Cruth

Uncommon
Percherval
Ythronner
Alasiyan
Rochuin Giltirn (false)
Atruaghin
Common
Cayuse
Painted

Uncommon
Cruth
Five Shires
Common
Cruth

Uncommon
Elstrick
Painted
Karameikos
Common
Kerendan
Ythronner
Cruth

Uncommon
Kaltstein
Elstrick
Thyatis
Common
Stregger
Kerendan

Uncommon
Kaltstein
Elstrick
Ythronner
Alasiyan
Cruth
Minrothad
Uncommon
Cayuse
Elstrick
Kerendan
Ythronner
Painted
Cruth
Ierendi
Uncommon
Kaltstein
Cayuse
Elstrick
Kerendan
Cruth
Sind
Common
Painted

Uncommon
Cayuse
Spellweaver

04-28-05, 05:29 AM		Great! A very handy list!

:-) Jesper
Goldrak

04-28-05, 06:42 AM		Thanks!!
lonewolf

04-28-05, 06:45 AM		:bow:
Any chance that we can get those horses in a printable form to download?
:rolleyes:
havard

04-28-05, 09:43 AM		:bow:
Any chance that we can get those horses in a printable form to download?
:rolleyes:

Hey, that is a brilliant idea! I'd love to see a pdf document collecting all of this information (and pictures). Sort of a Netbook of Mystaran horses.

We have way too few Netbooks for Mystara.

Håvard
Hugin

04-28-05, 05:31 PM		Hey, that is a brilliant idea! I'd love to see a pdf document collecting all of this information (and pictures). Sort of a Netbook of Mystaran horses.

We have way too few Netbooks for Mystara.

Håvard
I'd love to... if I knew how. Any pointers?

And yes, there are too few Mystaran Netbooks!

P.S. How well do the pages of the horses on the Vaults print? I haven't tried it yet and I can't seem to get into the Vaults at the moment.
stanles

04-29-05, 11:40 PM		I'd love to... if I knew how. Any pointers?

And yes, there are too few Mystaran Netbooks!

P.S. How well do the pages of the horses on the Vaults print? I haven't tried it yet and I can't seem to get into the Vaults at the moment.

you and me both for the last couple of days. Arrgghh.
havard

05-02-05, 02:06 PM		I'd love to... if I knew how. Any pointers?

And yes, there are too few Mystaran Netbooks!


You will need a program that makes pdf documents (typically from Word documents). The most common one is Adobe Acrobat Professional, though I've heard there are other programs that you can use for free that do the same thing.

Netbooks are cool because they present more material on one topic. Right now there are so many articles out there that you can get lost in them. Having lots of articles is great, but collections like NetBooks might help people navigate the material more easily :)

Håvard
Hugin

06-14-05, 12:35 AM		BOMBFAR Heavy Horse

The Dwarves of Rockhome have bred this large horse from the ancestors of the Rahedan horse
of the Heldanners for nearly a millennium. The Bombfar, which in Dwarven means “huge ruiner”,
was bred for size and strength by the dwarves for use exclusively in battle. They will not lower
their great battle horse to the humility of pulling wagons or ploughing fields; they have oxen
for such tasks. It is no small honour to be selected as a rider of one of these great horses into
battle. The breeding of this horse is carefully controlled by the Dwarves, but over the centuries,
some of these horses have found their way out of Rockhome. Whether by coincidence, or
because the dwarves are partial to the colour of earth, these horses are always brown;
various shades of brown but brown none the less. The Bombfar also has long hair covering its
hooves and long manes. They also have a distinctive white marking down the center of the face
which the dwarves refer to as the vein of silver; the larger the marking, the more desirable the
horse. These are large horses standing at 66” – 74” in height at the shoulders and
therefore the dwarves utilize a rope ladder attachment on their saddles to mount these warhorses.

Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 12 16 19 20 21
Dex 4 8 11 13 14
Con 8 13 18 19 20
Int 2 2 2 2 2
Wis 6 9 12 14 15
Cha 3 4 6 8 9

Speed 20’ 40’ 50’ 50’ 60’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 2 3 3 4 4
AC 8 11 12 14 15
Hit Dice 1d8+2(6) 2d8+5(14) 3d8+15(28) 4d8+19(37) 5d8+28(50)
Attacks -5 melee -2 melee +0 melee +2 melee +2 melee
Damage 1d6 1d6+1 1d6+2 1d6+2 1d6+2
Saves +1/-1/-2 +4/+2/-1 +7/+3/+2 +8/+5/+3 +9/+6/+3
Breed Bonus Feat: Toughness
Feat 1 Endurance
Feat 2 Run

Skill Ranks
Balance 2 2 2 3 4
Climb 1 2 2 2 2
Jump
Listen 1 1 2 2 2
Spot

Light 120 230 350 400 450
Medium 240 460 700 800 900
Heavy 360 690 1050 1200 1350
Pull 600 1150 1750 2000 2250

Price 30gp 80gp 220gp 660gp 2000gp
http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/horses/scheswigerheavydraft/schleswiger2.jpg http://www.equiworld.net/uk/horsecare/Breeds/schleswiger/vsp_4sp.jpg

The pictures show some of the uses man has for these horses, but dwarves would never allow this in Rockhome.
Spellweaver

06-25-05, 11:45 AM		Just had a read through B10: "Night's Dark Terror" and it says that the Traladarans capture and break wild horses near the moors near Kelven. The horses are described as "beautiful white horses" and are sold by the Traladarans in Riflian to the elves there, who like that type of horses.

Any comment on what race theses white horses are? I thought they might be Kerendan, but do they breed wild in Karameikos or are we talking about a rare local race of horses? Besides, Kerendans only turn white later in life, does anyone know how old a wild horse has to be before it is to old to break and train?

:-) Jesper
Hugin

06-25-05, 03:53 PM		That's cool, Spellweaver, and I've already used this IMC without even knowing about the B10 reference (I don't have it :( ). My brother has a new character that was introduced just last Tuesday. He is actually related (although through marriage) to another of his characters and was raised by Vyallia elves in eastern Karameikos as a forester. Anyway, he was given a white Kerendan horse by an elf as a young man. He's now 23 and has had the horse for around 8 years.

Back to B10, I know I'll be using the Kerendan connection IMC. It would be very plausable that over the years some horses break free and the ones that end up in the forests would be hard to find and re-capture. These could have formed wild herds in Karameikos although they would be exceptionally rare. Perhaps the terrain around The Moor, being less wooded and more hilly, makes it easier for the Traladarans to round-up some of these horses.

Of course, they could be a seperate bred unto their own, perhaps related to the Kerendans.
Valentinus

06-28-05, 08:24 PM		I'm currently running a 3e campaign in Karameikos, and wanted to find out about the "fabled Callari white horses" ( I saw this expression written somewhere, dont remember where - need a brain index). Never new about the b10 reference... I'm learning many new things today.

And the last two posts on this thread are exactly what I wanted.
From different sources, I gather that the Callari are quite accomplished horse breeders. If they have been buying wild white kerendans for all these centuries ( they are settled in central Karameikos since 800bc or so according to some sources, and since around year 0 according to others - IMC I chose the older date) then the breed should now be quite unique, as the elves probably like other qualities than the kerendans.

This is a great thread, Hugin. Two thumbs up !!
Hugin

06-29-05, 12:03 AM		I'm currently running a 3e campaign in Karameikos, and wanted to find out about the "fabled Callari white horses"
Although we have dates for the arrival of the Callari elves in Karameikos and for the arrival of the tribe of the Kerendans to the southern shores of Brun, we lack the dates of the origin of the Kerendan breed of horse. ;)

That leaves you with two options (maybe more :) ). The breed could be a relatively new breed that has only been around for a few hundred years, OR, they have had it a long time; long enough that the Callari have been able to develop their own breed from the Kerendan horse.

I'm glad you're enjoying the thread. Back a little further in this thread are the 'base stats' for each category of horse. If you wanted to, you could create a breed just for those elves. Btw, welcome to the Mystara Message Board community!
Valentinus

06-29-05, 03:48 AM		I'm glad you're enjoying the thread. Back a little further in this thread are the 'base stats' for each category of horse. If you wanted to, you could create a breed just for those elves. Btw, welcome to the Mystara Message Board community!

Well, I could create the new breed, but it's more fun when someone else does all the work :D
Gazza555

07-14-05, 10:07 AM		Hi Hugin,

Taken from 'From horse to war-horse' post

...the horse to except a rider...

I think that should be accept a rider. ;)

Why do I only spot these things after I've formatted and saved the document as a pdf? :confused: :D :heehee

Regards,
Mortis
Hugin

07-14-05, 05:57 PM		I think that should be accept a rider. ;)
I shall except your correction! :D

Why do I only spot these things after I've formatted and saved the document as a pdf? :confused: :D :heehee
Cool. I wish I could do that. I did find some free programs on the net to convert into/from pdf, but I was too scared to try any. :gah:

As it is, I'm having severe problems with my computer (I need to have it completely cleared and reformatted). Thankfully, I haven't lost my DnD files; they're all safely stored on disks but this is why all contributions to any of my little projects have halted.
radwizard

07-24-05, 12:52 PM		SomI'm currently upgrading them to 3.5 and will post them as I do them (hopefully!).



Are you also lookin' at posting the stats for 2E?
:D
Hugin

07-24-05, 05:15 PM		Are you also lookin' at posting the stats for 2E?
:D
Unfortunately, no. We went from playing OD&D directly to 3.0 (then 3.5 very soon afterwards), so I have actually never played a 2E game. You're more than welcome to convert them yourself, however.
Gazza555

07-25-05, 10:36 AM		Hugin,

Are you about done with the horse breeds? Did you intend to do any more before your computer problems. IIRC the only 'proper' horse still left is the fully fledged elven horse.

After that what do/did you intend to develop. Centaurs, pegasi, etc?

Regards,
Gary
Hugin

07-26-05, 10:23 AM		Hugin,

Are you about done with the horse breeds? Did you intend to do any more before your computer problems. IIRC the only 'proper' horse still left is the fully fledged elven horse.

After that what do/did you intend to develop. Centaurs, pegasi, etc?

Regards,
Gary
All that's left, that I had planned to do, is the true Elven horse. But that doesn't mean I'll never do another one. I'm still having problems with my computer but a friend helped out and I'm now able to access and work on my Mystara stuff, at least :) .

Centaurs and pegasi (and such) have come up before, however I don't have any plans on doing any stat work on them. If anything, I'd be more inclined to do descriptive sub-species. Time is the real limiting factor here :( .
Gazza555

07-26-05, 10:48 AM		Centaurs and pegasi (and such) have come up before, however I don't have any plans on doing any stat work on them. If anything, I'd be more inclined to do descriptive sub-species. Time is the real limiting factor here :( .
I don't think we really need stats for them anyway, but descriptive 'stuff' is always useful.

I know what you mean about time issues - I seem to spend more time actually developing ideas for campaigns than I ever do running or playing in other peoples' games. :raincloud

Regards,
Gary
Hugin

03-24-06, 10:03 PM		TRUE ROCHUIN GILTIRN Pony (Magical Beast)

“Rochuin Giltirn” is the name of the great Alfheim pony in the tongue of the elves that bred
them. It translates as “the swift horse of the Star Watcher”, referring of course to their
king of legend, King Mealiden. Shortly after the founding of Alfheim (to the elves a couple
of centuries are not all that long), this king was introduced to chevalls from the Traldar
lands to the south. The elves created a marvellous forest, but the horses that inhabited the
steppes that were once in its place were not adjusting to the new environment,
and thus their reproductive rates were falling. To help the elves with their dwindling herd
of ponies, the unicorns and chevalls began selective cross-breeding that lead to the modern
elven pony.
The True Alfheim pony is more properly classified as a magical beast, resulting from the unicorn
and chevall blood that runs through their veins. They also share a semi-telepathic
link with the elves. These are short-legged, quick, mobile and highly prized for their “intelligence”
and ability to fight on their own. The pony’s coat displays its relationship to the Akhal-Teke;
it is fine haired with some metallic golden sheen and generally coloured bay, brown, or black.
The tail of the Rochuin Giltirn is also like the Akhal-Teke, being silky but longer. Its height
is shorter than those ‘Rochuin Giltirn’ found outside Alfheim, usually ranging from 48” – 52”.

Nag Poor Normal Superior Superb
Str 8 12 14 15 16
Dex 8 12 16 18 19
Con 7 11 15 16 17
Int 2 2 3 3 4
Wis 8 12 16 18 19
Cha 6 8 12 14 18

Speed 40’ 50’ 60’ 60’ 70’
Natural Armour Bonus
. . 1 2 3 3 4
AC 10 13 16 17 18
Hit Dice 1d10-2(3) 2d10(11) 3d10+6(22) 4d10+16(38) 5d10+20(47)
Attacks -5 melee -2 melee +0 melee +1 melee +4 melee
Damage 1d4-1 1d4 1d4+1 1d4+1 1d4+1
Saves +0/+1/-1 +3/+4/+1 +5/+6/+4 +7/+8/+5 +7/+8/+5
Breed Bonus Feat: Alertness
Feat 1 Run
Feat 2 Endurance

Skill Ranks
Balance
Climb 1 1 1 1 1
Jump 1 1 2 2 3
Listen 1 1 1 1 1
Spot 1 1 1 2 2

Light 40 65 90 100 115
Medium 80 130 180 200 230
Heavy 120 200 270 300 345
Pull 600 325 450 500 575

Price These elven ponies are not found in any trading market and therefore never have prices.

Well... evidently I had forgotten to finish the "authentic elven pony" so I demanded of myself to create some time to do so. You'll notice that I actually made it a magical beast, something I felt was appropriate given it's ancestrial heritage, semi-telepathic link, and 'uncanny intelligence'. I hope people agree.

Any thoughts out there as to how their telepathic link works? I'm thinking that maybe an elf can send it basic commands mentally (any command a horse is normally eligable to learn as a 'trick'). Perhaps any pony less than normal quality (i.e. only Int 2) must be trained as per the normal rules while the others can perform them innately.
Gazza555

03-29-06, 08:09 AM		You'll notice that I actually made it a magical beast, something I felt was appropriate given it's ancestrial heritage, semi-telepathic link, and 'uncanny intelligence'. I hope people agree.
I would probably have gone for 'Fey' but 'Magical Beast' works as well. ;)

Regards
Gary