* * * Wizards Community Thread * * * -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Thread : Question about thief/scout kit Core Rules Started at 04-13-05 03:07 PM by Celedor Of Alanadel Visit at http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=413009 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 1] Author : Celedor Of Alanadel Date : 04-13-05 03:07 PM Thread Title : Question about thief/scout kit Core Rules Hello, all ! This is my first post here ! OK, recently I joined a party that still play 2nd edition core rules ( I am Dm ing 2 parties of 3.5 edition). & I decided a play an elven thief/scout. The problem I am having is the following: Does my PC have the -6 penalty on the Tracking NWP ? Just to remind you that this NWP is freely givento the scout according to the Complete Thief's Handbook , where it is also introduced this NWP as a standard thief NWP. Any ideas ? :confused: Thanks ;) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 2] Author : weasel fierce Date : 04-14-05 02:06 AM had to dig my 2nd ed books back out and check. But yes, there is a -6 penalty to the test, unless you are a ranger. The thief book makes no change to that. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 3] Author : Celedor Of Alanadel Date : 04-14-05 07:43 AM Rgr that, but according to TSR Core Rules CD-rom, the -6 penalty does not apply... This is why I got confused ! :confused: The logical thing to do is to apply this penalty ! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 4] Author : weasel fierce Date : 04-14-05 02:31 PM In the thief book, it just refers to the players handbook description. So it would apply. That being said, for a scout type, I'd ignore it, or just reduce it to -2 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 5] Author : Celedor Of Alanadel Date : 04-15-05 02:44 AM Well, silly me ! Sometimes things aren't that complicated as they seem to be ! In Complete Thief's Handbook, NWP Chapter, under the description for the Tracking NWP it states the following: Tracking 2 slots, Wisdom, 0 modifier I showed this to my Dm in yesterdays session and he accepted it ( not so cheerfully though) :D So, no -6 penalty by the book ! ;) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 6] Author : weasel fierce Date : 04-15-05 02:56 AM Actually, the NWP list in the players handbook doesnt list the -6 either... its only in the description of it. Though doing away with it is fine. I'd rather give rangers a bonus anyways -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Downloaded from Wizards Community (http://forums.gleemax.com) at 05-10-08 08:15 AM.