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Thread : First Edition Dungeons & Dragons
Started at 07-08-05 12:25 AM by Wildonion
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[Post 1]
Author : Wildonion
Date : 07-08-05 12:25 AM
Thread Title : First Edition Dungeons & Dragons

Alright I know this might get me a few strange looks but can anyone point me in the direction of a download or a copy of the First Edition rule book? (Or whatever edition the Blue and Red box sets belong to.)

Thanks  :D

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[Post 2]
Author : Solaris
Date : 07-08-05 12:36 AM

http://www.rpgnow.com has the Mentzer Basic and Expert sets.

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[Post 3]
Author : Wildonion
Date : 07-08-05 12:50 AM

Thanks

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[Post 4]
Author : weasel fierce
Date : 07-08-05 01:24 AM

Mentzers sets are not the 1st edition of anything.

The red/blue sets are the 3rd edition (Moldvay) or 4th edition (Mentzer) of the basic Dungeons & Dragons rules.

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[Post 5]
Author : Solaris
Date : 07-08-05 02:12 AM

I'd have said the Moldvay Basic set was more of a purple...

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[Post 6]
Author : Wildonion
Date : 07-08-05 03:17 AM

Is there a way to tell the difference between 3rd and 4th edition boxes?

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[Post 7]
Author : Solaris
Date : 07-08-05 03:18 AM

http://acaeum.com/DDIndexes/SetPages/Basic.html

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[Post 8]
Author : Fzoul_Chembryl
Date : 07-08-05 11:01 AM

coughHackmaster! (http://www.kenzerco.com/)cough

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[Post 9]
Author : Wildonion
Date : 07-08-05 11:48 AM

Thanks all. I now know what to look for. We have a shop called Black & Read (Red) and it sells the old editions, I wasn't sure which books I needed. So is there a difference between the first and second edition rules and are the rulebooks for 1E like the rules from the two box sets? (My players like the simplicity of the game and we play when we are short of time or are bored of 3.5)

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[Post 10]
Author : Wildonion
Date : 07-08-05 12:10 PM

About hackmaster, how easy is it to learn? Is it similar to D&D? And where (besides Amazon and Ebay) could I find the two books?

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[Post 11]
Author : weasel fierce
Date : 07-08-05 01:45 PM

Hackmaster is rather complicated.

The "1st edition" you are referring to, is the Basic/Expert D&D game, which is exceptionally easy, and straightforward. Its often referred to as the simplest and clearest incarnation of D&D.

There is also AD&D1st edition, which is a mighty fine game, but more complex, and some of the rules are rather muddled. Its worth figuring out though, and the books are usually cheap. Typically 5-10 dollars a pop on ebay or amazon

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[Post 12]
Author : Elendur
Date : 07-08-05 02:04 PM

Hackmaster seemed to masocistically add to the number of ad hoc rules and tables that AD&D had.  (Perhaps as part of their 'parody' focus?)
I'd stick to the basic set,  adding on later sets if the campaign expands.

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[Post 13]
Author : Wildonion
Date : 07-10-05 03:58 PM

I looked at the Hackmaster Player's Handbook at a game store that I went to and it looks really similar to AD&D. My friends and I have talked about and we are really thinking of getting it. Also how many box sets are there? I know there are the Basic and expert sets and a third one that comes after that (For levels 11 to 20 I believe) but how many are there total?

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[Post 14]
Author : weasel fierce
Date : 07-11-05 01:33 AM

The classic D&D game is:

Basic set (levels 1-3)

Expert (4-14)

Companion (15-25, and also introduces Druids, paladins, knights and avengers. Early prestige class sort of things)

Master (26-35, and has stuff on becoming an immortal)


You may want to skip those, and get the Rules Cyclopedia. It has all of the above, some extra stuff (Mystics), and a ton of options and extra rules (weapons mastery and whatnot) Even AD&D crossover rules

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[Post 15]
Author : Wildonion
Date : 07-12-05 02:04 AM

Thanks, I will look for the cyclopedia but if I can't find it I will remember the other two boxes.  :)

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