* * * Wizards Community Thread * * * -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Thread : AD&D question plz help Started at 09-20-05 08:48 AM by ypexode Visit at http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=505552 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 1] Author : ypexode Date : 09-20-05 08:48 AM Thread Title : AD&D question plz help I am DMing a second edition campaign.I realy like to learn about a minor mistake made on the priest spell "feign death".Back then, TSR, had released the marvelous spell compendiums.In the spell that i am referring they put as a saving throw the number " 1/2 ".That doesnt make any sense at all.Also there is nothing placed in the component section.The wizard version of the spell has a casting time and verbal component.Please i would like an O F F I C I A L answer if there is possible.And another question:Is fourth edition going to be published in the future and when? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 2] Author : Escef Date : 09-20-05 03:21 PM My 2e PHBs went AWOL a couple years ago when I moved, so I can't help with that. As for fourth edition, WotC is not even entertaining the idea right now. There was a humongous backlash against 3.5 because of how soon after 3e it was released. WotC is too smart to risk that again. I wouldn't expect anything concerning a 4e until '08 at the earliest. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 3] Author : SamualT Barronsword Date : 09-20-05 05:56 PM I am DMing a second edition campaign.I realy like to learn about a minor mistake made on the priest spell "feign death".Back then, TSR, had released the marvelous spell compendiums.In the spell that i am referring they put as a saving throw the number " 1/2 ".That doesnt make any sense at all.Also there is nothing placed in the component section.The wizard version of the spell has a casting time and verbal component.Please i would like an O F F I C I A L answer if there is possible.And another question:Is fourth edition going to be published in the future and when? The preist's spell Feign Death is in the 2E PHB. Its saving throw is listed as None, but it can only be cast on willing creatures. Its casting time is listed as 1/2, which I guess means it can be cast in less than a single segment if the optional casting time rules are used. According to the PHB the priest version of this spell also has a verbal component. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 4] Author : yeknom Date : 09-20-05 07:17 PM I am DMing a second edition campaign.I realy like to learn about a minor mistake made on the priest spell "feign death".Back then, TSR, had released the marvelous spell compendiums.In the spell that i am referring they put as a saving throw the number " 1/2 ".That doesnt make any sense at all.Also there is nothing placed in the component section.The wizard version of the spell has a casting time and verbal component.Please i would like an O F F I C I A L answer if there is possible.And another question:Is fourth edition going to be published in the future and when? Here is the wizard version (taken from the RTF of the 2e PHB that in the core rules expansion): Feign Death (Necromancy) Range: Touch Components: V, S Duration: 1 hr. + 1 turn/level Casting Time: 1 Area of Effect: Creature touched Saving Throw: None By means of this spell, the caster (or any other creature whose levels of experience or Hit Dice do not exceed the wizard's own level) can be put into a cataleptic state that is impossible to distinguish from death. Although the person or creature affected by the feign death spell can smell, hear, and know what is going on, no feeling or sight of any sort is possible. Thus, any wounding or mistreatment of the body is not felt and no reaction occurs; damage is only half normal. In addition, paralysis, poison, and energy-level drain cannot affect an individual under the influence of this spell. Poison injected or otherwise introduced into the body takes effect when the spell recipient is no longer under the influence of this spell, although a saving throw is permitted. Note that only a willing individual can be affected by a feign death spell. The spellcaster can end the spell effects at any time desired, as will a successful dispel, but a full round is required for bodily functions to begin again. Here is the Priest version taken from the same source: Feign Death (Necromancy) Sphere: Necromantic Range: Touch Components: V Duration: 1 turn + 1 rd./level Casting Time: 1/2 Area of Effect: Person touched Saving Throw: None By means of this spell, the caster or any other willing person can be put into a cataleptic state that is impossible to distinguish from actual death. Although the person affected can smell, hear, and know what is going on, no feeling or sight of any sort is possible; thus, any wounding or mistreatment of the body is not felt, no reaction occurs, and damage is only one-half normal. In addition, paralysis, poison, or energy level drain does not affect a person under the influence of this spell, but poison injected or otherwise introduced into the body becomes effective when the spell recipient is no longer under the influence of this spell, although a saving throw is permitted. However, the spell offers no protection from causes of certain death--being crushed under a landslide, etc. Only a willing individual can be affected by a feign death spell. The priest is able to end the spell effect at any time, but it requires a full round for bodily functions to begin again. Note that, unlike the wizard version of this spell, only people can be affected, and that those of any level can be affected by the priest casting this spell. I assume that the 1/2 is a reference to the 1e version of the spell because in first edition 'segments' were used. A spell with a casting time of 1/2 would have been extremely fast in 1e. That was probably just an error that managed to find its way into the PHB. As for an official word, I don't think you will get one, since 2e isn't supported by WoTC. 4th edition may or may not be coming out soon, I don't know and don't really care. When 4e is published, I will purchase a copy of the rules and make my judgement on the game system then. That's what I did for 2e, 3e and 3.5e. I considered 1e a different game from 2e and 3e a different game from 2e and I will probably consider 4e a different game from 3e. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 5] Author : ypexode Date : 09-22-05 08:07 AM Thanks lads for the help!Keep roleplaying!! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 6] Author : Extempus Date : 03-18-06 04:05 AM I think the casting time of ½ is a typo or misprint; I don't recall seeing one like it other than feather fall, which is 1/10th of a segment or 0.6 seconds. In 1e, feign death has a listed casting time of 2 segments or 12 seconds. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Downloaded from Wizards Community (http://forums.gleemax.com) at 05-10-08 08:16 AM.