* * * Wizards Community Thread * * * -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Thread : Good Gods There were a lot of wizard types in 2e Started at 08-08-06 02:46 PM by khyron1144 Visit at http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=682417 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 1] Author : khyron1144 Date : 08-08-06 02:46 PM Thread Title : There were a lot of wizard types in 2e (partial list and index) I just had to say that. If my math is right: there was the generalist mage and eight types of specialist in the PHB for a total of nine. Tome of Magic introduced Wild Mages and four elemental-specialists. That's five more, which brings the grand total up to 14. Player's Option: Skills & Powers introduced at least four theme-schooled specialists: Alchemists, Geometers, Shadow Wizards, and Song Wizards. And then there's kits, som of which are almost as big a revision as a different class, like Shi'ars from Al-Qadim. No real point, just thought I'd mention it. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 2] Author : khyron1144 Date : 08-31-06 04:45 PM Thread Title : Start of List/index This is not complete because I don't own every 2e book there ever was and don't have easy access to some I do own. The list is broken down into three sections: classes, kits, and other stuff. Entry format is Name (nicknames or other pertinent notes) (source). Player's Handbook is abbreviated PHB throughout. Classes: Mage (also known as generalist wizard) (PHB) Abjurer (PHB) Conjurer (PHB) Enchanter (PHB) Invoker (PHB) Diviner (PHB) Necromancer (PHB) Transmuter (Alteration specialist beacause Alterer doesn't sound right) (PHB) Wild Mage (Tome of Magic) Air Elemenalist (Tome of Magic) Earth Elementalist (Tome of Magic) Fire Elementalist (Tome of Magic) Water Elementalist (Tome of Magic) Dimensionalist (Dragon #229 and Player's Option: Spells and Magic) Frost Wizard (cold elementalist) (Dragon #229) Alchemist (Player's Option: Skills and Powers and Player's Option: Spells and Magic) Shadow Wizard (Player's Option: Skills and Powers and Player's Option: Spells and Magic) Geometer (Player's Option: Skills and Powers and Player's Option: Spells and Magic) Song Wizard (Player's Option: Skills and Powers and Player's Option: Spells and Magic) Wu-jen (Dragon #229) Artificer (Player's Option: Spells and Magic) Force Wizard (Player's Option: Spells and Magic) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 3] Author : khyron1144 Date : 08-31-06 05:02 PM Thread Title : List/Index Part 2 I am tackling the Other Stuff section next because it's the shortest on my current list. In this section, like the kits section that will follow items on the list are listed if they can be taken/used only by Wizards. For instance: Factions in Planescape fall under the other stuff category as far as I'm concerned, but even though Wizards can be Dust Men, Dust Men aren't listed because classes other than Wizard can also be Dust Men. The format is a little different because this is the etc. section of the list. Entries will be something like: Name (what it is and other pertinent notes) (source) Other Stuff: The Secret Craft of Alchemy (Mystara setting Secret Craft) (Glantri Kingdom of Magic) The Secret Craft of Cryptomancy (Mystara setting Secret Craft) (Glantri Kingdom of Magic) The Secret Craft of Dracology (Mystara setting Secret Craft) (Glantri Kingdom of Magic) The Secret Craft of Dream Magic (Mystara setting Secret Craft) (Glantri Kingdom of Magic) The secret Craft of Elementalism (Mystara setting Secret Craft) (Glantri Kingdom of Magic) The Secret Craft of Necromancy (Mystara setting Secret Craft) (Glantri Kingdom of Magic) The Secret Craft of Wokanism (Mystara setting Secret Craft) (Glantri Kingdom of Magic) The Brotherhood of the True Flame (Sha'ir's Handbook) The Constellation (Sha'ir's Handbook) The Cult of Sand (Sha'ir's Handbook) The Hands of Badiat abd Ala'i (Sha'ir's Handbook) The Mechanicians League (Sha'ir's Handbook) The Red Eyes (Sha'ir's Handbook) The Sea's Children (Sha'ir's Handbook) The Servitors of the Zephyr (Sha'ir's Handbook) The Society of Shifting Sands (Sha'ir's Handbook) The Spellslayers (Sha'ir's Handbook) The Viziers (Sha'ir's Handbook) The Brotherhood of Alchemy (Wizardly organization) (The Complete Wizard's Handbook) Legal Defense Front (Wizardly organization) (The Complete Wizard's Handbook) The Silver Swan Club (Wizardly organization) (The Complete Wizard's Handbook) Wizards' Liberation Society (Wizardly organization) (The Complete Wizard's Handbook) Foes of the Wand (Wizardly organization) (The Complete Wizard's Handbook) Diviners Syndicate (Wizardly organization) (The Complete Wizard's Handbook) Center For Monster Control (Wizardly organization) (The Complete Wizard's Handbook) League of Extraplanar Travelers (Wizardly organization) (The Complete Wizard's Handbook) Fellowship of Sages (Wizardly organization) (The Complete Wizard's Handbook) Society of the Serpent (Greyhawk setting secret society) (Dragon #256) Wizards of the Black Teddy (Planescape Faction; it is from an April issue of Dragon; consider yourself warned) (Dragon #216) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 4] Author : khyron1144 Date : 09-05-06 02:32 PM Thread Title : List Part Three And here's where we start with the kits. This could be the longest section. Right now, I don't have acess to my Complete Wizard's Handbook or Complete Book of Elves or any of my Al Qadim stuff, so it's a bit shorter than I'd like right now. Kits: Rhabdomancer (Dragon #229) Fiend Slayer (Dragon #229) Spiritualist (Dragon #229) Shadow Caller (Dragon #261) Shadow Seeker (Dragon #261) Shadow Hunter (Dragon #261) Baule Diviner (Dragon #200) Bokor (Dragon #200) Houngan (Dragon #200) Mambo (Dragon #200) Zande Witch Woman (Dragon #200) Sheen Chaser (Dragon #258) Machine Mage (Dragon #258) Merlane (Dragon #237) Swami (Dragon #225) Runemaster (Dragon #257) Spellarcher (Half-elf Fighter/Wizard kit) (Dragon #214) Aristocrat (Half-elf Fighter/Wizard kit) (Dragon #214) Arcanist (Half-elf Cleric/Wizard kit) (Dragon #214) Guildmage (Half-elf Thief/Wizard kit) (Dragon #214) Prestidigitator (Half-elf Thief/ Wizard kit) (Dragon #214) Redeemer (Half-elf Fighter/ Wizard/ Ceric kit) (Dragon #214) Diletante (Half-elf Fighter/ Wizard/ Thief kit) (Dragon #214) Diplomat (Half-elf Fighter/ Wizard/ Thief kit) (Dragon #214) Image Maker (gnomish Illusionist kit) (The Complete Book of Gnomes and Halflings) Vanisher (gnomish Illusionist kit) (The Complete Book of Gnomes and Halflings) Buffoon (gnomish Thief/Illusionist kit) (The Complete Book of Gnomes and Halflings) Hedge Wizard (The Complete Book of Humanoids) Humanoid Scholar (The Complete Book of Humanoids) Outlaw Mage (The Complete Book of Humanoids) Jackal (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Mageweaver (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Astrologer (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Digitalogist (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Clockwork Mage (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Ghul Lord (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Mystic of Nog (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Unseen (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Spellslayer (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Sorcerer (Arabian Adventures) Elemental Mage (Arabian Adventures) Sha'ir (Arabian Adventures) Ajami Wizard (Arabian Adventures) Mystic (Complete Wizard's Handbook and Red Steel boxed set) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 5] Author : Agathokles Date : 09-06-06 07:08 AM Some other wizard kits: Mystic (Savage Coast, which also has several kits that apply to wizards while not being wizard-only) Militant (Savage Coast) Wokan (Savage Coast) Jackal (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Mageweaver (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Astrologer (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Digitalogist (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Clockwork Mage (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Ghul Lord (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Mystic of Nog (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Unseen (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Spellslayer (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Sorcerer (Arabian Adventures) Elemental Mage (Arabian Adventures) Sha'ir (Arabian Adventures) Ajami Wizard (Arabian Adventures) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 6] Author : khyron1144 Date : 09-12-06 07:24 PM Thread Title : Re: Good Gods There were a lot of wizard types in 2e Thanks for the tip. I remember the Mystic kit as also bieng in The Complete Wizard's Handbook, so it's listing in my newly ammended list will reflect that. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 7] Author : Agathokles Date : 09-13-06 07:29 AM Thread Title : Re: Good Gods There were a lot of wizard types in 2e Thanks for the tip. I remember the Mystic kit as also bieng in The Complete Wizard's Handbook, so it's listing in my newly ammended list will reflect that. You're welcome. The Savage Coast kit are adaptations of the Complete series kits, so it's not surprising that in some cases they share the same name. In other cases, the kits were merged into multiple class kits -- e.g., Patrician (IIRC from the CWH) and the Noble Fighter (CFH) were merged into the Noble (for any class). Other kits accessible to wizards were the Swashbuckler, Spy, Local Hero and Inheritor. The Savage was also adapted in the Orc's Head supplement (for Wizards and Psionicists). The Militant, Mystic, Anagakok, Amazon Sorceress, Academician, Patrician, Peasant, Savage, Witch and Wu Jen appear in the CWH. Note that the Militant and Mystic from Red Steel/Savage Coast are slightly different in powers and hindrances from the CWH versions. The Complete Book of Necromancers includes the Archetypal Necromancer, the Anatomist, the Deathslayer, the Philosopher and the Undead Master kits. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 8] Author : khyron1144 Date : 09-16-06 03:51 PM Thread Title : Re: Good Gods There were a lot of wizard types in 2e Thanks. I'll make sure to add those in, but my time is limited today, so I'll have to get to it later. If anyone else is looking at this thread, information on issues of Dragon that contain Wizard kits would be apreciated. I have a lot of 2e era issues, but my collection is kind of random and haphazard with a lot of gaps. Also info on less obvious sourcebooks. I know the Complete Wizard's Handbook and Complete Necromancer's Handbook have Wizard kits, but beyond that I don't know what else to look for or at. For instance, the green-covered historical reference series contains kits, but the two that I have: Age of Heroes and Charlemagne's Paladins don't have kits for Wizards. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 9] Author : Agathokles Date : 09-17-06 05:03 AM Thread Title : Re: Good Gods There were a lot of wizard types in 2e Also info on less obvious sourcebooks. I know the Complete Wizard's Handbook and Complete Necromancer's Handbook have Wizard kits, but beyond that I don't know what else to look for or at. For instance, the green-covered historical reference series contains kits, but the two that I have: Age of Heroes and Charlemagne's Paladins don't have kits for Wizards. Here are a few: The Complete Book of Elves (several multiclass wizard kits) The Book of Magecraft (some Birthright wizard and magician kits; the Birthright Campaign Setting introduces the Magician class) Wizards & Rogues of the Realms (one wizard class and several kits, though all for the FR setting) Domains of Dread (a new wizard class, the Arcanist) Champions of the Mists (kits: Eremite and Spiritualist) Glantri: Kingdom of Magic (should have some wizard kits, but I don't have this book) Karameikos: Kingdom of Adventure (one or two wizard kits, can't remember right now) Dark Sun Campaign Setting expanded & revised (has two variant wizard classes: Preserver and Defiler) The Elves of Athas (Arcanist kit) Defilers & Preservers: the Wizards of Athas has the following kits (P=Preserver only, D=Defiler only) Cerulean Necromancer Shadow Mage Illusionist Restorationist (P) Earth Defender (P) Exterminator (D) Mercenary Advanced Being Chasseur Arena Mage Tribal Wizard The following wizard kits for Dark Sun are found in Dragon Magazine: Gray Chasseur (DM231, Preserver) Obscure (DM231, Shadow Wizard variant) Pale (DM231, Defiler Necromancer variant) Protector (DM231, Elf Preserver) Relic Seeker (DM231) Slayer (DM231, Defiler) Arcanamach (Slave Hunters and Silt Sailors, Defiler) Veiled One (Slave Hunters and Silt Sailors, Preserver) Finally, Dragon Kings introduces two "advanced being " classes (akin to 3e prestige classes), the Dragon (requirements: dual class Defiler 20/Psionicist 20) and the Avangion (requirements: dual class Preserver 20/Psionicist 20). -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 10] Author : demonsinmyhead Date : 09-17-06 10:35 AM Thread Title : Re: Good Gods There were a lot of wizard types in 2e le sigh....i miss good ol wild magic....not this prestige class crap... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 11] Author : Agathokles Date : 09-22-06 06:52 AM Thread Title : Re: Good Gods There were a lot of wizard types in 2e Some more info: Book of Magecraft (kits for the Magician class, a double specialist diviner/illusionist with no access to high level spells of other schools, originally introduced in the Birthright Campaign Setting): Court magician (magician illusionist kit) Disguiser (magician illusionist kit) Illuminator (magician illusionist kit) Bloodline hound (magician diviner kit) Crystal gazer (magician diviner kit) Oracle (magician diviner kit) Visionary (magician diviner kit) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 12] Author : Agathokles Date : 09-22-06 07:02 AM Thread Title : Re: Good Gods There were a lot of wizard types in 2e If anyone else is looking at this thread, information on issues of Dragon that contain Wizard kits would be apreciated. I have a lot of 2e era issues, but my collection is kind of random and haphazard with a lot of gaps. Here is a list of articles that contain kits: http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/adnd/dragon/bytopic.html#KIT It looks like the current list is almost complete, at least for kits from Dragon Magazine. And here is a list of articles containing wizard classes, kits or new spells: http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/adnd/dragon/bytopic.html#CMG -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 13] Author : Thrin Date : 09-25-06 01:58 PM Thread Title : Re: Good Gods There were a lot of wizard types in 2e I'll add that the 2e reference "Guide to Hell" has several devil-fighting kits, including one for wizards: the Thaumaturgist. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 14] Author : Agathokles Date : 10-04-06 05:22 AM Thread Title : Re: Good Gods There were a lot of wizard types in 2e Some more kits: Planewalker Wizard (Planewalker's Handbook) Spiritualist (Champions of the Mists) Eremite (Champions of the Mists) Mystaran Wizard (Karameikos: Kingdom of Adventure) Karameikan College Mage (Karameikos: Kingdom of Adventure) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 15] Author : realmaster Date : 10-05-06 12:54 AM Thread Title : Re: Good Gods There were a lot of wizard types in 2e Man I love kits. :D -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 16] Author : Agathokles Date : 10-05-06 03:23 AM Thread Title : Updated and alphabetically sorted list of AD&D 2e wizard classes Abjurer (PHB) Air Elemenalist (Tome of Magic) Alchemist (Player's Option: Skills and Powers and Player's Option: Spells and Magic) Apothecary (Sages & Specialists, NPC only) Arcanist (Domains of Dread) Artificer (Player's Option: Spells and Magic) Chronomancer (Chronomancer) Conjurer (PHB) Defiler (Dark Sun Campaign Setting) Dimensionalist (Dragon #229 and Player's Option: Spells and Magic) Diviner (PHB) Earth Elementalist (Tome of Magic) Enchanter (PHB) Fire Elementalist (Tome of Magic) Force Wizard (Player's Option: Spells and Magic) Frost Wizard (cold elementalist) (Dragon #229) Geometer (Player's Option: Skills and Powers and Player's Option: Spells and Magic) Invoker (PHB) Mage (also known as generalist wizard) (PHB) Magician (Birthright Campaign Setting) Necromancer (PHB) Preserver (Dark Sun Campaign Setting) Runecaster (Giantcraft) Seer (Sages & Specialists, NPC only, has also priestly spells) Shadow Wizard (Player's Option: Skills and Powers and Player's Option: Spells and Magic) Song Wizard (Player's Option: Skills and Powers and Player's Option: Spells and Magic) Spellsinger (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Transmuter (Alteration specialist beacause Alterer doesn't sound right) (PHB) Water Elementalist (Tome of Magic) Wild Mage (Tome of Magic) Wizard of the White Robes (Tales of the Lance) Wizard of the Red Robes (Tales of the Lance) Wizard of the Black Robes (Tales of the Lance) Wu-jen (Dragon #229) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 17] Author : Agathokles Date : 10-05-06 03:47 AM Thread Title : Updated and alphabetically sorted list of AD&D 2e wizard kits Academician (Complete Wizard's Handbook) Advanced Being (Defilers & Preservers: The Wizards of Athas) Ajami Wizard (Arabian Adventures) Amazon Sorceress (Complete Wizard's Handbook) Anagakok (Complete Wizard's Handbook) Anatomist (Complete Book of Necromancers) Arcanamach (Slave Hunters and Silt Sailors, Defiler) Arcanist (Half-elf Cleric/Wizard kit) (Dragon #214) Arcanist (Complete Spacefarer Handbook) Arcanist (The Elves of Athas) Archetypal Necromancer (Complete Book of Necromancers) Arena Mage (Defilers & Preservers: The Wizards of Athas) Aristocrat (Half-elf Fighter/Wizard kit) (Dragon #214) Artificer (Charonti enchanter kit) (Jakandor, isle of Destiny) Astrologer (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Astronomer (The Complete Spacefarer's Handbook) Baule Diviner (Dragon #200) Bladesinger (Elf Fighter/Thief, Complete Book of Elves) Bloodline hound (Book of Magecraft, magician diviner kit) Bokor (Dragon #200) Buffoon (gnomish Thief/Illusionist kit) (The Complete Book of Gnomes and Halflings) Cerulean (Defilers & Preservers: The Wizards of Athas) Chasseur (Defilers & Preservers: The Wizards of Athas) Clockwork Mage (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Collector (Elf Fighter/Mage/Thief, Complete Book of Elves) Court magician (Book of Magecraft, magician illusionist kit) Crystal gazer (Book of Magecraft, magician diviner kit) Deathslayer (Complete Book of Necromancers) Digitalogist (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Dilettante (Charonti mage kit) (Jakandor, isle of Destiny) Dilettante (Half-elf Fighter/ Wizard/ Thief kit) (Dragon #214) Diplomat (Half-elf Fighter/ Wizard/ Thief kit) (Dragon #214) Disguiser (Book of Magecraft, magician illusionist kit) Dragon Lord (open to priests as well as wizards, Dragon Slayers, DM205) Dragon Slayer (Council of Wyrms) Earth Defender (Defilers & Preservers: The Wizards of Athas, Preserver) Elemental Mage (Arabian Adventures) Elven Minstrel (Elf Mage/Thief, Complete Book of Elves) Eremite (Champions of the Mists) Exterminator (Defilers & Preservers: The Wizards of Athas, Defiler) Fiend Slayer (Dragon #229) Finder (Charonti diviner kit) (Jakandor, isle of Destiny) Floating Sorcerer (Planewalker's Handbook) Galvanist (Charonti invoker kit) (Jakandor, isle of Destiny) Geomancer (Complete Spacefarer Handbook) Ghul Lord (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Glantrian Mage (Glantri: Kingdom of Magic) Gray Chasseur (Dragon #231, Preserver) Guildmage (Half-elf Thief/Wizard kit) (Dragon #214) Hedge Wizard (The Complete Book of Humanoids) Houngan (Dragon #200) Humanoid Scholar (The Complete Book of Humanoids) Illuminator (Book of Magecraft, magician illusionist kit) Illusionist (Defilers & Preservers: The Wizards of Athas) Image Maker (gnomish Illusionist kit) (The Complete Book of Gnomes and Halflings) Imposter (The Complete Spacefarer's Handbook) Infiltrator (Elf Fighter/Mage/Thief, Complete Book of Elves) Inheritor (kit open to may classes, wizards too) (Red Steel) Jackal (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Karameikan College Mage (Karameikos: Kingdom of Adventure) Machine Mage (Dragon #258) Mageweaver (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Mambo (Dragon #200) Mercenary (Defilers & Preservers: The Wizards of Athas) Merlane (Dragon #237) Militant (Complete Wizard's Handbook and Savage Coast Campaign Book) Mystaran Wizard (Karameikos: Kingdom of Adventure) Mystic of Nog (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Mystic (Complete Wizard's Handbook and Savage Coast Campaign Book) Necromancer (Defilers & Preservers: The Wizards of Athas) Obscure (Dragon #231, Shadow Wizard variant) Oracle (Book of Magecraft, magician diviner kit) Outlaw Mage (The Complete Book of Humanoids) Pale (Dragon #231, Defiler Necromancer variant) Patrician (Complete Wizard's Handbook) Peasant (Complete Wizard's Handbook) Philosopher (Complete Book of Necromancers) Planewalker Wizard (Planewalker's Handbook) Porter (Charonti transmuter kit) (Jakandor, isle of Destiny) Prestidigitator (Half-elf Thief/ Wizard kit) (Dragon #214) Protector (Dragon #231, Elf Preserver) Redeemer (Half-elf Fighter/ Wizard/ Ceric kit) (Dragon #214) Relic Seeker (Dragon #231) Render (Charonti necromancer kit) (Jakandor, isle of Destiny) Restorationist (Defilers & Preservers: The Wizards of Athas, Preserver) Rhabdomancer (Dragon #229) Runemaster (Dragon #257) Sandman (Charonti illusionist kit) (Jakandor, isle of Destiny) Savage (Complete Wizard's Handbook) Savage Wizard and Psionicist (Wallara, Phanaton and Lizard kin mage kit) (Orc's Head) Seer (Knorrman mage kit) (Jakandor, Island of War) Shadow Caller (Dragon #261) Shadow Hunter (Dragon #261) Shadow mage (Charonti conjurer kit) (Jakandor, isle of Destiny) Shadow Mage (Defilers & Preservers: The Wizards of Athas) Shadow Seeker (Dragon #261) Sha'ir (Arabian Adventures) Sheen Chaser (Dragon #258) Slayer (Dragon #231, Defiler) Sorcerer (Arabian Adventures) Spellarcher (Half-elf Fighter/Wizard kit) (Dragon #214) Spellfilcher (Elf Mage/Thief, Complete Book of Elves) Spellslayer (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Spiritualist (Dragon #229) Spiritualist (Champions of the Mists) Swami (Dragon #225) Swashbuckler (kit open to may classes, wizards too) (Red Steel) Thaumathurgist (A Guide to Hell) Tribal Wizard (Defilers & Preservers: The Wizards of Athas) Undead Master (Complete Book of Necromancers) Unseen (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Vanisher (gnomish Illusionist kit) (The Complete Book of Gnomes and Halflings) Veiled One (Slave Hunters and Silt Sailors, Preserver) Visionary (Book of Magecraft, magician diviner kit) Warden (Charonti abjurer kit) (Jakandor, isle of Destiny) War Mage (The Complete Spacefarer's Handbook) War Wizard (Elf Fighter/Thief, Complete Book of Elves) Witch (Complete Wizard's Handbook) Wizards of Cormyr (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of Halruaa (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of Sembia (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Cold Lands (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Dales (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Dragon Coast (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Elven Wood (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Empires of the Sands (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Island Kingdoms (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Moonsea Region (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Old Empires (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Savage North (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Unapproachable East (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Vast (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Vilhon Reach (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Western Heartlands (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of Waterdeep (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wokan (Red Steel and Savage Coast Campaign Book) Wu Jen (Complete Wizard's Handbook) Zande Witch Woman (Dragon #200) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 18] Author : Agathokles Date : 10-18-06 03:46 AM Thread Title : Re: Updated and alphabetically sorted list of AD&D 2e wizard kits Update: Floating Sorcerer kit from Planewalker's Handbook -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 19] Author : Arcanda Date : 10-18-06 12:41 PM Thread Title : Re: Updated and alphabetically sorted list of AD&D 2e wizard kits Academician (Complete Wizard's Handbook) Advanced Being (Defilers & Preservers: The Wizards of Athas) Ajami Wizard (Arabian Adventures) Amazon Sorceress (Complete Wizard's Handbook) Anagakok (Complete Wizard's Handbook) Anatomist (Complete Book of Necromancers) Arcanamach (Slave Hunters and Silt Sailors, Defiler) Arcanist (Half-elf Cleric/Wizard kit) (Dragon #214) Arcanist (The Elves of Athas) Archetypal Necromancer (Complete Book of Necromancers) Arena Mage (Defilers & Preservers: The Wizards of Athas) Aristocrat (Half-elf Fighter/Wizard kit) (Dragon #214) Astrologer (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Baule Diviner (Dragon #200) Bladesinger (Elf Fighter/Thief, Complete Book of Elves) Bloodline hound (Book of Magecraft, magician diviner kit) Bokor (Dragon #200) Buffoon (gnomish Thief/Illusionist kit) (The Complete Book of Gnomes and Halflings) Cerulean (Defilers & Preservers: The Wizards of Athas) Chasseur (Defilers & Preservers: The Wizards of Athas) Clockwork Mage (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Collector (Elf Fighter/Mage/Thief, Complete Book of Elves) Court magician (Book of Magecraft, magician illusionist kit) Crystal gazer (Book of Magecraft, magician diviner kit) Deathslayer (Complete Book of Necromancers) Digitalogist (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Diletante (Half-elf Fighter/ Wizard/ Thief kit) (Dragon #214) Diplomat (Half-elf Fighter/ Wizard/ Thief kit) (Dragon #214) Disguiser (Book of Magecraft, magician illusionist kit) Earth Defender (Defilers & Preservers: The Wizards of Athas, Preserver) Elemental Mage (Arabian Adventures) Elven Minstrel (Elf Mage/Thief, Complete Book of Elves) Eremite (Champions of the Mists) Exterminator (Defilers & Preservers: The Wizards of Athas, Defiler) Fiend Slayer (Dragon #229) Floating Sorcerer (Planewalker's Handbook) Ghul Lord (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Gray Chasseur (Dragon #231, Preserver) Guildmage (Half-elf Thief/Wizard kit) (Dragon #214) Hedge Wizard (The Complete Book of Humanoids) Houngan (Dragon #200) Humanoid Scholar (The Complete Book of Humanoids) Illuminator (Book of Magecraft, magician illusionist kit) Illusionist (Defilers & Preservers: The Wizards of Athas) Image Maker (gnomish Illusionist kit) (The Complete Book of Gnomes and Halflings) Infiltrator (Elf Fighter/Mage/Thief, Complete Book of Elves) Jackal (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Karameikan College Mage (Karameikos: Kingdom of Adventure) Machine Mage (Dragon #258) Mageweaver (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Mambo (Dragon #200) Mercenary (Defilers & Preservers: The Wizards of Athas) Merlane (Dragon #237) Militant (Complete Wizard's Handbook and Savage Coast Campaign Book) Mystaran Wizard (Karameikos: Kingdom of Adventure) Mystic of Nog (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Mystic (Complete Wizard's Handbook and Savage Coast Campaign Book) Necromancer (Defilers & Preservers: The Wizards of Athas) Obscure (Dragon #231, Shadow Wizard variant) Oracle (Book of Magecraft, magician diviner kit) Outlaw Mage (The Complete Book of Humanoids) Pale (Dragon #231, Defiler Necromancer variant) Patrician (Complete Wizard's Handbook) Peasant (Complete Wizard's Handbook) Philosopher (Complete Book of Necromancers) Planewalker Wizard (Planewalker's Handbook) Prestidigitator (Half-elf Thief/ Wizard kit) (Dragon #214) Protector (Dragon #231, Elf Preserver) Redeemer (Half-elf Fighter/ Wizard/ Ceric kit) (Dragon #214) Relic Seeker (Dragon #231) Restorationist (Defilers & Preservers: The Wizards of Athas, Preserver) Rhabdomancer (Dragon #229) Runemaster (Dragon #257) Savage (Complete Wizard's Handbook) Shadow Caller (Dragon #261) Shadow Hunter (Dragon #261) Shadow Mage (Defilers & Preservers: The Wizards of Athas) Shadow Seeker (Dragon #261) Sha'ir (Arabian Adventures) Sheen Chaser (Dragon #258) Slayer (Dragon #231, Defiler) Sorcerer (Arabian Adventures) Spellarcher (Half-elf Fighter/Wizard kit) (Dragon #214) Spellfilcher (Elf Mage/Thief, Complete Book of Elves) Spellslayer (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Spiritualist (Dragon #229) Spiritualist (Champions of the Mists) Swami (Dragon #225) Thaumathurgist (A Guide to Hell) Tribal Wizard (Defilers & Preservers: The Wizards of Athas) Undead Master (Complete Book of Necromancers) Unseen (Complete Sha'ir's Handbook) Vanisher (gnomish Illusionist kit) (The Complete Book of Gnomes and Halflings) Veiled One (Slave Hunters and Silt Sailors, Preserver) Visionary (Book of Magecraft, magician diviner kit) War Wizard (Elf Fighter/Thief, Complete Book of Elves) Witch (Complete Wizard's Handbook) Wizards of Cormyr (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of Halruaa (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of Sembia (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Cold Lands (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Dales (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Dragon Coast (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Elven Wood (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Empires of the Sands (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Island Kingdoms (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Moonsea Region (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Old Empires (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Savage North (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Unapproachable East (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Vast (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Vilhon Reach (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of the Western Heartlands (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wizards of Waterdeep (Wizards & Rogues of the Realms) Wu Jen (Complete Wizard's Handbook) Zande Witch Woman (Dragon #200) What a great list! I add: Arcanist (Complete Spacefarer Handbook) Dragon Slayer (Council of Wyrms) Glantrian Mage (Glantri, Kingdom of Magic) Geomancer (Complete Spacefarer Handbook) Wokan (also open to psionicists) (Red Steel) But I remember something more from Glantri, SpellJammer, Complete Humanoid Handbook and Jakandor... I'm working now... back at home I'll have a look and add some other kit! :D -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 20] Author : Agathokles Date : 10-18-06 12:53 PM Thread Title : Re: Updated and alphabetically sorted list of AD&D 2e wizard kits What a great list! I add: Arcanist (Complete Spacefarer Handbook) Dragon Slayer (Council of Wyrms) Glantrian Mage (Glantri, Kingdom of Magic) Geomancer (Complete Spacefarer Handbook) Wokan (also open to psionicists) (Red Steel) Done But I remember something more from Glantri, SpellJammer, Complete Humanoid Handbook and Jakandor... I'm working now... back at home I'll have a look and add some other kit! :D Thanks! GP -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 21] Author : Arcanda Date : 10-18-06 02:20 PM Thread Title : Re: Good Gods There were a lot of wizard types in 2e Artificer (Charonti enchanter kit) (Jakandor, isle of Destiny) Astronomer (The Complete Spacefarer's Handbook) Dilettante (Charonti mage kit) (Jakandor, isle of Destiny) Finder (Charonti diviner kit) (Jakandor, isle of Destiny) Galvanist (Charonti invoker kit) (Jakandor, isle of Destiny) Hedge Wizard (Complete Humanoids' Handbook) Humanoid Scholar (Complete Humanoids' Handbook) Imposter (The Complete Spacefarer's Handbook) Inheritor (kit open to may classes, wizards too) (Red Steel) Outlaw Mage (Complete Humanoids' Handbook) Porter (Charonti transmuter kit) (Jakandor, isle of Destiny) Render (Charonti necromancer kit) (Jakandor, isle of Destiny) Sandman (Charonti illusionist kit) (Jakandor, isle of Destiny) Savage Wizard and Psionicist (Wallara, Phanaton and Lizard kin mage kit) (Orc's Head) Seer (Knorrman mage kit) (Jakandor, Island of War) Shadow mage (Charonti conjurer kit) (Jakandor, isle of Destiny) Swashbuckler (kit open to may classes, wizards too) (Red Steel) War Mage (The Complete Spacefarer's Handbook) Warden (Charonti abjurer kit) (Jakandor, isle of Destiny) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 22] Author : Agathokles Date : 10-19-06 03:23 AM Thread Title : Re: Good Gods There were a lot of wizard types in 2e List updated with Arcanda's additions, we're over 140 kits, plus 27 classes! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 23] Author : Agathokles Date : 10-21-06 01:45 PM Thread Title : Re: Good Gods There were a lot of wizard types in 2e Edit: added Dragon Lord from DM 205. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 24] Author : khyron1144 Date : 01-18-07 03:00 PM Thread Title : Re: Good Gods There were a lot of wizard types in 2e Sorry for disappearing so long. Thanks for the help Agothokles. I added some updates to the other stuff section today. I moved and so have been recently reunited with some of my books. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 25] Author : Agathokles Date : 01-19-07 04:02 AM Thread Title : Re: Good Gods There were a lot of wizard types in 2e Sorry for disappearing so long. Thanks for the help Agothokles. You're welcome. :) I added some updates to the other stuff section today. I moved and so have been recently reunited with some of my books. Here is a set of other organizations from the Sha'ir's Handbook (Al Qadim setting): The Brotherhood of the True Flame The Constellation The Cult of Sand The Hands of Badiat abd Ala'i The Mechanicians League The Red Eyes The Sea's Children The Servitors of the Zephyr The Society of Shifting Sands The Spellslayers The Viziers -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 26] Author : khyron1144 Date : 01-20-07 01:36 AM Thread Title : Re: Good Gods There were a lot of wizard types in 2e You're welcome. :) Here is a set of other organizations from the Sha'ir's Handbook (Al Qadim setting): The Brotherhood of the True Flame The Constellation The Cult of Sand The Hands of Badiat abd Ala'i The Mechanicians League The Red Eyes The Sea's Children The Servitors of the Zephyr The Society of Shifting Sands The Spellslayers The Viziers Thanks much. For that nice, alphebetized list, if you are including the Apothecary from Sages & Specialists, you may also wish to include the Seer class also from the Sages & Specialists books. Seers are very narrowly specialized in Divination but with both Priest and Wizard spells. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 27] Author : Agathokles Date : 01-20-07 03:18 AM Thread Title : Re: Good Gods There were a lot of wizard types in 2e Thanks much. For that nice, alphebetized list, if you are including the Apothecary from Sages & Specialists, you may also wish to include the Seer class also from the Sages & Specialists books. Seers are very narrowly specialized in Divination but with both Priest and Wizard spells. I was uncertain whether to consider it a wizardly priest or a priestly wizard ;) Ok, let's add it... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 28] Author : khyron1144 Date : 01-21-07 06:05 PM Thread Title : Re: Good Gods There were a lot of wizard types in 2e Somehow my earlier attempt to add that Shai'r's Handbook stuff you pointed me to didn't take. So I reposted that and added some stuff I found in Glantri Kingdom of Magic. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 29] Author : Agathokles Date : 03-15-07 07:16 AM Thread Title : Re: Good Gods There were a lot of wizard types in 2e A bump to this thread, given the renewed interest raised by the priest thread. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 30] Author : karelias Date : 03-23-07 12:49 PM Thread Title : Re: Good Gods There were a lot of wizard types in 2e What about the Chronomancer? TSR9506 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 31] Author : Agathokles Date : 03-23-07 06:23 PM Thread Title : Re: Good Gods There were a lot of wizard types in 2e What about the Chronomancer? TSR9506 It's a wizard class, isn't it? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 32] Author : karelias Date : 03-26-07 07:12 AM Thread Title : Re: Good Gods There were a lot of wizard types in 2e It's a wizard class, isn't it? It's an elite and rare specialization actually, for wizards that master the school of chronomancy. For more info, try "TSR9506 - Chronomancer". -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 33] Author : Agathokles Date : 03-26-07 09:00 AM Thread Title : Re: Good Gods There were a lot of wizard types in 2e Ok, added to my list -- specializations are currently listed as classes, so I put it there. 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